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Negative impressions of the New ESD

nabreekinabreeki Member Posts: 2,657 Arc User
I am crying as I write this thread, and have been for several hours prior. I find my faith in the Cryptic team irrevocably shaken, to the point where I had to phone in at work, pop a couple aspirin, and spend the remainder of my day in my room, under my covers, the lights switched off (to ease the throbbing pain in my head), the mobile phone set to silent, lest an attempt was made to contact me in my despair. It's been a long, hard road, Cryptic, and we haven't always seen eye-to-eye, but we've always managed to come through for one another. Then I logged in for season nine.

The patch downloaded quickly, and I was excited to jump in and experiment with the new content, chat up some of my STO buddies on their impressions of the season, and, what the hell, maybe get a drink or two at the Drozana bar. My first stop, however, was ESD, to get a peek at the new zone. The design was beautiful, the station appeared more open, more spacious, and more accommodating to a Vice Admiral like myself. I could see a future there, one spent roaming the corridors, chatting up the tailor in the odd spare moment between mission, watching ships come and go, feeling like I finally found a place to call home.

Then, disaster struck. I was cruising around the station in "walk mode" (running in a Fed station, while no alarm is sounding, is a definite immersion-breaker) getting a feel for the layout of the place, a feel for the ins and outs of what will be my new "home base," so to speak, when I stumbled upon the changing rooms. Now, I am all for a private space where one can experiment with new outfits (as long as they are canon-approved), away from the crowded, public corridors of ESD. In fact, I applaud the idea of modesty, keeping oneself out of the public eye in the act of dressing/undressing. It matches nicely with my own morals and values quite nicely.

However, Cryptic, this is where the problem begins. I walked inside one of the changing rooms to inspect the space, and I ran into a major problem: I am not appropriately covered while in the room. My character is well over seven feet tall, Cryptic, WELL OVER, and these dressing rooms appear to be a kind of "one-size-fits-all" kind of deal. But I noticed that my entire upper body is well within view to anyone standing outside. I am no exhibitionist, and I cannot fathom why the devs thought it would be a good idea to refrain from accommodating aliens of different shapes and sizes. My immersion has shattered, and is lying at my feet in tatters. I am a broken man, doomed to a computer game that doesn't understand or love Trek the way I love Trek with its mantra of inclusiveness and tolerance for others.

This is beyond disturbing. I demand that someone address this issue with an explanation of their thought process as they were drawing up and green-lighting this design. This has cast a giant shadow over the rest of season 9, and I want answers.


I am a victim in distress.

Nbreeki.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm7vnOC4hoY
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,450 Community Moderator
    edited April 2014
    I don't think they had your character's species in mind when they designed the dressing rooms. Most humanoids tend to be about the same size.
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  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Fire fixes everything. Simply set the changing rooms on fire, and if the new ones aren't appropriate then just keep setting them on fire until someone gets it right.

    But given how many puerile trolls run around spraying everything in sight with fire extinguishers your results may vary.
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    HA!

    /10 characters
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  • rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    talien wrote: »
    Fire fixes everything. Simply set the changing rooms on fire, and if the new ones aren't appropriate then just keep setting them on fire until someone gets it right.

    But given how many puerile trolls run around spraying everything in sight with fire extinguishers your results may vary.

    I see what you did there. Bravo
  • andrestartrekandrestartrek Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    May I ask what kind of pills you taking, than we can both go nuts :D
  • alexmakepeacealexmakepeace Member Posts: 10,633 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nabreeki wrote: »
    I did notice the lack of any kind of fire prevention and detection system in place whilst meandering about the station, but with so many well-trained fire prevention specialists currently in-game, I wasn't particularly worried.
    The fire suppression system is to open the big windows and vent atmosphere. That's why there are signs by the windows with instructions for surviving sudden decompression.
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bravo OP :D

    also lol'd in advance at people who won't get the thread(and the two who already didn't) :D
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Dental is kind of amusing sometimes.
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Bravo, brava~!
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited April 2014
    We don't serve weirdos.
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I really don't understand your humor... I tried... I don't understand...

    This seems more like a 10 forward thing.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I was more disappointed by the shuttlebay in the new esd, if anyone had a walk around that area while it was in production you will know how large it is, it just seems such a shame that something that took a while to design is so under used, then I see the popup prompt take shuttle to Starfleet academy and I thought well that might be something a shuttle ride from esd to the academy but no, selecting this just does the standard beamdown that you get from the transporter room, so you cant tell me that a one minute cut scent of a shuttle leaving esd and landing near the academy would be that hard to insert here otherwise whats the point?
    they might just as well have put in a second transporter room and had done with it.

