A lot of the replies here are some reasons why so many don't play klink. Yes, gameplay and content favors the FED side but everytime I review threads such as this, either they want more players or you want specific players. Even then, you always end up telling us all what you Don't have or end up arguing why another faction shouldn't have something.
I'm already seeing some reduced numbers on the FED side for queues, why the Hell would I want to play on another side that you guys are saying is dead... I'm sure full faction integration for all queues would help but some of you need to get off your horse and accept what you can. 13 pages in and I still can't tell if you want more to play klink or enjoy discouraging us. Geez
As I see things in game there is no incentive to play kdf in this moment.
For a new player it is better to play romulan now.
In time I think that the number of kdf players will continue to decrease.
"There already is a Borg faction, its called the Federation. They assimilate everyone else's technology and remove any biological or technical distinctiveness and add it to their own."
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
I think KDF are in a good place now. Throwing more stuff at the faction, like ships and costumes, would be welcome I am sure but it's not going to entice a player who simply does not want to play as a KDF.
That is the main reason KDF has always been and will always be a niche faction. Some don't like the overall character of KDF, some don't like the aesthetics. Most just want to play as Starfleet officers just like in the shows.
It certainly doesn't help when all the outspoken pro-KDF brigade flood every discussion on the forum with elitist nonsense every single time a cloak or assimilator thread pops up.
Here's an idea. KDF be content with it's lot, and be happy that we're finally getting attention these days. Enjoy playing the faction you like and perhaps just that alone would be enough to convince others to try it out.
Here's an idea. KDF be content with it's lot, and be happy that we're finally getting attention these days. Enjoy playing the faction you like and perhaps just that alone would be enough to convince others to try it out.
I don't agree with you because playing a frustrating game it is not a solution. Everybody wants to enjoy playing a game.
"There already is a Borg faction, its called the Federation. They assimilate everyone else's technology and remove any biological or technical distinctiveness and add it to their own."
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
I just want normal queues.... waiting again what seems like ages on Defera for a third KDF team member... at least make defera cross-faction or something since it's against the borg as someone said earlier.
I thought about rolling a KDF character but then I realised that I've filled 16 slots and would need to pay for more. And I'll be damned if I'm going to pay more money for the game in the state that it's in.
I Shanghaied some local College students who were working on my yard. They are now locked in my basement and being forced to play KDF 16 hours per day. That is the best I can do to get more KDF players into the game.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I Shanghaied some local College students who were working on my yard. They are now locked in my basement and being forced to play KDF 16 hours per day. That is the best I can do to get more KDF players into the game.
Cool.
I had thought to spend a little start-up on a sweat shop-esque style facility in Thailand but was balked by child labor laws.:P
I just want normal queues.... waiting again what seems like ages on Defera for a third KDF team member... at least make defera cross-faction or something since it's against the borg as someone said earlier.
You complain about the KDF uniqueness being taken away as if cloak, carriers, etc ... but and here is the kicker, you ask for more ships but those ships happen to be "unique" as well, like science ships.
OK, I'm seriously thinking of drawing this out and posting links for some of you people, cause you don't seem to understand what can and what can't be considered unique.
Science ships are not and can't be unique to the Federation. You may wonder why? Because there is a frigin' Science Character Class availible to the KDF and RR factions as well, you can't make a ship class that ties directly to a character class availible for everyone a unique trademark of any faction, without a serious TROLOLOLOLOLOLO follwong.
If character classes were different between the factions and KDF and RR had something else where the Feds have "make a science character" option, then the science ships could be a Federation unique item.
If Raiders are "do not touch, KDF uniqueness" then what are the Federation uniqueness? I have seen complains about KDF ships having no attract fire command despite Flight Deck Cruisers having them so even the Federation Cruiser line that have all 4 Cruiser commands is something the KDF wants or at the very least what some KDF players want, whats left for the Federation to be unique about them?
You need to take this one to Cryptic, not me. If you followed any of my posts anywhere on the forum, you know by now that I don't have anything against the Federation having something unique on their ships or even a unique class of ships as long as it's made in line with the spirit of Starfleet and the Federation in Star Trek.
