You're not very good at trolling. Do you actually expect anybody to take that obvious bait and say something about your limited intellectual capabilities so they end up getting a warning from a mod? Seriously, nobody would be stupid enough to point out how stupid you are trying to be...so stop trying to bait people into pointing out that you suffer some plethora of mental defects...
...cause nobody's going to say it.
edit: Still kind of laughing at the Rom crying that his particular Warbird is obsolete...
warbird's power for singularity trade favor COM tac stations DPS ships, is unbenifitial to cruisers, and hurts sci ship warbirds. i agree its hilarious to complain about what warbirds give something up, as long as your talking about the ones with a COM tac. with warbird sci ships getting secondary deflectors, theres no excuse for warbird cruisers, that are unoptimized thanks to their singularity core, to not get cruiser commands as well at this point. battlecruiser commands for the d'deridex, cruiser commands for the hap'pax.
You guys take so long to upgrade the galaxy and the dreadnought and you STILL can't get it right? Really?
"New BOff seating The Galaxy Dreadnoughts Ensign Tactical BOff seat will become an Ensign Universal BOff seat."
This is just freakin TRIBBLE. Whoever came up with this as an "upgrade" needs to be fired.
-Did you fix the phaser lance's accuracy problem?
-Did you modify the lance to be more than one silly weapon type?
-Did you take a look and see the completely useless eng ensign on the galaxy-r?
-Did you even compare the dreadnought any ship made in the past 2 years? Regent vs Galaxy or Galaxy-X is still heavily favored for the Regent, and that's just for starters.
-Did you listen to ANY of the feedback given by players over the past 5000+ posts in the galaxy thread over the past several years?
I mean come on.
-Giving the dreadnought a hanger does not make up for its insufficient capabilities.
-Making the phaser lance a "shotgun" attack with reduced damage does absolutely nothing for the dreadnought. So it hits a few enemies at point blank range for reduced damage. IF it even hits. If the 40% accuracy of the lance remains, that's just going to become another useless gimick, again.
The galaxy and the dreadnought will still be far behind everything that's been released in the past 2 years. Thanks Cryptic for continuing to show that you don't really give a TRIBBLE about the most iconic ship in all of star trek.
Take this back to the drawing board and give the players at least some of what they asked for. Or just scrap the whole thing and don't insult us with this garbage.
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[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent
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You guys take so long to upgrade the galaxy and the dreadnought and you STILL can't get it right? Really?
"New BOff seating The Galaxy Dreadnoughts Ensign Tactical BOff seat will become an Ensign Universal BOff seat."
This is just freakin TRIBBLE. Whoever came up with this as an "upgrade" needs to be fired.
-Did you fix the phaser lance's accuracy problem?
-Did you modify the lance to be more than one silly weapon type?
-Did you take a look and see the completely useless eng ensign on the galaxy-r?
-Did you even compare the dreadnought any ship made in the past 2 years? Regent vs Galaxy or Galaxy-X is still heavily favored for the Regent, and that's just for starters.
-Did you listen to ANY of the feedback given by players over the past 5000+ posts in the galaxy thread over the past several years?
I mean come on.
-Giving the dreadnought a hanger does not make up for its insufficient capabilities.
-Making the phaser lance a "shotgun" attack with reduced damage does absolutely nothing for the dreadnought. So it hits a few enemies at point blank range for reduced damage. IF it even hits. If the 40% accuracy of the lance remains, that's just going to become another useless gimick, again.
The galaxy and the dreadnought will still be far behind everything that's been released in the past 2 years. Thanks Cryptic for continuing to show that you don't really give a TRIBBLE about the most iconic ship in all of star trek.
Take this back to the drawing board and give the players at least some of what they asked for. Or just scrap the whole thing and don't insult us with this garbage.
This was just another way to sell another ship pack.. who cares if they didnt add anything new to the ships or they give them little improbment? Is a new pack and is going to be sell. In a few months is going to be the Nebula pack, in which the ship gains 1% more hull and they sell you the Tier 3 and the 2 Tier 5 costumes for 4000 zens.
