Yes, after you posted that I immediately posted on his facebook, called his cell phone, and sent him a telegram via Western Union. He told me you were a douchebag controlfreak that wouldn't let anyone play in a Pandas premade unless he were hand-picked by you and ran exactly the build that you told him to, all the while under the guise of there being no leader in the Pandas. Then he told me you ripped him off when he bought your account and that he wants his money back.
Go Go Trolltastic Mighty Morphin Basement ranger
I've responded to similar posts by you and as much as you want it to be true will not make it so. So no, it doesn't bother me to lose a PvP match in a videogame. And it's not like I haven't beat your A-team before (in my engineer no-less), after which the zone chat was filled with excuse after excuse from you guys.
We've never ever claimed to be invincible. Never.... Look at the results overall buddy. 1 instance out of context means squat!
I dunno. Who?
Post number 65? Dont even remember the lies your trying to weave?
Yeah, I guess it's just an amazing coincidence then, just like I assumed all along!
So you completely disregarded antoniosalieri's post?
Again, you're just making assumptions. NvC imploded from the inside and had nothing to do with HoBOs. Shift was the leader in NvC that represented the interests of the premade tourney team within a much larger fleet. After he left for personal reasons it 1) broke up our team and 2) left us without any leadership representation and the other leaders made it quite clear they didn't give a TRIBBLE about us. Nothing to do with HoBOs.
So nothing at all related to Zelda?
No, it was aimed at active Pandas, but of course you felt it was directed at you since you're the lead...err I mean organiz...err I mean all Pandas are equal and are part of the super-democratic all-voices heard and all opinions-considered Utopian fleet known as the Sad Pandas!
In you style of response, all i see is blah, blah blah. You have not responded at all to any of those statements.
also, I sent you a message in game, guess you didn't get it, but of all the old guard Pandas, Naz is the least likely to turn down a fight he thinks he might lose. oh, and about that match not happening. it went down like I told you, but Naz had nothing to do with it.
Forgot to mention your last predictable move - Get personal to nuke thread when you are completely and utterly verbally out manoeuvred by a guy who has English as his 4th language.
also, I sent you a message in game, guess you didn't get it, but of all the old guard Pandas, Naz is the least likely to turn down a fight he thinks he might lose. oh, and about that match not happening. it went down like I told you, but Naz had nothing to do with it.
I think you just blew your own legs off with a double barrel shotgun buddy.
also, I sent you a message in game, guess you didn't get it, but of all the old guard Pandas, Naz is the least likely to turn down a fight he thinks he might lose. oh, and about that match not happening. it went down like I told you, but Naz had nothing to do with it.
Ok, so it wasn't Naz. My mistake. It was some other old-guard(s) that said y'all can't fight against us. In the end it doesn't matter who it was. What matters is that it actually did happen and that it's completely pathetic for a "PvP" fleet to be so afraid of losing that they don't even allow their players to form a premade and fight against other premades...what a joke.
How do you like your saviors of the Federation now Starwrath?
Ok, so it wasn't Naz. My mistake. It was some other old-guard(s) that said y'all can't fight against us. In the end it doesn't matter who it was. What matters is that it actually did happen and that it's completely pathetic for a "PvP" fleet to be so afraid of losing that they don't even allow their players to form a premade and fight against other premades...what a joke.
How do you like your saviors of the Federation now Starwrath?
don't worry, our little side project will be ready to go soon
Ok, so it wasn't Naz. My mistake. It was some other old-guard(s) that said y'all can't fight against us. In the end it doesn't matter who it was. What matters is that it actually did happen and that it's completely pathetic for a "PvP" fleet to be so afraid of losing that they don't even allow their players to form a premade and fight against other premades...what a joke.
How do you like your saviors of the Federation now Starwrath?
Actually what really matters is it proves you were a liar all along. That matters the most. You basically lied through upteen pages of this thread accusing another person (me) of being a liar. Hypocrite the correct term here?
So what do you think now StarWrath?
