I guess there is still hope for a decent Fleet Gal-X: Commander Tac, 5th forward weapon, 5 tac consoles, a passive +10% crith. But heck, even then it's still inferior to a battle cloaking, drone ship launching, Scimitar. :rolleyes:
I still don't know why people are assuming the Fleet Gal-X will have anything more than a +10% hull and an extra Console slot.
You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
Does anyone remember the Mirror Galaxy X that was the old boss ship that could be found in the red portals around DS9?
The Mirror X used skills like Torpedo Spread 3 with Gravity Well 3 and Engineering Team 3 while it was fighting you and it was a pure beast to deal with.
Or better yet , the Mirror Galaxy from the Mirror incursion mission ...
I'm sorry but I feel that Cryptic cheaped out on the upgrades to the Galaxy class because they knew that they would not make much money off their time investment
My opinion is different here .
I think that they thought that if they make the Galaxy's a force to be reckoned with , they would not be able to pry a significant segment of their player base out of those ships with a crowbar .
And that represents a major problem for them 'cause they need that large segment of us to buy their latest shiny stupid on a monthly basis .
I still don't know why people are assuming the Fleet Gal-X will have anything more than a +10% hull and an extra Console slot.
Because it's a way for them to pull an extra $5 from people who bought it two years ago, and get new sales from a stagnant design that they just spent money to update. If you make the top rung of a ladder the one worth getting to, people will climb it even if the others on the way up are covered in dung.
I mostly play KDF because my fave Fed ship (Galaxy) was kind of ineffective over time.
I got the Galaxy Dread YEARS ago as my first C-Store ship purchase and loved it. It wasnt because I thought it was an "I WIN" ship . . . it was simply because I loved it from the TNG Ep "All Good Things . . . ".
I stopped using it for many of the reasons people have been vocal about it this thread. I'd like to point out that it's nice that its at least being looked at with a few improvements, however I would like to add that:
A) I agree - a LtCmdr Tac station would put it ON PAR with whats out there.
and
TOTALLY UNCOOL that we who have waited so long to make use of this ship and who have been loyal to the game and early purchases of the Galaxy/Varients have been penalized by not being able to buy the new bundle.
*Cryptic/PWE/Whoever* How could you not have known or had the foresight to see that the people who first brought this issue to light (being VERY vocal about it too) would be the same customers who would be penalized from buying the 3 pack? How could a company NOT see that as a little upsetting?
PS - *off topic I know but . . . * anyone know when we're getting that magic Raider Flank bonus as my B'Rel is what I'm going to continue to use until these items are addressed?
I cannot believe that this "Changed the Ensign Tac to an Ensign Universal" thing didn't happen on the Gal-R. Seriously, that Ensign Engineer needs to be either a tac or a Universal. Just that simple change would put that thing miles ahead of where its at.
Agreed. But the Dev's hate the Galaxy and just don't care. These 'revisions' are just lip-service.
More likely, the GalR is a $20 ship and they don't want to make it competitive withe $25 ones. I would have been shocked if the ship had gotten a change in effectiveness given the price point. It's also the reason I am holding out hope for the GalX getting better Boff slotting on the Fleet version; at $30 it should be the carrot that makes you want the others.
In light of not being able to purchase the bundle without penalty because I was a loyal customer thats been with the game for years and bought the Galaxy Dread early . . .
I think it would be reasonable if:
A) My version of the Type 8 shuttle pets were of purple quality
I just feel really, really disappointed at the moment. All the teases on Twitter made me think that something big was on the way... maybe even the fabled "Galaxy Bundle" we'd been dreaming of for years. At first I squeeed when I saw the blog and thought "FINALLY! Cryptic listened to the fans!". How wrong I was, just feel crushed now.
They put the ensign universal on the Galaxy-X, which is more than comical it feels like a slap round the face for everyone who prayed for the very same BOFF change to the Galaxy-R. They add the sacuer seperation for the X, which is fair enough I guess. I was kind of against it since it's not canon (the lance uses the power from the third nacelle IIRC) and a hanger pet (FOTM "fix").
