You're right but here is the thing. Right now. PVP crybabbies are working their hardest to drive players away from pvp.
PVE crybabies are working their hardest to drive players away from STO.
Just saying.
I mean seriously, I look around the forums and what do I see? I see a game being played by folks off their meds that take the shortbus to the internet. I don't want to be a part of that kind of game. Hell, I don't want to be a member of the species that can produce such a thing.
Oh I get the point - the loudest voice is heard. The point is to attack on day one to push the agenda of a teensy tiny minority and make it seem larger than it is. You brought out all your friends here and this pvp is about the only thing being discussed in this thread - so it must be very important to the game overall - right?
Oh come on....do you seriously believe that any discussion in this forum has any leverage on anything what is developed and put into STO??
Welcome to the new Captain of STO!!!!! May your updates be bug free, and your Zen be profitable!!!
Combining sector space is a really great idea,, those warp gates are annoying as all heck!!!
As a veteran/lifetime subscriber/ beta tester id like to say LONG LIVE STO!!!! After 5 years I have to say the game has seen great change. I remember when there wasn't enough story to get to level 40!!!! I remember when the Galaxy-X entered the game! I remember when MVAM was added to the Prometheus!!!
With all that in mind id like to throw out a minor suggestion as that seems to be the theme of the thread:
Carrier pet commands for Saucer separating ships: Galaxy, Odyssey, MVAM, etc.
One more thing: I'd like to see more ship with separation ability,, and maybe the Prometheus can get some loven! OR a T-6 MVAM ship would be AWESOME!!!
Ow,, ONE more thing: Perhaps a BIT more tweaking of ground combat. Many missions have a lot of STUFF on the maps in the combat area... Kabali Prime is a good example. The baddies seem to LOVE shooting and hiding,, and shooting and hiding again.. which is a great strategy for them, however AutoTargeting has a fit when this happens,, the target is still there,, but is not able to be attacked because of the obstacle... perhaps a bit of a tweak to autotargeting would be great!!
Anyway,, WELCOME TO S.T.O E.P,!!!!!! Look forward to hearing more about season 10 AND BEYONNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!
*************************** Fleet Admiral In charge of Bacon Fighting 5th Attack Squadron The Devils Henchman
Lets hope this one can rein in Geko's idiocy ("Dinosaurs with frikin lasers on their heads" anyone?) and to balance the monetisation against content people will desire to play, if he can do that I think he'll get a good rep in the community, then he just has to worry about the management.
I concurred with this statement .
In the beginning there was all and then become nothing
I AM PISSED OFF AFTER 3 YRS. I STILL CAN'T USE OR CHANGE OR DELETE OUTFIT IN 3 OF 5 OUTFIT SLOTS ON MY KLINGON TOON !
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
You realize you're proving the point of toxicity of PvP community with these comments, right?
Also, competition is all good and nice, but some of us simply play this game because it's Star Trek, and we don't want to play Red vs Blue here.
Being bitter towards people, who enjoy Trek and not PvP is not going to win or get you anything, your PvP fixes, nor any sympathies... aside of those like you, who just need to spew hate at the welcoming post of a new guy, who didn't even make any decisions yet; thus again, proving, how toxic PvP players are.
But a good MMO can satisfy both PvE AND PvP. As far as PvP players being bitter, I see that on both sides of the coin. The are players who are bitterly against having PvP as well. There should be no reason why there isnt room to have auality content for all Star Trek fans. I love the concept of exploration and other PvE content, but my game playing has really been sharpened by fighting living and thinking targets too. Sure there a jerks that play PvP but there are some real humdingers that dont PvP either. I have made long term friends on both aspects of the game too.
Which are generally single player... so they really have nothing to do with the online aspect of this game.
Your point being? You just ASSUMED things about what I wrote earlier, I called you out on it, now you're bashing the point that I talked about single-player (albeit you can invite people to help you with missions) content? How does it not affect the 'online' aspect? I chat in different channels, help others with missions (if they want) .. just because my definition of 'online' is different than your definition doesn't make it any less valid.