PS, Sometime soon you might just find your PvP team wrecked....
Actually what really matters is it proves you were a liar all along. That matters the most. You basically lied through upteen pages of this thread accusing another person (me) of being a liar. Hypocrite the correct term here?
So what do you think now StarWrath?
PS, Sometime soon you might just find your PvP team wrecked....
Go go mighty morphin basement ranger.
I admitted I was mistaken and yet you're still a jackass. No surprise there. You want to harp on a small detail I was mistaken about, that's fine, but it still doesn't change that what I said did happen and now brandonfl has not only confirmed it, but also said to expect a fight with his "side project" soon, a side project that he was forced to create because the old-guard(s) within the Pandas were so scared that they might lose against us that they wouldn't even let them play. And when I say old-guard...these guys (or maybe it's just 1 person...I dunno) don't even play STO any more and yet they're making decisions about what their active members can and can't do. What kind of fleet makes their members join a different fleet just to PvP? Seriously, what is that?
I admitted I was mistaken and yet you're still a jackass. No surprise there. You want to harp on a small detail I was mistaken about, that's fine, but it still doesn't change that what I said did happen and now brandonfl has not only confirmed it, but also said to expect a fight with his "side project" soon, a side project that he was forced to create because the old-guard(s) within the Pandas were so scared that they might lose against us that they wouldn't even let them play. And when I say old-guard...these guys (or maybe it's just 1 person...I dunno) don't even play STO any more and yet they're making decisions about what their active members can and can't do. What kind of fleet makes their members join a different fleet just to PvP? Seriously, what is that?
I think I already properly explained it... even though we in no way owe you an explanation.
There is no one I am aware of in Pandas that has ever said don't fight people. There is plenty of proud pandas that have said don't go running silly team builds in serious matches. Regardless if someone said anything or someone misinterpreted something that was said is not the point. The point is the Panda fleet ALWAYS invited by committee. No one ever joined pandas with out the ENTIRE fleet membership being asked there opinion on membership for said member.
As I explained to you earlier in the thread. There are fewer members then you seem to think still active. So in order to form a proper team it is going to require picking up some outside members. (ideally anyway) Now I guess we could ask a bunch of people that don't play anymore what they think of someone they have likely never met in STO and rebuild a Panda fleet where the people voting on memberships are all absent. Or we change the way pandas has always worked which seems silly to most of us as well. There is also the possibility that at some point the majority of the Pandas you know and love will return on a more frequent basis. The possibility of new pandas not knowing or worse not getting along with our old friends is a possibility I don't think we would want to deal with.
Bottom line disregard anything you think you have heard my friend. When you have a fleet that really doesn't have a specific leader... and has chosen to conduct itself as a true democracy. It means that sometimes things get crossed here and there between FRIENDS and members of the group. I don't think there is anyone that isn't on the page with what is going on with starting side fleets right now. It simply makes more sense while the majority of the fleets VOTERS are away. I say away because I doubt they are all gone forever... Trek pulls us all back in at some point as hard as we have all tried to escape.
I think I already properly explained it... even though we in no way owe you an explanation.
There is no one I am aware of in Pandas that has ever said don't fight people. There is plenty of proud pandas that have said don't go running silly team builds in serious matches. Regardless if someone said anything or someone misinterpreted something that was said is not the point. The point is the Panda fleet ALWAYS invited by committee. No one ever joined pandas with out the ENTIRE fleet membership being asked there opinion on membership for said member.
As I explained to you earlier in the thread. There are fewer members then you seem to think still active. So in order to form a proper team it is going to require picking up some outside members. (ideally anyway) Now I guess we could ask a bunch of people that don't play anymore what they think of someone they have likely never met in STO and rebuild a Panda fleet where the people voting on memberships are all absent. Or we change the way pandas has always worked which seems silly to most of us as well. There is also the possibility that at some point the majority of the Pandas you know and love will return on a more frequent basis. The possibility of new pandas not knowing or worse not getting along with our old friends is a possibility I don't think we would want to deal with.
