test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Shouldn't the war with the Klingons end soon?
massflyer
Member Posts: 32 Arc User
Well given all of the "Greater threats" being faced in the Alpha quadrant shouldn't the convenient partners reunite as they always did? With the Borg/Undine and Iconian/Elachi bent on eliminating all of the factions and the Voth\Omega\Sphere issues already forcing limited partnerships I think they would seriously consider putting their differences aside in the interests of self preservation and waiting for better opportunities
The KDF and the council love a fight, but they also love to win, and they know they can't do it alone because they can't crush the Feds alone easily. They still have to respond to the "Bigger threats" after the Feds fell with their remaining forces.
Just one guy's opinion Cryptic, but it might make some things easier in for planning the future episodes if they could use common episode material for both factions and make it feel more like existing cannon with the Feds trying to regain their ally at any cost. Similar to when the Feds faked the dominion attack plans against the Romulans in DS9. War made them do distasteful but necessary things to win/survive.
The KDF and the council love a fight, but they also love to win, and they know they can't do it alone because they can't crush the Feds alone easily. They still have to respond to the "Bigger threats" after the Feds fell with their remaining forces.
Just one guy's opinion Cryptic, but it might make some things easier in for planning the future episodes if they could use common episode material for both factions and make it feel more like existing cannon with the Feds trying to regain their ally at any cost. Similar to when the Feds faked the dominion attack plans against the Romulans in DS9. War made them do distasteful but necessary things to win/survive.
Post edited by Unknown User on
0
Comments
hahahahahhahahahahhahahahaha was not the first shot done a few days ago ?
system Lord Baal is dead
Well actually, I'm pretty sure it began before 2409, but your point still stands. IT IS TIME FOR 2410!!!!!
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Just sayin.
They aren't making any faction specific content now anyways, which is why they need to end the war. We can then make cross faction teams outside of private matches. This would be helpful since everything is cross faction now anyway.
Agreed. With an added question for everyone:
Raise your hands - how many people here think that if they end the war, they won't bother altering all the KDF content that revolves around the war and killing Feds(Doff missions, Kahless Expanse, Exploration Clusters, Pi Canis sorties, etc.), turning the game into an even bigger joke?
<
Raises hand.
HAH, dollars to doughnuts that's the only thing actually keeping us at war.
system Lord Baal is dead
Perhaps have the war be officially over, but allowing for House Vendettas/overly-draconian law interpretation for KDF/Federation players who don't wanna play nice with the other faction? I can't help but think overarching fleet relationships might be coming soon, with joint projects or something similar, and I'm really just spitballing.
"I always hope for the best. Experience, unfortunately, has taught me to expect the worst."
-Elim Garak
Sadly this is true ... .
'Cause I for one find it so belivable that Starfleet and the rest developped , built , tested and pressed into service the Solanae hybrid ships ... in one year .
And that's just the tip of the iceberg of stuff that don't make a lick of sense ... .
But it's just a game ... -- or Cryptic only rented 2409 for CBS .
Take your pick . :rolleyes:
i was always thinking that there are two versions of ESD and Qo'Nos, one for the war between feds and kdf and one after the war that allows both sides to be on each others places, thereby ending the farcical war.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Well in fairness:
The Fed ship, is a varation of the intrepid class
The KDF ship, is a varaiation of the KDF-Chimera (can't remember the name)
And the ROM ship is a varation of the Warbird.
Reinforced with some extra weapons mounts, and a new paint-job.
It still doesn't explain how each faction can design and build new ships like the Avenger and Mogh or the Odyssey/Bortas and so on in less than a year. More so when we know ships like the Galaxy took years to get from design to construction.
Besides at this point we might as well end the war, it would make little difference as by end game all 3 factions are cooperating in anything end game from the Borg to the Dyson sphere. Just throw in something to the early game content to say its happening earlier in the timeline much like the Romulan tutorial does.
