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  • rickskynightrickskynight Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You did realize that we're not getting the options of upgrading to Mark XIV and epic until Delta Rising launches, right?

    The goal of the system is to get your gear ready for a greater challenge when Delta Rising comes.



    First off, you're comparing STO to a single player game. The story missions for most of the game may play like a single player game, but by the time you get to higher level content, this is when the game get more feeling like an MMO.

    I think you don't understand what the reputation, crafting really are supposed to do for us, at least in the way the devs have created them.

    The Reputation system was designed as a way to deliver different flavors of gear towards people in a way that was easier to come by. Most of the Omega reputation gear already existed, but it was disjointed and it wasn't quick to obtain in most cases. Aside from New Romulus reputation, most of the other reputation gear is designed to be used against a certain group, i.e. Omega against borg, Nukara against Tholians and so forth.

    I fail to see how ships are becoming a reputation system. Unlike the reputation system, the starship mastery doesn't require any manual input. The ships go earn mastery through you using them, just like you level yourself defeating enemies.

    As far as the crafting system goes, the system was supposed to be designed in such a way that players wouldn't have to necessarily join a fleet just to get high level gear, as well as giving players access to an energy type that doesn't usually drop in the game as a common place. I fail to see how it even represents a reputation system. You are only inputting dilithium at the higher stages and using only Energy credits for certain parts.

    The way I see it, all of these are supposed to represent progress within our characters. If you don't want to participate, then feel free not to. You have nothing to lose other than three ways to progress.

    Now can we get back to talking about the gear upgrade system as this is what this thread is supposed to be about?

    Well said. I think people are only looking at how it affects only themselves and not the game as a whole. Not everyone is in a fleet or wants to be. Some don't want to bother with the reputation system. Hell half my alts are just there for the Doff Marauding LOL. The crafting and upgrade system and cool and they arent perfect yet, but what new thing released ever is?
  • lionsilverlionsilver Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Find me one MMORPG that has no grind in it whatsoever. I doubt one exists.

    What do you do when you are working on a new character? grinding XP to level. That alone should really turn you off from making any more characters if you don't like grinding, especially since Delta Rising is going to bring in yet another 10 levels to work up to.


    Let me clear myself a bit, EXCESSIVE grind. Standard varies. But in my opinion, anything is no fun while grinding is excessive. STO actually have fairly enjoyable level up system. You level through episodes instead of repetitive PVE. I have no problem with it. Pre crafting upgrade end game is actually not too bad. It's long, but workable. Start from the new craft system, everything went down hills. Either pay more, or grind with multiple toons. Oh wait, the new system actually "encourage" you to stay focus on one toon. The end result, forever grind, over-priced exchange, and bored players
  • coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Sure you have the choice to either craft your way up to the top level. Don't craft and keep on going as normal. Do reps, collect from loot from drop where I am seeing higher drops now in the elites PVE though more rare and very rare is showing up.

    I am playing as I like to play to have fun. I did repeat a mission, because I had wanted get shield from guardian mission level 18. That offers a choice of a mark 11 alien tech shield. Using the Upgrade Gear option to make it into mark 12 rare.

    See if that could be upgraded?. I got some additional power shield bonus again seem to be offered as free. So gave it a shot. Only cost me 2K in refined dith... This time no tech update to buy. End result was 9K plus shield when in a battle it shot over 12.3K x 4 over the shielding on the ship. My current shield is mark 12 very rare it can't be upgraded. I get a message saying it's already maxed out.

    I see all of this if you want to do what you want, then do it! Most will hold on tight to there resources. I do that but if I need something I'll get it if I can. A lot of the Rep stuff is a mix bag of gear. You really need to know which one works well on your ship and your crew along as yourself.

    DR will be a good test run for me so I can see how everything I have Frankenstein Rep Gear I am using. I test daily and run PVE and etc.. It's the only way to test and grab additional resources.
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  • pwecaptainsmirkpwecaptainsmirk Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    For anyone who might still be experiencing some problems with the Upgrade Kit collection mission, make sure you exit the map and then return to the proper vendor and this should take care of the problem.

