Cryptic for god sakes... you guys are so clueless I take pity on you and I really believe at this point that you can't help it. Look at that video!!!!
You guys need to turn over development of this game to your pvp players because we apparently know the physics, abilities, and everything else better than you do and we tell you this TRIBBLE before you even release it. You would still be in control of art and stuff, but you obviously don't know what you are doing.
Look at the video and tell me you knew what you were doing!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
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Cryptic for god sakes... you guys are so clueless I take pity on you and I really believe at this point that you can't help it. Look at that video!!!!
You guys need to turn over development of this game to your players because we apparently know the physics, abilities, and everything else better than you do and we tell you this TRIBBLE before you even release it. You would still be in control of art and stuff, but you obviously don't know what you are doing.
Look at the video and tell me you knew what you were doing!/!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
Now compare it with a video that Voporak made BEFORE this change. :P He's actually taking MORE time to kill things. :P (not that he takes long to kill anything, ever...)
LOL, that's funny. Normally when my FBP goes down that's when everyone dies... There's good FBP players, then there's expert FBP players. There's a way to keep FBP up for a full 50 seconds when used with a combination of consoles... There's even a way to FBP after FBP is subnuked or expired. Not telling anyone how, but there's only one ship in the game that can do it.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Now compare it with a video that Voporak made BEFORE this change. :P He's actually taking MORE time to kill things. :P (not that he takes long to kill anything, ever...)
Well actually, the video I made in Ker'rat really isn't comparable to any other I've made, since I'm testing BO mostly in arena style battles. Now, if I were to make one in a standard Cap'N'Hold...
LOL, that's funny. Normally when my FBP goes down that's when everyone dies... There's good FBP players, then there's expert FBP players. There's a way to keep FBP up for a full 50 seconds when used with a combination of consoles... There's even a way to FBP after FBP is subnuked or expired. Not telling anyone how, but there's only one ship in the game that can do it.
A log I saved long ago (no handles displayed) [3:14][Zone] Hiro: reprting u u damm hacking scrub
[3:14][Zone] Hiro: ur hacking
[3:14][Zone] Hiro: im reporting u
[3:14][Zone] Queen Scora: O_o
[3:15][Zone] Hiro: no way u can do fbp and then 10 secs later doi it again
[3:15][Zone] Queen Scora: What 10 seconds? LMAO.
[3:15][Zone] Hiro: then u do a fbp back to back
[3:15][Zone] Hiro: no way you can do that
[3:15][Zone] Hiro: ur exploiting
[3:15][Zone] Queen Scora: I dunno what you're talking about... :P :P
It's all legal. Surprised other players didn't figure it out yet. Watching vapers rage is fun. There's no possible way to vape me unless I'm AFK or busy. If you get lucky, you're dead also. Then my ship auto revives in 1 second... Life is good.
Looking at someone ranting on us is so much fun all the times lol.
To beat FBP big time get a Surveillance Vesta, spec for Particle Generators, load TBR3 and Omega 1, buff -> enjoy 10k shield penetrating kinetic damage per pulse. Hax.
About you being unkillable, I remember killing you once out of cloak from max health, you got revived, got killed another time out of cloak, then Ker'rat reset. Good fights
Tried BO on my escort and pretty much insta killed everyone....ofcourse I needed lots of skill to do it.
Its also canon for a 500meter ship to explode in 0.000001seconds...its in every show of the tv series.
This game is the type of game you name when you want to express how TRIBBLE can something get .
Ahh, great. The game is getting more like Babylon 5. Armor, Shields, and anything else doesn't mean anything. You just die from one focused beam hit. All that other B.S. don't matter. *clap clap clap*
I'm glad Trek is catching up now. Hopefully a single phaser array can destroy 40% of Earth's surface with one sweep. If not, Star Trek still has a long way to go... Keep going!
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
I built a pretty good science ship , it cost me about 10k Z, she worked well , nice to annoying and debuffing the enemies with her , the only weakness was critical strikes from vapers , with a good healer does not help when you destroyed in 1-3 sec, no counter . But it became so in 25 % of attacks. Now it becomes 100%. The ship is almost useless in PvE , because it is not about dps .
