He wants to 'retire' some existing PvE queues so other queues will see more play.
Seriously? If someone's not playing a PvE Queue either:
1) They don't find the content fun to play (Retiring other queues won't help here, unless the unplayed queues are the only ones remaining, OR the ONLY way to get a needed Mark, etc.)
2) Players don't feel the reward is worth the time spent to acquire it.
At least he is considering the other method of IMPROVING rewards or reworking the mechanics of underplayed queues; but sorry, his (seemingly always first) idea of REMOVING CONTENT FROM STO shows why he needs a break from his STO Lead development position. (IMO)
Ah, the tried and true method of leading with the stick instead of a carrot. It's the Cryptic way.
They had better not remove Gorn Minefield. That's one that is still alive and kicking, and a great queue for a relatively quick space run at almost any level in the game.
It's a daily that's tied to a dil, and I think fleet mark reward. Plus, it's a lot of fun to play.
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I think Geko needs to hand the baton to someone else. Salami seems to have improved on some problems we used to have in the past, but I think Geko is not helping the game move forward as it should.
So we're losing queues and plans to simplify the skill system are still on? Par for the course, it's incredible how many times taking things out of the game has been called a revamp.
Yea considering how they have dealt with SP in the past I suppose this cold mean that. But, well daily log in numbers seem to be one of the few magnitudes they actually care about you know. If my fleet and my in game friends are any indication cryptic has some influence over them by events and or new contend. But thats about it. The moment the event is over or the latest episode played it rather gets silent soonish. In most cases its just the hardcore gamers who stick around and A LOT of them just log on briefly to doff.
Take that one away (or nerf it to not worthy to do) and think they could suffer some scerious cut in their metrics. One that Im not sure a mirror or cc event can compensate if its the third one in a year.
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Doffing is the only reason i log in so much these days..
Take that away and you won't see me again. All your other content can be done in a week after it's released. There's no reason to keep doing said content either. So all that remains is doffing.
Oy, gecko, the reason we do not play that stuff its because:
Its too long, usually badly designed, boring and more importantly not worth the time.
So stuff that idea where the sun doesn't shine thx.
Yea thats pretty much it you know the entire problem. Instead of introducing conditions that give players a reason not to play queues perhaps its time to introduce some for players to do so.
Sure I bet Geko is shivering at the possibility that some peeps would get space rich and buy less zen with RL money if the increase rewards too much but on the other hand they also linked means to burn resources right along with it in form of slavage tech. If this stuff would be easier to obtain more peeps would go for rarity upgrades and use any PvE earnings for that.
I dont know its not as if we wouldnt have a beautiful lists of maps for us to enjoy, maps the devs put a great deal of effort into. There is just so few reason to bother with them at all.
To me it seems that Gekos staff gave him all the strings needed into his hand, he just seems to have a hard time pulling the right ones.
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I think the only changes to the breen arc should be additional missions. If the developers start messing around with the Feature Episodes it could be disasterous
Exhibit A - dstahl's post history.
Exhibit B - dstahl's state of the game and the like blog posts.
But that isn't neccessarily bad- how many people are angry that he never delivered on getting rid of Ker'rat!
That's kind of rough man. Every one of Dstahl's posts were pretty clear that they were subject to change. I used to like the Engineering Reports and the like, but he always made it clear that those weren't to be taken for solid truth.
Besides, under Dstahl we got four Featured Series (the 2800 counts because it was done well before it was released. That was PWE's influence that dragged it out), Doffing, Ground Combat Revamp (I like the aim aspect still), virtually any and all of the KDF content that currently exists exists because Dstahl gave a TRIBBLE(in a good way, not gave a TRIBBLE and we take it), a reference to V'ger with the Borg ships in Red Alert missions, and Legacy of Romulus which based off Steam Charts did better in terms of trend setting (raw numbers are somewhat irrelevant by comparison since not everyone uses Steam, but trends can still matter).
I'd love to have that guy back. The problem with him was that he actually interacted with the community. So any time he had an idea and made clear he wasn't sure how well it was going to pull off, people still took it as the God's honest truth.
Compare that to now, and the devs are relatively tight lipped except when Geko gets on to blast the KDF, talk about removing content because that's such a killer idea, and revamp a system in a way that makes it both better and way worse at the same time.
dstahl wasn't a bad EP (or what was his post?), but you can't deny that his ideas were often too grand to work out.
And it did obviusly fall back on Cryptic. People ended up being disappointed. So Cryptic is now much more careful in what they release to the public.
Anyway, IIRC, he did actually not talk about content removal, but about content rotation. And that sounds like a solid idea to me. Sure, all content needs to be equaly viable to play (e.g. rewards/time or "fun" must be similiar), but if that is reached, a rotation isn't harmful in the least, because what ever is in the rotation will be something enjoyable and rewarding. And the player numbers for rotating content will also be much more useful, since you remove the self-enforcing effect to a large extent.