    Also don't forget, the items will be in your R&D Inventory Tab this time, even if your previously collect upgrade kits are still in your main inventory.

    Thanks and have fun everyone!
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  • ikuruyoikuruyo Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    My level 1 alts that I plan to level up some day completed the mission for the new "Bonus Event" version of the upgrade kits. I talked to the right person and they said "Enjoy" and I got nothing. Nothing in my inventory and nothing in the R&D tab.

    I was able to pick up the kits last time and store them for later but this time I was not given anything. This is true for my level 1 fed and my level 3 kdf. It might be that its locked to the R&D or doff systems being unlocked now but there is no mention of that anywhere in the notes or instructions. And when I logged in I was given the mission which auto-completed. I just did not get any reward when talking to the contact.

    I did try logging out and changin maps with no effect.
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ikuruyo wrote: »
    My level 1 alts that I plan to level up some day completed the mission for the new "Bonus Event" version of the upgrade kits. I talked to the right person and they said "Enjoy" and I got nothing. Nothing in my inventory and nothing in the R&D tab.

    I was able to pick up the kits last time and store them for later but this time I was not given anything. This is true for my level 1 fed and my level 3 kdf. It might be that its locked to the R&D or doff systems being unlocked now but there is no mention of that anywhere in the notes or instructions. And when I logged in I was given the mission which auto-completed. I just did not get any reward when talking to the contact.

    I did try logging out and changin maps with no effect.

    Had the exact same problem on a lvl 6 toon... So I deleted it and made a new toon, which immediately got a message saying they had completed the bonus event message. Not taking any chances I leveled this one to lvl and THEN went to talk to Shelby. Mission completed, no upgrade kits or accelerators.

    On both occasions I made sure to check both the main inventory AND the R&D inventory
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The minimum level required to get the kits is now level 10. Guess too many people exploited the free kits before. ;)
  • iamynaughtiamynaught Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    orondis wrote: »
    Had the exact same problem on a lvl 6 toon... So I deleted it and made a new toon, which immediately got a message saying they had completed the bonus event message. Not taking any chances I leveled this one to lvl and THEN went to talk to Shelby. Mission completed, no upgrade kits or accelerators.

    On both occasions I made sure to check both the main inventory AND the R&D inventory

    I did almost the exact same thing you did, except I didn't delete and remake.

    I had an alt I just started out yesterday before server maintenance and was going to get it to level 10 today to collect the free R&D items. I didn't bother even trying to claim the mission until I got to lvl 10 before lunch today. Talked to Shelby and the mission finished with no rewards.

    I understand that last time people exploited the TRIBBLE out of the system so the new "can't claim until lvl 10" barrier was put in place. That's fine, I get it and agree with it. However, I didn't try to claim the mission until I WAS lvl 10. The mission is automatically given as soon as you log in after the event starts so it wasn't like I PLANNED for this to happen. And now, most likely, I'm screwed out of getting the R&D items for this week since the work-around for the exploit is causing it's own problems.

    Perhaps have the mission only show up AFTER the character is lvl 10?

    Oh well, there's always next week. Unless something gets fixed between now and then. :rolleyes:
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Why is everyone upgrading already?

    Shouldn't we wait and see if any of the DR equipment is better than we have before wasting resources?
  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Why is everyone upgrading already?

    Shouldn't we wait and see if any of the DR equipment is better than we have before wasting resources?

    Not everyone is upgrading I'm waiting till the R&D School is 15 before I decide to upgrade my equipment.
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  • darknessmutadarknessmuta Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    For anyone who might still be experiencing some problems with the Upgrade Kit collection mission, make sure you exit the map and then return to the proper vendor and this should take care of the problem.

    Also don't forget, the items will be in your R&D Inventory Tab this time, even if your previously collect upgrade kits are still in your main inventory.

    Thanks and have fun everyone!
    ~CaptainSmirk

    I too also just had the bug earlier when trying to run the mission on a lower level character. I didn't realize there was a level change and talked to Shelby on my level 8 character that worked last week and it said mission complete but no items received so I came to the forums to see about the bug and saw you have to be level 10. After getting that character to 10, still no items or the mission reappearing like it should.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    robeasom wrote: »
    Not everyone is upgrading I'm waiting till the R&D School is 15 before I decide to upgrade my equipment.

