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  • greyhame3greyhame3 Member Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I've done ISA once since Borg Disconnected came out. The later is just more interesting and requires something other than killing everything in sight.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Because they're too lazy to fix them.
    Or because there are too many and the players split up too much?

    It's also a self-enforcing effect. If a map is just slightly less popular, it means longer wait times, which makes it even less popular, because people don't log in the game to queue up for a map, thye want to play the map.

    And you will never have dozens of maps that are all perfectly equal in popularity.
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  • elijahmreelijahmre Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    It started out as an innocent question a number of podcasts ago, but has now turned into a sore point to the point I think this guy is making his mission to make people see DS9 is the worst Trek ever and will make any point to say such in a podcast... even Geko was like... "Uh, let's not start bashing DS9" cuz a sizable of the community enjoys that.

    Oh, No!! They're on to me... My agenda has been revealed! I SHALL NOT REST UNTIL EVERYONE HATES DS9!!

    .... oh, brother... //facepalm//

    Also... //and I'm bracing for impact here// ... I understand that Klingons are jonesin' for some ships. And I agree that it would certainly enhance player options for the 16% (or less) of players that roll as Klingons.

    But, let's face it. It costs $$ to pay humans to spend the hours in their day brainstorming, designing, and creating a playable in-game ship. And the goods that successfully sell are the goods they're going to keep producing.

    Now, you also can't seriously suggest that all 16% of Klingons (or 594K characters) are actively on the forums clamoring for a new ship - so I think it's unfair to accuse someone (like the Lead Designer of the game) of ignoring the forums. There's more to it than how many posts there are these forums. More realistically, is that those 16% of Klingons also includes player ALTs... so the real Klingon base may be even less than 16%.

    Would it be nice to have more variety for the other team? Of Course -- Unfortunately, we're 5 years in, and the game's tone is that of a "Federation Starfleet Game" -- It was like that when it first came out (when you could only start a Klingon at lvl10) and it has stayed that way.

    That same tone applies for PvP. This was never "really" a PvP game. And the players I've spoken with (you know... the silent majority)... they're first time MMO-players. They have little interest in PvP --- why? Because they don't like the concept of getting ganked because they don't have the interest in min-maxing & theory-crafting.

    We're Five Years in -- I think we're way past the "If you build it they will come" phase. They have 5 years of data showing what keeps $$ flowing in. It's unlikely that the powers that be (PWE) are going to green-light an investment that hasn't already shown any return -- wether it's Klingon Ships or PvP.

    These are just my two-cents -- and just as everyone here has been entitled to their opinions -- so am I.... and DS9 Sucks....
  • teknesiateknesia Member Posts: 860 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    elijahmre wrote: »
    Oh, No!! They're on to me... My agenda has been revealed! I SHALL NOT REST UNTIL EVERYONE HATES DS9!!

    .... oh, brother... //facepalm//

    Also... //and I'm bracing for impact here// ... I understand that Klingons are jonesin' for some ships. And I agree that it would certainly enhance player options for the 16% (or less) of players that roll as Klingons.

    But, let's face it. It costs $$ to pay humans to spend the hours in their day brainstorming, designing, and creating a playable in-game ship. And the goods that successfully sell are the goods they're going to keep producing.

    Now, you also can't seriously suggest that all 16% of Klingons (or 594K characters) are actively on the forums clamoring for a new ship - so I think it's unfair to accuse someone (like the Lead Designer of the game) of ignoring the forums. There's more to it than how many posts there are these forums. More realistically, is that those 16% of Klingons also includes player ALTs... so the real Klingon base may be even less than 16%.

    Would it be nice to have more variety for the other team? Of Course -- Unfortunately, we're 5 years in, and the game's tone is that of a "Federation Starfleet Game" -- It was like that when it first came out (when you could only start a Klingon at lvl10) and it has stayed that way.

    That same tone applies for PvP. This was never "really" a PvP game. And the players I've spoken with (you know... the silent majority)... they're first time MMO-players. They have little interest in PvP --- why? Because they don't like the concept of getting ganked because they don't have the interest in min-maxing & theory-crafting.

