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Season 8 Dev Blog #54: Galaxy Class Reboot

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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    They've been complaining since January with Arc and they're still going.

    2014: Year of UNBRIDLED RAGE!

    You know, imho, it's Arc (and the forum changes) that are causing 2014 to be the year of unbridled rage. The colors...are rage inducing. :mad:
  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    So, judging by the past few posts, rage has begun already? This playerbase has more complainers than anything I've ever seen.

    This happened when the devs dont listen to the player base and don’t give me the “forum players are not players base” because the ones that don’t enter the forum just lave the game with out even said good bye.
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  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You know, imho, it's Arc (and the forum changes) that are causing 2014 to be the year of unbridled rage. The colors...are rage inducing. :mad:

    Arc is a great thing, it just needs some fixes, that's all.
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
    Won't SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?!
  • wanderintxwanderintx Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Considering the hundreds of posts worth of feedback on the Galaxy family over in the shipyards, this has to feel like a slap in the face to some of the very well thought out and seemingly balanced ideas over there which went ignored.

    I just fear that a lackluster response to the bundle will be read as - "Players don't like the Galaxy."
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This is awesome! Finally the Galaxy is back in action! I hadn't bought any of those yet, as I wasn't sure when I was going to buy them.

    Sold! I'm getting the whole bundle since I don't have any of those ships.
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  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I don't care how much lipstick you put on a monkey, still is going to remain a monkey. :D
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  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    wanderintx wrote: »
    Considering the hundreds of posts worth of feedback on the Galaxy family over in the shipyards, this has to feel like a slap in the face to some of the very well thought out and seemingly balanced ideas over there which went ignored.

    I just fear that a lackluster response to the bundle will be read as - "Players don't like the Galaxy."

    u sir, summed it up quite nice. sad facts summed up nice. haaaax :D;):(
  • ogremindesogremindes Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The only reason I haven't bought a galaxy retrofit is the boff layout. It meant that I couldn't bring my crew that I had been using since the galaxy refit, and I'm no power-gamer, but even I can easily see that the third ensign engineering power is all but useless. I know that people more into the game mechanics have come up with a bunch more reasons why people shouldn't use the retrofit, but the lack of crew continuity is what got me.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Let me add Exelsior, Sovereing, Avenger, Odyssey, Galor, Ferengi Ship (all lockbox and loby ships in general), all Klingon and all romulan ships, all escorts and wait.. all ships in the game... lol.. yes, the Galaxy R is the worst ship on the game and is going to be the worst ship in the game next week.

    Now, if you are new in to the game I am going to tell you that the vets were waiting for this for 3 years.. and we got nothing.

    We dont ask for a overpower scimatar build, but at least made it at pair with Sove or Excelsior (which are far away from been overpower)

    Even if Cryptic were to take note that they've designed certain ships for content (content role) that doesn't exist in the game...they'd still face the issue of folks complaining that their particular favorite ship was assigned to a role they don't want...
  • grievasgrievas Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014


    i must stress, that it will be a TRAGIC missed opportunity if the station fliping tech introduced on the dyson ships isn't also applied to the 2 galaxys. no one could possibly disagree that the X should get a LTC tac stranded, seriously, so lets start from there. the station fliping dyson tec should modify the galaxy X like so

    unseped:

    COM eng
    LTC tac
    LT eng
    LT sci
    ENS uni

    seped

    COM tac
    LTC eng
    LT eng
    LT sci
    ENS uni

    saucer sep is the perfect excuse for a station to be fliped, more so then any transformation. the galaxy X has precedent for fliping to a COM tac, because its considered a dreadnought-cruiser. and a dreadnought, sans the qualifier cruiser, is basically a cruiser with a COM tac, as seen on the jem dread and scimitar.


    the galaxy R should be changed like so

    unseped

    COM eng
    LTC eng

    LT tac
    LT sci
    ENS uni

    seped

    COM eng
    LTC tac
    LT tac
    LT sci
    ENS uni

    this time your just flipping LTC and LT stations, and the galaxy R remains a true cruiser seped or not. id would say make the unseped LTC a sci, but i think that would step on the ambassador's and mirror heavy's toes to much.



    the new 'relaunch' of the galaxy line, you could make it so good cryptic. please dont stop short of what these ships deserve.

    As Picard would say, make it so. This would be such a great sales pitch for the new pack
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    totally, totally underwhelming

    a couple of bug fixes for the galaxy and some very minor buffs to the dreadnought (type-8 shuttle bay? are you trolling?) does not justify $40 bundle
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Arc is a great thing, it just needs some fixes, that's all.

    It's kind of funny, the forum colors...they're different depending on whether you're using DVI or D-Sub. DVI they're soothing...D-Sub they're rage inducing.
  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Even if Cryptic were to take note that they've designed certain ships for content (content role) that doesn't exist in the game...they'd still face the issue of folks complaining that their particular favorite ship was assigned to a role they don't want...

    Galaxy R and even de X does not have any role!
    Do you want to deal damage in a fed ship? Sove, Exc and Avenger are far better.
    Do you want to tank or heal on a fed ship? The Ody and the Ambassador are far better.
    And lets not even talk about the lockbox or lobi ships that made the Sove, Exc, Ody and Ambassador a joke.