So I say, either you cancel auto critic at the BO , or you can return a Zens. If not , I will not buy any more Zen.
It's funny, I went to try one more match just to gauge the extent of the damage a few days in. I queued. And waited. And waited. And waited. After 30 minutes I got bored and disconnected. It appears the people are speaking.
Also, who would want to play vapers online.
I can not understand why developers are more and more trying to destroy pvp. After all, PvPers send quite a bit of money, right?
Look at the positive part. NX01 could severely damage an Elachi ship with an overload. Out of cloak, the Defiant from the show took only a few seconds to instakill a Jem'Hadar ship.
Look at the positive part. NX01 could severely damage an Elachi ship with an overload. Out of cloak, the Defiant from the show took only a few seconds to instakill a Jem'Hadar ship.
from the few c&h's i played lately it seems the game turned from faw-a2b, to a2b, into bo-online. every few seconds in fight with some more players u get to hear that "zipp". it's allaround .
and of course: on every scort on my main that can carry a bo i slotted it now. and added bo-doffs on builds that allow to. why not? where's the downside (xcept of altering a build a bit)? now there's even more room for toys since u no longer need any drain resists.... :mad:
do i like it? no! it's ridicoulous. a new topping every few month :mad:
A cruiser firing 8 beams at once? No.
BOPs flying and turning faster than an X-Wing fighter? No.
Fighting dinosaurs the size of a T-Rex? No.
Having a Breen, Jem'Hadar, Voth or Xindi Reptilian bridge crew? No.
I could go on and on.
This game is based loosely on STO. Far too loosely in my books. This game is so far from canon that it makes some canon things not really work. Like instakills.
Therefore, liking something just because it's canon doesn't make it good if it breaks the game.
How many hitpoints does your vessel have? Shield + Hull? What are its resistances?
What does hit points matter soph.
You think we all want to roam around in 60k hull idiot boats ?
This change limits the number of viable ships in pvp.
Science ships are hit hard by this change for pvp I don't recall ever seeing you flying a science ship of any sort so I am not sure you have any idea what your talking about.
Sci ships have low hull... only ships with less are bops. Of course they have cloak. The majority of them also have few engi boff slots and low engi console count.
If I was playing a vapor I would prioritize sci ships always every time. Partly because no one likes getting CCed... mainly though because I know thanks to this change I will likely one shot them out of cloak.
We are not all going to get in a stupid carrier and strap on 4-5 neut consoles, nor are we only going to pvp in vape setups... cause its boring.
As a user of multiple damage reflect abilities (FBP, Haywire, Nanoprobe Feedback, Nukara shield) I have to say, this BO update is like a little Christmas.
If only it hadn't arrived along with the truly terrible new doff UI.
You know, soph, there are ways that can enable a sci to survive. Out side of those ways a sci will die. This reduces the number of viable builds that can be used. This change has encouraged escorts to fly a very specific build. As a result, the variety of ships out in the wild is decreasing. This is NOT a good thing. We need the largest variety of viable build out there. The game can only benefit from diversity.
This BO change is great for a very select number of people and bad for everyone else. I respect the players who benefit from the change but realise that it's bad. The people who benefit and want the change to stay? That's the height of selfishness.
I strongly doubt that this is the case. Before the BO change, the all-DHC/turret escort was the king, and it would kill a sci ship just as fast, albeit with slightly different time-damage-distribution.
Right now, everybody is trying out BO, because it is the new shiney thing. But that is not ging to stay that way, because, just like you, everybody wants variety, even with escort builds.
As Hawk wrote, there will be other changes coming, too. And I bet people will then change their configuration so that they can use that newly changed ability, and we will see it all over the queues. And people will complain. And any wise STOer will observe and be entertained.
The all DHC / Turret builds are from a bygone era. They were king in 2012 / early 2013. BO became quite the norm towards the the second half of 2013 before i took my break back in March 2014. It was never a new shiny thing like you put it.