    We're Five Years in -- I think we're way past the "If you build it they will come" phase. They have 5 years of data showing what keeps $$ flowing in. It's unlikely that the powers that be (PWE) are going to green-light an investment that hasn't already shown any return -- wether it's Klingon Ships or PvP.

    These are just my two-cents -- and just as everyone here has been entitled to their opinions -- so am I.... and DS9 Sucks....

    Um... they never fully built the KDF side. There's always been some weird caveat and the ships, with the exception of the ones released roughly season 2-4 are underwhelming.

    The best looking ship they ever made for the KDF was pushed behind a lockbox and there still isn't a t6 BoP.

    Oh yeah, and most of the uniqueness of rolling a KDF has been given to the feds.

    So... "we will build it and they come?" More like "we half-assed it, why didn't they show up?"

    To put this into context, I played through the KDF tutorial when LoR was released and loved it. The leveling process was great, but when I got to end game and there was no pizzaz to the endgame ships, I gave up. Starfleet gets awesome new ships, and the KDFs mostly still look like they were constructed during the TWoK era.
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  • zathri83zathri83 Member Posts: 514 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Pvp queues are old and nobody plays them so they should be removed. :)
  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    teknesia wrote: »
    So... "we will build it and they come?" More like "we half-assed it, why didn't they show up?"

    That is my feeling about the kdf. You will never sell a Audi that looks like a yugo and handles like amc and has the repair costs of a Lexus.
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  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    mhall85 wrote: »
    He didn't go into much, but said it's coming very soon... my guess: Season 10.5 (summer).

    This right here (at about 0:43 seconds)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf7y1Bn4LKU
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    teknesia wrote: »
    Um... they never fully built the KDF side. There's always been some weird caveat and the ships, with the exception of the ones released roughly season 2-4 are underwhelming.

    The best looking ship they ever made for the KDF was pushed behind a lockbox and there still isn't a t6 BoP.

    Oh yeah, and most of the uniqueness of rolling a KDF has been given to the feds.

    So... "we will build it and they come?" More like "we half-assed it, why didn't they show up?"

    To put this into context, I played through the KDF tutorial when LoR was released and loved it. The leveling process was great, but when I got to end game and there was no pizzaz to the endgame ships, I gave up. Starfleet gets awesome new ships, and the KDFs mostly still look like they were constructed during the TWoK era.

    There doesn't really seem to be any "half-assed" about the Science Vessels available to the Klingons. So if the still sold worse than expected (taking into account the size of the Klingon Faction to begin with), then maybe you just have to deal with the possibility that maybe all the people asking for a Klingon Science Vessels are really a minority that is only getting visible on the forums because they don't have a ship, not because they are very common.



    For me personally, I never wanted a Klingon Science Vessel, though I know it would be very useful to me. I want a new Bird of Prey, and an alternative to the Nausicaan Siege Destroyer that looks more like the lower tier versions. I don't even want a Carrier, because Carriers don't belong in (warning: true-scotsman-fallacy incoming)TRUE Star Trek.
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  • teknesiateknesia Member Posts: 860 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    There doesn't really seem to be any "half-assed" about the Science Vessels available to the Klingons. So if the still sold worse than expected (taking into account the size of the Klingon Faction to begin with), then maybe you just have to deal with the possibility that maybe all the people asking for a Klingon Science Vessels are really a minority that is only getting visible on the forums because they don't have a ship, not because they are very common.



    For me personally, I never wanted a Klingon Science Vessel, though I know it would be very useful to me. I want a new Bird of Prey, and an alternative to the Nausicaan Siege Destroyer that looks more like the lower tier versions. I don't even want a Carrier, because Carriers don't belong in (warning: true-scotsman-fallacy incoming)TRUE Star Trek.