    What role the Gal R has? and the Gal X? The only one I see is to rolplay.

    I just want this ship to be useful and at pair with the current ships.. or at least at 2013 standards. I dont care if is a healer, debuffer or dps.. I want to drive the Galaxy and feel useful.
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  • damix4damix4 Member Posts: 609 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I would spend my money if they update it with lt. commander universal station (instead of eng) and if they put 1 additional tactical console for fleet version.

    Otherwise, I will continue using my fleet ambassador.
  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Dear Devs:

    Lt Commander is Hax, plz nerf.

    Love,

    Someone who doesn't give about BOFF positioning.
  • kortaagkortaag Member Posts: 525
    edited February 2014
    Pretty sure the 10th is going to be a tac slot.

    DDIS has pretty much nailed it on the head on the seat flipping. That'd actually make it amazing enough.

    If not I'm going to say it's like cryptic gave an old house new blinds but forgot about actually fixing up the place. An extra console slot is miniscule in effort, marginal even if it was a tac slot. It needs a distinctness of its own and that's only going to come from something unique.

    Hell, at least let the galaxy drive emit one aura, and the saucer another if you chose.. Or something.

    BTW.. What's up with the galaxy drive? Upon separation it just looks like an awkward hot iron. Why isn't the arrowhead shape being left behind?
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    try not to be too bitter that we succeeded in getting these ships addressed

    Altho I would hesitate to call this "success" by the stats of things ... . ;)
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    Is the Monarch skin available on all variants, and is the Gal-X set up to use Envoy, Celestial, and Monarch skins or just the Galaxy and Venture?
    To my understanding:

    Exploration Cruiser: Galaxy, Envoy, Celestial, Venture, Monarch
    Exploration Cruiser Refit: Galaxy, Venture, Monarch
    Exploration Cruiser Rertofit: Galaxy, Venture, Monarch
    Fleet Exploration Cruiser Rertofit: Galaxy, Venture, Monarch
    Federation Dreadnought Cruiser: Galaxy, Venture
    Fleet Federation Dreadnought Cruiser: Galaxy, Venture
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Altho I would hesitate to call this "success" by the stats of things ... . ;)

    thats why i only said we succeeded in getting it addressed. not, you know, fixed at least half right.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    At least we ("we" as in the supporters of the Galaxy class) have finally, FINALLY been heard. This is a step in the right direction.

    EDIT: The post mentioned a 10th console slot on the Fleet Gal-X... but which one is it? Eng/Sci/Tac?
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  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,319 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Note: If you already own any of these Galaxy ships, the Galaxy Bundle will not be available for purchase.
    That's hardly fair. These updated versions of the ships are far more appealing than they used to be.

    Perhaps, there should be limited time 'upgrade' options for people who already bought one of the ships to get the 3-pack at a reduced price - but only for a short time?
    e.g. I have the T4 Refit Galaxy which costs 1500 Zen (If memory serves...) but I didn't fancy the Retrofit or Dreadnought at the time.
    Now I do.
    I'd like to be able to pick up the other 2 at 2500 since that would bring the spent Zen to a total of 4000 - that doesn't seem unreasonable, in my opinion.
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  • ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I tweeted smirk earlier and he said there are no plans to buff the galaxy-r so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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  • areikou#8990 areikou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    At least we ("we" as in the supporters of the Galaxy class) have finally, FINALLY been heard. This is a step in the right direction.

    No, no it is not. It's a step in the completely wrong direction. We were better off not hearing anything and assuming they didn't care. Now they've shown their hand and we all know for sure.
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    At least we ("we" as in the supporters of the Galaxy class) have finally, FINALLY been heard. This is a step in the right direction.

    Is not, is a half made work and do you think they are going complete it in the future? This is the Galaxy that we are going to have for years.. is the same Galaxy that its useless against the current ships and is going to be even more TRIBBLE against the ships that are going to be releases in the 2015.
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  • rifter1969rifter1969 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    OMG!!!!! :D

    This is awesome news!!!

    Thank-you!

    Just a little clarification though... can the saucer and the hangar pets co-exist?

    I know you can not have the saucer and the escort destroyer running together from the Oddy.. is that the same here?
  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yep.. nice li'l touch up of the Galaxies..

    Wait until the second deflector hits for the Science ships...

    Ya'll are going to be just far to smug and pleased with your selves... Specially you Dreadnought drivers.. I better see you all proudly roaming in "CANON" All Good Things uniforms or I will think bad thoughts at you!
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  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm not sure where this goes, Ten Forward, Federation Shipyard, or should it stay here?
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
    Won't SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?!
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Do you want to tank or heal on a fed ship? The Ody and the Ambassador are far better.

    What do you base that on?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    EDIT: The post mentioned a 10th console slot on the Fleet Gal-X... but which one is it? Eng/Sci/Tac?

    The blog on the Fleet Gal-X isn't until next week...
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ufpterrell wrote: »
    I tweeted smirk earlier and he said there are no plans to buff the galaxy-r so I wouldn't get your hopes up.

    Yeah, in fact he actually said the Dread was getting it's Boff stations "nerfed".

    https://twitter.com/PWECaptainSmirk/status/439135728405340160
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