You're right but here is the thing. Right now. PVP crybabbies are working their hardest to drive players away from pvp.
Wrong, Cryptic's negligent behavior when it comes to PvP has been driving away players from PvP.
Did you miss the whole part about breaking the game balance intentionally for $$$ for pvers and casuals? The dozen+ promises broken to Fix PvP? The reason why there are so many aggressive pvp forum players is because Cryptic has driven us away from the gameplay and into the forum in hopes that SOMEONE over there will do something. Sure we may not always be nice nice about it. But we have reasons for why we are fed up with it.
Look, I like STO it has many great ideas, but until things are corrected, PvP and Game Balance and less greedy cash cow plots. I'm going to remain here until then.
its not our fault that your IQ cant handle playerVSplayer content.
Yes, lets stir up the consternation a bunch so the whole thread can become one big Pizzant-party.
:rolleyes:
And you wonder why many folks don't care for PvP... you folks shoot yourself in the foot just as many times as Cryptic does.
<shakes head>
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
PVE crybabies are working their hardest to drive players away from STO.
Just saying.
I mean seriously, I look around the forums and what do I see? I see a game being played by folks off their meds that take the shortbus to the internet. I don't want to be a part of that kind of game. Hell, I don't want to be a member of the species that can produce such a thing.
This is true.
Some PVE players need to get good and learn to draw out more than 10% percent of a ship's true power.
Some PVP players need to get that stick out of their hindquarters and beat themselves with it.
There is more but these two things are what I think should be taken care of by the playerbase.
Woohoo, sector space will no longer feel (as much) like flying around in boxes! I've been waiting for this since launch. Good deal. And welcome, Mr. Ricossa.
well, welcome to the top spot Stephen Ricossa! please use this position to
-put the grind thresholds more near to pre DR level
-make specialization experience account wide
-encourage systems team not to make things that ruin pvp wile having little effect in pve
-give pvp some love, starting with making all gear in pvp matches leveless
-start an npc revamp, that focuses on making npcs operate more like player ships, were station powers make up the majority of their potential hitpoints and DPS, npcs that science debuffs would be as effective against as pure DPS is
I also find it a bit disconcerting that the staff at Cryptic and PWE feels obligated to pass a Star Trek fan litmus test whenever they introduce themselves.
It's not a trend I'm very fond of.
Actually, I think it's fair. This is Star Trek Online, after all. Maybe low-level team members don't need to be familiar with Trek, but anyone on the team with decision-making power absolutely should be.
I'm probably a little biased, being one of the people working on this for a couple months, but I think it's going to be amazing! Obviously can't talk much about it yet, but there's more to it than just smooshing things together.
It's not the Majority of player base has no interest in PvP, but rather there's nothing in PvP that interesting for the player base.
This x1000. I would love to PvP again, even though I was never really any good at it. The way things are now, it's not even worth trying to improve my PvP skills because PvP is just so freaking broken.
Your point being? You just ASSUMED things about what I wrote earlier, I called you out on it, now you're bashing the point that I talked about single-player (albeit you can invite people to help you with missions) content? How does it not affect the 'online' aspect? I chat in different channels, help others with missions (if they want) .. just because my definition of 'online' is different than your definition doesn't make it any less valid.
nor makes it heres! and that is the point! pve gets overloaded more and more with every single update, while pvp got nothing but empty promises. LOTS of empty promises...
But a good MMO can satisfy both PvE AND PvP. As far as PvP players being bitter, I see that on both sides of the coin. The are players who are bitterly against having PvP as well. There should be no reason why there isnt room to have auality content for all Star Trek fans. I love the concept of exploration and other PvE content, but my game playing has really been sharpened by fighting living and thinking targets too. Sure there a jerks that play PvP but there are some real humdingers that dont PvP either. I have made long term friends on both aspects of the game too.
^^^This right here. I enjoy all aspects of a well rounded game. I have a PS4 for when I want to play by myself or with a few friends. I don't hunt out an MMO for just one piece of the pie. It's a big place and room for everyone.