    Huh? The KDF have two science vessels via the C-store that are considered under performing next to the Feds and one ship hid behind a lockbox. What are you talking about?
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2015
    A KDF ship with 5 science console slots and 1 hangar bay to slot elite siphon drones on would be awesome.

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  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited April 2015
    You want people run specific content? Make the content worth running. Not some few 100 dil added, think out of the box. Give the content a random drop of epicness. Not something you can buy.

    How about a cross faction uniform voucher that lets you wear a uniform from a different faction. Or a cross faction ship voucher. or a ship repack token. The Ravengers fingernail style as tailor option and so one.


    Be creative, give the players cool stuff to potential earn.
  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Geko designed the Herald enemies.

    Makes sense ... LaZ0r Dinos and Space Sorcerers
    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Potential changes to queues, bonus rewards or cycling groups of them to increase participation.
    Maybe remove really old ones (gorn minefield, big dig, breaking the planet)

    Yep let's remove more content ...
    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Many new ships coming over next year. Potential for cross-faction starship t---raits via lockboxes.

    Even more Ships ... meh I don't care anymore

    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Skill tree overhaul still planned ("probably in the next year") Maybe merge with the spec trees.

    Unneccesary Nonsense

    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Personal traits will be separated space from ground. "Biggest problem is that most species do not have 9 space and 9 ground traits." Will probably make new traits.

    Sounds good

    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Extremely low demand for KDF science ships. Most likely just a reskin with existing consoles/trait, if at all.


    Geko must be psychic ... because there are ZERO KDF Science Ships ...
    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Trying to get featured episode replay for items, not the lobi, in delta recruitment event. If not then definately in next few months.

    Well I figured ... so "No More Free Lobi" was why we didn't have another FE-Replay for 1.5 years ... sorry but we can't have nice things ...

    => so they don't even have a clue about the next ~3weeks of the Delta-Recruits-Event ... big surprise ...
    xparr15 wrote: »
    --Delta recruit event far more successful than anticipated. Potentially similar events in future now that technology is in place.

    Oh boy ... more pointless recycling ... "Maintenance Mode" just got real


    => Everytime Geko does an Interview I get the urge to stop playing for a few months ... and sometimes I really do ...
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    That's not a whole lot then lol.

    Compared to every other year since launch it is a great deal.


    He explained quite a bit in the interview and made a great deal of sense.
    I may not agree with what he said but he explained it well.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • dmtdmt Member Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I noticed that unpopular c-store stuff might be moved to lobi store. I hope that won't affect people who already own the "unpopular" stuff.

    The return of FE rewards (Reman & Breen BOFFs etc) will be good
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    I suppose I should qualify my earlier comment with the lack of or totally poor XP rewards for the story content in DR.

    I started the DR story arc at just over level 57 on an alt. I just dinged level 59 with 1 mission left before I can't progress in the story because the last couple of story missions are level 60.... so off to grinding I go.

    I would have preferred that DR had better XP rewards so one could go from ~50+ to 60 without needing to grind patrol missions and such. Endlessly grinding patrols to get another level to grind more patrols stinks IMO.

    I do not understand.
    i have been logging in since launch.
    Some people haven't but they still log in to do stuff, right? Stf's. Doff assignments. Something.
    Is that grinding?
    Because that stuff gives xp and you would have went to 60 anyways.
    I have 7 characters. Only one has left qu'nos in the past two years. But they all got to 60. Never grinded them. They don't even have weapons.
    There may be a problem with the game.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    It is also possible I do no know what you mean by grinding.

    Because everything in every game ever is grinding.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Geko must be psychic ... because there are ZERO KDF Science Ships ...
    The Nov, Chontay, MoQ, and Ta'Sub classes are all Science-based Klingon-designed ships. 3 of which are C-store ships.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    teknesia wrote: »
    Huh? The KDF have two science vessels via the C-store that are considered under performing next to the Feds and one ship hid behind a lockbox. What are you talking about?