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Besides, under Dstahl we got four Featured Series (the 2800 counts because it was done well before it was released. That was PWE's influence that dragged it out),
actually, no. when dangelo took over for dstahl he said the only thing that was done for the 2800 fe was the bajor ground map and that the team hadn't done anything else on the fe yet.
actually, no. when dangelo took over for dstahl he said the only thing that was done for the 2800 fe was the bajor ground map and that the team hadn't done anything else on the fe yet.
Yeah, because D'angelo is so honest. I recall them clarifying that much of the FE was done already, they were just waiting for the appropriate moment to put it out.
Sorry, but I don't believe a word D'Angelo says. That guy always seems to do the opposite of what people want from the game.
Yeah, because D'angelo is so honest. I recall them clarifying that much of the FE was done already, they were just waiting for the appropriate moment to put it out.
Sorry, but I don't believe a word D'Angelo says. That guy always seems to do the opposite of what people want from the game.
i trust my memory far more then i trust yours. and you think dstahl was so honest? it's all about who you choose to believe. we had dstah lie to us far more often then dangelo, imo. you can choose to believe whatever you want, as can i.
i trust my memory far more then i trust yours. and you think dstahl was so honest? it's all about who you choose to believe. we had dstah lie to us far more often then dangelo, imo. you can choose to believe whatever you want, as can i.
Guy never lied. He always specified that some things weren't necessarily going to happen. He even went on the forums to make clear that he wasn't always so certain. What you're confused about is the difference between one EP heralding DR and f2p one of which introduced gambling boxes the other of which was "the best expansion ever. Players love it". And the EP who released at least 3 Featured Series, introduced the very concept of them, made the KDF what it is today which is so much better than the way it started out, put out interiors, KDF tutorial, Legacy of Romulus and the Sphere. I mean the real downfall of that guy is that he wanted to do too much so players took things that he clearly spelled out as "maybe's" as his word that he was going to do?
Guy never lied. He always specified that some things weren't necessarily going to happen. He even went on the forums to make clear that he wasn't always so certain. What you're confused about is the difference between one EP heralding DR and f2p one of which introduced gambling boxes the other of which was "the best expansion ever. Players love it". And the EP who released at least 3 Featured Series, introduced the very concept of them, made the KDF what it is today which is so much better than the way it started out, put out interiors, KDF tutorial, Legacy of Romulus and the Sphere. I mean the real downfall of that guy is that he wanted to do too much so players took things that he clearly spelled out as "maybe's" as his word that he was going to do?
ok, you're the president of the dstsahl fan club. what days do you meet? i might show up for some free coffee and cookies.
Hrmmm, I might have missed it...discussion that is...but I'm kind of wondering some about what Geko said about the mods. That engineering bit about how long it might take - what it might involve - whether we'd be reaching the point of various things acting like frames where we would slot various mods...etc, etc, etc. With the recent update they did to items and all...kind of started that train of thought of it becoming more of a potential reality.
Well, if KDF and Romulan players want a T6 science ship......... Roll a Fed.
Been here, done that, got tired of the uptight, cloistered, three points of contact attitude that almost all the Feds have. Switched to KDF... well the KDF and Romulan community are far better than the Federation Community. Add to this ESD, leaves me wondering how anyone can play a Federation character at all.
And I'll return this to you. Because teh Federation is always after what the other factions have. Mainly, ships and races. Well use you're own advice here.
We aren't asking for much. Hell we aren't even asking for anything the Federation has. We dont want your races. We don't want your ships. We just want a Science vessel. And as I stated in my previous post. I'm sure that a freebie science ship at level 40 and a T6 Science Ship is not asking for to much.
Oh you mean other than the myriad of uniform choices? Or perhaps your 14 different races?
didn't you post a couple of days ago about the alien gen and races? doesn't that mean they don't actually have different races you can't already have through the alien gen? you can't have it both ways. you can't tell the feds to go and use the alien gen and then complain that the kdf and roms need to go use the alien gen too.
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Ah, the tried and true method of leading with the stick instead of a carrot. It's the Cryptic way.
It's a daily that's tied to a dil, and I think fleet mark reward. Plus, it's a lot of fun to play.
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Yea considering how they have dealt with SP in the past I suppose this cold mean that. But, well daily log in numbers seem to be one of the few magnitudes they actually care about you know. If my fleet and my in game friends are any indication cryptic has some influence over them by events and or new contend. But thats about it. The moment the event is over or the latest episode played it rather gets silent soonish. In most cases its just the hardcore gamers who stick around and A LOT of them just log on briefly to doff.
Take that one away (or nerf it to not worthy to do) and think they could suffer some scerious cut in their metrics. One that Im not sure a mirror or cc event can compensate if its the third one in a year.