Bottom line disregard anything you think you have heard my friend. When you have a fleet that really doesn't have a specific leader... and has chosen to conduct itself as a true democracy. It means that sometimes things get crossed here and there between FRIENDS and members of the group. I don't think there is anyone that isn't on the page with what is going on with starting side fleets right now. It simply makes more sense while the majority of the fleets VOTERS are away. I say away because I doubt they are all gone forever... Trek pulls us all back in at some point as hard as we have all tried to escape.
Your other post was a perfect explanation to the situation but it seemed like Devolved one didn't read past the first part. Even if he did I'm sure he wouldn't understand considering how "Devolved" he appears to be.
Stopped watching when I heard Katy Perry. Total fail.
How th hell did i miss that?? Thanks for pointing it out. Music should be more like this. What you reckon?
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How does it feel? It doesnt feel at all. Let me ask and quote Google> apathy, equanimity, indifference, insensibility, listlessness, phlegm.
Funny you should use those words - Pretty much what all the Pandas felt about you in the end. No love lost there then mate!
Shame you couldn't use Google to speak for you on Teamspeak because all we usually heard was something resembling sounds which my 1.5 year old daughter makes.
Well, its even worse when u get shut on forums by a non english speaker. I guess my professors didnt do their jobs. Or maybe i didn't want to by new mic. Who cares.
[10:49] [Combat (Self)] Your Proton Barrage deals 96581 (43411) Proton(Critical) to Seto.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
Well, its even worse when u get shut on forums by a non english speaker. I guess my professors didnt do their jobs. Or maybe i didn't want to by new mic. Who cares.
Really, where? Did I mention to you that English is my 4th language? Must have missed the memo on being "shut". All I see is devolved hanging himself at every turn.
I think you need to refine your google search criteria a bit more buddy. Maybe try a different search engine if google is letting you down? I personally think its user error
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
God I missed the forum pew pew. Not had this much fun in STO for a long time. Forget how much fun it is to bait people verbally and make them look silly afterwards.
Thank you Askray for letting this go on as long as it did. Hi five
Lesson for the day, always come prepared for any battle you commit to. Be it STO PvP, forum PvP or any other form of battle.
That's it folks for this season's edition of forum PvP titled "Evolved or Devolved - Definitely the latter"
Starring:
Skurf (The guy who hung himself at every turn)
Ivanspamtheterrible (the other guy whose easily bated)
Credits to Starfleet Dental - Always fighting the decay in STO (Keep up the good fight guys)
Sad Panda memorial archive - Providing footage to remind Ivanspamtheterrible
Lesson for the day: Pandas are a bunch of chumps that are afraid to fight us under their own tag for fear of losing, proven through admission of brandonfl in this thread, even though it was being adamantly and falsely denied by all Pandas in this and other threads. Anything else you say or excuses as to why the active members of Pandas weren't allowed to fight us is all static-noise because nothing can ever come close to being as pathetic as your fleet is right now.
Lesson for the day: Pandas are a bunch of chumps that are afraid to fight us under their own tag for fear of losing, proven through admission of brandonfl in this thread, even though it was being adamantly and falsely denied by all Pandas in this and other threads. Anything else you say or excuses as to why the active members of Pandas weren't allowed to fight us is all static-noise because nothing can ever come close to being as pathetic as your fleet is right now.
Put your team together and let's do it then. We have beat every fleet worth beating in this game multiple times over without losing once in private matches or in the queues.
Extract from your post #35. Not even the Pandas, TSI, QEW have ever claimed this. And you say I'm.........
Really? Without losing once in private matches? You've missed all the YouTube clips ever posted of HOBO's loosing, warping etc etc? How did I miss this statement? Want to see pathetic in its purest form? Read your own statements again pussycat.