One of the things that's really bugging me is that there isn't any hint that they've given the ship model a pass over, so the lance is STILL going to be miss-aligned after all these years and they're asking a few thousand Zen for the pleasure. All the constructive feedback, all the effort put in by the fans of this ship who like me probably grew up watching it when TNG was on the air.
My will to spend a penny on this game has just blown away in the breeze, guess I won't be getting that Fleet Nova or Fleet Galaxy-R now...
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No, gal =/= scimitar. The gal seem to be more of a multimission ship.
The avenger is your scimitar. It is nearly an exact match of the mogh, and both of those traded dps for durability giving the scimitar the edge in damage dealing.
Not saying feds (and kdf as well) should not eventually have a 1 bay dps gunship, but the gal isnt it, and given the older layout, can't see why that would have been expected.
Reyan I know it looks fantastic, I'm just a little put off having to pay for 4 fleet modules despite already paying for the Rhode Island refit. If it was two I'd be more willing but 4 is really off-putting.
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If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
Let's say that the new Galaxy X still has the Hangar, and Saucer Sep and Phaser Lance and Cloak but also came loaded with a new hybrid Phaser\ Plasma beam Array that you could get more of in higher marks and quality and in via the Dilithium store and with the following boff seating:
Standard Console upgrades: 4 Engineering, 3 Tactical, 2 Science
The thought process behind the Hybrid Phaser\Plasma weapons is that in the alternate reality that the X comes from the Romulan Star empire was handed its collective green backsides by the Klingon Empire and it stands to reason that Romulans would have been trying to work with the Federation to deal with the Klingons.
I fear that the only way we'll ever see a true Dreadnought class Galaxy X is if we pay for it again via the Zen Store becaue it can't go to the Lobi store being Fed only and it can't be lock boxed being fed only.
If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
If they fix the ship to make it usable, I will buy the hole pack and the fleet version of both ships and not even complain.
If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
In an instant. 5000 zen in their pockets for a real Galaxy/Galaxy X from me.
I wouldnt mind even if they called it mirror universe dread and sold it for 800 lobi as long as it got the right stats and access to the usual galx/venture parts if owned.
The Fleet Nova is pure awesome and I can't recommend it enough. Possibly the only thing that keeps me from not logging in these days.
I can attest that the Nova has been a huge player in the STB channel. I feel that I never have to bring out my MVAE for CC as Reyan has it.
I wonder with all the reaction to the Gal R/X if the devs have been watching.
It seems that there is a common theme with all the reactions so I hope that the dev team is watching/reading and paying attention.
I bought the Galaxy X knowing well of it's shortcoming but to be able to fly it is just for nostalgic reasons. I am hoping the Boff layout on the fleet version offers what I'm looking for if not all is looking for.
Reyan I know it looks fantastic, I'm just a little put off having to pay for 4 fleet modules despite already paying for the Rhode Island refit. If it was two I'd be more willing but 4 is really off-putting.
It's absolutely worth it. Easily my favorite Fed Science ship, next to the Vesta.
If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
Not a chance. I've already paid for the ship, I don't expect to be charged again just because. How about they fix the ship up with a decent layout and maybe i'll shell out on something in the future.
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After reading that they are making alterations to the Galaxy Dreadnought, I decided to get mine out of storage and have a little play around in it. What I noticed was that part of the spinal lance is out of position. The part that is connected to the saucer is just off centre and the tip of it overlaps with one of the windows. This issue only seems to happen on the normal skin, the venture class skin is fine.
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If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
Without hesitation. I own all three of the current ships, and would gladly fork over 5000 zen for a new "Advanced Refit" Galaxy.
Thank you for the T6 Galaxy Class. - I support Tovan Khev. - Please bring back the exploration missions.
If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
Let's say that the new Galaxy X still has the Hangar, and Saucer Sep and Phaser Lance and Cloak but also came loaded with a new hybrid Phaser\ Plasma beam Array that you could get more of in higher marks and quality and in via the Dilithium store and with the following boff seating:
Standard Console upgrades: 4 Engineering, 3 Tactical, 2 Science
The thought process behind the Hybrid Phaser\Plasma weapons is that in the alternate reality that the X comes from the Romulan Star empire was handed its collective green backsides by the Klingon Empire and it stands to reason that Romulans would have been trying to work with the Federation to deal with the Klingons.
