Today I met a FBPer on Palisade in PvP, whole team started targeting him. He used FBP and suddenly everyone ceased fire. Yap, no shots, just surrounded by us.
FBP ended, heavy fire landed on him. He tried to RSP, we subnuked (he did not even had ST I guess) and brutally died. He hardly did something for his team, had weaksauce healing and offensive capabilities.
Sounds like his team was either MIA or this is yet another 5 to 1 ganking, not sure I'd want to brag about such "accomplishment" in the PvP forum.
Sounds like his team was either MIA or this is yet another 5 to 1 ganking, not sure I'd want to brag about such "accomplishment" in the PvP forum.
Let's say he got annoying in using double copy of FBP, so we first cleared a couple members of the enemy team, tanked the other two and switched to nuking him. As soon as his FBP ended I landed on him a fury of CRF, Alpha, Omega, FMM, TS and a TB2 to kill defense and got murdered in escape run. FBP in arena are hardly ever an asset because when the enemy is tired of your presence, you can be sure you're going to pop as soon as FBP wears off.
Today I met a FBPer on Palisade in PvP, whole team started targeting him. He used FBP and suddenly everyone ceased fire. Yap, no shots, just surrounded by us.
FBP ended, heavy fire landed on him. He tried to RSP, we subnuked (he did not even had ST I guess) and brutally died. He hardly did something for his team, had weaksauce healing and offensive capabilities.
LOL. Hahahahhaha, well what was that guy thinking? After the RSP get sub-nuked you must use Reflective Immunity Matrix , then Battle cloak out. Guess he didn't have the full Voth set. That was clearly a predictable move there. Also who flies into 5 players with no allies around? :eek:
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LOL. Hahahahhaha, well what was that guy thinking? After the RSP get sub-nuked you must use Reflective Immunity Matrix , then Battle cloak out. Guess he didn't have the full Voth set. That was clearly a predictable move there. Also who flies into 5 players with no allies around? :eek:
There used to be a team, they only were wiped out :P
And that same player on FBP after the match accused me of cloaking too often, I always escape a fight, I had a cowardish playstyle because I got kills that way lol
For some people is easy to talk when they don't have HE1 as only heal xD
I mean, seriously, why bother? Other than to be annoyingly difficult to kill, what purpose does an FBP-centric build serve?
I ask because I ran into such a joker today in a private queue match. I was lured in by his buddy who wanted to pit his Hirogen Hunter against mine. We went at it for a while, but when it was clear he wouldn't win, he threw in the towel and invited me to try his friend on for size.
His friend turned out to be an adapted battle cruiser captain with a nasty FBP ratio. After nearly killing myself on my first alpha pass, I proceeded to try to finesse my way around his defenses - a BO3 shot here, some CRF there - but it became clear to me that I could not do enough damage in the time available between his FBP cycles. So in the end I threw in my own towel and went to fetch a more suitable ship: My FAHCR.
Meeting up later, I had somewhat better success with the cruiser - I could tank at least some of his FBP damage, but given his size and hull strength, there was simply no way to wear him down quick enough to avoid the inevitable self-immolation.
Frustrating, to say the least, but here's the kicker: At no time was I ever in danger of being killed by *his* offense. In fact, his non-FBP DPS was almost non-existent. I actually tanked his APA3-fueled "onslaught" (if you could call it that) while nursing my ship back from a near suicide alpha strike a few seconds before. Basically, it was a joke - I could sit there all day and absorb his best from point blank range.
So, the question is: Given such a ship's complete lack of offensive potential, and its requirement that you shoot at it before it can actually damage you, what the heck is the point? I mean, in a team PvP setting, what is this dude's function? Fly to the center of the map and hope somebody's dumb enough to fire on him? Because, clearly, he's not going to contribute to many kills by throwing softballs.
Note: I'm excluding Cryox and his nasty FBP ship from this discussion because, unlike my fat fed-aligned battle cruiser friend, he actually has some DPS to add to the mix. But the dude I met was nothing but a giant porcupine of FAIL. And his tendency to hurl mocking insults throughout the match (an attempt at goading?) only added to his perceived jerkishness.
I guess I just don't see the point...
RCK
ok im the guy hes talking about btw (yay first post (dunno why it says i have 2 posts)....and sigh its to reply to a whiner, i was told to just ignore this post but i had to atleast inform everyone of the truth)
1. love how he didnt mention i owned him 3 times in a row (lol)
2. he used aux2batt with rsp3+rsp doff, so epic rsp spam every what 30 seconds or so ? (LOL) i had to adapt to that on the fly, beams alone didnt do enough damage in between his rsp spam and fbp worked VERY WELL (probably too well based on this thread)
3. i never said i was some top pvper....
