I am glad I do not have any server issues on my end.
The only abnormal thing that has happened to me was get put into a login queue over the weekend, but the wait was not very long. Easily less than one minute in all cases. I am playing a STO on one laptop while I am streaming a 1080p video on another laptop.
The thing that I have and will always complain is the server for games. My computer is expensive and plays all graphics on max. So we ruled out the graphics out of the question.
Comparing other peoples connection logs to cryptics internet source... it's on Cryptics end that has a network issue, hence is why whenever I get online I see login failure, drop outs after you successfully login after a couple of minutes, and loading times are extremely slow.
I also have tested my other games that have multiplayer... such as War thunder, Wargaming's game, Planetside 2 and they all run SUPER smooth. Me and my friend had on-off connection spikes and drop outs throughout the last 2-3 years. Everyone should know for the fact Cryptics servers are unstable half of the time.
And if I am not on this computer? Well I play xbox one and all my games on Xbox one runs Super smooth again. I can keep going on and on about connections speed.
But it is a shame how the Cogent (aka also known as Cryptics internet source) is spoiling the excitement of season 10.
I am crossing my fingers that there is no server issues by the time season 10 happens.
P.S I have very good internet. I have played STO for almost 3 years (2 years currently) and out of all the days... why is there a huge issue this last 2 weeks???
Show me the post count and chat logs of these mythical "Great White Buffalo" (Hot Tub Time Machine movie reference) that have so many problems.
Once you show me these thousands i will retract my post and apologise,until then you are not going to be taken seriously and probably be mocked at because:
a) You make up numbers which dont exist
b) You have an attitude and to be honest i dont like you
c) You could have posted in one of the other threads regarding this so called "problem" yet since you are under the delusion of thinking you are a special snowflake you decided to make a new thread...
You prove it isn't
Many here in the forums claim we who post here are a tiny minority yet I have saw in these forums many dozens of different posters with these issues
So put the shoe on your foot and prove him wrong
No Excuses prove it
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Many here in the forums claim we who post here are a tiny minority yet I have saw in these forums many dozens of different posters with these issues
I would imagine connection issues are the single leading motivator for first time posters.
I suspect these issues are highly concentrated during peak hours. It would be nice if posters could include some data on when they're playing. I certainly notice little or no lag during the extremely off-peak hours I tend to play, outside of what seems to be a degenerative condition in space STFs.
Which raises an interesting point; I can experience zero lag in-game but outside of STFs, during simultaneous US and EU off-peak hours, and yet space STFs can run as a slide show.
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I would imagine connection issues are the single leading motivator for first time posters.
I suspect these issues are highly concentrated during peak hours. It would be nice if posters could include some data on when they're playing. I certainly notice little or no lag during the extremely off-peak hours I tend to play, outside of what seems to be a degenerative condition in space STFs.
Which raises an interesting point; I can experience zero lag in-game but outside of STFs, during simultaneous US and EU off-peak hours, and yet space STFs can run as a slide show.
space STFs slide show at times
Ground stfs normal
ESD sometimes lag ..sometimes there isnt
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Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I haven't seen serious lag in ESD since the initial rush wore off when the 5-year event began.
But rubberband space STF, during one of the lowest traffic hours of the day...I'm deeply suspicious that that's on my end, or Cogent's, or anywhere else but Cryptic's code.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
I haven't seen serious lag in ESD since the initial rush wore off when the 5-year event began.
But rubberband space STF, during one of the lowest traffic hours of the day...I'm deeply suspicious that that's on my end, or Cogent's, or anywhere else but Cryptic's code.
Personally I think it isn't lag at all
I believe its the ship traits acting up again......That's why we don't see it on the ground
And this started at last Tuesdays patch
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
It's been present the entire time. Several pages back there's a good explanation as to why the rubberbanding is endemic to the game. It's a valid, if undesirable, response from the server. Probably not the most elegant way, from a player perspective, to handle whatever issue it is intended to address.