I fear that the only way we'll ever see a true Dreadnought class Galaxy X is if we pay for it again via the Zen Store becaue it can't go to the Lobi store being Fed only and it can't be lock boxed being fed only.
Yes, Yes I would pay for it over again. A Galaxy X done right that is, one like you outlined.
If you doubt me Cryptic, just check my buying record, You'll see that I'm NOT bluffing either.
If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
If it was an actual, noticeable, appreciatable (no useless 2-set bonus) improvement, then sure, why not? Buying (or farming Dil and letting someone else "buy" pay for it) a new ship is the STO-way of character developement post max level. Fleet Ships, Lobi Ships, Zen Ships - it's just the way it is. If one has a problem with that than one is, for whatever reason, playing the wrong game. However - the Rebooted X doesn't offer an actual, noticeable, appreciatable improvement, and for all the disappointment i have to say it's at least decent of them not to charge us for the damn Hangar nobody ever asked for. (The Fleet-Version price is okay for peeps that already own it. It's a Fleet Ship. I didn't expect any major changes, though looking at the other Dreadnoughts in the game i have still slight hope for a surprise in terms of universal Boff seating. 5 Modules without discount is a bit on the high side, though.)
Now, a 5k Zen 3-pack with three consoles (X Saucer Seperation, Lance Accuracy Passive and some Science-gimmik) with the X actually getting some actual rework in terms of Boffs? Oh yeah, they'd get my money sign me up.
Spending 2000 Zen on a ship that's even worse than my X just to get a Saucer Sep i won't ever use except for funsies every blue moon, in order to get a laughable 2-set bonus that'll be useful for about three days, depending on how lucky one gets with filling out Fleet Marks? Hard sell. Really hard sell. Doesn't help that the regular Galaxy tends to look rather goofy without it's saucer, and the thought of an X without it... no. Just... no. That's beyond silly. Stop that.
I might do, unsure though. Cryptic have stung me enough times over the years to make me weary of spending money on this game. I'm still waiting for my romulan TOS uniform to have the correct colour palette for my KDF alinged female tac. Given the quality of say the Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim which I'm eyeing up, spending about the same amount of a ship in STO to grind the same grind I've been grinding for months seems a bit daft.
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My two ECs regarding everyone's complaints/suggestions/opinions:
1. Lt. Cmdr Tac station to replace the Enginner: I say no. There is already two ships that fill that role, Avenger and Fleet Assault. There is also a single hangar Heavy Escort Carrier with Cmdr Tac station. IMO the Dread CRUISER should not have access to three tactical officers, which leads me to ...
2. Lt. Cmdr Universal: If this were implemented it could be a good thing. Dread NPCs use Gravity Well. The Galaxy-X should be able to do so also. The problem is back to the three tactical officers. IMO this should be for BATTLECRUISERS and Escorts only. This get's tricky though because if someone wants the Lt. Cmdr Universal to be Engineer they could be stuck with just a Lt or Ens. Tac.
Everything else mentioned in the reboot blog seems spot on as far as bringing the Galaxy-X in line with what it should be. The hangars provide the extra firepower, the (guessing here) 4th tactical console on the Fleet ship could allow some serious buffing to the damage of the now AOE Lance. The problem in my opinion is the lack of the ability to have Gravity Well. The ship really needs this to represent the ship we fight in NWS, Mirror Invasion and such. The Galaxy-X also needs to be the ship every ENGINEER dreams about at night. Versatile, tanky, deadly, but also a viable healboat/support ship.
Solution?
1. Make the Lt Cmndr station Universal but remove the ensign tac and make it engineer. I don't really love this idea because it leads to what is currently the worst nightmare in PvP: Overpowered a2b FAW boats. At least the Avenger and Mogh sacrifice some tankiness to get that APO+FAW+TT+DEM3. Should it be possible on a ship with 44K base hull? I say no. Also, it again kind of gimps the tactical ability of a true engineering layout.