I heard Zelda is seeing ghosts everywhere right now. Lock down / kicking, etc etc. Look at your own fleet first before you talk chump. I guess lesson not learnt.... I think tooth decay spread to Zelda's head. He really needs your help. Wait, you can also get Ivanspamtheterrible to help and make a revised version of the three stooges....lol yuckyuck
You play Warhammer 40k much? Cos your last statement sounded so much like "Your truth pales in comparison to my God emporar Zelda". I think he's trying to fashion himself as God Emperor in Star Citizen. Even ripped the logos off in the process. Going off topic here. Maybe story for next time.....
Really? Without losing once in private matches? You've missed all the YouTube clips ever posted of HOBO's loosing, warping etc etc? How did I miss this statement? Want to see pathetic in its purest form? Read your own statements again pussycat.
Obviously that statement is time-frame related. It's like I have to spell out everything for you. I'm not sure what happened while I was on my last break, but when I came back there was a HoBOs team waiting for me and we have dominated everything since then. And no, it's not because of me, I just happen to fall into a really good situation with a really good team.
That video Ivan posted where we beat you I didn't even remember. So with that match and the other one that I do remember, that makes me 2-0 as a HoBO against Pandas, and that's when I was just learning how to play. But yeah I saw the videos you posted and I'm not in any of them, however Cryox is in them and he's a horrible premade PvP'er (decent at Ker'rat and pugging) who was kicked out of the fleet for other reasons. So any time you faced HoBOs with him on the the team you already had an advantage- he didn't listen to chat-calls, wouldn't get on ts, ran every time he got targeted, etc.
But let's not detract from the theme of this thread: Pandas are cowards and won't even let their own current active members form a premade to fight against us. I just can not get over how sad this is. It's almost unbelievable, except it's actually true!
Why is it so important which fleet someone is in? Who cares if the opposing team is called pandas, grizzlies or vegemite-loving koalas?
The only reason that I can imagine to get so upset about the fleet name of an opposing group is a desire for bragging rights ("We beat a full xyz premade!"); otherwise it shouldn't matter what they are called as long as it is a good fight.
But let's not detract from the theme of this thread: Pandas are cowards and won't even let their own current active members form a premade to fight against us. I just can not get over how sad this is. It's almost unbelievable, except it's actually true!
Why is it so important which fleet someone is in? Who cares if the opposing team is called pandas, grizzlies or vegemite-loving koalas?
The only reason that I can imagine to get so upset about the fleet name of an opposing group is a desire for bragging rights ("We beat a full xyz premade!"); otherwise it shouldn't matter what they are called as long as it is a good fight.
I think you have about summed it up Mancom. We have explained it to him more then a few times at this point.
Pandas is a museum fleet at the moment. We (mostly not me but still) got the fleet to T5. The fleet name and base is sitting there waiting for more of our friends to return.
There is NOT enough active pandas playing the game to form a premade at this point. Still there are a few active pandas that would for sure like to put together a 5 man premade again. Issue is they don't have enough current pandas to really do that in an effective way. So yes the fleet has decided its best to do a side project and include some friends. (I explained the Panda recruitment procedure, the community knows that is how Pandas has always operated.) Adding new members with so many core players on hiatus is an issue. So you can either fight a team consisting of 2-3 pandas and 2-3 other guys... or they can form a new team and get shirts printed. What do you care ?
No amount of name calling is going to make us divide like ameba. If its PvP he wants it sounds like there is a project in the works to bring another quality team to the game. (from what I hear it sounds like the quality of this new team will be far more then you can handle and I predict they will get bored and retire on top as well). lol
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In you style of response, all i see is blah, blah blah. You have not responded at all to any of those statements.
All i see is you using sarcasm to do this to all my statements...
Never said it was because of me.
@DevolvedOne
Nah, I'd need MT Hax Tools to move that fast.
@DevolvedOne
now you've killed the thread
also, I sent you a message in game, guess you didn't get it, but of all the old guard Pandas, Naz is the least likely to turn down a fight he thinks he might lose. oh, and about that match not happening. it went down like I told you, but Naz had nothing to do with it.
Forgot to mention your last predictable move - Get personal to nuke thread when you are completely and utterly verbally out manoeuvred by a guy who has English as his 4th language.
