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hatchetl4d
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Why did I pay 12k zen for the so HIGHLY PRAISED TOP OF THE LINE 10 console ships when there is already a new pack with 11 console ships for the same price. Please someone explain this to me. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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The first t5 had 9 consoles. For example the Defiant. Then, they started to add 10 consoles ships (fleet or ship without fleet versions like the Kumari). They also increased the price of the ships by 500zen. Why ? Because money.
Cryptic sells powercreep. 11 consoles ships were expected. Just like the rather new intel ship are going to be more or less obsolete in a year or so. Just like the bug ship, which was OP when it was released, became more or less obsolete in the end.
Then, as they already said, they are going to increase the level cap. Which mean another ship tier, and all the T6 will be obsolete, while the T7 (for 3500-4000zen a piece) are going to be the new masters.
As for the reasons why those ship have 11 consoles ? Because they will not have fleet version of them.
Without spending a penny on the game, once I refine all the Dil I've gathered in this bonus week, I'll have enough Zen to buy the Command ship 9-Pack or DR pack should I so choose, and I only came back to the game after a few months off at the beginning of December.
Play the game, collect the goodies and you will be rewarded. Grind and... Well you'll be rewarded a different way.
Bull#$%^
Yes, it happened with Tier 5, but they released Fleet Quality Z-Store ships long after Fleet Ships had been in the game. In this case, they jumped to Fleet Quality T6 before even giving players a Fleet Option on their existing ships. On top of that, they made them the same price as existing T6 ships just better. So now, not only are our current T6 ships knocked down a peg but we don't even have the option to get 'up to par.' We will eventually, but of course that requires yet another purchase.
The OP is exactly right, releasing Fleet Quality T6 Ships this way is total TRIBBLE.
Season 6 - July 12th, 2012 and the introduction of Fleet Ships.
March 15th, 2012 and the Bortasqu'/Odyssey 10 console ships.
Nope, doesn't work that way...March comes before July.
Things is these will be like the Dyson's and the Oddy/Bort sets which are more like flagships.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
And then we were told we were just entitled whiners?
Good times, good times...
CRYPTIC Are you reading these? Your business plans are resulting in a non paying base of customers. Does this work for your continued employment?
Somebody has to buy that Zen. It doesn't just magically appear on the dilithium exchange.
what iconians said.
Basically, the moment you log in you are supporting the game. If you would want to send a signal you can't log in at all. Provided your strength of will is sufficient to do that.
It's funny that a lot of people proclaiming how bad the game is and that everything has to change are the first in line to drop hundred of dollars for useless ingame items.
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I'm laughing at what iconians has put. Because he's dead right on this one. While I was tempted to buy an Intel ship. They let slip about fleet versions. So I held off buying one. So glad I did now. Just wondering how many of those that branded us self entitled whiners are now throwing a fit because of this? I'm not trying to troll anyone, but you've got to admit there is a certain amount of poetic justice in the release of these new ship.
This is exactly how it works.
If you ever make and refine dilithium and buy Zen with it, you are supporting the game.
If you buy Zen and sell it for dilithium for your own personal usage, you are supporting the game.
If you sell your Zen stipend for dilithium, you are supporting the game.
Cryptic doesn't care where the money comes from, as long as it shows up.
Because of THIS
The longer I think about it, the more upset I get.
Just logging in and not doing any of that helps the game - After all, the more people logged in, the busier the game looks, the more it encourages people to play, the more they might spend. You'd probably still be a small net loss, but not by much.
The avalanche has already started. The pebbles are too late to vote.
You are technically correct, which, as everybody should know by now... is the best kind of correct.
This pebble wonders if we ever had a vote to begin with.
Oh the pebbles had a vote. And you can see just where they voted by all the Delta Rising packs that were sold.
Anybody who bought an Intel ship told Cryptic straight up they were perfectly okay with new shiny ships being rendered obsolete regardless of the amount of time and money invested in them previously.
If you bought an Intel ship, you cast your vote in favor of this precedent. If anybody bought a Tempest-class Patrol Escort Retrofit, they cast their vote in favor of Cryptic double-dipping. If anybody bought a Pathfinder, they cast their vote in favor of Cryptic double-dipping.
Voting with your wallet does work both ways.
Honestly, the only problem I have with this post is it isn't quite as entertaining as the original, unedited version.
Really? I thought the current version was snarkier. I'll keep that in mind the next time somebody complains about this exact topic.
And it will come up again.
After all, once the novelty and lustre of the Command ships wears off and Cryptic introduces the... *spins wheel*... T6 Tactical Botanist Dreadnoughts... we'll have people bring up that they feel ripped off that they bought the Command Ship pack only a few months prior!
The 4-Piece Tactical Botany console set clearly would give people who own the Command ships a big fat chunk of buyer's remorse.
The silver lining to that particular cloud though?
Botanist Kit Modules. So I can throw Mk XIV Rotten Produce at enemies. And then give my team buffs with Mk XIV Spinach. I hear the "Sailor Man" passive specialization trait increases its potential by 120%.
At least when they 'obsoleted' T5, they had the decency to offer T5-U Upgrade tokens. Where's that T6-U token for my Phantom?!
I hear that argument a lot (usually from vestereng :P). Thing is, that 'voting with your wallet' doesn't work all that well. It would, if you could get organized; but there's the rub: you can't get people to collectively protest. They simply won't, and it will just leave me without an Intel ship, delusionally thinking "I showed them, didn't I?!"
So, for me, the best course of action is not to sobatage the game, but to support it, yet *still* ask Cryptic play fair. Which is what I'm doing now: if Command ships get an extra free Console slot, give all my current T6 ships one too.
It's pretty universal - you buy something it will be made obsolete by something else (even if that obsolescence is percieved and not actual)
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No, no, not that simple.
The obsoleting of T5 was allegedly a one-time thing (or like an every-5-years-or-so thing), born out of necessity, because there was a major one-time level-cap increase.
Nowhere, however well you search the place, was it ever said we were gonna get screwed like this every few months.
Am I the only person who thinks Command Spec would work really well on a heavy Sci Torp boat instead of a Eng Cruiser? This would have been a great opportunity for a Nebula revamp. Most KDF/RRF I know would've been more pleased w/Sci ships than these, but Feds like their cruisers(plus have 3 T6 Sci ships already).
But of course complaining is to be expected for everything, so this is not at all surprising. No doubt some of the people who buy these command ships will whine just as hard when fleet intel ships come. :rolleyes:
Lockbox ships always have an extra console (compared to C-Store ships); but they can't be upgraded to Fleet, is the difference.
The DR pack itself is also far superior to this command cruiser lineup. These aren't epic deeps ships, they're just a decent set of support ships dressed up to make people think they're escorts in disguise. Besides the difference between 10 and 11 consoles, or 12 and 13 boff slots is tiny. My main sci does everything so much better in her T5FU neb, than her T6 pathfinder (skinned as an intrepid) and as a result flies the latter about 5% of the time. I use a MU nova on a tac as a sci deeps ship and use the scryer on the same toon as a heals only stealth ship. And although the stats would suggest I'm doing that backwards in my experience these ships excel at the tasks I've given them but didn't work so well the other way around.
Besides you can't blame Cryptic for putting out the ships, and the bundle though expensive does make the ships individually cheap... but you're still paying for 3 copies of 1 ship, with 2 extra skins, and consoles to keep your bank slots warm. But they make their money off ships and if it means I can still enjoy ships like my exeter or phantom day after day then I don't really mind it. At least the ships are good unlike some 9 packs.
Thread could have ended with this.