At this point is clear that Cryptic (or Geko) hates canon ships, I dont know why.. but look at the Romulan DD, the ambassador, the Defiant, the Nebula, the galaxy and so on..
If there is no LtCmdr Tac slot, then the USS Zorro will stay a Tac Vesta class ship, when it use to be a Dreadnaught. I always wanted Torpedo High Yield 3, for front and back, and beams for the rest. I dont care for saucer sep. I always have my NPC gimping AMS console though.
Im sure its already finalized, but imagine the Galaxy class doing The Picard Maneuver as the 10th console.
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Capt. Will Conquest of the U.S.S. Crusader
You guys take so long to upgrade the galaxy and the dreadnought and you STILL can't get it right? Really?
"New BOff seating The Galaxy Dreadnoughts Ensign Tactical BOff seat will become an Ensign Universal BOff seat."
This is just freakin TRIBBLE. Whoever came up with this as an "upgrade" needs to be fired.
-Did you fix the phaser lance's accuracy problem?
-Did you modify the lance to be more than one silly weapon type?
-Did you take a look and see the completely useless eng ensign on the galaxy-r?
-Did you even compare the dreadnought any ship made in the past 2 years? Regent vs Galaxy or Galaxy-X is still heavily favored for the Regent, and that's just for starters.
-Did you listen to ANY of the feedback given by players over the past 5000+ posts in the galaxy thread over the past several years?
I mean come on.
-Giving the dreadnought a hanger does not make up for its insufficient capabilities.
-Making the phaser lance a "shotgun" attack with reduced damage does absolutely nothing for the dreadnought. So it hits a few enemies at point blank range for reduced damage. IF it even hits. If the 40% accuracy of the lance remains, that's just going to become another useless gimick, again.
The galaxy and the dreadnought will still be far behind everything that's been released in the past 2 years. Thanks Cryptic for continuing to show that you don't really give a TRIBBLE about the most iconic ship in all of star trek.
Take this back to the drawing board and give the players at least some of what they asked for. Or just scrap the whole thing and don't insult us with this garbage.
Some people are too narrow-minded to differentiate between a balance issue between factions, and a balance issue within a given faction.
Looking at balance within a faction instead of across factions and the game as whole...would be narrow-minded.
Don't get me wrong, the DD got the short end of it. Thing is - and I'm pretty sure I said it at the time back during the LoR beta...is folks actually argued for what it is....so it was a case of saying hope they're happy (yes, said with a smirk). It was /epicfacepalm that folks wanted the DD to be what it was...this was even before the Scimitars came into play - it was bad compared to the rest before LoR even launched...and it is what folks thanked Cryptic for doing.
It was what you said though, about it being obsolete in the current state of the game...that's narrow-minded and kind of funny, cause the DD's still better than so many other ships.
It's like the guy with the Camaro complaining about the guy in the Corvette to the guy in the Spark...
Antimatter Spread on Saucer As always, when equipping the Antimatter Spread console on any ship that supports saucer separation (any Galaxy, Odyssey, or Prometheus Variant), the separated Saucer pet will gain the Antimatter Spread ability. This bonus will now also apply to the Galaxy Dreadnought.
Isn't that the Escort with the Multi-vector mode? If so is that to mean all the ship splitting consoles which are currently separate going to get rolled into one?
I only ask as I have a Gal-DN and the Mutli-vector escort.
well, the changes were a bit underwhelming, going along with the saucer sep. a hanger? seriously? is a pet going to be spawing pets now? whats that going to do to its cruiser commands, reduce them down to just the threat control command, the only one flight deck and dread have in common? and what of the galaxy R? will it be made a flight deck cruiser and lose 2 of its cruiser commands? thats like the only way you could make the galaxy R WORSE then it already is, your beter off doing nothing to the ship.