And I sincerely hope that when you saw the KDF complains about having no "attract fire", you noticed that for that 1 person asking for it there were 20 following replies by KDF players telling him to stop complaining and that it's not needed.
You cannot ask for having more ship variety at the expense of the other factors and in turn refuse to give away your faction own variety, its either one (everyone having the same ship types) or the other (each faction is "unique") and I am going to be fair on this, I seen same arguments coming from Federation players that wanted things like build-in Cloak (that we had at a certain point) or even something like Singularity abilities but I never really seen any Fed player going on about how Science ships are the Federation uniqueness (I admit that I did that once or twice as a joke) or how escorts are Federation uniqueness or anything is Federation uniqueness as inevitably some KDF player will rant about.
That's easy - a lot of Fed players on these boards don't care about faction uniqueness.
And they don't defend the science ships because probably most of the people realize that they can't be an unique item as I previously explained.
This getting beyond old, the same rants "KDF uniqueness" that bogs down to NOT wanting to share their designs, its very amusing to see how Cloak treads eventually get overrun by KDF players going on and on about it as pretty much everyone else had left the discussion, I say it irritates me that its impossible to discuss it without being taken over by KDF player ... heck there is even a hilarious thread started about Romulan Cloak not being superior to Klingon Cloak.
At the risk of sounding like I'm trolling you - If you want to "share and care" maybe try Hello Kitty Online?
This is Star Trek, here factions are different - they all need to preserve their strenghts and flaws. Diversity is the spice of life, evryone having everyting same is bland and boring.
If ... if you want more shipyard variety its not a good thing that at some point you go on about how certain ships should be KDF only because this reeks as wanting someone else toys and not wanting to share your own, if the way for KDF to have players is pretty much have all the toys and everyone else being restricted ... well, thats not exactly part of something I want to be part of, its just a bunch of people having everything and the other their scraps.
Show me where KDF players seriously gathered to ask for a Warbird type of ship? Or singularity abilities? What we always wanted is more ships from our own classes.
Yeah, you don't know what you're on about. You're just ranting for the sake of ranting.
KDF wanting everyone else's toys....LMAO a good one. I think blue and red is mixing a bit inside your head.
I Shanghaied some local College students who were working on my yard. They are now locked in my basement and being forced to play KDF 16 hours per day. That is the best I can do to get more KDF players into the game.
Well, at least you're keeping it in the spirit of the faction. lol :P
I do think that the KDF side deserves much more attention. KDF is a very fun faction to play, even the episodes are more attractive (due to fairly recent updates, except for those that are still copies of federation episodes).
When I started, KDF was only available to those who reached lvl 25 with a fed toon, therefore IMO KDF was more of a reward, looked upon as only new players did fed and more advaced players were on KDF. I guess that is what made me a KDF fan.
KDF is a unique group... IMO has more experienced players than the fed faction... LESS kids and trolls.. (noticed I said less)
So with all that said... sure bring on more players to the KDF side... as long as you're not a child or troll, otherwise please stay fed and I will see you in Ker'rat.... Hab SoSlI' Quch!
Starfleet has everything already, and you want more.
You are already the favored faction, not some victim.
The KDF had marauder missions ...........................Seriously the Feds have NOTHING that comes close to that
The Rommies havbe a base 7.5% crit chance advantage.............again seriously
Feds the Favored Faction ? ..........Dude have a reality check
Feds are the poorest faction and the most undergunned faction..Thats reality
Feds do have everyone beat at the tailor tho............................................
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Hell, I would be happy to simply see more actual Klingons. I am probably one of the very few who doesn't like being surrounded perpetually by half-naked Orions...
Hell, I would be happy to simply see more actual Klingons. I am probably one of the very few who doesn't like being surrounded perpetually by half-naked Orions...
Whats wrong with that............................................:P
Need a Pill ?
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Evidently.the forums.are.the only place left to.do faction versus faction pvp.
Woo Hoo! That means I can finally finish that Ker'rat mission without being attacked!
