Nothing can ever be perfect. However, this game is online 95%(maybe more) of the time, and on a day when they are having some kind of technical problems, people act like they have been slapped in the face. There is simply no limit to the sense of entitlement some people have.
Lol and it goes from it being a free game... to people feeling entitled.
Guess what this is capitalism we have every right to feel entitled.
Not that it's even a matter of entitlement 3rd time in under a year the same network problem... once is forgiveable, twice pitiable but three times... lol.
They never learn. Neither does the CDF it is seems.
I've played Return to Terra Nova at least 300 times across four characters, once alternating between it and Delta Volanis exploration missions going from Consul to Ambassador (before the Doff system). Never got bored with it and it always amazed me how well done it was. I also like the anti-speed run elements you have in it.
OMG. That was my first mission. I'm sort of embarrassed by it now. Especially the lack of a sequel. I think I removed the speed run elements, but forgot to remove a reference to it.
It's insane to know that somebody out there is playing my stuff. I get one or two reviews a day on my non-spotlight missions, such as that one. Thank you for the patronage. I'm sorry Foundry weekend is what it is, so far.
Lol and it goes from it being a free game... to people feeling entitled.
Guess what this is capitalism we have every right to feel entitled.
Not that it's even a matter of entitlement 3rd time in under a year the same network problem... once is forgiveable, twice pitiable but three times... lol.
They never learn. Neither does the CDF it is seems.
How dare they have a hardware failure! I mean I know for a fact you've never made three mistakes in your life. If you had you should be fired and no one should ever hire you again. You'd have to be some sorta disgusting hypocrite.
Nothing can ever be perfect. However, this game is online 95%(maybe more) of the time, and on a day when they are having some kind of technical problems, people act like they have been slapped in the face. There is simply no limit to the sense of entitlement some people have.
I don't disagree with any of that; those are reasonable, sound points.
I just didn't think the "don't complain, it's free" was a sound point.
Nothing can ever be perfect. However, this game is online 95%(maybe more) of the time, and on a day when they are having some kind of technical problems, people act like they have been slapped in the face. There is simply no limit to the sense of entitlement some people have.
I've been fighting for six plus months to get STO working for me enough to be able to get in game and finally my persistence (and a fair upload of pics) got them to give me the teaks that let the game partially function for the last 2 days. 2 DAYS! out of six months of brain wreck. So don't tell me about entitlement, I just want to be able to do what everyone else can, when they can do it.
Again... how could it be upstream if Tribble is still up and running?
Depends on the environment. I have no clue how they configure their infrastructure, but having tribble on a separate domain/subnet, wouldn't be out of the norm. Since when you want to use tribble you have to transition a character over to it. It seems likely that it is using a different database server as well as different instance servers. So my guess (and it is just a guess) is that they have a production domain for holodeck and other pwe games and a test domain for tribble/redshirt and the like servers from other games if there are any. And those domains are segregated from eachother upstream.
If a person wants to be extreme and/or argumentative, even that isnt truly "free". How did that person get there? If he drove, the gas cost money. Even if he didnt drive, who owns the land? The land has a monetary value, and everything on the land is included in that ownership. There is simply no extreme you cannot go to to say something isnt truly "free".
Of course, my earlier comments are simple and have a simple meaning. It costs nothing for me to play this game, therefore it is free to me. So yeah
i like you already.
but.
the sun comes up for free. the sun burns for free. the air you breath is free.
so there is a free except not in the way that dude wanted it.
Guess what this is capitalism we have every right to feel entitled.
Please explain where:
a) This is capitalism
b) You have every right to feel entitled
I'm curious to know where you get these two concepts.
The Borg have it all wrong. Resistance is not futile. Resistance is electromotive force over current. Hasn't the Borg Queen ever heard of Ohm's frickin' Law?
How dare they have a hardware failure! I mean I know for a fact you've never made three mistakes in your life. If you had you should be fired and no one should ever hire you again. You'd have to be some sorta disgusting hypocrite.
It is when it's the same problem 3 times.
In the world of IT the importance of redundant systems is key to uptime. If Cryptic or the people they use to manage their servers haven't grasped this after 3 consistent failures then yes there is a problem.
I very rarely make the same mistake twice, let alone three times. If I was to make the same mistake three times with the same client
How dare they have a hardware failure! I mean I know for a fact you've never made three mistakes in your life. If you had you should be fired and no one should ever hire you again. You'd have to be some sorta disgusting hypocrite.
He said 3 failures in a year, your talking about 3 in your life, not really the same timeframe eh? But I suppose as a good old CDF'er you're entitled to bend things a little if that makes it easier to dispute a statement, eh?
Lost and Delirious... and Disenchanted too Apparently some forum posters have diplomatic immunity nowadays, where can I get mine?
How dare they have a hardware failure! I mean I know for a fact you've never made three mistakes in your life. If you had you should be fired and no one should ever hire you again. You'd have to be some sorta disgusting hypocrite.
Your sarcasm is noted, but I would like to point out that people very often do (rightfully so, I might add) get fired for mistakes... mistakes that INCLUDE not being prepared for hardware failures.
