Can't afford the advertised package(stupid unemployment....still....), but will be THROWING money at them(as soon as I can scare up the funds) for the Fed Scryer Sci ship!
Suppose I should count myself fortunate that I'll likely only have to be paying to upgrade one T5 ship as well, across all 5 of my characters, my Fleet Nebula...and since I avoid PvP like the plague, that's not even a factor for me...looking forward to this!
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Pretty soon we won't even need to bother fighting anything. We'd just turn up for a mission and the NPC's themselves will think 'sod that' and wave white flags.
I doubt any new content coming up would be tough enough to last more than mere seconds against ships like that. All they do is convince me even more to stick to my standard T5.
2030 - "We are proud to announce the new T10 ships that allow full play emersion compatible with your VR device now you can walk the hallways of your ship or sit in the captains chair and command it from there"
2030 - "We are proud to announce the new T10 ships that allow full play emersion compatible with your VR device now you can walk the hallways of your ship or sit in the captains chair and command it from there"
Pretty soon we won't even need to bother fighting anything. We'd just turn up for a mission and the NPC's themselves will think 'sod that' and wave white flags.
I doubt any new content coming up would be tough enough to last more than mere seconds against ships like that. All they do is convince me even more to stick to my standard T5.
Try Borg disconnected on advance man then you will tell another story
The Lieutenant Science/Intelliigence slot becomes a Lieutenant Commander slot.
Regarding the Qib Intelligence Battlecruiser and Faeht Intelligence Warbird, English blog states they can cloak even while in combat, while the French blog states they can only cloak while not in combat.
By the way, for the translation team : when using the word 'intelligence' in a military/spy context (which seems to be the case here), it translates to 'renseignement'. Otherwise it refers to the intellect.
I believe is was in an interview or podcast in which Geko stated that they'd fixed power creep. But all they seemed to have done is strap an Acme rocket to it, lit the touch paper and run like hell.
A level cap increase always adds powers to the players, but it also adds powers to the NPCs, since they also get more levels.
So the difference is that this time:
1) The NPCs get to level up, too. That means they can change the power levels of NPCs to fit with the new power levels players can achieve.
2) The old Elite difficulty will be called "Advanced" and there is a new "Elite" difficulty.
It can only really be power creep if player characters get more power, but the NPCs don't. Which is what we had the past few years. This time, the NPCs also get some more power.
Whether it will be enough... We'll see. Maybe the NPCs will actually grow to little in strength.Maybe too much. Maybe just right.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
After achieving level 5 in your Scryer Intel Science Vessels Starship Mastery, you will unlock the Emitter Synergy starship trait. While this trait is slotted, each time you use a Tactical or Intelligence bridge officer ability you gain a small bonus to both Exotic Damage and Shield Healing. This bonus stacks up to 3 times.
At a time when exotic damage is already going through the roof...this is just what we didn't need.
Scryer with too much engineering station, i would be happy with lt.cmdr. universal, but this is really bad :S
1 lt TAC
1 lt.comm ENG
1 lt.comm ENG (??? beter if used uni)
1 lt.comm SCI
1 comm SCI
1 ens UNI
3 eng, 5 sci 2 tac
BAAAAD STATION AND CONSOLE MOD.....
I thought something bout 2 eng, 5sci and 3 tac because of extra turn rate but this is bad. I wont buy it, my tac vesta is better even now with 2,4,4 and 2 universal stations.
Dev's explain... if these T6 ships gonna have Fleet Versions in the future, what does this means for T5-U ships?
Does it means the older Cryptic Design and IP Ships will have their own Advanced Fleet versions thats comparable to Fleet T6 Ships or will it be a big F U to these Older Design Ships?
Heh, I'll save it until the masses have cried NERF! :P
Trust me, it'll either come out insanely broken, or if that isn't the case anyone with any idea what they're doing will facerole it in a day, because if they're going by the usual standard of the player base, I'm not expecting much of an improvement...
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I no longer do any Bug Hunting work for Cryptic. I may resume if a serious attempt to fix the game is made.
Scryer with too much engineering station, i would be happy with lt.cmdr. universal, but this is really bad :S
1 lt TAC
1 lt.comm ENG
1 lt.comm ENG (??? beter if used uni)
1 lt.comm SCI
1 comm SCI
1 ens UNI
3 eng, 5 sci 2 tac
BAAAAD STATION AND CONSOLE MOD.....