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Oh come on....do you seriously believe that any discussion in this forum has any leverage on anything what is developed and put into STO??
I LOL'D.......I genuinely LOL'D!!! :P
Absolutely I do. I've seen it in each game that I have played - true only 3 (and one pure pvp btw) But I firmly believe that executives often run out of ideas and are heavily influenced by the loudest and most persistent voices. These are always a small minority and always at the expense of the majority and, eventually, the game.
Let's consider Delta Rising. It's basically a response to endless 30 second ISE videos that someone decided could end up making a lot of money for the company - so they took the idea and ran with it. They all must want harder content!
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
The only people I take anger out on are, fanboys, Dev script kiddies, greedy companies, PvErs/PvPers that don't give a damn about game balance but pretend they know what they are talking about.
But PvE has just as many toxic people as PvP, if not more. I have ran into many elitist pvEers that think they are #1 cause they can kill a borg cube, they talk all trash until I explode them politely. But don't try to make this sound like PvP has a monopoly on the rude, elitist players.
Really? PvEers are more toxic than PvPers? I don't like PvP, in any game I play, I don't PvP. The people who are being toxic are people like you and others in this thread. You want PvP development, fine, but don't be surprised when it doesn't happen the way you want. Frankly, the less attention paid to PvP the better.
Wrong, Cryptic's negligent behavior when it comes to PvP has been driving away players from PvP.
Did you miss the whole part about breaking the game balance intentionally for $$$ for pvers and casuals? The dozen+ promises broken to Fix PvP? The reason why there are so many aggressive pvp forum players is because Cryptic has driven us away from the gameplay and into the forum in hopes that SOMEONE over there will do something. Sure we may not always be nice nice about it. But we have reasons for why we are fed up with it.
Look, I like STO it has many great ideas, but until things are corrected, PvP and Game Balance and less greedy cash cow plots. I'm going to remain here until then.
Guess what? You know the reason why I don't pvp. It is not the consoles, ships, lack of maps, rewards, or anything of that nature.
It is simple. The players. Most of the time when I pvp against random people they are pricks, so much so that I get toxic to match them. That is not a good way to enjoy a game so stopped.
So when I say this I speak firsthand. PVP players drove me from pvp.
Edit: To show that I take both sides of the matter.
Bad pugs drove me out of the queues too. PVE players to get their TRIBBLE together as well
Season 10 was suppose to focus on PVP content according to the 1st Commander in charge now 3 times removed I guess we change the focus and direction set forth.
Not upset about the sector space thing that's cool to. just the change in promises made every time someone STEPS DOWN.
GOODBYE Stephen DAngelo!!!!
Lets hope the new leadership will bring some good wind in our sails.
And maybe the lag will be fixed so we can play star trek online again
nor makes it heres! and that is the point! pve gets overloaded more and more with every single update, while pvp got nothing but empty promises. LOTS of empty promises...
so.... fair game?!
The game isn't called 'Star Trek PvP Online' or 'Star Trek PvE Online' .. it's 'Star Trek Online'. How the devs decide to manage what content is added or removed is up to them. I speak for me and ONLY me. If you don't like the content, file a ticket, start a lobby, whatever.
I gave my opinion of PvP earlier. I don't do it, but don't mind others that do, so long as it isn't mandatory for character development.
lol, "don't develop" lol... because it's so threatening?.... in which way? now plz one tell me: how would developing pvp threaten ur gameplay at all?! not that it was promised for years, blablayaddayadda (dig the points urselves)
^^^This right here. I enjoy all aspects of a well rounded game. I have a PS4 for when I want to play by myself or with a few friends. I don't hunt out an MMO for just one piece of the pie. It's a big place and room for everyone.