no one was complaining about the tac ENS the galaxy X has. but EVERYONE hates the 3rd ENG ens the galaxy R has. just a universal ENS is not enough, this is when this ship needs to be fixed and brought up to 2014 standard, or at least 2012 standard. it needs its LTC eng and LT tac stations swapped, any tac cruiser without an LTC tac is an uncompetitive also ran, the gimmick lance cant keep up with the damage potentual you can get cycling a LTC tac station power.
i hope the galaxy R was excluded from this blog so it can get its own, tommarrow. cause, the galaxy X is ok as is, but the galaxy R is the worst ship IN THE GAME BY FAR.
the saucer sep actually has a real use now, the galaxy X can use DHCs, and wile seped it will actually be pretty good at using them, to bad it wont also be able to run APO, without an LTC tac. that sep console didn't do much to help the galaxy R, it had no way to exploit its enhanced turn rate, and just suffered from being more fragile.
i must stress, that it will be a TRAGIC missed opportunity if the station fliping tech introduced on the dyson ships isn't also applied to the 2 galaxys. no one could possibly disagree that the X should get a LTC tac stranded, seriously, so lets start from there. the station fliping dyson tec should modify the galaxy X like so
unseped:
COM eng LTC tac LT eng LT sci ENS uni
seped
COM tac LTC eng LT eng LT sci ENS uni
saucer sep is the perfect excuse for a station to be fliped, more so then any transformation. the galaxy X has precedent for fliping to a COM tac, because its considered a dreadnought-cruiser. and a dreadnought, sans the qualifier cruiser, is basically a cruiser with a COM tac, as seen on the jem dread and scimitar.
the galaxy R should be changed like so
unseped
COM eng
LTC eng LT tac LT sci ENS uni
seped
COM eng LTC tac LT tac LT sci ENS uni
this time your just flipping LTC and LT stations, and the galaxy R remains a true cruiser seped or not. id would say make the unseped LTC a sci, but i think that would step on the ambassador's and mirror heavy's toes to much.
the new 'relaunch' of the galaxy line, you could make it so good cryptic. please dont stop short of what these ships deserve.
This +1, please.
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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but I got my Tier 5 Galaxy Dreadnought from the C-Store and paid 5000 points for it. Considering it's new price those of us that are locked out of the bundle now are we going to get any compensation?
Changing out the Ensign tactical slot for a Universal doesn't fix the ship's problem. It can't make full use of it's ability to equip Dual Heavy Cannons. Granted, the Single Hanger slot is nice but without a Lt. Commander tactical slot at the least, this is going to be a half TRIBBLE update. We're so close to having a kick TRIBBLE Galaxy-X, lets push this a little further.
Have to admit I was excited to read this blog and then my heart sank when I read that since I bought a ship 2ish years ago I can no longer buy the others at the reduced bundle price. Unhappy customer here who I guess should refrain from buying any individual ship in future in case it gets thrown in a pack! :mad:
There's the Gal-X and the Bulwark. Those are the only two Dreadnoughts.
The Scimitar is a Warbird. The JHDC is a Carrier.
They had mentioned adding the hangar to the Gal-X before the introduction of the Bulwark. So when the Bulwark came out, it was pretty obvious the Gal-X was actually going to get a hangar.
So you look at the BOFF layout for the Bulwark...and what they did the for Gal-X. They already did the En Uni with the Gal-X...so Fleet Gal-X...going to get the LCdr Uni of the Bulwark as well?
The blog will be out next week. So like I said, if it does match the Bulwark BOFF layout...thank them. If it doesn't, then thanks no thanks them.
no, those ships are all dreadnoughts first. the galaxy X and bulwark are dreadnought-cruisers, so they get some cruiser commands, and the COM station of a cruiser.
the jem dead is a dreadnought carrier, and the COM station on a carrier isn't necessarily set in stone. it getting a COM tac tells me that a dreadnought, sans any modifiers, would basicly be a cruiser without cruiser commands and a COM tac. further supported by the scimitar. warbirds also dont have a defined COM station type, and once again a dreadnought defaulted to COM tac.
Those are named as such, in fact since you mentioned the Bulwark here is its full name:
Voth Bulwark Dreadnought Cruiser.