I thought something bout 2 eng, 5sci and 3 tac because of extra turn rate but this is bad. I wont buy it, my tac vesta is better even now with 2,4,4 and 2 universal stations.
EDIT: DPS wise this ship is TRIBBLE.
The second LT Cmdr station is a duplicate typo of the first. It will probably be fixed soon.
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Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
T6 ships are going to cost around $30-$35.
T5-Upgrades will cost around $10-$15.
What are you basing this on? No pricing has been announced for the T6 ships, apart from the pre-order pack. According to the Q&A, T5 upgrades will probably be $5-$10.
- The ships are visually unappealing, to the extremes.
- On top of that, they don't even have the flexibility of universal boff slots which current top-tier ships have. These "intel" slots can only take intel or a fixed class (eng, sci, tac). That's a step BACKWARDS from what we already have.
- You basically renamed beam target: subsystem and gave it to all craft
- You create a "gather intel" mechanic which is essentially a copy of sensor analysis or a number of other things in the game.
- The big whoop about consoles is they're all recycled from existing things. Phaser lance? Gal-X. Struc. Integ. siphon? Minor variation of Valdore console, only healing hull instead of shields. Sensor probe swarm? FBP, EWP, Photonic shockwave, you name it, it's already there. You just changed the visuals to be dots instead of plumes of plasma. Weapon systems siphon? Plasmonic Leech, yo. You just made it less effective and only stacks 3x.
- starship traits? Really? Seems to be mostly recycled stuff. Includingi advanced firing. I mean, come on! It's basically just a [thrust] proc we already see on crafted items. Tactical retreat: seen on NPCs already. Basically a JH ground set shroud proc for ships.
It seems almost every feature of these ships is a step backwards in functionality, flexibility, and overall enjoyability. For the astounding price tied to these ships, I simply must ask....
What the heck have you been doing this entire time? Because it doesn't seem to be "coming up with anything new" -- and yes I'm being quite harsh right now. It's needed at the moment. Cryptic, you need a reality check as badly as George Lucas did while writing The Phantom Menace. You're ignoring the world around you and marching on stoically, determined to prove the world wrong. Then you hold it against the world when it doesn't agree with what you've done.
Dev's explain... if these T6 ships gonna have Fleet Versions in the future, what does this means for T5-U ships?
Does it means the older Cryptic Design and IP Ships will have their own Advanced Fleet versions thats comparable to Fleet T6 Ships or will it be a big F U to these Older Design Ships?
It means don't buy Tier 5 Upgrades to me, really, unless there is another thing we can do to make our Tier 5 ships real Tier 6 ships.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
What are you basing this on? No pricing has been announced for the T6 ships, apart from the pre-order pack. According to the Q&A, T5 upgrades will probably be $5-$10.
Oh, easy...
T5 C-store Ships = $25
T5.5 Fleet Store Ships = +$5 - $30 total + fleet credits (with the purchase of a T5 counterpart) (1 fleet module @ $5)
T5.5 Fleet Store Ships = $20 + fleet credits (without the purchase of a T5 counterpart) (4 fleet modules @ $5 = $20)
T5.7 Fleet Store Ships = $25 + fleet credits (T5.5 Fleet Store Ships that require 5 modules) (5 fleet modules @ $5 = $25)
WHICH LEADS ME TO TO FOLLOWING PREDICTIONS
T5-Upgrade - C-Store = +$10 - $35 total (with the purchase of a T5 ship)
T5-Upgrade - Fleet Store = +$5 - $25 total + fleet credits (with the purchase of a T5 fleet ship)
T6 C-Store Ship = $30-$40
Its going to be expensive.
In order to upgrade a basic T5 ship to a T5-U ship, you will have to jump over T5.5 fleet ships. So, it will cost more to upgrade basic T5 ships.
No disrespect meant to you, but I have been on gaming forums for 16 years now and I put no trust into people's memories or interpretations of what they think they heard. I prefer to read or hear them for myself.
its starts about 1:47:00 into the video, in which Geko personally states that "The Devs are aware of it and Geko says it will be a Non-Issue "soon". Now I'm not saying that they would fix it with this expansion but it certainly doesn't help it.
Just reading though the comments on this thread, the roll-out of explanations on this expansion has not gone well. I've seen several comments on this topic stating that Fleet Tier 6 will have 12 consoles, really just 11 like Fleet T5U since Tier 6 also starts at 10. And that's just one example. We are certainly not off to a smooth start with the lack of clarity and misinformation I am seeing. Hoping it's going over better with the folks who do not read the forums.