2. This is what I like as a fix. Leave the Z-Store Gal-X as it is. Make the BOFF seating on the 4 Tac Console Fleet Version as follows:
In conclusion, it seems to me that a Galaxy-X that cannot throw out Gravity Well just goes against everything we see it do as an NPC and therefore makes zero sense. I think these two layouts solve that problem, as well as giving it access to APO1 without making it stupidly OP by being able to also add three superior operative BOFFS, which WOULD be the case if it had a Lt Cmndr Universal replacing the current engineer.
If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
Let's say that the new Galaxy X still has the Hangar, and Saucer Sep and Phaser Lance and Cloak but also came loaded with a new hybrid Phaser\ Plasma beam Array that you could get more of in higher marks and quality and in via the Dilithium store and with the following boff seating:
Standard Console upgrades: 4 Engineering, 3 Tactical, 2 Science
The thought process behind the Hybrid Phaser\Plasma weapons is that in the alternate reality that the X comes from the Romulan Star empire was handed its collective green backsides by the Klingon Empire and it stands to reason that Romulans would have been trying to work with the Federation to deal with the Klingons.
I fear that the only way we'll ever see a true Dreadnought class Galaxy X is if we pay for it again via the Zen Store becaue it can't go to the Lobi store being Fed only and it can't be lock boxed being fed only.
Yes Yes Yes and YES!!!! Just get it right perfection would be Dyson ship BOFF switch when saucer step and uni Lt.
I don't want to be a jerk or anything normally but.. Al Rivera should have his knuckles severely rapped for this. For the love of anything proper if it was a matter of zen difference just make current owners pay a 1k zen difference and charge the rest to those who don't accordingly for a completely different purchase. It's not rocket science.
This "reboot" is just an insult to our intelligence, our patience and makes the design team appear absent of competency while lacking faith in their ability to deliver.
I would be willing to pay for it again for a re-do although I think this could be done in a way that preserves value.
So the new ship gets a new costume and doesn't come with the Galaxy costume or the cloaking device. I would also shift the phaser lance to being a weapon (which would come with the original). Basically a special beam array that does the lance effect as a proc (since it's too underwhelming if undertuned and too exploitable if overtuned otherwise). So if you want the lance, cloak, or costume, buy the X.
The new ship shares costume options. It's a 3 nacelle ship. It can equip a cloak. It can equip the lance or the saucer separation. But it has a new BOff/console layout and new costume.
Owning the new ship unlocks a Galaxy family costume for all Galaxy ships (3 nacelle version for Dreadnoughts, 2 nacelle for Galaxy). Using the Galaxy costume on the new ship requires owning the Dreadnought. Using the Venture costume on the new ship requires owning the Venture.
I'd like the new ship to have some Sovereign-inspired touches like the Excalibur has. The Excalibur's big brother (or the Sovereign's chunky kid brother) as a Dreadnought in the Galaxy family.
Another thing that might have lessened the sting of how underwhelming the improved Galaxy X is would have been if Cryptic had introduced Hanger Support with it that was comparable to the Romulan Drone ships in the terms of durability and fire power.
It truly seems like Cryptic just does not want to listen to any suggestions that the players make about directions to take with ships and the like here in STO.
If I had any clout within Cryptic and I had seen half of the flak that being dished on the improvements made to the Galaxy X Dreadnought and the fact that many are willing to pay all over again for the Dream X, I would come up with some kind of redesign the X PR campaign.
Offer the players an opportunity to vote on some of the options that the Galaxy X could have.
Put together a version of the X that had been voted on by the majority of the player base and then turn around and sell it to them
If the endeavor proved to be successful I would try it again with a Klingon BOP and a Romulan Warbird.
If it continued to work I would make it annual event where the players would get to vote on options that would go into new Cryptic Desgined ships for STO.
In a MMO such has STO where the Devs have already stated that they are having a hard time to come up with new ideas for ships and special consoles tapping into the player base for some inspiration should be a nobrainer :rolleyes:
Also, I'll go ahead and suggest my ideal weapon for the new Dreadnaught:
Photon Pulse Cannon.
Similar to the Chroniton beam array (which adapts a torpedo as a beam) and quad cannon, this would be a kinetic damage DHC. Uses Photon torpedo effects for the fire. Benefits from phaser consoles (just like Chroniton beam benefits from AP consoles). As a result of having no procs, comes equipped with 4 mods and increased damage.
