The Iconians never truly disappeared. Their 'absence' have simply been marked by their servants - those who do their absolute bidding. The Solanae, the Elachi, the Vaadwaur all played a part in the Iconian's plans.
The Heralds are not a servitor race. They were not conquered, coerced, subjugated, bargained with, or grown. The relationship between the Heralds and the Iconians goes much deeper. The Heralds are children of Iconia. They are not the Iconians themselves, but they are native to Iconia and probably share a common ancestor with the Iconians.
That settles that little debate some were having about the Heralds actually *being* Iconian.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Bring 'em. Give me a few battlegroups consisting of:
Command Battlecruisers, Iconic Battleships, Fast Attack Ships (i.e. Saber-variant or Defiant/Birds-of-Prey Pilot ships) or Destroyers, and various Support Craft. Then throw a couple of carriers and their escorts in the mix.
Gateways that discharge the energies of a solar flare or a pulsar... yay! Challenge accepted!
Note to self.. Forget BFAW...you get hit with one of those you're dead. Time to reinvest in hull and shields.. Oh and tell my chief engineer to add some nitrous to the warp core!
I thought Iconians are called that way because they come from the planet Iconia. Since the Heralds also are native to Iconia, this officially makes them "Iconians" as well. So, now we have 2 types of Iconians? Or is there any other reason that Heralds cannot be referred to as "Iconians", except for not to confuse the two species? It's a writing mess, IMHO.
Where the Iconians are few in number (possibly very few), the Heralds are many.
So, they're from the same planet. And after 200.000 years there are billions of Heralds but only few Iconians left, even though the Iconians were spread out through the entire Milky Way galaxy?
I hope there will be some story details on why exactly there are only a few Iconians left and why they chose to breed Heralds rather than reproduce.
So, they're from the same planet. And after 200.000 years there are billions of Heralds but only few Iconians left, even though the Iconians were spread out through the entire Milky Way galaxy?
I hope there will be some story details on why exactly there are only a few Iconians left and why they chose to breed Heralds rather than reproduce.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Ok, that settles it ... the Iconians lost their balls in the Orbital Bombardment thus that's why they cannot reproduce anymore ... so good news folks we can beat these sissies! ^^
The Iconians we are facing now are simply 200,000+ year old Iconians, harboring the resentment for all these years.
Makes more sense then 200,000 years of new Iconians all being this mad over something they never even experienced themselves.
We already know the industrial accident in the solane dyson sphere made it to where the solane had to live in subspace or w/e, perhaps it changed the Iconians also.
hmm.. I guess it would also explain why the Elachi are transforming their victims into new Elachi... they may be working on a solution for the Iconians' infertility, much the same way the Kobali did.
Then again, I find it hard to believe that the most advanced species we encounter in STO is as good as extinct with only a few survivors remaining who are still angry for something we didn't even do. It's also hard to believe they wouldn't be able to find a solution to their possible problems. It makes them a bit less impressive for me.
Between these Iconian ships and the Iconian Rep armor, I'm not sure wheather the Iconians are trying to laugh us to death or we're trying to laugh them to death. But all in all, the whole Iconian thing is shaping up to be one huge comedy.
Sorry guys, but I'm just not feeling it. All of this is anticlimactic to me. Very dry, full of elements already seen in this game and other sci-fi shows.
"We need your help, Star Fox! Aparoids have declared war! They're invading the Milky Way and are trying to take over the quadrants! Our Delta Alliance army alone cant do the job! Hurry, Star Fox!"
1) Why would a Type III civilization with the ability to colonize more geography orbiting one star than in most of the Class M planets in the galaxy combined give a flog about what goes on outside those walls?
2) Any plans on expanding the Trek universe back to Andromeda? If the Iconians had a presence out that way, I'm sure the Kelvans have a few bones to pick with them.
3) Given the level of development in the hierarchy of species the Iconians have at their disposal, it's starting to stretch credulity that they were actually more than inconvenienced by the loss of Iconia...with Dyson Spheres at their disposal, being cheesed off about the loss of Iconia seems...petty...after a quarter million years.