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  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I was more disappointed by the shuttlebay in the new esd, if anyone had a walk around that area while it was in production you will know how large it is, it just seems such a shame that something that took a while to design is so under used, then I see the popup prompt take shuttle to Starfleet academy and I thought well that might be something a shuttle ride from esd to the academy but no, selecting this just does the standard beamdown that you get from the transporter room, so you cant tell me that a one minute cut scent of a shuttle leaving esd and landing near the academy would be that hard to insert here otherwise whats the point?
    they might just as well have put in a second transporter room and had done with it.

    Well, there's a way in somewhere. I spotted somebody on top of one of the Yellowstones with a discoball, trying to get the dockworkers to throw a dance party. :D
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    We don't serve weirdos.


    Says the guy with a taco for a face.... lol ;)
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    talien wrote: »
    Fire fixes everything. Simply set the changing rooms on fire, and if the new ones aren't appropriate then just keep setting them on fire until someone gets it right.

    But given how many puerile trolls run around spraying everything in sight with fire extinguishers your results may vary.
    I like your answer.
    tacofangs wrote: »
    We don't serve weirdos.
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    Says the guy with a taco for a face.... lol ;)
    Ok that made me laugh.
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  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nabreeki wrote: »
    I'm glad my pain is amusing to you. I really am.


    You are one of those lovable lunks with fire extinguishers. I kinda figured you Dental types were upbeat all of the time, being party legends and all. :D
  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Simple - turn the room into a balloon pit. Should solve everything.
  • raahzielraahziel Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    This game is made with Humans / Federation in mind first and foremost. Aleien races are obviously a bit of an after thought in this game.

    Regardless - I am a Gorn Klingon Warrior and would have it no other way!
    I am sure the Federation experience is great, however we know much about the federation from the old tv series and films. We have much less insight into the Alien cultures of startrek so when I started this game last year and saw that I could be a Klingon (A gorn no less!) and a Romulan, it was a simple choice for me to go for the aliens.

    Why the hell would you want to be a boring human with all of this choice available? (It is a game remember so to each their own I guess)
  • liquinliquin Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    phoenicius wrote: »
    bravo OP :D

    also lol'd in advance at people who won't get the thread(and the two who already didn't) :D
    Well, it's hard because this forum has seen many serious complaints about things any sane person would find inconsequential at worst.

    At any rate, Cryptic... ESD is ... amazing.. If you could get all ship interiors, the other racial hubs & DS9 to look this good.. wow..
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2014
    Just drop a smoke grenade when you go in.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    OK, lay off the juice OP, i heard it shrivles and deforms parts of your body as well as your brain.
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Well, if you really don't see another alternative, go to your fleet base and simply change there. Dental is too big a fleet to not have unlocked a tailor in the base, the embassy and the mine yet.

    And please, go take your troll somewhere else. You call most of us trolls, but yet here you are complaining about how your Dental oversized character doesn't fit in a human-sized change room.
  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    So far my biggest gripe is that I keep walking into glass walls whenever I try to leave the exchange. I'm like seriously! Who put the door over there!?
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nabreeki wrote: »
    I walked inside one of the changing rooms to inspect the space, and I ran into a major problem: I am not appropriately covered while in the room. My character is well over seven feet tall, Cryptic, WELL OVER, and these dressing rooms appear to be a kind of "one-size-fits-all" kind of deal. But I noticed that my entire upper body is well within view to anyone standing outside.




    you should not worry, you haven't got anything that other players want to look at anyway. :D

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    capnmanx wrote: »
    Well, there's a way in somewhere. I spotted somebody on top of one of the Yellowstones with a discoball, trying to get the dockworkers to throw a dance party. :D

    maybe he got in there before they put the block in and could not find his way out, I must admit I had a job finding a way out myself.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • latiasracerlatiasracer Member Posts: 680 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    This was brilliant.


    but i agree 10/10 game is forever ruined for me
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    We don't serve weirdos.

    This is amusing. Does Taco realize who the OP is :P?
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    my biggest issue with the new esd... i cant find the foodcourt.
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    talien wrote: »
    Fire fixes everything. Simply set the changing rooms on fire, and if the new ones aren't appropriate then just keep setting them on fire until someone gets it right.

    But given how many puerile trolls run around spraying everything in sight with fire extinguishers your results may vary.
    erei1 wrote: »
    I like your answer.

    Perfect. At this point, I don't even care if the OP's trolling or not, the response was just perfect. :D

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  • cretinextracretinextra Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I was about to post serious reply when I noticed the OP's fleet.

    The bridge is that way
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