Usable on any ship that can use cannons and also on the Exploration Cruiser.
Maybe have some corresponding KDF Vor'cha Dreadnought and Romulan D'deridex Dreadnought with disruptor and special plasma cannons.
Technobabble about holographic photon torpedo emitters being fitted to a phaser cannon relay.
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I still don't know why people are assuming the Fleet Gal-X will have anything more than a +10% hull and an extra Console slot.
Or better yet , the Mirror Galaxy from the Mirror incursion mission ...
My opinion is different here .
I think that they thought that if they make the Galaxy's a force to be reckoned with , they would not be able to pry a significant segment of their player base out of those ships with a crowbar .
And that represents a major problem for them 'cause they need that large segment of us to buy their latest shiny stupid on a monthly basis .
Because it's a way for them to pull an extra $5 from people who bought it two years ago, and get new sales from a stagnant design that they just spent money to update. If you make the top rung of a ladder the one worth getting to, people will climb it even if the others on the way up are covered in dung.
I got the Galaxy Dread YEARS ago as my first C-Store ship purchase and loved it. It wasnt because I thought it was an "I WIN" ship . . . it was simply because I loved it from the TNG Ep "All Good Things . . . ".
I stopped using it for many of the reasons people have been vocal about it this thread. I'd like to point out that it's nice that its at least being looked at with a few improvements, however I would like to add that:
A) I agree - a LtCmdr Tac station would put it ON PAR with whats out there.
and
*Cryptic/PWE/Whoever* How could you not have known or had the foresight to see that the people who first brought this issue to light (being VERY vocal about it too) would be the same customers who would be penalized from buying the 3 pack? How could a company NOT see that as a little upsetting?
PS - *off topic I know but . . . * anyone know when we're getting that magic Raider Flank bonus as my B'Rel is what I'm going to continue to use until these items are addressed?
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They don't hate it but they probably don't care.
More likely, the GalR is a $20 ship and they don't want to make it competitive withe $25 ones. I would have been shocked if the ship had gotten a change in effectiveness given the price point. It's also the reason I am holding out hope for the GalX getting better Boff slotting on the Fleet version; at $30 it should be the carrot that makes you want the others.
In light of not being able to purchase the bundle without penalty because I was a loyal customer thats been with the game for years and bought the Galaxy Dread early . . .
I think it would be reasonable if:
A) My version of the Type 8 shuttle pets were of purple quality
OR
They put the ensign universal on the Galaxy-X, which is more than comical it feels like a slap round the face for everyone who prayed for the very same BOFF change to the Galaxy-R. They add the sacuer seperation for the X, which is fair enough I guess. I was kind of against it since it's not canon (the lance uses the power from the third nacelle IIRC) and a hanger pet (FOTM "fix").
One of the things that's really bugging me is that there isn't any hint that they've given the ship model a pass over, so the lance is STILL going to be miss-aligned after all these years and they're asking a few thousand Zen for the pleasure. All the constructive feedback, all the effort put in by the fans of this ship who like me probably grew up watching it when TNG was on the air.
My will to spend a penny on this game has just blown away in the breeze, guess I won't be getting that Fleet Nova or Fleet Galaxy-R now...
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The avenger is your scimitar. It is nearly an exact match of the mogh, and both of those traded dps for durability giving the scimitar the edge in damage dealing.
Not saying feds (and kdf as well) should not eventually have a 1 bay dps gunship, but the gal isnt it, and given the older layout, can't see why that would have been expected.
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If Cryptic were to do a complete overhaul of the Galaxy X (for real) and use some of the suggestions that many of us offered, would you guys be willing to buy the ship all over again?
Let's say that the new Galaxy X still has the Hangar, and Saucer Sep and Phaser Lance and Cloak but also came loaded with a new hybrid Phaser\ Plasma beam Array that you could get more of in higher marks and quality and in via the Dilithium store and with the following boff seating:
Commander Engineering, Lt. Commander Tactical, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Science, Ensign Tactical
Standard Console upgrades: 4 Engineering, 3 Tactical, 2 Science
The thought process behind the Hybrid Phaser\Plasma weapons is that in the alternate reality that the X comes from the Romulan Star empire was handed its collective green backsides by the Klingon Empire and it stands to reason that Romulans would have been trying to work with the Federation to deal with the Klingons.