    Even if they are underperforming to the Federation ones (and which ones, how long have those been around?), they are still the only one. If people are desperate for a KDF Science Vessel, why not take the one there is? It's not like people didn't buy the Galaxy Retrofit even though it was widely seen as teh weakest Cruiser!

    The Dyson Science Destroyers are Science Vessels, with all the bells & whistles and secondary deflectors and good turn rate, and they are the same for all 3 factions. It's pretty easy to compare the sales here across all factions, even taking population differences into account.

    And if you think the KDF SV is ugly, the Federation one isn't any more beautiful either. So that can't really be the reason either. (and quite frankly, nowadays, with the availability of non-Dyson Materials, I'd argue the KDF has a pretty good looking ship available, too.)


    The Varanus is a KDF version of the Deep Space Science Vessel (and much better looking than the DSSV, by the way), and came with a special console that the DSSV.
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  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    chalpen wrote: »
    It wasn't posted to the forums but I would like to post my opinion of the interview.

    3 more episodes "in the can" for the iconian arc, I am not sure if that means they have only 3 more episodes because
    1) they said s10 will end the iconian arc and
    2) s10 will have as much episodes as delta rising

    My thing: I get what you are saying but it seems that their are more things to do while fighting the tholians than their are the herald. The tholians are the worst rep fight in the game and you have a battle zone, more queues, and a lot of solo content. Iconians are missing a battle zone in my opinion.

    Fleet revamp.
    Awesome.

    Duty officer revamp. Awesome (except the deck change idea).

    Ship traits crossing factions? Saw that coming.

    Breen arc redux: unless the last part is some ensign backing up he library to a thumb drive don't bother. :p

    Felkiri arc? Yes please update.

    Give Cookie her asexual born in a bikini.

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    chalpen wrote: »
    It wasn't posted to the forums but I would like to post my opinion of the interview.

    3 more episodes "in the can" for the iconian arc, I am not sure if that means they have only 3 more episodes because
    1) they said s10 will end the iconian arc and
    2) s10 will have as much episodes as delta rising

    My thing: I get what you are saying but it seems that their are more things to do while fighting the tholians than their are the herald. The tholians are the worst rep fight in the game and you have a battle zone, more queues, and a lot of solo content. Iconians are missing a battle zone in my opinion.

    Fleet revamp.
    Awesome.

    Duty officer revamp. Awesome (except the deck change idea).

    Ship traits crossing factions? Saw that coming.

    Breen arc redux: unless the last part is some ensign backing up he library to a thumb drive don't bother. :p

    Felkiri arc? Yes please update.

    Give Cookie her asexual born in a bikini.

    so where is the transcript for this podcast thing? if it isnt written down in stone, i dont believe a word of it.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    Fairly easy to understand. I went into the DQ arc at just over level 57. I am not counting running STFs, DOFFing, farming Argala ad nauseam... just playing the DQ story content. Quite frankly, there isn't enough to get me from 57 to 60 without repeating content.

    Same for me, but I just did the stuff did the day before dr came out. I wasn't grinding then and I not grinding now.
    Grinding for dilithium. Ok that is a grind. But to get to 60? Why grind it. It will come.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Even if they are underperforming to the Federation ones (and which ones, how long have those been around?), they are still the only one. If people are desperate for a KDF Science Vessel, why not take the one there is? It's not like people didn't buy the Galaxy Retrofit even though it was widely seen as teh weakest Cruiser!
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  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2015
    The things that have me concerned the most are the removal of content namely the queue's. Now I know from a public queue point of view some of these dont pop as often as they used to. I think they need to look at how they can entice people back into these queues using the carrot instead of herding people into other queues.