That also raises another issue; in some areas, it seems tied to traffic, such as rubberbanding in social zones. In other areas, such as STFs, it must be related to some other issue. And yes, even ground STFs can experience it, they just aren't currently and don't seem to as often.
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Im stateside on a verizon fibre optic connection at 75mbs and STO lags(whatever you may decide to call it) the a$$ out of itself of late.
The issues: 1. multiple clicks on a single power on tray. 2. rubber banding. 3. 3-6 seconds pauses in game/stf
Cryptic STO right now is barely playable and at times completley UNPLAYABLE due to the lag thats been happening idk whats going on but the lag is pretty bad.
I was going to spend 50 USD to get a bortasque pack for my new klingong delta recruit but as it is right now? no chance i wont drop one red cent on a game thats at times unplayable.
So idk whats going on but you guys need to look into this issue before it gets worse then what it is and starts making people just throw up thier hands and walk away. :mad:
Cryptic STO right now is barely playable and at times completley UNPLAYABLE due to the lag thats been happening idk whats going on but the lag is pretty bad.
I was going to spend 50 USD to get a bortasque pack for my new klingong delta recruit but as it is right now? no chance i wont drop one red cent on a game thats at times unplayable.
So idk whats going on but you guys need to look into this issue before it gets worse then what it is and starts making people just throw up thier hands and walk away. :mad:
there could be any number of reasons for the issue and you seem to think cryptic are directly behind it? have you ran tracert and other fuctions that can determine where the issue is? because if you can, post it in the correct place (which is not here), and see if it gets any help.
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Almighty OT but why do forum members who have stated multiple times that there connections great repost saying the same thing over and over again. Great you have no lag or any of the issues so why knock those that do. Move on and annoy someone else.
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i just "finished" ISA. it was absolutely unplayable because of the constant lags and rubberbanding.
the latest "patch" notes are a bad joke.
i'm speechless how they treat their customers
My delta recruit is supposed to be a space toon but for some reason I subconsciously ended up outfitting it with as many ground traits as well as commando spec points as I could.
This must be it, the game lags less on ground and ISA seems currently the worst place to be in game.
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Yeah I just did an ISA and it was pretty bad - no problems any other place for me.
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that traceroute/ping nonsense again. it is clearly not connection issue! MANY players proved this already. it happens on certain missions and getting even worse if a command cruiser is on the same map.
this IS the correct place to post that. the other correct places are on gaming blogs, facebook or gaming magazines. maybe then somebody starts to care
Really interested in knowing since it seems that no new information has been disclosed by you nor you really add anything new to the conversation apart from a veiled threat that you wont be spending any more money...
what warrants not having one?
This is a forum, where here it comes .....and its a shocker.........
where people talk about anything related to the game.
I do hope your not in the position of "just because one person posts about a subject that means another can't", because frankly you make one post about a issue and it can be lost in the forum litter even if you make multiple posts it still has a massive likelihood of getting lost.
its the age old proverb of "if you scream loudly enough god will hear you" lol.
and most of the time it works unfortunately for everyone here cryptic is pretty anti-social when it comes to the servers lol
EDIT: P.s sorry I haven't slept yet, hence the sarcy tone of my comment.
there could be any number of reasons for the issue and you seem to think cryptic are directly behind it? have you ran tracert and other fuctions that can determine where the issue is? because if you can, post it in the correct place (which is not here), and see if it gets any help.
While thats a good suggestion, the number of people having problems across the board including myself kind of speaks for itself.
let alone the fact that most of those people started experiencing the problems on the exact same day.
Like a forumer said earlier, with neverwinters patch and the pre patching going on and the fact that STO shares bandwidth with other games... its very likely that the server is under a lot of stress and they aren't doing anything about it.
Really interested in knowing since it seems that no new information has been disclosed by you nor you really add anything new to the conversation apart from a veiled threat that you wont be spending any more money...