The JHDC is not a Dreadnought Cruiser. It's a Dreadnought Carrier - Dreadnought is a modifier for Carrier...cause it's a Carrier.
The Scim is not a Dreadnought Cruiser. It's a Dreadnought Warbird - Dreadnought is a modifier for Warbird...cause it's a Warbird.
Galaxy-X Dreadnought Cruiser & Bulwark Dreadnought Cruiser...Dreadnought's a modifier for Cruiser...cause they're both Cruisers.
Carriers don't get Cruiser Commands.
Warbirds don't get Cruiser Commands.
Cruisers...do.
So in discussing similarities between Dreadnought Cruisers, one would not include Dreadnought Carriers or Dreadnought Warbirds...cause they're not Dreadnought Cruisers.
Well I guess it's time I organize another quick Galaxy get together at ESD
This time we shall all name our ships "add a LtC Tac station"
Seriously I was considering getting the pack, but without a LtC tac station bare min - sadly I will have to stay with my fleet excels.
There are a few days left, perhaps they will see that there will be maybe 10X the sales if they changed just that one boff station to a LtC tac. A increase to a base turn of 7 would be cool as well:D
Dang, all these complaints. No Cryptic didn't update the Galaxies the way everyone wanted. And yes there are problems. But there are problems with every ship in the game. And every time they come out with a new one with new abilities, it creates even more problems for existing ships. But these are still improvements to the Galaxies. No, maybe they are not on par with a Scimitar or Bulwark or JHDC or Voth Dreadnaught Cruiser. But they will still be a bit better then they were, which is good. And remember, the Federation is not an empire, so their "Dreadnaught" is still not going to be as fearsome as the Klingons or Romulans (I know, the Romulans now have a republic, but their previous empire is still fresh in all their minds, so they are still going to build more fearsome ships). Starfleet though prides itself on overcoming other power's advantages, not through additional power, but through out thinking and out planning their opponents. Because of this, I'd be concerned if their ships were fully on par with Klingon or Romulan ships, as this would be less Trek-like.
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first off: thx a lot. has been about time .... naaah. really thx!!!
though...
WHATEVER (just hopping in for my 2cts that probably/hopefully already has been dropped):
gal-x
is
a
W
A
R
S
H
I
P
!!!
give it the damn lt.cdr. tac boffseat (swapped for eng one)
IT,
(dahell,)
(********,)
D
E
S
E
R
V
E
i'm even fine without a hangar, don't need it. but i want solution that gives me AT LEAST THE OPPORTUNITY to go with dhc's or omega.
compare the other two dreads AGAIN (i'm sure u did). both have way better seating options .
/whatever that was, it's over. i'm gonna drink a milk now ^^ .... out
Oh my god, are people actually whining in this thread?
Seriously? Whining that it isnt an I-win button?
WTF people.
Quit crying, youre getting something good, and its even more OP pet spam garbage with a mini thalaron pulse built in to it.
ffs.
Of course they're going to complain...it happens with everything, and unfortunately it creates so much noise that legitimate complaints oft go unnoticed amongst all the whining. I'm not the one that determines whether a complaint is legitimate or not, not by a long shot...but good grief, some of the complaints are just so /lolfacepalm it's almost unbelievable.
Dang, all these complaints. No Cryptic didn't update the Galaxies the way everyone wanted. And yes there are problems. But there are problems with every ship in the game. And every time they come out with a new one with new abilities, it creates even more problems for existing ships. But these are still improvements to the Galaxies. No, maybe they are not on par with a Scimitar or Bulwark or JHDC or Voth Dreadnaught Cruiser. But they will still be a bit better then they were, which is good. And remember, the Federation is not an empire, so their "Dreadnaught" is still not going to be as fearsome as the Klingons or Romulans (I know, the Romulans now have a republic, but their previous empire is still fresh in all their minds, so they are still going to build more fearsome ships). Starfleet though prides itself on overcoming other power's advantages, not through additional power, but through out thinking and out planning their opponents. Because of this, I'd be concerned if their ships were fully on par with Klingon or Romulan ships, as this would be less Trek-like.