4. he probably never been owned that hard in his life (why he felt the need to whine so hard in this post)
5. i have more builds than that fbp build.....(just incase u didnt realise it wasnt made for 5v5)
6. i never insulted him...i simply stated (more than once) if he is going to keep running away from me then might as well just warp out and not fight at all
7. whine some more....and cry me a river XD
8. peace out
Fbp sucks. Actually it is so damnedgood vs alpha strikers that not too long ago i reinvented my build entirely to abuse the one thing that fbp doesnt reflect(besides torps).
Proton is game ender against fbp tards. With a proper buff and a hit, the weak fbp player will get vaporized in one tap, with no splashback. That beign said, if the proton misses or doesnt do enough, the alpha bop will die almost guaranteed to fbp blowback.
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Fought a 2v1 vs jedis fbp rig (a bug and a bop vs palisade) We lost. Sure i got 4 glorious one tappers, but we lost in the end. WITH NO OTHER TARGETS TO PURSUE: we were boned up against a fast activated fbp that killed us after we had fired.
But id tell you all what i told jedi, ur TRIBBLE in an arena. Ill get my clean shot and vape u and the other players will not bite. So to me fbp may have its place in 1v1 but is over all a joke.
Fbp sucks. Actually it is so damnedgood vs alpha strikers that not too long ago i reinvented my build entirely to abuse the one thing that fbp doesnt reflect(besides torps).
Proton is game ender against fbp tards. With a proper buff and a hit, the weak fbp player will get vaporized in one tap, with no splashback. That beign said, if the proton misses or doesnt do enough, the alpha bop will die almost guaranteed to fbp blowback.
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Fought a 2v1 vs jedis fbp rig (a bug and a bop vs palisade) We lost. Sure i got 4 glorious one tappers, but we lost in the end. WITH NO OTHER TARGETS TO PURSUE: we were boned up against a fast activated fbp that killed us after we had fired.
But id tell you all what i told jedi, ur TRIBBLE in an arena. Ill get my clean shot and vape u and the other players will not bite. So to me fbp may have its place in 1v1 but is over all a joke.
2 types of Proton attacks are not only things that FBP doesn't reflect. Thalaron is third, but there are more. And FBPers always die first from it(and ofcourse cloaked ships if they are in blast zone)
And i already said many times that full FBP build is more harm then good to team.
I use single FBP on tactical dyson just to do damage while in defensive mode as well and it works fine, and ppl forget every time that i have it, so it's more of a mind game.
ON topic itself. I will trust Toppa on this one, because i know him. Thread starter did't mention any of those things.
But id tell you all what i told jedi, ur TRIBBLE in an arena. Ill get my clean shot and vape u and the other players will not bite. So to me fbp may have its place in 1v1 but is over all a joke.
And with two sentences, my good friend Minimax sums up the entire point of the thread.
A 1v1 troll build - that's all toppa's ship is good for. And with no offensive output (again, I tanked his best while healing completely from 6% hull), he's basically a giant porcupine in space. Ignore him and he's harmless, which is probably why he feels the need to hurl insults ("run away, TRIBBLE!") during his troll matches.
Once you realize that this is his *only* tactic - goading you into shooting at him and destroying yourself - you can either withdraw from the match, or do what I did: Park 2Km away from him and laugh as he tries to "harm" you with his "mighty" beam assault.
Glad you weighed-in, Mini. Almost makes me feel bad about all those times I popped you while you were trying to get GDF...
And with two sentences, my good friend Minimax sums up the entire point of the thread.
A 1v1 troll build - that's all toppa's ship is good for. And with no offensive output (again, I tanked his best while healing completely from 6% hull), he's basically a giant porcupine in space. Ignore him and he's harmless, which is probably why he feels the need to hurl insults ("run away, TRIBBLE!") during his troll matches.
Once you realize that this is his *only* tactic - goading you into shooting at him and destroying yourself - you can either withdraw from the match, or do what I did: Park 2Km away from him and laugh as he tries to "harm" you with his "mighty" beam assault.
Glad you weighed-in, Mini. Almost makes me feel bad about all those times I popped you while you were trying to get GDF...
...almost.
RCK
You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn
To cry, cry me a river
Cry me a river-er
Cry me a river
Cry me a river-er, yea yea
all this spouting off about broken mechanics that really arent broken..
if fbp kills you when you BO for 60k good. dimbulb. you just fired one weapon for 60k. duh?
you're in a glass cannon anyway two spot on volleys should be able to vape you in any case but i'm not going to go off 'n cry about a 'broken mechanic'.
some things are broken. fbp is not one of them.