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
The KDF had marauder missions ...........................Seriously the Feds have NOTHING that comes close to that
The Rommies havbe a base 7.5% crit chance advantage.............again seriously
Feds the Favored Faction ? ..........Dude have a reality check
The KDF have marauding missions because it is a reflection of their society / culture. They are a warrior race. Why spend time developing ways to extract resources when you can plunder it from weaker races? Diplomacy is the tip of a blade or the barrel of a gun.
The Federation does not have maraudering missions because that goes against the point of the Federation's existence. Diplomacy is their primary tool. The Federation focuses on cooperation between races rather than exploitation. Therefore, having maraudering missions for the Federation make absolutely no sense and thus voids the argument for it.
As for the Romulan have a +7.5% critical chance advantage... I can't think of a logical reason for that. Therefore, that can be considered favoritism, unless I can figure out a logical reason why they should have it... perhaps it is due to their mastery of cloaking technology.
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A better reason for the Romulan's +7.5% could be related to the fact that they rely on cunning to exploit situations to their advantage.
I doubt there will be a Klingon faction after the 2nd Expansion. With the war being over, the next logical step will be to merge factions. This would solve empty factional queues, generally bring a lot of QOL improvements for all species and could provide a unified base of (cstore) monetization. So just have a bit more patience, KDF, and you'll be solved.
I doubt there will be a Klingon faction after the 2nd Expansion. With the war being over, the next logical step will be to merge factions. This would solve empty factional queues, generally bring a lot of QOL improvements for all species and could provide a unified base of (cstore) monetization. So just have a bit more patience, KDF, and you'll be solved.
That does not make sense unless the KDF joins the United Federation of Planets, or the KDF conquers the Federation.
Hell, I would be happy to simply see more actual Klingons. I am probably one of the very few who doesn't like being surrounded perpetually by half-naked Orions...
Well... I know that I personally just don't feel like playing as a Klingon. None of my red-side characters is a Klingon. And yeah, whenever I'm in first city, I see more non-Klingons than Klingons.
That does not make sense unless the KDF joins the United Federation of Planets, or the KDF conquers the Federation.
"Weakened by the Undine assault into their Quadrants, the looming Iconian threat, and whatever Ex2 holds as new threats, the major (playable) powers unite to face those common challenges together." New Ex2 superfaction to rule them all: Allies (of anti-Iconian War II). Coming in S10: Cardassia joins! ...
"Weakened by the Undine assault into their Quadrants, the looming Iconian threat, and whatever Ex2 holds as new threats, the major (playable) powers unite to face those common challenges together." New Ex2 superfaction to rule them all: Allies (of anti-Iconian War II). Coming in S10: Cardassia joins! ...
Woo Hoo! That means I can finally finish that Ker'rat mission without being attacked!
There's still the Swedes.. ehm Borg.
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I'm already seeing some reduced numbers on the FED side for queues, why the Hell would I want to play on another side that you guys are saying is dead... I'm sure full faction integration for all queues would help but some of you need to get off your horse and accept what you can. 13 pages in and I still can't tell if you want more to play klink or enjoy discouraging us. Geez
What pisses me off is the Devs, or ANY dev, can't take 2 minutes of his time and even chime in and respond to a thread like this.
UH OH you somehow managed to sneak outside ESD. Better at least pop in, respond, and let them know its being watch. Even if its a 2 word response.
Your Ramming Speed III deals 242658 (243540) Kinetic Damage (Critical) to you.
For a new player it is better to play romulan now.
In time I think that the number of kdf players will continue to decrease.
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
That is the main reason KDF has always been and will always be a niche faction. Some don't like the overall character of KDF, some don't like the aesthetics. Most just want to play as Starfleet officers just like in the shows.
It certainly doesn't help when all the outspoken pro-KDF brigade flood every discussion on the forum with elitist nonsense every single time a cloak or assimilator thread pops up.
Here's an idea. KDF be content with it's lot, and be happy that we're finally getting attention these days. Enjoy playing the faction you like and perhaps just that alone would be enough to convince others to try it out.
I don't agree with you because playing a frustrating game it is not a solution. Everybody wants to enjoy playing a game.
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Cool.