    Secondly the proposed changes to duty officer system, whilst there are some assignments such as Negotiate additional delivery or rare commodities need removing, since the Alien artifacts are now worthless and have no use in the current crafting system. What concerns me the most is the idea that Al wants to have the assignments "normalized". Bearing in mind that the assignments were alterd/nerf'd or how ever you want to term it not long after DR went live. And the last time they "normalized" a section in the game, it resulted in a nerf to the EC vendor value of almost every item in the game. Also the changes that were made last year which resulted in us getting the clunky new UI and resulted in myself and others not being able to doff for almost a month still haunt me. I can only hope they have a greater understanding of the doffing system and coding that goes with it

    On the flip side, its nice that they are planning well into 2016, and their looking into doing some additional stuff to the fleet holdings or with fleets in general. I'm looking forward to the possibility of the addition of another STF queue, but I hope they address the issues currently affecting some of the queues for a portion of the player base, before adding anything else that has the possibility of making them worse. It's also nice to have the acknowledgement that they are aware of the lag issues and are trying to get it resolved.

    The separation of the ground/space personal traits cant come soon enough as far as I'm concerned. I just hope we don't have a similar problem to the one that caused bridge officers to be removed from their stations after a map move. Also the addition of further features to the crafting system such as the selectable mods, hey they might even work it so that the powered alien artifacts actually have a use again.
    Oh, it's not broken? We can soon fix that!

  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    elijahmre wrote: »
    Oh, No!! They're on to me... My agenda has been revealed! I SHALL NOT REST UNTIL EVERYONE HATES DS9!!

    .... oh, brother... //facepalm//

    and DS9 Sucks....

    I don't care if a person doesn't enjoy DS9, I know there are a fair number of em in the Community (of Star Trek in general). What concerned me was that how the show barely having an opinion on it till a fan asked, then you went virtually every podcast since that to saying something bad about DS9. But at least now you admitted it. For a time, I will say that I enjoyed Priority One's podcasts otherwise but after these continued jabs on my fave Star Trek, I am going to stop listening.

    Thanks for supporting STO and Star Trek otherwise though, but this is no longer for me.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    so where is the transcript for this podcast thing? if it isnt written down in stone, i dont believe a word of it.

    I don't know anyone will make a transcript written in stone, so you will have to keep not believing any of it.

    Any transcript will most likely lose some of the details of the stuff that was said (if it's just intonation), and so will always be flawed compared to the recording.
    The things that have me concerned the most are the removal of content namely the queue's. Now I know from a public queue point of view some of these dont pop as often as they used to. I think they need to look at how they can entice people back into these queues using the carrot instead of herding people into other queues.
    I got other gamey stuff to do, so I didn't listen to the entire podcast, but it seems it's less about retiring queues for good, but for putting them on some kind of rotation.

    I wonder if they shouldn't just do it by picking two different queues each weak as "featured" queue and add some extra rewards.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I don't know anyone will make a transcript written in stone, so you will have to keep not believing any of it.

    Any transcript will most likely lose some of the details of the stuff that was said (if it's just intonation), and so will always be flawed compared to the recording.

    Plus you need to hire stone cutters and have to deal with unions
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • teknesiateknesia Member Posts: 860 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Even if they are underperforming to the Federation ones (and which ones, how long have those been around?), they are still the only one. If people are desperate for a KDF Science Vessel, why not take the one there is? It's not like people didn't buy the Galaxy Retrofit even though it was widely seen as teh weakest Cruiser!

    The Dyson Science Destroyers are Science Vessels, with all the bells & whistles and secondary deflectors and good turn rate, and they are the same for all 3 factions. It's pretty easy to compare the sales here across all factions, even taking population differences into account.

    And if you think the KDF SV is ugly, the Federation one isn't any more beautiful either. So that can't really be the reason either. (and quite frankly, nowadays, with the availability of non-Dyson Materials, I'd argue the KDF has a pretty good looking ship available, too.)


    The Varanus is a KDF version of the Deep Space Science Vessel (and much better looking than the DSSV, by the way), and came with a special console that the DSSV.

    The galaxy actually looks nice to people. The Varanus is butt ugly. The Dyson isn't that great (as you just admitted) and they are both underperforming. How has the KDF gotten solid sci ship options again?

    As a butcher, I can appreciate cattle and the flavor, but you may want to check whether or not you're eating the actual beef or the stuff that comes out the other end of the steer.
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