They didn't update the galaxy or galaxy-x with ANY of the updates that anyone asked for. They just slapped some glue and glitter on it and made a bundle for people to blow money on something 100% the exact same thing that it was before. There is literally zero difference between the galaxy-r now, and post update. There is a .05% difference between the galaxy-x now and post update.
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[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent
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warbird's power for singularity trade favor COM tac stations DPS ships, is unbenifitial to cruisers, and hurts sci ship warbirds. i agree its hilarious to complain about what warbirds give something up, as long as your talking about the ones with a COM tac. with warbird sci ships getting secondary deflectors, theres no excuse for warbird cruisers, that are unoptimized thanks to their singularity core, to not get cruiser commands as well at this point. battlecruiser commands for the d'deridex, cruiser commands for the hap'pax.
"New BOff seating The Galaxy Dreadnoughts Ensign Tactical BOff seat will become an Ensign Universal BOff seat."
This is just freakin TRIBBLE. Whoever came up with this as an "upgrade" needs to be fired.
-Did you fix the phaser lance's accuracy problem?
-Did you modify the lance to be more than one silly weapon type?
-Did you take a look and see the completely useless eng ensign on the galaxy-r?
-Did you even compare the dreadnought any ship made in the past 2 years? Regent vs Galaxy or Galaxy-X is still heavily favored for the Regent, and that's just for starters.
-Did you listen to ANY of the feedback given by players over the past 5000+ posts in the galaxy thread over the past several years?
I mean come on.
-Giving the dreadnought a hanger does not make up for its insufficient capabilities.
-Making the phaser lance a "shotgun" attack with reduced damage does absolutely nothing for the dreadnought. So it hits a few enemies at point blank range for reduced damage. IF it even hits. If the 40% accuracy of the lance remains, that's just going to become another useless gimick, again.
The galaxy and the dreadnought will still be far behind everything that's been released in the past 2 years. Thanks Cryptic for continuing to show that you don't really give a TRIBBLE about the most iconic ship in all of star trek.
Take this back to the drawing board and give the players at least some of what they asked for. Or just scrap the whole thing and don't insult us with this garbage.
[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent
Unrepentant: Home of the Rainbow Warrior and the Rainbow Brigade.
try not to be too bitter that we succeeded in getting these ships addressed
Who ever said it was the Starfleet Scimitar? Other than rumors and hopes of other players?
This was just another way to sell another ship pack.. who cares if they didnt add anything new to the ships or they give them little improbment? Is a new pack and is going to be sell. In a few months is going to be the Nebula pack, in which the ship gains 1% more hull and they sell you the Tier 3 and the 2 Tier 5 costumes for 4000 zens.
At this point is clear that Cryptic (or Geko) hates canon ships, I dont know why.. but look at the Romulan DD, the ambassador, the Defiant, the Nebula, the galaxy and so on..
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Im sure its already finalized, but imagine the Galaxy class doing The Picard Maneuver as the 10th console.
Capt. Will Conquest of the U.S.S. Crusader
we have come this far in getting these ships attention, now's the time to double down, not accept scraps
Looking at balance within a faction instead of across factions and the game as whole...would be narrow-minded.
Don't get me wrong, the DD got the short end of it. Thing is - and I'm pretty sure I said it at the time back during the LoR beta...is folks actually argued for what it is....so it was a case of saying hope they're happy (yes, said with a smirk). It was /epicfacepalm that folks wanted the DD to be what it was...this was even before the Scimitars came into play - it was bad compared to the rest before LoR even launched...and it is what folks thanked Cryptic for doing.
It was what you said though, about it being obsolete in the current state of the game...that's narrow-minded and kind of funny, cause the DD's still better than so many other ships.
It's like the guy with the Camaro complaining about the guy in the Corvette to the guy in the Spark...
Isn't that the Escort with the Multi-vector mode? If so is that to mean all the ship splitting consoles which are currently separate going to get rolled into one?