I think you just blew your own legs off with a double barrel shotgun buddy.
Now whose the liar?
Go go mighty morphin basement ranger.....
Ok, so it wasn't Naz. My mistake. It was some other old-guard(s) that said y'all can't fight against us. In the end it doesn't matter who it was. What matters is that it actually did happen and that it's completely pathetic for a "PvP" fleet to be so afraid of losing that they don't even allow their players to form a premade and fight against other premades...what a joke.
How do you like your saviors of the Federation now Starwrath?
@DevolvedOne
don't worry, our little side project will be ready to go soon
Actually what really matters is it proves you were a liar all along. That matters the most. You basically lied through upteen pages of this thread accusing another person (me) of being a liar. Hypocrite the correct term here?
So what do you think now StarWrath?
PS, Sometime soon you might just find your PvP team wrecked....
Go go mighty morphin basement ranger.
I admitted I was mistaken and yet you're still a jackass. No surprise there. You want to harp on a small detail I was mistaken about, that's fine, but it still doesn't change that what I said did happen and now brandonfl has not only confirmed it, but also said to expect a fight with his "side project" soon, a side project that he was forced to create because the old-guard(s) within the Pandas were so scared that they might lose against us that they wouldn't even let them play. And when I say old-guard...these guys (or maybe it's just 1 person...I dunno) don't even play STO any more and yet they're making decisions about what their active members can and can't do. What kind of fleet makes their members join a different fleet just to PvP? Seriously, what is that?
@DevolvedOne
I think I already properly explained it... even though we in no way owe you an explanation.
There is no one I am aware of in Pandas that has ever said don't fight people. There is plenty of proud pandas that have said don't go running silly team builds in serious matches. Regardless if someone said anything or someone misinterpreted something that was said is not the point. The point is the Panda fleet ALWAYS invited by committee. No one ever joined pandas with out the ENTIRE fleet membership being asked there opinion on membership for said member.
As I explained to you earlier in the thread. There are fewer members then you seem to think still active. So in order to form a proper team it is going to require picking up some outside members. (ideally anyway) Now I guess we could ask a bunch of people that don't play anymore what they think of someone they have likely never met in STO and rebuild a Panda fleet where the people voting on memberships are all absent. Or we change the way pandas has always worked which seems silly to most of us as well. There is also the possibility that at some point the majority of the Pandas you know and love will return on a more frequent basis. The possibility of new pandas not knowing or worse not getting along with our old friends is a possibility I don't think we would want to deal with.
Bottom line disregard anything you think you have heard my friend. When you have a fleet that really doesn't have a specific leader... and has chosen to conduct itself as a true democracy. It means that sometimes things get crossed here and there between FRIENDS and members of the group. I don't think there is anyone that isn't on the page with what is going on with starting side fleets right now. It simply makes more sense while the majority of the fleets VOTERS are away. I say away because I doubt they are all gone forever... Trek pulls us all back in at some point as hard as we have all tried to escape.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
Stopped watching when I heard Katy Perry. Total fail.
Your other post was a perfect explanation to the situation but it seemed like Devolved one didn't read past the first part. Even if he did I'm sure he wouldn't understand considering how "Devolved" he appears to be.
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How th hell did i miss that?? Thanks for pointing it out. Music should be more like this. What you reckon?
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Was waiting for that one:
wanna see my collection?
One - Played that one whilst feeding my daughter AND changing her diaper... That was challenging....
And a two - That was fun. tried to impersonate some hosts...
And a three.... - Fun memories
And a... Want me to carry on? That was just the first three i found in our archives.
How does it feel to be the first Panda to be kicked out? <
Now thats Tral lal laaaaalll.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
Funny you should use those words - Pretty much what all the Pandas felt about you in the end. No love lost there then mate!
Shame you couldn't use Google to speak for you on Teamspeak because all we usually heard was something resembling sounds which my 1.5 year old daughter makes.