From what I can gather from all of this, the PVP crowd is in for a shakeup, but most players will upgrade to T5U to keep their favorite ship(s), or not, perhaps dabble with a T6 that strikes their fancy and continue to mostly breeze through PVE and grind for whatever shiny is next.
Looking like my wallet will stay pretty intact so far. I'm just feeling very meh about the Intel ships and officers. Adding new abilities to for the existing trinity of bridge officers would have perked my pointy ears up though. *fingers crossed*
The Fleet listing is part of the disclaimer IE: "This console is only useable on the Phantom Intel Escort and Fleet Phantom Intel Escort."
and the Q&A
Q: Will Fleet variants of the Intel ships be available at Delta Rising launch?
A: Fleet Intel starships will be released sometime after Delta Rising launch.
The Fleet listing is part of the disclaimer IE: "This console is only useable on the Phantom Intel Escort and Fleet Phantom Intel Escort."
If you read the very last page in the Q&A it says:
Q: Will Fleet variants of the Intel ships be available at Delta Rising launch?
A: Fleet Intel starships will be released sometime after Delta Rising launch.
Fleet ships will come later. This blog is about the C-store ships.
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Suppose I should count myself fortunate that I'll likely only have to be paying to upgrade one T5 ship as well, across all 5 of my characters, my Fleet Nebula...and since I avoid PvP like the plague, that's not even a factor for me...looking forward to this!
Forums - "But what about our T5 ships?
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
I doubt any new content coming up would be tough enough to last more than mere seconds against ships like that. All they do is convince me even more to stick to my standard T5.
LOL well said
Too funny man . Thumbs up
Try Borg disconnected on advance man
The Lieutenant Science/Intelliigence slot becomes a Lieutenant Commander slot.
Regarding the Qib Intelligence Battlecruiser and Faeht Intelligence Warbird, English blog states they can cloak even while in combat, while the French blog states they can only cloak while not in combat.
By the way, for the translation team : when using the word 'intelligence' in a military/spy context (which seems to be the case here), it translates to 'renseignement'. Otherwise it refers to the intellect.
So the difference is that this time:
1) The NPCs get to level up, too. That means they can change the power levels of NPCs to fit with the new power levels players can achieve.
2) The old Elite difficulty will be called "Advanced" and there is a new "Elite" difficulty.
It can only really be power creep if player characters get more power, but the NPCs don't. Which is what we had the past few years. This time, the NPCs also get some more power.
Whether it will be enough... We'll see. Maybe the NPCs will actually grow to little in strength.Maybe too much. Maybe just right.
At a time when exotic damage is already going through the roof...this is just what we didn't need.
Console Modifications: 2 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 5 Science"
Scryer with too much engineering station, i would be happy with lt.cmdr. universal, but this is really bad :S
1 lt TAC
1 lt.comm ENG
1 lt.comm ENG (??? beter if used uni)
1 lt.comm SCI
1 comm SCI
1 ens UNI
3 eng, 5 sci 2 tac
BAAAAD STATION AND CONSOLE MOD.....
I thought something bout 2 eng, 5sci and 3 tac because of extra turn rate but this is bad. I wont buy it, my tac vesta is better even now with 2,4,4 and 2 universal stations.
EDIT: DPS wise this ship is TRIBBLE.
Heh, I'll save it until the masses have cried NERF! :P
Does it means the older Cryptic Design and IP Ships will have their own Advanced Fleet versions thats comparable to Fleet T6 Ships or will it be a big F U to these Older Design Ships?
Trust me, it'll either come out insanely broken, or if that isn't the case anyone with any idea what they're doing will facerole it in a day, because if they're going by the usual standard of the player base, I'm not expecting much of an improvement...
The second LT Cmdr station is a duplicate typo of the first. It will probably be fixed soon.
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
What are you basing this on? No pricing has been announced for the T6 ships, apart from the pre-order pack. According to the Q&A, T5 upgrades will probably be $5-$10.
- The ships are visually unappealing, to the extremes.
- On top of that, they don't even have the flexibility of universal boff slots which current top-tier ships have. These "intel" slots can only take intel or a fixed class (eng, sci, tac). That's a step BACKWARDS from what we already have.