I only ask as I have a Gal-DN and the Mutli-vector escort.
This +1, please.
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i am jealous as i fly the fleet advance escort with the mvam and love the ship, but it is in dire need of a rehaul also.
is this on the books to do or just a dream?
Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
no, those ships are all dreadnoughts first. the galaxy X and bulwark are dreadnought-cruisers, so they get some cruiser commands, and the COM station of a cruiser.
the jem dead is a dreadnought carrier, and the COM station on a carrier isn't necessarily set in stone. it getting a COM tac tells me that a dreadnought, sans any modifiers, would basicly be a cruiser without cruiser commands and a COM tac. further supported by the scimitar. warbirds also dont have a defined COM station type, and once again a dreadnought defaulted to COM tac.
The JHDC is not a Dreadnought Cruiser. It's a Dreadnought Carrier - Dreadnought is a modifier for Carrier...cause it's a Carrier.
The Scim is not a Dreadnought Cruiser. It's a Dreadnought Warbird - Dreadnought is a modifier for Warbird...cause it's a Warbird.
Galaxy-X Dreadnought Cruiser & Bulwark Dreadnought Cruiser...Dreadnought's a modifier for Cruiser...cause they're both Cruisers.
Carriers don't get Cruiser Commands.
Warbirds don't get Cruiser Commands.
Cruisers...do.
So in discussing similarities between Dreadnought Cruisers, one would not include Dreadnought Carriers or Dreadnought Warbirds...cause they're not Dreadnought Cruisers.
This time we shall all name our ships "add a LtC Tac station"
Seriously I was considering getting the pack, but without a LtC tac station bare min - sadly I will have to stay with my fleet excels.
There are a few days left, perhaps they will see that there will be maybe 10X the sales if they changed just that one boff station to a LtC tac. A increase to a base turn of 7 would be cool as well:D
"Never Surrender! Never give up Hope!"
"Prosperity and Success in everything you do."
"To Boldly go.........well punch it already!"
"To Be or Not To Be"....Alas, the Foundry is Not To Be. We Shall miss Thee, dear Friend!
"Does anyone remember when we used to be explorers?"- Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Thank You, Cryptic......even when I don't agree with all your decisions....Thank You for Star Trek Online!
What's wrong with it? It's pretty much the Dhelan, which is a fine machine.
Mine Trap Supporter
though...
WHATEVER (just hopping in for my 2cts that probably/hopefully already has been dropped):
gal-x
is
a
W
A
R
S
H
I
P
!!!
give it the damn lt.cdr. tac boffseat (swapped for eng one)
IT,
(dahell,)
(********,)
D
E
S
E
R
V
E
i'm even fine without a hangar, don't need it. but i want solution that gives me AT LEAST THE OPPORTUNITY to go with dhc's or omega.
compare the other two dreads AGAIN (i'm sure u did). both have way better seating options
/whatever that was, it's over. i'm gonna drink a milk now ^^
Of course they're going to complain...it happens with everything, and unfortunately it creates so much noise that legitimate complaints oft go unnoticed amongst all the whining. I'm not the one that determines whether a complaint is legitimate or not, not by a long shot...but good grief, some of the complaints are just so /lolfacepalm it's almost unbelievable.
They didn't update the galaxy or galaxy-x with ANY of the updates that anyone asked for. They just slapped some glue and glitter on it and made a bundle for people to blow money on something 100% the exact same thing that it was before. There is literally zero difference between the galaxy-r now, and post update. There is a .05% difference between the galaxy-x now and post update.
[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent
Unrepentant: Home of the Rainbow Warrior and the Rainbow Brigade.
You yourself on the forums talk about how dps is so important. For example your crit vs critdmg thread I read the other day (good read by the way).
I know you know how game mechanics work. Because of this you also know that in its current state the gal x is terrible.
The gal x will never be on par to a scim but it should be closer than this.
Also I don't think pulse can miss...lance does all the time.
People have the right to whine. Just because you have no desire to fly it does not mean others can't want it to be competitive.