I had thought to spend a little start-up on a sweat shop-esque style facility in Thailand but was balked by child labor laws.:P
R.I.P
No reason why Defera could not be cross faction.
R.I.P
OK, I'm seriously thinking of drawing this out and posting links for some of you people, cause you don't seem to understand what can and what can't be considered unique.
Science ships are not and can't be unique to the Federation. You may wonder why? Because there is a frigin' Science Character Class availible to the KDF and RR factions as well, you can't make a ship class that ties directly to a character class availible for everyone a unique trademark of any faction, without a serious TROLOLOLOLOLOLO follwong.
If character classes were different between the factions and KDF and RR had something else where the Feds have "make a science character" option, then the science ships could be a Federation unique item.
You need to take this one to Cryptic, not me. If you followed any of my posts anywhere on the forum, you know by now that I don't have anything against the Federation having something unique on their ships or even a unique class of ships as long as it's made in line with the spirit of Starfleet and the Federation in Star Trek.
And I sincerely hope that when you saw the KDF complains about having no "attract fire", you noticed that for that 1 person asking for it there were 20 following replies by KDF players telling him to stop complaining and that it's not needed.
That's easy - a lot of Fed players on these boards don't care about faction uniqueness.
And they don't defend the science ships because probably most of the people realize that they can't be an unique item as I previously explained.
At the risk of sounding like I'm trolling you - If you want to "share and care" maybe try Hello Kitty Online?
This is Star Trek, here factions are different - they all need to preserve their strenghts and flaws. Diversity is the spice of life, evryone having everyting same is bland and boring.
Show me where KDF players seriously gathered to ask for a Warbird type of ship? Or singularity abilities? What we always wanted is more ships from our own classes.
Yeah, you don't know what you're on about. You're just ranting for the sake of ranting.
KDF wanting everyone else's toys....LMAO
Well, at least you're keeping it in the spirit of the faction. lol :P
When I started, KDF was only available to those who reached lvl 25 with a fed toon, therefore IMO KDF was more of a reward, looked upon as only new players did fed and more advaced players were on KDF. I guess that is what made me a KDF fan.
KDF is a unique group... IMO has more experienced players than the fed faction... LESS kids and trolls.. (noticed I said less)
So with all that said... sure bring on more players to the KDF side... as long as you're not a child or troll, otherwise please stay fed and I will see you in Ker'rat.... Hab SoSlI' Quch!
Fight, fight, fight, fight
If I could form a circle around this thread and chant this I would.
The KDF had marauder missions ...........................Seriously the Feds have NOTHING that comes close to that
The Rommies havbe a base 7.5% crit chance advantage.............again seriously
Feds the Favored Faction ? ..........Dude have a reality check
Feds are the poorest faction and the most undergunned faction..Thats reality
Feds do have everyone beat at the tailor tho............................................
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
No, no, no......you're doing it all wrong!!! :mad:
This is the way - rabble, rabble, rabble!!! :P
But I don't know what else to do shpoks!
Whats wrong with that............................................:P
Need a Pill ?
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
R.I.P
The KDF have marauding missions because it is a reflection of their society / culture. They are a warrior race. Why spend time developing ways to extract resources when you can plunder it from weaker races? Diplomacy is the tip of a blade or the barrel of a gun.
The Federation does not have maraudering missions because that goes against the point of the Federation's existence. Diplomacy is their primary tool. The Federation focuses on cooperation between races rather than exploitation. Therefore, having maraudering missions for the Federation make absolutely no sense and thus voids the argument for it.
As for the Romulan have a +7.5% critical chance advantage... I can't think of a logical reason for that. Therefore, that can be considered favoritism, unless I can figure out a logical reason why they should have it... perhaps it is due to their mastery of cloaking technology.
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A better reason for the Romulan's +7.5% could be related to the fact that they rely on cunning to exploit situations to their advantage.
Not if I.stop you! <pew pew pew>
R.I.P
That does not make sense unless the KDF joins the United Federation of Planets, or the KDF conquers the Federation.
My character Tsin'xing
And then - R.I.P. Star Trek Online.
There's still the Swedes.. ehm Borg.