I fear that the only way we'll ever see a true Dreadnought class Galaxy X is if we pay for it again via the Zen Store becaue it can't go to the Lobi store being Fed only and it can't be lock boxed being fed only.
If they fix the ship to make it usable, I will buy the hole pack and the fleet version of both ships and not even complain.
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In an instant. 5000 zen in their pockets for a real Galaxy/Galaxy X from me.
I can attest that the Nova has been a huge player in the STB channel. I feel that I never have to bring out my MVAE for CC as Reyan has it.
I wonder with all the reaction to the Gal R/X if the devs have been watching.
It seems that there is a common theme with all the reactions so I hope that the dev team is watching/reading and paying attention.
I bought the Galaxy X knowing well of it's shortcoming but to be able to fly it is just for nostalgic reasons. I am hoping the Boff layout on the fleet version offers what I'm looking for if not all is looking for.
It's absolutely worth it. Easily my favorite Fed Science ship, next to the Vesta.
Not a chance. I've already paid for the ship, I don't expect to be charged again just because. How about they fix the ship up with a decent layout and maybe i'll shell out on something in the future.
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Without hesitation. I own all three of the current ships, and would gladly fork over 5000 zen for a new "Advanced Refit" Galaxy.
Yes, Yes I would pay for it over again. A Galaxy X done right that is, one like you outlined.
If you doubt me Cryptic, just check my buying record, You'll see that I'm NOT bluffing either.
If it was an actual, noticeable, appreciatable (no useless 2-set bonus) improvement, then sure, why not? Buying (or farming Dil and letting someone else "buy" pay for it) a new ship is the STO-way of character developement post max level. Fleet Ships, Lobi Ships, Zen Ships - it's just the way it is. If one has a problem with that than one is, for whatever reason, playing the wrong game. However - the Rebooted X doesn't offer an actual, noticeable, appreciatable improvement, and for all the disappointment i have to say it's at least decent of them not to charge us for the damn Hangar nobody ever asked for. (The Fleet-Version price is okay for peeps that already own it. It's a Fleet Ship. I didn't expect any major changes, though looking at the other Dreadnoughts in the game i have still slight hope for a surprise in terms of universal Boff seating. 5 Modules without discount is a bit on the high side, though.)
Now, a 5k Zen 3-pack with three consoles (X Saucer Seperation, Lance Accuracy Passive and some Science-gimmik) with the X actually getting some actual rework in terms of Boffs? Oh yeah, they'd get my money sign me up.
Spending 2000 Zen on a ship that's even worse than my X just to get a Saucer Sep i won't ever use except for funsies every blue moon, in order to get a laughable 2-set bonus that'll be useful for about three days, depending on how lucky one gets with filling out Fleet Marks? Hard sell. Really hard sell. Doesn't help that the regular Galaxy tends to look rather goofy without it's saucer, and the thought of an X without it... no. Just... no. That's beyond silly. Stop that.
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1. Lt. Cmdr Tac station to replace the Enginner: I say no. There is already two ships that fill that role, Avenger and Fleet Assault. There is also a single hangar Heavy Escort Carrier with Cmdr Tac station. IMO the Dread CRUISER should not have access to three tactical officers, which leads me to ...
2. Lt. Cmdr Universal: If this were implemented it could be a good thing. Dread NPCs use Gravity Well. The Galaxy-X should be able to do so also. The problem is back to the three tactical officers. IMO this should be for BATTLECRUISERS and Escorts only. This get's tricky though because if someone wants the Lt. Cmdr Universal to be Engineer they could be stuck with just a Lt or Ens. Tac.
Everything else mentioned in the reboot blog seems spot on as far as bringing the Galaxy-X in line with what it should be. The hangars provide the extra firepower, the (guessing here) 4th tactical console on the Fleet ship could allow some serious buffing to the damage of the now AOE Lance. The problem in my opinion is the lack of the ability to have Gravity Well. The ship really needs this to represent the ship we fight in NWS, Mirror Invasion and such. The Galaxy-X also needs to be the ship every ENGINEER dreams about at night. Versatile, tanky, deadly, but also a viable healboat/support ship.