Please make sure, you get your history right before you say anything....
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
I am getting tired... I don't undestand if it's because I played sto for 2-3 years or because of the last patch... however pve is "fire 1-2 BO3 and everything is destroyed", pvp is "load as many buffs as you can and fire bo3"
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Cryptic for god sakes... you guys are so clueless I take pity on you and I really believe at this point that you can't help it. Look at that video!!!!
You guys need to turn over development of this game to your pvp players because we apparently know the physics, abilities, and everything else better than you do and we tell you this TRIBBLE before you even release it. You would still be in control of art and stuff, but you obviously don't know what you are doing.
Look at the video and tell me you knew what you were doing!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
uh yeah, if you aren't disabled before you can activate it...
I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
Well actually, the video I made in Ker'rat really isn't comparable to any other I've made, since I'm testing BO mostly in arena style battles. Now, if I were to make one in a standard Cap'N'Hold...
Looking at someone ranting on us is so much fun all the times lol.
To beat FBP big time get a Surveillance Vesta, spec for Particle Generators, load TBR3 and Omega 1, buff -> enjoy 10k shield penetrating kinetic damage per pulse. Hax.
About you being unkillable, I remember killing you once out of cloak from max health, you got revived, got killed another time out of cloak, then Ker'rat reset. Good fights
Its also canon for a 500meter ship to explode in 0.000001seconds...its in every show of the tv series.
This game is the type of game you name when you want to express how TRIBBLE can something get .
I'm glad Trek is catching up now. Hopefully a single phaser array can destroy 40% of Earth's surface with one sweep. If not, Star Trek still has a long way to go... Keep going!
So I say, either you cancel auto critic at the BO , or you can return a Zens. If not , I will not buy any more Zen.
I can not understand why developers are more and more trying to destroy pvp. After all, PvPers send quite a bit of money, right?
That's pretty positive in my book.
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and of course: on every scort on my main that can carry a bo i slotted it now. and added bo-doffs on builds that allow to. why not? where's the downside (xcept of altering a build a bit)? now there's even more room for toys since u no longer need any drain resists.... :mad:
do i like it? no! it's ridicoulous. a new topping every few month :mad:
Let's see what else in this game is canon.
A cruiser firing 8 beams at once? No.
BOPs flying and turning faster than an X-Wing fighter? No.
Fighting dinosaurs the size of a T-Rex? No.
Having a Breen, Jem'Hadar, Voth or Xindi Reptilian bridge crew? No.
I could go on and on.
This game is based loosely on STO. Far too loosely in my books. This game is so far from canon that it makes some canon things not really work. Like instakills.
Therefore, liking something just because it's canon doesn't make it good if it breaks the game.
You mean.....STO is something else?
What does hit points matter soph.
You think we all want to roam around in 60k hull idiot boats ?
This change limits the number of viable ships in pvp.
Science ships are hit hard by this change for pvp I don't recall ever seeing you flying a science ship of any sort so I am not sure you have any idea what your talking about.
Sci ships have low hull... only ships with less are bops. Of course they have cloak. The majority of them also have few engi boff slots and low engi console count.
If I was playing a vapor I would prioritize sci ships always every time. Partly because no one likes getting CCed... mainly though because I know thanks to this change I will likely one shot them out of cloak.
We are not all going to get in a stupid carrier and strap on 4-5 neut consoles, nor are we only going to pvp in vape setups... cause its boring.
If only it hadn't arrived along with the truly terrible new doff UI.
This BO change is great for a very select number of people and bad for everyone else. I respect the players who benefit from the change but realise that it's bad. The people who benefit and want the change to stay? That's the height of selfishness.
The all DHC / Turret builds are from a bygone era. They were king in 2012 / early 2013. BO became quite the norm towards the the second half of 2013 before i took my break back in March 2014. It was never a new shiny thing like you put it.
Please make sure, you get your history right before you say anything....
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
Certain? It was most who were worth their salt actually. And how does using it for almost a year equate to flavour of the month?