- You basically renamed beam target: subsystem and gave it to all craft
- You create a "gather intel" mechanic which is essentially a copy of sensor analysis or a number of other things in the game.
- The big whoop about consoles is they're all recycled from existing things. Phaser lance? Gal-X. Struc. Integ. siphon? Minor variation of Valdore console, only healing hull instead of shields. Sensor probe swarm? FBP, EWP, Photonic shockwave, you name it, it's already there. You just changed the visuals to be dots instead of plumes of plasma. Weapon systems siphon? Plasmonic Leech, yo. You just made it less effective and only stacks 3x.
- starship traits? Really? Seems to be mostly recycled stuff. Includingi advanced firing. I mean, come on! It's basically just a [thrust] proc we already see on crafted items. Tactical retreat: seen on NPCs already. Basically a JH ground set shroud proc for ships.
It seems almost every feature of these ships is a step backwards in functionality, flexibility, and overall enjoyability. For the astounding price tied to these ships, I simply must ask....
What the heck have you been doing this entire time? Because it doesn't seem to be "coming up with anything new" -- and yes I'm being quite harsh right now. It's needed at the moment. Cryptic, you need a reality check as badly as George Lucas did while writing The Phantom Menace. You're ignoring the world around you and marching on stoically, determined to prove the world wrong. Then you hold it against the world when it doesn't agree with what you've done.
It means don't buy Tier 5 Upgrades to me, really, unless there is another thing we can do to make our Tier 5 ships real Tier 6 ships.
They're cash only with the pre-buy (50% off), but will be in the c-store for zen..
Also what is the Fleet level needed to get this ship?
As a casual player I'm hoping it's Level 1 like the Fleet Patrol Escort Refit.
T5 C-store Ships = $25
T5.5 Fleet Store Ships = +$5 - $30 total + fleet credits
(with the purchase of a T5 counterpart)
(1 fleet module @ $5)
T5.5 Fleet Store Ships = $20 + fleet credits
(without the purchase of a T5 counterpart)
(4 fleet modules @ $5 = $20)
T5.7 Fleet Store Ships = $25 + fleet credits
(T5.5 Fleet Store Ships that require 5 modules)
(5 fleet modules @ $5 = $25)
WHICH LEADS ME TO TO FOLLOWING PREDICTIONS
T5-Upgrade - C-Store = +$10 - $35 total
(with the purchase of a T5 ship)
T5-Upgrade - Fleet Store = +$5 - $25 total + fleet credits
(with the purchase of a T5 fleet ship)
T6 C-Store Ship = $30-$40
Its going to be expensive.
In order to upgrade a basic T5 ship to a T5-U ship, you will have to jump over T5.5 fleet ships. So, it will cost more to upgrade basic T5 ships.
Real Tier 6 ships? Who wants Tier 6 ships? Thouse ships are already obsolete.. nuu.. you want FLEET Tier 6 ships.. lol
Tier 6 didnt even survive lounch, now is all about Tier 6.5 hahaha.. well done cryptic, bravo..
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These aren't fleet ships. These are C-store ships.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsw_GYP8Ok
its starts about 1:47:00 into the video, in which Geko personally states that "The Devs are aware of it and Geko says it will be a Non-Issue "soon". Now I'm not saying that they would fix it with this expansion but it certainly doesn't help it.
From what I can gather from all of this, the PVP crowd is in for a shakeup, but most players will upgrade to T5U to keep their favorite ship(s), or not, perhaps dabble with a T6 that strikes their fancy and continue to mostly breeze through PVE and grind for whatever shiny is next.
Looking like my wallet will stay pretty intact so far. I'm just feeling very meh about the Intel ships and officers. Adding new abilities to for the existing trinity of bridge officers would have perked my pointy ears up though. *fingers crossed*
And I wouldn't be surprised if the sci ship has SA plus these debuffs. Then you can add that AOE subnuke and a sci captain's subnuke beam.
It's funny how it goes from T5U is still good enough to T5U sucks with each blog they post.
The Fleet listing is part of the disclaimer IE: "This console is only useable on the Phantom Intel Escort and Fleet Phantom Intel Escort."
and the Q&A
Q: Will Fleet variants of the Intel ships be available at Delta Rising launch?
A: Fleet Intel starships will be released sometime after Delta Rising launch.
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www.divisionhispana.com
If you read the very last page in the Q&A it says:
Fleet ships will come later. This blog is about the C-store ships.
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