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Take that away and you won't see me again. All your other content can be done in a week after it's released. There's no reason to keep doing said content either. So all that remains is doffing.
Game will tank if that gets "fixed".
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Yea thats pretty much it you know the entire problem. Instead of introducing conditions that give players a reason not to play queues perhaps its time to introduce some for players to do so.
Sure I bet Geko is shivering at the possibility that some peeps would get space rich and buy less zen with RL money if the increase rewards too much but on the other hand they also linked means to burn resources right along with it in form of slavage tech. If this stuff would be easier to obtain more peeps would go for rarity upgrades and use any PvE earnings for that.
I dont know its not as if we wouldnt have a beautiful lists of maps for us to enjoy, maps the devs put a great deal of effort into. There is just so few reason to bother with them at all.
To me it seems that Gekos staff gave him all the strings needed into his hand, he just seems to have a hard time pulling the right ones.
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Exhibit A - dstahl's post history.
Exhibit B - dstahl's state of the game and the like blog posts.
But that isn't neccessarily bad- how many people are angry that he never delivered on getting rid of Ker'rat!
That's kind of rough man. Every one of Dstahl's posts were pretty clear that they were subject to change. I used to like the Engineering Reports and the like, but he always made it clear that those weren't to be taken for solid truth.
Besides, under Dstahl we got four Featured Series (the 2800 counts because it was done well before it was released. That was PWE's influence that dragged it out), Doffing, Ground Combat Revamp (I like the aim aspect still), virtually any and all of the KDF content that currently exists exists because Dstahl gave a TRIBBLE(in a good way, not gave a TRIBBLE and we take it), a reference to V'ger with the Borg ships in Red Alert missions, and Legacy of Romulus which based off Steam Charts did better in terms of trend setting (raw numbers are somewhat irrelevant by comparison since not everyone uses Steam, but trends can still matter).
I'd love to have that guy back. The problem with him was that he actually interacted with the community. So any time he had an idea and made clear he wasn't sure how well it was going to pull off, people still took it as the God's honest truth.
Compare that to now, and the devs are relatively tight lipped except when Geko gets on to blast the KDF, talk about removing content because that's such a killer idea, and revamp a system in a way that makes it both better and way worse at the same time.
And it did obviusly fall back on Cryptic. People ended up being disappointed. So Cryptic is now much more careful in what they release to the public.
Anyway, IIRC, he did actually not talk about content removal, but about content rotation. And that sounds like a solid idea to me. Sure, all content needs to be equaly viable to play (e.g. rewards/time or "fun" must be similiar), but if that is reached, a rotation isn't harmful in the least, because what ever is in the rotation will be something enjoyable and rewarding. And the player numbers for rotating content will also be much more useful, since you remove the self-enforcing effect to a large extent.
Nah, I work with the public too much to blame Mr. Stahl for people's lack of reading comprehension.
Yeah, because D'angelo is so honest. I recall them clarifying that much of the FE was done already, they were just waiting for the appropriate moment to put it out.
Sorry, but I don't believe a word D'Angelo says. That guy always seems to do the opposite of what people want from the game.
Guy never lied. He always specified that some things weren't necessarily going to happen. He even went on the forums to make clear that he wasn't always so certain. What you're confused about is the difference between one EP heralding DR and f2p one of which introduced gambling boxes the other of which was "the best expansion ever. Players love it". And the EP who released at least 3 Featured Series, introduced the very concept of them, made the KDF what it is today which is so much better than the way it started out, put out interiors, KDF tutorial, Legacy of Romulus and the Sphere. I mean the real downfall of that guy is that he wanted to do too much so players took things that he clearly spelled out as "maybe's" as his word that he was going to do?
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Been here, done that, got tired of the uptight, cloistered, three points of contact attitude that almost all the Feds have. Switched to KDF... well the KDF and Romulan community are far better than the Federation Community. Add to this ESD, leaves me wondering how anyone can play a Federation character at all.
And I'll return this to you. Because teh Federation is always after what the other factions have. Mainly, ships and races. Well use you're own advice here.
We aren't asking for much. Hell we aren't even asking for anything the Federation has. We dont want your races. We don't want your ships. We just want a Science vessel. And as I stated in my previous post. I'm sure that a freebie science ship at level 40 and a T6 Science Ship is not asking for to much.
They want a ripoff Fed Sci ship. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm hoping Cryptic sticks to its pattern on this one.
Of just giving everything to the Feds?
Oh you mean other than the myriad of uniform choices? Or perhaps your 14 different races?
Yeah , 'cuz that'd be a change from all the demands the Fed's dished out for the past 5 years ... .
... cloak , KDF consoles , battle cloak , more raiders (but not ones that blow up) , carriers (O-M-G carriers) , make Beams ~ to cannons (during Escorts Online) and so on ...