Yes in TNG and DS9 klingon-fed relationships were always had some ups and downs - but in the end the two faction remained as close allies. The writers of TNG and DS9 never intended to create another full scale war against klingons - in the opposite. Everything made feds and klingons are closer allies.
In Enterprise we learned something about a war against sphere builders in the future - and federation, klingon, romulan and xindi forces fight as a united force.
War against klingons is absurd in STO. It is a good starting story - but when we learn about the Undine interference we should end the war with a peace treaty.
That and the DS9 era conflicts between the Federation and Klingon Empire was largely because of changeling Martok stirring things up.
Yeah, after the treaty between Feds and Klingons the biggest problems between the two factions were cause by outside forces. In TNG's klingon civil war story arc was caused by romulans; in DS9 the changelings were responsible.
In the beginning of STO's storyline I'd be very suspicios either as a klingon or a federation officer: "Hmmm, is it really the klingons or the feds are the cause of the problem or somebody just wants us to fight? Again? Why won't we talk to the other faction?"
From the way the story arcs pan out it is strongly implied that the higher echelons of Starfleet command and the Klingon chancellor are Undine infiltrators.
That could be an avenue for the devs to go down for a peace process, the player character gets a mission from Drake/K'men which basically entails you exposing the Admiral(s)/ Chancellor or high council members who are Undine and TRIBBLE with the minds of everyone like what happened to Tuvok in the new FE.
Which is nothing but a lazy repetition of the DS9-klingon-fed war.
And I never liked that. The story should progress, not go backwards.
But, as a theory, I'd say the infiltrators are primarily within starfleet. In the path to 2409 they seem to do ANYTHING to get into war^^
agreed as i tried to point out in another thread, the big problem with this game or any game of this kind is that its not linear, how can you end the war today then go back and play older missions that are blatently based when the war was ongoing tomorrow.
the best we will see is the occational step into neutral territory or the odd instance where we join forces to combat a common foe but as it stands at the moment the war will never end.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
That would certainly be an easy solution: just have the option when you approach the Sol System to either "Enter Sol System" or "Enter Sol System (Vice Admiral)," with two distinct zones (well, more like 4 distinct zones: orbit, ESD first level, ESD Shipyard, and Starfleet Academy, but still). And of course likewise with the Orbital Spaceyard in the Qo'noS system, the First City of Qo'noS, and the Klingon Academy.
Well, once the Undine infiltrators are all discovered and killed/incarcerated/whatever, yes. Although by now, shouldn't the Undine infiltrators themselves have learned that they were being played by the Iconians and be more likely to feel enmity toward the Iconians than toward anyone else, prompting the Undines to recall their infiltrators and focus on their actual enemy? Either way, the war between the UFP and the Klingon Empire is no longer justified.
I understand they wanted a PvP but PvP can be done is so many better ways. Like a simulated scenarios for players from both sides.
The most funny thing is they had to realize how stupid it is because as yu progress in the story, Klingons are out of sudden friendly and at the end even your allies. So yes, they should scrap the whole fed kling war and start a new. Which is not going to happen.
Instead of this we will get more nonesence, like space dinosaurs...
I 100 % agree with that.
I didnt even like the throwback in DS9 but luckily that was short.
And about he future: There the Klingons are federation MEMBERS. Hard to see that but still.
I also find it much more interesting storywise to have that often difficult friendship then a boring 0815 war.
Ending the war doesn't change the game. The players at the beginning of the game are dealing with a war. The players at the end of the game are dealing with a cold war and an amassing threat against the alpha and beta quadrants. Whether the war ends or not won't change that; and even if it ends it will only be over for those actually playing at end-game.
I don't think they will ever intergrate the Klingon Empire into the Federation, they are too different. One is about exploration and peace ect the other conquering.
Plus that episode of ENT will probably get retconned anyway as it showed actual Klingon ships in the battle like Vorcha class cruisers. The Federation doesn't let members use their own ships outside of STO they always use the human style ships.
A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'