You said the same thing about one of my posts, i had to goto page 7 to find it, really, does it hurt you that a new post was created?
I believe its the ship traits acting up again......That's why we don't see it on the ground
And this started at last Tuesdays patch
I have to agree that the new star ship traits are some of the key suspects, along with the trees. This coming from multiple test runs with the the traits on and off with different groups of people as well as a few test with the same group doing it a few times.
However, I have to disagree on when it started. It started for a group of us at the start of the anniversary event and never stopped. Ask anyone on the DPS channels, the admins reset it around that time when the Plasma console nerf went in. But after a few runs the lag was noticed and the time to re-qualify has yet, even as of now, been put in to have people re-qualify for the respective channels 30k and up.
A lot of people are saying they don't have lag. Shall we compare complete notes? This means running the exact same setup on ships as those who DO have lag. You want to see lag, you have to measure apples to apples. When you compare computer and internet connections you ARE ONLY comparing one piece of the large puzzle. I know people from different parts of the world seeing lag like I am. Some, a lot, are leaving the game over it until fixed.
So for anyone wanting to compare what might be the issue I invite you to join me (@saross0219) and see what myself and others see every day. If you don't have all the same traits, spec trees we can work on that and you'll see the lag slowly growing, to a point where the game is unbearable because what takes 2-3 minutes now takes nearly 4 times that due to the lag seen. This lag for us has gone on from 5:30PM EST to as late as 1-2AM EST. Well after the typical american work hours end.
Edit: I should point out that the times is what I see WHEN I play. On the weekends, it's any time of the day. This last weekend for example, I logged off and stopped playing and went to play other games. Even one from Cryptic with far less seen.
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Really interested in knowing since it seems that no new information has been disclosed by you nor you really add anything new to the conversation apart from a veiled threat that you wont be spending any more money...
Here is one for you:
Sometimes the game lags for me sometimes it doesnt. Sometimes Im interested on topic around here, sometimes Im not. Sometimes I reply and sometimes I dont.
When you are so disturbed by these posts while having no issues yourself on topic why do you keep replying and noticing at all?
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This is a forum, where here it comes .....and its a shocker.........
where people talk about anything related to the game.
Yes, and you know what? There's also something known as forum etiquette. If there are already threads on a topic, you post to those topics. You don't FLOOD the forum by creating yet another thread on the same one.
Also, just know that starting a new thread on a topic that's already being discussed already rubs people the wrong way. It tells people that you're too precious to add your thoughts to a pre-existing discussion; you have to have a thread all your own. It's akin to that classic comedy scenario where the one member of a choir starts to sing louder than everyone else and proceeds to showboat.
Of course, this isn't to say that you should stop this practice of creating duplicate threads. It's a free country. If you want, you can make all the duplicate threads you want. Just don't expect other posters to respect you for it or not be annoyed by it.
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I would put it much more diplomatically than the OP, but I do have to say, the lag has been terrible for the last few days. I hope it gets resolved soon.
This isn't the forum for discussing it, because discussing it here won't help them fix it - assuming it's something they have any power over at all, which I doubt because of how many people (including me! And my connection isn't very good) aren't having trouble.
But if it is something Cryptic has power over? Go to the bug reporting forum. Put all the information you can possibly gather about your connection and its trouble (location, ISP, traceroute, all that stuff) in a thread for such things. You have data Cryptic can't possibly gather because they aren't at your house (I hope!), and I doubt this issue's going to be fixed without a pile of that sort of information.
So, again... if you want this to actually be fixed, instead of just to give yourself an excuse to complain on the Internet, go to the bug reporting forum and talk about it there while giving the information that might be relevant to fixing it.
Try pathping patchserver.crypticstudios.com when this is happening.
Some people having issues while others are just fine are strong indicators of a problem along a route, not a server problem. Or it could be a hardware configuration problem.
If *everyone*, not just some people complaining on the forums, was having problems, then it'd likely be a server problem.