Exactly. Furthermore, over the years, much of what I have seen in calls for improved PvP never suggested improvement at the expense of PvE. Only when assumptions and insults were made by the PvE only community did I see shots directly made at PvE. PvP'ers play PvE too. To presume that improvement should be made only at the expense of another area is a bery shortsighted way of thinking ( no offense inteded).
lol, "don't develop" lol... because it's so threatening?.... in which way? now plz one tell me: how would developing pvp threaten ur gameplay at all?! not that it was promised for years, blablayaddayadda (dig the points urselves)
u guys really must be star trek fans lol.....
.... aye, ONLINE! WHERE THERE ARE BOTH ASPECTS! NOT JUST THE ONE U WANT!
I never said it did LEARN TO READ .. I'm just against MANDATORY PvP ... M-A-N-D-A-T-O-R-Y .. which means there is NO CHOICE but to PvP.
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PVE crybabies are working their hardest to drive players away from STO.
Just saying.
I mean seriously, I look around the forums and what do I see? I see a game being played by folks off their meds that take the shortbus to the internet. I don't want to be a part of that kind of game. Hell, I don't want to be a member of the species that can produce such a thing.
Oh come on....do you seriously believe that any discussion in this forum has any leverage on anything what is developed and put into STO??
I LOL'D.......I genuinely LOL'D!!!
Combining sector space is a really great idea,, those warp gates are annoying as all heck!!!
As a veteran/lifetime subscriber/ beta tester id like to say LONG LIVE STO!!!! After 5 years I have to say the game has seen great change. I remember when there wasn't enough story to get to level 40!!!! I remember when the Galaxy-X entered the game! I remember when MVAM was added to the Prometheus!!!
With all that in mind id like to throw out a minor suggestion as that seems to be the theme of the thread:
Carrier pet commands for Saucer separating ships: Galaxy, Odyssey, MVAM, etc.
One more thing: I'd like to see more ship with separation ability,, and maybe the Prometheus can get some loven! OR a T-6 MVAM ship would be AWESOME!!!
Ow,, ONE more thing: Perhaps a BIT more tweaking of ground combat. Many missions have a lot of STUFF on the maps in the combat area... Kabali Prime is a good example. The baddies seem to LOVE shooting and hiding,, and shooting and hiding again.. which is a great strategy for them, however AutoTargeting has a fit when this happens,, the target is still there,, but is not able to be attacked because of the obstacle... perhaps a bit of a tweak to autotargeting would be great!!
Anyway,, WELCOME TO S.T.O E.P,!!!!!! Look forward to hearing more about season 10 AND BEYONNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!
Fleet Admiral In charge of Bacon
Fighting 5th Attack Squadron
The Devils Henchman
I concurred with this statement .
I AM PISSED OFF AFTER 3 YRS. I STILL CAN'T USE OR CHANGE OR DELETE OUTFIT IN 3 OF 5 OUTFIT SLOTS ON MY KLINGON TOON !
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
But a good MMO can satisfy both PvE AND PvP. As far as PvP players being bitter, I see that on both sides of the coin. The are players who are bitterly against having PvP as well. There should be no reason why there isnt room to have auality content for all Star Trek fans. I love the concept of exploration and other PvE content, but my game playing has really been sharpened by fighting living and thinking targets too. Sure there a jerks that play PvP but there are some real humdingers that dont PvP either. I have made long term friends on both aspects of the game too.
Your point being? You just ASSUMED things about what I wrote earlier, I called you out on it, now you're bashing the point that I talked about single-player (albeit you can invite people to help you with missions) content? How does it not affect the 'online' aspect? I chat in different channels, help others with missions (if they want) .. just because my definition of 'online' is different than your definition doesn't make it any less valid.
Wrong, Cryptic's negligent behavior when it comes to PvP has been driving away players from PvP.
Did you miss the whole part about breaking the game balance intentionally for $$$ for pvers and casuals? The dozen+ promises broken to Fix PvP? The reason why there are so many aggressive pvp forum players is because Cryptic has driven us away from the gameplay and into the forum in hopes that SOMEONE over there will do something. Sure we may not always be nice nice about it. But we have reasons for why we are fed up with it.
Look, I like STO it has many great ideas, but until things are corrected, PvP and Game Balance and less greedy cash cow plots. I'm going to remain here until then.