You answered your question in your original post anyway.
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Sounds like his team was either MIA or this is yet another 5 to 1 ganking, not sure I'd want to brag about such "accomplishment" in the PvP forum.
errr... idk what to say about that....he said he was in the arena... Getting all 5 people to attack 1target is a good thing...
Let's say he got annoying in using double copy of FBP, so we first cleared a couple members of the enemy team, tanked the other two and switched to nuking him. As soon as his FBP ended I landed on him a fury of CRF, Alpha, Omega, FMM, TS and a TB2 to kill defense and got murdered in escape run. FBP in arena are hardly ever an asset because when the enemy is tired of your presence, you can be sure you're going to pop as soon as FBP wears off.
LOL. Hahahahhaha, well what was that guy thinking? After the RSP get sub-nuked you must use Reflective Immunity Matrix , then Battle cloak out. Guess he didn't have the full Voth set. That was clearly a predictable move there. Also who flies into 5 players with no allies around? :eek:
There used to be a team, they only were wiped out :P
And that same player on FBP after the match accused me of cloaking too often, I always escape a fight, I had a cowardish playstyle because I got kills that way lol
For some people is easy to talk when they don't have HE1 as only heal xD
ok im the guy hes talking about btw (yay first post (dunno why it says i have 2 posts)....and sigh its to reply to a whiner, i was told to just ignore this post but i had to atleast inform everyone of the truth)
1. love how he didnt mention i owned him 3 times in a row (lol)
2. he used aux2batt with rsp3+rsp doff, so epic rsp spam every what 30 seconds or so ? (LOL) i had to adapt to that on the fly, beams alone didnt do enough damage in between his rsp spam and fbp worked VERY WELL (probably too well based on this thread)
3. i never said i was some top pvper....
4. he probably never been owned that hard in his life (why he felt the need to whine so hard in this post)
5. i have more builds than that fbp build.....(just incase u didnt realise it wasnt made for 5v5)
6. i never insulted him...i simply stated (more than once) if he is going to keep running away from me then might as well just warp out and not fight at all
7. whine some more....and cry me a river XD
8. peace out
Proton is game ender against fbp tards. With a proper buff and a hit, the weak fbp player will get vaporized in one tap, with no splashback. That beign said, if the proton misses or doesnt do enough, the alpha bop will die almost guaranteed to fbp blowback.
\
Fought a 2v1 vs jedis fbp rig (a bug and a bop vs palisade) We lost. Sure i got 4 glorious one tappers, but we lost in the end. WITH NO OTHER TARGETS TO PURSUE: we were boned up against a fast activated fbp that killed us after we had fired.
But id tell you all what i told jedi, ur TRIBBLE in an arena. Ill get my clean shot and vape u and the other players will not bite. So to me fbp may have its place in 1v1 but is over all a joke.
2 types of Proton attacks are not only things that FBP doesn't reflect. Thalaron is third, but there are more. And FBPers always die first from it(and ofcourse cloaked ships if they are in blast zone)
And i already said many times that full FBP build is more harm then good to team.
I use single FBP on tactical dyson just to do damage while in defensive mode as well and it works fine, and ppl forget every time that i have it, so it's more of a mind game.
ON topic itself. I will trust Toppa on this one, because i know him. Thread starter did't mention any of those things.
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1) It slows down a match -> sucks
2) FBP doesn't add anything to your own team -> sucks
3) It forced the need for kinetic builds -> while I like my kinetic build, it still sucks to get forced into that ship
And with two sentences, my good friend Minimax sums up the entire point of the thread.
A 1v1 troll build - that's all toppa's ship is good for. And with no offensive output (again, I tanked his best while healing completely from 6% hull), he's basically a giant porcupine in space. Ignore him and he's harmless, which is probably why he feels the need to hurl insults ("run away, TRIBBLE!") during his troll matches.
Once you realize that this is his *only* tactic - goading you into shooting at him and destroying yourself - you can either withdraw from the match, or do what I did: Park 2Km away from him and laugh as he tries to "harm" you with his "mighty" beam assault.
Glad you weighed-in, Mini. Almost makes me feel bad about all those times I popped you while you were trying to get GDF...
...almost.
RCK
You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn
To cry, cry me a river
Cry me a river-er
Cry me a river
Cry me a river-er, yea yea
all this spouting off about broken mechanics that really arent broken..
if fbp kills you when you BO for 60k good. dimbulb. you just fired one weapon for 60k. duh?
you're in a glass cannon anyway two spot on volleys should be able to vape you in any case but i'm not going to go off 'n cry about a 'broken mechanic'.
some things are broken. fbp is not one of them.
You answered your question in your original post anyway.
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