Solution?
1. Make the Lt Cmndr station Universal but remove the ensign tac and make it engineer. I don't really love this idea because it leads to what is currently the worst nightmare in PvP: Overpowered a2b FAW boats. At least the Avenger and Mogh sacrifice some tankiness to get that APO+FAW+TT+DEM3. Should it be possible on a ship with 44K base hull? I say no. Also, it again kind of gimps the tactical ability of a true engineering layout.
2. This is what I like as a fix. Leave the Z-Store Gal-X as it is. Make the BOFF seating on the 4 Tac Console Fleet Version as follows:
Commander Engineer
Lt Commander Tactical
Lt Commander Science
Lt Engineer
or, give it a Recluse like layout:
Commander Engineer
Ensign Engineer
Lt Commander Tactical
Ensign Tactical
Lt Commander Science
In conclusion, it seems to me that a Galaxy-X that cannot throw out Gravity Well just goes against everything we see it do as an NPC and therefore makes zero sense. I think these two layouts solve that problem, as well as giving it access to APO1 without making it stupidly OP by being able to also add three superior operative BOFFS, which WOULD be the case if it had a Lt Cmndr Universal replacing the current engineer.
Yes Yes Yes and YES!!!! Just get it right perfection would be Dyson ship BOFF switch when saucer step and uni Lt.
This "reboot" is just an insult to our intelligence, our patience and makes the design team appear absent of competency while lacking faith in their ability to deliver.
So the new ship gets a new costume and doesn't come with the Galaxy costume or the cloaking device. I would also shift the phaser lance to being a weapon (which would come with the original). Basically a special beam array that does the lance effect as a proc (since it's too underwhelming if undertuned and too exploitable if overtuned otherwise). So if you want the lance, cloak, or costume, buy the X.
The new ship shares costume options. It's a 3 nacelle ship. It can equip a cloak. It can equip the lance or the saucer separation. But it has a new BOff/console layout and new costume.
Owning the new ship unlocks a Galaxy family costume for all Galaxy ships (3 nacelle version for Dreadnoughts, 2 nacelle for Galaxy). Using the Galaxy costume on the new ship requires owning the Dreadnought. Using the Venture costume on the new ship requires owning the Venture.
I'd like the new ship to have some Sovereign-inspired touches like the Excalibur has. The Excalibur's big brother (or the Sovereign's chunky kid brother) as a Dreadnought in the Galaxy family.
It truly seems like Cryptic just does not want to listen to any suggestions that the players make about directions to take with ships and the like here in STO.
If I had any clout within Cryptic and I had seen half of the flak that being dished on the improvements made to the Galaxy X Dreadnought and the fact that many are willing to pay all over again for the Dream X, I would come up with some kind of redesign the X PR campaign.
Offer the players an opportunity to vote on some of the options that the Galaxy X could have.
Put together a version of the X that had been voted on by the majority of the player base and then turn around and sell it to them
If the endeavor proved to be successful I would try it again with a Klingon BOP and a Romulan Warbird.
If it continued to work I would make it annual event where the players would get to vote on options that would go into new Cryptic Desgined ships for STO.
In a MMO such has STO where the Devs have already stated that they are having a hard time to come up with new ideas for ships and special consoles tapping into the player base for some inspiration should be a nobrainer :rolleyes:
Photon Pulse Cannon.
Similar to the Chroniton beam array (which adapts a torpedo as a beam) and quad cannon, this would be a kinetic damage DHC. Uses Photon torpedo effects for the fire. Benefits from phaser consoles (just like Chroniton beam benefits from AP consoles). As a result of having no procs, comes equipped with 4 mods and increased damage.
Usable on any ship that can use cannons and also on the Exploration Cruiser.
Maybe have some corresponding KDF Vor'cha Dreadnought and Romulan D'deridex Dreadnought with disruptor and special plasma cannons.
Technobabble about holographic photon torpedo emitters being fitted to a phaser cannon relay.