We dont' know all the details. It's premature to attack PWE and assume that this was: A) something that could've/should've been prevented with proper attention and maintenance, or an issue that one could reasonably expect an online gaming company to have a response/backup plan for. HOWEVER, it's also premature to jump in and defend them. It's quite possible that this issue was created by their own negligence. It's quite possible that it was a random act of God. I wouldn't be so quick to cast my lot either way.
as every one knows its down. and thy work hard to get it up again.
things like that happen. how often have you missed the bus because it had a problem
or even better. how often others could not enjoy something because you missed your appointment..
so we have no right to be angry. and im sure thy will solve all the other problems that this problem has caused
just show them some appreciation if thy have fixed it.
i like you already.
but.
the sun comes up for free. ...except you need to pay for the sunscreen to enjoy it.the sun burns for free. ... except we pay the electric company anyway for it.the air you breath is free. ... except it's getting polluted to the point it will likely shorten your lifespan so the hospital bills can finish the job.
so nothing there is free except in the way that you think it.
Nothing can ever be perfect. However, this game is online 95%(maybe more) of the time, and on a day when they are having some kind of technical problems, people act like they have been slapped in the face. There is simply no limit to the sense of entitlement some people have.
With a game that has a history of more stability, this might be a sound point, but it completely ignores the fact that for months on end last year, STO was plagued by constant server not responding messages and dropoffs to the point where a lot of people could barely stay logged into the game for longer than 2-3 minutes at a time. It is not a 'sense of entitlement' to simply want to play the game you want to play. This development team does not have a particularly good history with that.
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Lol and it goes from it being a free game... to people feeling entitled.
Guess what this is capitalism we have every right to feel entitled.
Not that it's even a matter of entitlement 3rd time in under a year the same network problem... once is forgiveable, twice pitiable but three times... lol.
They never learn. Neither does the CDF it is seems.
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We used to. Then the Perfectworld flooded and we all escaped on the ARC.
OMG. That was my first mission. I'm sort of embarrassed by it now. Especially the lack of a sequel. I think I removed the speed run elements, but forgot to remove a reference to it.
It's insane to know that somebody out there is playing my stuff. I get one or two reviews a day on my non-spotlight missions, such as that one. Thank you for the patronage. I'm sorry Foundry weekend is what it is, so far.
How dare they have a hardware failure! I mean I know for a fact you've never made three mistakes in your life. If you had you should be fired and no one should ever hire you again. You'd have to be some sorta disgusting hypocrite.
I don't disagree with any of that; those are reasonable, sound points.
I just didn't think the "don't complain, it's free" was a sound point.
I've been fighting for six plus months to get STO working for me enough to be able to get in game and finally my persistence (and a fair upload of pics) got them to give me the teaks that let the game partially function for the last 2 days. 2 DAYS! out of six months of brain wreck. So don't tell me about entitlement, I just want to be able to do what everyone else can, when they can do it.
Depends on the environment. I have no clue how they configure their infrastructure, but having tribble on a separate domain/subnet, wouldn't be out of the norm. Since when you want to use tribble you have to transition a character over to it. It seems likely that it is using a different database server as well as different instance servers. So my guess (and it is just a guess) is that they have a production domain for holodeck and other pwe games and a test domain for tribble/redshirt and the like servers from other games if there are any. And those domains are segregated from eachother upstream.
"between afternoon and evening"
i like you already.
but.
the sun comes up for free. the sun burns for free. the air you breath is free.
so there is a free except not in the way that dude wanted it.
Please explain where:
a) This is capitalism
b) You have every right to feel entitled
I'm curious to know where you get these two concepts.
i tried telling every one it was ARC's fault but nooo no body listens lol
I believe those concepts are taught in terrorist training school:P
It is when it's the same problem 3 times.
In the world of IT the importance of redundant systems is key to uptime. If Cryptic or the people they use to manage their servers haven't grasped this after 3 consistent failures then yes there is a problem.
I very rarely make the same mistake twice, let alone three times. If I was to make the same mistake three times with the same client
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An apple a day...kills you. They just couldn't listen to Snow White.
Cryptic = Jim Carrey
The servers = those guys
There's blue sky outside too. A little chilly, and my white skin burns a bit.
I'm having this weird sensation, like I've left the stove on or theres some dilithium not being picked up.
No PM's from friends. No disparaging remarks from my fleet.
Gawd. I miss my fleet.
And NOW I'm seriously considering Elite Phasers. I know, I know, it's wrong. It''s the withdrawls.
I believe an earlier comment was that this was the eastern server so it would affect NYC. I'm about 1-2 hours north of you and I'm also affected.
He said 3 failures in a year, your talking about 3 in your life, not really the same timeframe eh? But I suppose as a good old CDF'er you're entitled to bend things a little if that makes it easier to dispute a statement, eh?
Apparently some forum posters have diplomatic immunity nowadays, where can I get mine? [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Your sarcasm is noted, but I would like to point out that people very often do (rightfully so, I might add) get fired for mistakes... mistakes that INCLUDE not being prepared for hardware failures.
We dont' know all the details. It's premature to attack PWE and assume that this was: A) something that could've/should've been prevented with proper attention and maintenance, or
things like that happen. how often have you missed the bus because it had a problem
or even better. how often others could not enjoy something because you missed your appointment..
so we have no right to be angry. and im sure thy will solve all the other problems that this problem has caused
just show them some appreciation if thy have fixed it.
so nothing there is free except in the way that you think it.
With a game that has a history of more stability, this might be a sound point, but it completely ignores the fact that for months on end last year, STO was plagued by constant server not responding messages and dropoffs to the point where a lot of people could barely stay logged into the game for longer than 2-3 minutes at a time. It is not a 'sense of entitlement' to simply want to play the game you want to play. This development team does not have a particularly good history with that.
Biblical Reference: +1
Biblical Reference on a game that is based on a show that disproved any and all current religious beliefs: +10000