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That settles that little debate some were having about the Heralds actually *being* Iconian.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
'Nuff said.
B:FAW will save us. B:FAW will solve all our problems. It doesn't really matter what Cryptic throws at us, the solution will always be B:FAW.
B:FAW is victory. Victory is life. All hail B:FAW.
Do we have a launch date for S10 yet? Or even a name?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Command Battlecruisers, Iconic Battleships, Fast Attack Ships (i.e. Saber-variant or Defiant/Birds-of-Prey Pilot ships) or Destroyers, and various Support Craft. Then throw a couple of carriers and their escorts in the mix.
Then we'll have some fun.
Note to self.. Forget BFAW...you get hit with one of those you're dead. Time to reinvest in hull and shields.. Oh and tell my chief engineer to add some nitrous to the warp core!
Ex-CoH players, Please add the chat channel "CoX STO"
Halo - check
Mass effect - check
Starship Troopers - Check
Star Wars - Check (crystalline sword)
Tron - Check
Can we get some Battlestar and Buck Rogers added?
:rolleyes:
Are these vulnerable to torpedoes, or do we just shoot whatever we can at them? Warp cores included, of course.
So, Season 11 - Iconia Rising?
So, they're from the same planet. And after 200.000 years there are billions of Heralds but only few Iconians left, even though the Iconians were spread out through the entire Milky Way galaxy?
I hope there will be some story details on why exactly there are only a few Iconians left and why they chose to breed Heralds rather than reproduce.
Why would you need a science ship when you can obliterate anybody and anything with a pulsar?
Escorts and science vessels are usually lumped together with cruisers. All of their ships seem to have science abilities anyway.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
The A'pex dreadnought looks like a frigin battlestar and the Elachi Sheshar looks like the Ron Moore version of a Basestar.
Oh and for homage sake can we please have one of the Harbingers say "We are the vanguard of your destruction."
then vaadwaur boss Gaul as Goa'uld
now finaly we will face the army lead by prior
time to make a toon named Teal'c
and the whole SG1 bof team
super excited!
Ok, that settles it ... the Iconians lost their balls in the Orbital Bombardment thus that's why they cannot reproduce anymore ... so good news folks we can beat these sissies! ^^
Solar Flare.
That's all I'm going to see when I fight those ships now. Thanks Cryptic. :P
Oh and this all looks awesome. I'm ready for it.
Mine Trap Supporter
Gods aren't big on sharing power.
hmm.. I guess it would also explain why the Elachi are transforming their victims into new Elachi... they may be working on a solution for the Iconians' infertility, much the same way the Kobali did.
Then again, I find it hard to believe that the most advanced species we encounter in STO is as good as extinct with only a few survivors remaining who are still angry for something we didn't even do. It's also hard to believe they wouldn't be able to find a solution to their possible problems. It makes them a bit less impressive for me.
Sorry guys, but I'm just not feeling it. All of this is anticlimactic to me. Very dry, full of elements already seen in this game and other sci-fi shows.
"We need your help, Star Fox! Aparoids have declared war! They're invading the Milky Way and are trying to take over the quadrants! Our Delta Alliance army alone cant do the job! Hurry, Star Fox!"
1) Why would a Type III civilization with the ability to colonize more geography orbiting one star than in most of the Class M planets in the galaxy combined give a flog about what goes on outside those walls?
2) Any plans on expanding the Trek universe back to Andromeda? If the Iconians had a presence out that way, I'm sure the Kelvans have a few bones to pick with them.
3) Given the level of development in the hierarchy of species the Iconians have at their disposal, it's starting to stretch credulity that they were actually more than inconvenienced by the loss of Iconia...with Dyson Spheres at their disposal, being cheesed off about the loss of Iconia seems...petty...after a quarter million years.
Really STO...the last game you'll want to borrow lore from right now is Guild Wars 2. They have Angel McCoy as writer...'nuff said.