See if google has a response for that.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
Really, where? Did I mention to you that English is my 4th language? Must have missed the memo on being "shut". All I see is devolved hanging himself at every turn.
I think you need to refine your google search criteria a bit more buddy. Maybe try a different search engine if google is letting you down? I personally think its user error
Primum have fun, deinde go for the win.
God I missed the forum pew pew. Not had this much fun in STO for a long time. Forget how much fun it is to bait people verbally and make them look silly afterwards.
Thank you Askray for letting this go on as long as it did. Hi five
Lesson for the day, always come prepared for any battle you commit to. Be it STO PvP, forum PvP or any other form of battle.
That's it folks for this season's edition of forum PvP titled "Evolved or Devolved - Definitely the latter"
Starring:
Skurf (The guy who hung himself at every turn)
Ivanspamtheterrible (the other guy whose easily bated)
Credits to Starfleet Dental - Always fighting the decay in STO (Keep up the good fight guys)
Sad Panda memorial archive - Providing footage to remind Ivanspamtheterrible
And always, thank you to you the audience.
Until next time ladies and gents, Ciao for now :P
@DevolvedOne
Is that a fact / truth just like this here: Extract from your post #35. Not even the Pandas, TSI, QEW have ever claimed this. And you say I'm.........
Really? Without losing once in private matches? You've missed all the YouTube clips ever posted of HOBO's loosing, warping etc etc? How did I miss this statement? Want to see pathetic in its purest form? Read your own statements again pussycat.
I heard Zelda is seeing ghosts everywhere right now. Lock down / kicking, etc etc. Look at your own fleet first before you talk chump. I guess lesson not learnt.... I think tooth decay spread to Zelda's head. He really needs your help. Wait, you can also get Ivanspamtheterrible to help and make a revised version of the three stooges....lol yuckyuck
You play Warhammer 40k much? Cos your last statement sounded so much like "Your truth pales in comparison to my God emporar Zelda". I think he's trying to fashion himself as God Emperor in Star Citizen. Even ripped the logos off in the process. Going off topic here. Maybe story for next time.....
Go go mighty morphing basement ranger.
That video Ivan posted where we beat you I didn't even remember. So with that match and the other one that I do remember, that makes me 2-0 as a HoBO against Pandas, and that's when I was just learning how to play. But yeah I saw the videos you posted and I'm not in any of them, however Cryox is in them and he's a horrible premade PvP'er (decent at Ker'rat and pugging) who was kicked out of the fleet for other reasons. So any time you faced HoBOs with him on the the team you already had an advantage- he didn't listen to chat-calls, wouldn't get on ts, ran every time he got targeted, etc.
But let's not detract from the theme of this thread: Pandas are cowards and won't even let their own current active members form a premade to fight against us. I just can not get over how sad this is. It's almost unbelievable, except it's actually true!
@DevolvedOne
The only reason that I can imagine to get so upset about the fleet name of an opposing group is a desire for bragging rights ("We beat a full xyz premade!"); otherwise it shouldn't matter what they are called as long as it is a good fight.
I think you have about summed it up Mancom. We have explained it to him more then a few times at this point.
Pandas is a museum fleet at the moment. We (mostly not me but still) got the fleet to T5. The fleet name and base is sitting there waiting for more of our friends to return.
There is NOT enough active pandas playing the game to form a premade at this point. Still there are a few active pandas that would for sure like to put together a 5 man premade again. Issue is they don't have enough current pandas to really do that in an effective way. So yes the fleet has decided its best to do a side project and include some friends. (I explained the Panda recruitment procedure, the community knows that is how Pandas has always operated.) Adding new members with so many core players on hiatus is an issue. So you can either fight a team consisting of 2-3 pandas and 2-3 other guys... or they can form a new team and get shirts printed. What do you care ?
No amount of name calling is going to make us divide like ameba. If its PvP he wants it sounds like there is a project in the works to bring another quality team to the game. (from what I hear it sounds like the quality of this new team will be far more then you can handle and I predict they will get bored and retire on top as well).