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Yes, lets stir up the consternation a bunch so the whole thread can become one big Pizzant-party.
:rolleyes:
And you wonder why many folks don't care for PvP... you folks shoot yourself in the foot just as many times as Cryptic does.
<shakes head>
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
This is true.
Some PVE players need to get good and learn to draw out more than 10% percent of a ship's true power.
Some PVP players need to get that stick out of their hindquarters and beat themselves with it.
There is more but these two things are what I think should be taken care of by the playerbase.
With that said, I agree with every word of this:
Amen to all of that.
Actually, I think it's fair. This is Star Trek Online, after all. Maybe low-level team members don't need to be familiar with Trek, but anyone on the team with decision-making power absolutely should be.
Coming from you, that's exciting
This x1000. I would love to PvP again, even though I was never really any good at it. The way things are now, it's not even worth trying to improve my PvP skills because PvP is just so freaking broken.
nor makes it heres! and that is the point! pve gets overloaded more and more with every single update, while pvp got nothing but empty promises. LOTS of empty promises...
so.... fair game?!
^^^This right here. I enjoy all aspects of a well rounded game. I have a PS4 for when I want to play by myself or with a few friends. I don't hunt out an MMO for just one piece of the pie. It's a big place and room for everyone.
Lifetime Sub since June 2010
Absolutely I do. I've seen it in each game that I have played - true only 3 (and one pure pvp btw) But I firmly believe that executives often run out of ideas and are heavily influenced by the loudest and most persistent voices. These are always a small minority and always at the expense of the majority and, eventually, the game.
Let's consider Delta Rising. It's basically a response to endless 30 second ISE videos that someone decided could end up making a lot of money for the company - so they took the idea and ran with it. They all must want harder content!
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
I probably laughed way harder at that than I should have.
...and you'll have people complain about it. {sigh} :rolleyes:
(Probably the same people that complain about lack of immersion...)
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Guess what? You know the reason why I don't pvp. It is not the consoles, ships, lack of maps, rewards, or anything of that nature.
It is simple. The players. Most of the time when I pvp against random people they are pricks, so much so that I get toxic to match them. That is not a good way to enjoy a game so stopped.
So when I say this I speak firsthand. PVP players drove me from pvp.
Edit: To show that I take both sides of the matter.
Bad pugs drove me out of the queues too. PVE players to get their TRIBBLE together as well
Not upset about the sector space thing that's cool to. just the change in promises made every time someone STEPS DOWN.
Lets hope the new leadership will bring some good wind in our sails.
And maybe the lag will be fixed so we can play star trek online again
The game isn't called 'Star Trek PvP Online' or 'Star Trek PvE Online' .. it's 'Star Trek Online'. How the devs decide to manage what content is added or removed is up to them. I speak for me and ONLY me. If you don't like the content, file a ticket, start a lobby, whatever.
I gave my opinion of PvP earlier. I don't do it, but don't mind others that do, so long as it isn't mandatory for character development.
u guys really must be star trek fans lol.....
They have been talking about this scene Daniel Stahl was In charge the first time
Its called failing upwards.
Exactly. Furthermore, over the years, much of what I have seen in calls for improved PvP never suggested improvement at the expense of PvE. Only when assumptions and insults were made by the PvE only community did I see shots directly made at PvE. PvP'ers play PvE too. To presume that improvement should be made only at the expense of another area is a bery shortsighted way of thinking ( no offense inteded).
HHmmm I always thought the fact that you have no PVP playing skills would be the reason to drive a player from PVP content.
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Dahar master: House of Duras
I never said it did LEARN TO READ .. I'm just against MANDATORY PvP ... M-A-N-D-A-T-O-R-Y .. which means there is NO CHOICE but to PvP.
plz excuse the red flimmer on my eyes after being a part of this thread for some time now lol. i got it and edited it out
sry for misreading u in the first place! (not an excuse, but a fact: english is not my mother-tongue. in short: sry, i'm german