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The only abnormal thing that has happened to me was get put into a login queue over the weekend, but the wait was not very long. Easily less than one minute in all cases. I am playing a STO on one laptop while I am streaming a 1080p video on another laptop.
Comparing other peoples connection logs to cryptics internet source... it's on Cryptics end that has a network issue, hence is why whenever I get online I see login failure, drop outs after you successfully login after a couple of minutes, and loading times are extremely slow.
I also have tested my other games that have multiplayer... such as War thunder, Wargaming's game, Planetside 2 and they all run SUPER smooth. Me and my friend had on-off connection spikes and drop outs throughout the last 2-3 years. Everyone should know for the fact Cryptics servers are unstable half of the time.
And if I am not on this computer? Well I play xbox one and all my games on Xbox one runs Super smooth again. I can keep going on and on about connections speed.
But it is a shame how the Cogent (aka also known as Cryptics internet source) is spoiling the excitement of season 10.
I am crossing my fingers that there is no server issues by the time season 10 happens.
P.S I have very good internet. I have played STO for almost 3 years (2 years currently) and out of all the days... why is there a huge issue this last 2 weeks???
Might as well just post "lol matrix online," or not even contribute to the discussion.
I hope Cryptic doesn't make it a point internally to compare themselves to MMOs developed in the late 90s.
You prove it isn't
Many here in the forums claim we who post here are a tiny minority yet I have saw in these forums many dozens of different posters with these issues
So put the shoe on your foot and prove him wrong
No Excuses prove it
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Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I suspect these issues are highly concentrated during peak hours. It would be nice if posters could include some data on when they're playing. I certainly notice little or no lag during the extremely off-peak hours I tend to play, outside of what seems to be a degenerative condition in space STFs.
Which raises an interesting point; I can experience zero lag in-game but outside of STFs, during simultaneous US and EU off-peak hours, and yet space STFs can run as a slide show.
space STFs slide show at times
Ground stfs normal
ESD sometimes lag ..sometimes there isnt
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
But rubberband space STF, during one of the lowest traffic hours of the day...I'm deeply suspicious that that's on my end, or Cogent's, or anywhere else but Cryptic's code.
Personally I think it isn't lag at all
I believe its the ship traits acting up again......That's why we don't see it on the ground
And this started at last Tuesdays patch
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
It's been present the entire time. Several pages back there's a good explanation as to why the rubberbanding is endemic to the game. It's a valid, if undesirable, response from the server. Probably not the most elegant way, from a player perspective, to handle whatever issue it is intended to address.
That also raises another issue; in some areas, it seems tied to traffic, such as rubberbanding in social zones. In other areas, such as STFs, it must be related to some other issue. And yes, even ground STFs can experience it, they just aren't currently and don't seem to as often.
The issues: 1. multiple clicks on a single power on tray. 2. rubber banding. 3. 3-6 seconds pauses in game/stf
I was going to spend 50 USD to get a bortasque pack for my new klingong delta recruit but as it is right now? no chance i wont drop one red cent on a game thats at times unplayable.
So idk whats going on but you guys need to look into this issue before it gets worse then what it is and starts making people just throw up thier hands and walk away. :mad:
there could be any number of reasons for the issue and you seem to think cryptic are directly behind it? have you ran tracert and other fuctions that can determine where the issue is? because if you can, post it in the correct place (which is not here), and see if it gets any help.
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the latest "patch" notes are a bad joke.
i'm speechless how they treat their customers
This must be it, the game lags less on ground and ISA seems currently the worst place to be in game.
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this IS the correct place to post that. the other correct places are on gaming blogs, facebook or gaming magazines. maybe then somebody starts to care
what warrants not having one?
This is a forum, where here it comes .....and its a shocker.........
where people talk about anything related to the game.