    I've heard upgrading isn't related to your R&D progress, but I took a look anyway and was stunned when my purple mkXI piece was upgradable to mk XII @ 1 superior tech upgrade and a 2X multiplier with only a 5% chance or being very rare.
    :(
    A mk XI purple is already a Mk XII blue. Funny how the system rips you off and doesn't tell you.
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  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    I've heard upgrading isn't related to your R&D progress, but I took a look anyway and was stunned when my purple mkXI piece was upgradable to mk XII @ 1 superior tech upgrade and a 2X multiplier with only a 5% chance or being very rare.
    :(
    A mk XI purple is already a Mk XII blue. Funny how the system rips you off and doesn't tell you.


    If your result was a MK XII Blue piece you really need to bug it as the upgrade is the same rarity as when you started unless you are lucky and get that 5% chance in which case it will be MK XII Ultra Rare instead. Just hover over the expected result icon and you can see what rarity you are at right now.

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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dirlettia wrote: »
    If your result was a MK XII Blue piece you really need to bug it as the upgrade is the same rarity as when you started unless you are lucky and get that 5% chance in which case it will be MK XII Ultra Rare instead. Just hover over the expected result icon and you can see what rarity you are at right now.

    Hmm, it definitely was mk XII blue but I wasn't going to upgrade and only get a blue. Can't really report it if I didn't go thru with it, and besides I don't know if it isn't working as intended.
    :confused:

    ...But it definitely was blue as a possible outcome from a ppl.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Hmm, it definitely was mk XII blue but I wasn't going to upgrade and only get a blue. Can't really report it if I didn't go thru with it, and besides I don't know if it isn't working as intended.
    :confused:

    ...But it definitely was blue as a possible outcome from a ppl.

    Screenshot the "expected results" window and report that...

    At best, there's an error with the expected result screen. At worst, there's an error with the actual upgrade system, they've advertised that all upgrades should stay at best the current rarity...

    On that note, copy character to tribble and try out the upgrade, if you're so inclined... :)
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    will do, tonight when I get home.
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  • paramvirmodiparamvirmodi Member Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dareau wrote: »
    Screenshot the "expected results" window and report that...

    At best, there's an error with the expected result screen. At worst, there's an error with the actual upgrade system, they've advertised that all upgrades should stay at best the current rarity...

    On that note, copy character to tribble and try out the upgrade, if you're so inclined... :)

    I did the upgrades after adding more dilithium and paying for the basic upgrades (for beam/shields/cannons/projectiles). All the gear was upgraded as shown in the "Possible Upgrade" Icon.

    But it costs 10000 EC per basic upgrade+700 Dilithium for each click. I wanted this fast a personal choice, and they were fine.

    However, the gears from the Tier 4 or 5 levels for each Species, wasnt working correctly. They don't show "possible" much improvement over the current Mark 12 gear. Especially, the warp cores and shields.

    Thanks,
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  • paramvirmodiparamvirmodi Member Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited October 2014

    I did the upgrades after adding more dilithium and paying for the basic upgrades (for beam/shields/cannons/projectiles). All the gear was upgraded as shown in the "Possible Upgrade" Icon.

    But it costs 10000 EC per basic upgrade+700 Dilithium for each click. I wanted this fast a personal choice, and they were fine.

    However, the gears from the Tier 4 or 5 levels for each Species, wasnt working correctly. They don't show "possible" much improvement over the current Mark 12 gear. Especially, the warp cores and shields.

    Thanks,
    Paramvir


    I suggest if you have EC and Dil in large Quantities, use this approach.
    I tried the same with Gravimetric/Omega/Romular hyper plasma torps, they showed some good numbers in Mark 13.

    I tried for beams and cannons, they were fine.

    I only ran for Reman advanced prototype shield from X to XI and Solanae Shields, it showed a marginal jump of 3-5% improvement.
  • lizzygracemountlizzygracemount Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I tried to upgrade my ships shields, but instead of upgrading them, the system took my dilithium and materials but not upgrade the item. Is this a bug? :eek:
  • jamiek81jamiek81 Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    You do not need to be level 15 to upgrade, just 15 to create superior parts.