I do hope your not in the position of "just because one person posts about a subject that means another can't", because frankly you make one post about a issue and it can be lost in the forum litter even if you make multiple posts it still has a massive likelihood of getting lost.
its the age old proverb of "if you scream loudly enough god will hear you" lol.
and most of the time it works unfortunately for everyone here cryptic is pretty anti-social when it comes to the servers lol
EDIT: P.s sorry I haven't slept yet, hence the sarcy tone of my comment.
While thats a good suggestion, the number of people having problems across the board including myself kind of speaks for itself.
let alone the fact that most of those people started experiencing the problems on the exact same day.
Like a forumer said earlier, with neverwinters patch and the pre patching going on and the fact that STO shares bandwidth with other games... its very likely that the server is under a lot of stress and they aren't doing anything about it.
I have to agree that the new star ship traits are some of the key suspects, along with the trees. This coming from multiple test runs with the the traits on and off with different groups of people as well as a few test with the same group doing it a few times.
However, I have to disagree on when it started. It started for a group of us at the start of the anniversary event and never stopped. Ask anyone on the DPS channels, the admins reset it around that time when the Plasma console nerf went in. But after a few runs the lag was noticed and the time to re-qualify has yet, even as of now, been put in to have people re-qualify for the respective channels 30k and up.
A lot of people are saying they don't have lag. Shall we compare complete notes? This means running the exact same setup on ships as those who DO have lag. You want to see lag, you have to measure apples to apples. When you compare computer and internet connections you ARE ONLY comparing one piece of the large puzzle. I know people from different parts of the world seeing lag like I am. Some, a lot, are leaving the game over it until fixed.
So for anyone wanting to compare what might be the issue I invite you to join me (@saross0219) and see what myself and others see every day. If you don't have all the same traits, spec trees we can work on that and you'll see the lag slowly growing, to a point where the game is unbearable because what takes 2-3 minutes now takes nearly 4 times that due to the lag seen. This lag for us has gone on from 5:30PM EST to as late as 1-2AM EST. Well after the typical american work hours end.
Edit: I should point out that the times is what I see WHEN I play. On the weekends, it's any time of the day. This last weekend for example, I logged off and stopped playing and went to play other games. Even one from Cryptic with far less seen.
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Here is one for you:
Sometimes the game lags for me sometimes it doesnt. Sometimes Im interested on topic around here, sometimes Im not. Sometimes I reply and sometimes I dont.
When you are so disturbed by these posts while having no issues yourself on topic why do you keep replying and noticing at all?
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Yes, and you know what? There's also something known as forum etiquette. If there are already threads on a topic, you post to those topics. You don't FLOOD the forum by creating yet another thread on the same one.
Also, just know that starting a new thread on a topic that's already being discussed already rubs people the wrong way. It tells people that you're too precious to add your thoughts to a pre-existing discussion; you have to have a thread all your own. It's akin to that classic comedy scenario where the one member of a choir starts to sing louder than everyone else and proceeds to showboat.
Of course, this isn't to say that you should stop this practice of creating duplicate threads. It's a free country. If you want, you can make all the duplicate threads you want. Just don't expect other posters to respect you for it or not be annoyed by it.
This isn't the forum for discussing it, because discussing it here won't help them fix it - assuming it's something they have any power over at all, which I doubt because of how many people (including me! And my connection isn't very good) aren't having trouble.
But if it is something Cryptic has power over? Go to the bug reporting forum. Put all the information you can possibly gather about your connection and its trouble (location, ISP, traceroute, all that stuff) in a thread for such things. You have data Cryptic can't possibly gather because they aren't at your house (I hope!), and I doubt this issue's going to be fixed without a pile of that sort of information.
So, again... if you want this to actually be fixed, instead of just to give yourself an excuse to complain on the Internet, go to the bug reporting forum and talk about it there while giving the information that might be relevant to fixing it.
Some people having issues while others are just fine are strong indicators of a problem along a route, not a server problem. Or it could be a hardware configuration problem.
If *everyone*, not just some people complaining on the forums, was having problems, then it'd likely be a server problem.