    I wish they kept the dilithium store for the gear, i hate crafting, i hate it THAT much, i would nuke its entire homeworld if i knew where it was....hence why i loved the whole store where you could buy the gear with dilithium, but sadly, they replaced it with this sad excuse of an upgrade system.

    I honestly just hate the whole upgrade system, its just TRIBBLE, but thats just my opinion.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I tried to upgrade my ships shields, but instead of upgrading them, the system took my dilithium and materials but not upgrade the item. Is this a bug? :eek:
    did the top bar get to 100%? If nto you need to add more tech points (IE another upgrade kit)
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  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Hmph. Just tried upgrading my Adapted MACO armour, and the upgrade works fine... except I no longer have the set bonus for the three Adapted MACO pieces.

    Since the devs specifically said this sort of thing wouldn't happen - that you could have a Very Rare Mk XII and an Ultra Rare Mk XIII and a Gold Mk XIV, and you would still get the set bonus for having all three bits - I am, not to put too fine a point on it, miffed. Distinctly miffed. Verging on narked.

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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    did the top bar get to 100%? If nto you need to add more tech points (IE another upgrade kit)

    It's important to check the upgrade result before beginning.

    For example my fed upgraded her borg shields fine but the Klingon version has no change in stats so I guess we must wait and hope for a fix. There are many items like this.
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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I tried to upgrade my ships shields, but instead of upgrading them, the system took my dilithium and materials but not upgrade the item. Is this a bug? :eek:

    Also, were the shields at Mk XIII? If so, the only upgrade from there is rarity and only up to Ultra Rare for now. A rarity upgrade isn't automatic.
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  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Just tried to claim the new tokens on a Level 10, which had only just hit L10 that morning.

    Shelby said Hi and resolved mission, but no tokens were given.

    Maybe it was because I tried to claim the tokens before visiting Quinn?
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Quick question how long does it take for a average upgrade des it take 1 hour or can it take 20 hours as if I upgrade my main gear will it take a long time or a few minutes
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    robeasom wrote: »
    Quick question how long does it take for a average upgrade des it take 1 hour or can it take 20 hours as if I upgrade my main gear will it take a long time or a few minutes

    Level 13 weapons and some other stuff takes about 3.5 hours.

    Other consoles are more like 1.5
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dave18193 wrote: »
    Just tried to claim the new tokens on a Level 10, which had only just hit L10 that morning.

    Shelby said Hi and resolved mission, but no tokens were given.

    Maybe it was because I tried to claim the tokens before visiting Quinn?

    This happened to me last night with my new Fed science captain. I had already finished the promotion mission and was "fully" level 10.

    The mission text had something about "mission accepted when ineligible", maybe because it was added automatically as soon as I created the character.

    I guess we need to put in tickets with support? Has anyone already done that and gotten their missing upgrades?
  • clannmacclannmac Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The problem I am having is that in both cases - between two different characters - wherein I have upgraded my cannon weapons consoles (prefire chambers) to MK XIII, they have suddenly become unusable to each toon. The message reads "you do not possess the minimum qualifications for this item," or something to that effect.

    Ummm...hello? Was this not the point - to be able to upgrade to MK XIII gear, or as best we can, PRIOR to the DR release? And, what ARE the minimum qualifications? As far as I was aware from all of these "Operations Reports" and blogs, you only have to BE level 50 to gear up to MK XIV and to possess "Epic"-quality gear (i.e. from the Lobi store, etc.) - nothing I have read says anything about being level '51+' to own MK XIII and higher gear!!

    So...what gives? Right now, I have two toons with MK XIII consoles that are unusable/un-slottable, so I have had to buy lower-level replacements from the EX to operate at max efficiency...

    This DOES have to be a glitch, right?
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  • sorcapprenticesorcapprentice Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I went to upgrade what I think is the coolest looking weapon, and found that it did not have the option: The Federation Type 3 Phaser Rifle.

    Is there any chance that you can correct this so that the rifle can be upgraded?
    I love the retro look to this gun, and always make sure that one of my Bridge Officers carry it on away missions.
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