The X is not a Romulan ship. It is not going to get 10 Consoles, free Cloak, and free Saucer Sep. Most likely the Cloak will be a Console - that you can bring over from your existing X - and the Saucer Sep will be a Console. Thus if you want it all you are looking at an 8 Console ship left after that.
Why does it need to be a Romulan ship? What is your reasoning that leads you to believe that it can't be a 10-console ship with a cloak and saucer sep? And what exactly states that the revamp will not be applied to existing Galaxy-X ships?
Why does it need to be a Romulan ship? What is your reasoning that leads you to believe that it can't be a 10-console ship with a cloak and saucer sep? And what exactly states that the revamp will not be applied to existing Galaxy-X ships?
My reason for believing this is that it would be a precedent for a Fed ship to be given important bonus Abilities without it also being penalized at the same time.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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An interview with Rivera had him talking about their reworking the Gal-Dread, giving it access to saucer separation (after two years of it being already functional but lacking "good animation" or something), and giving that separation and the MVAE separation systems a rework to function like the Odyssey.
If it ends up having a permanent gun in place of the click-shoot ability then it'll be confirmation that the Dyson destroyer permanent gun is really the TRIBBLE child of the things on this forum said about what the Dreadnought needed.
If it ends up with the Scimitar boff layout that'll be confirmation of another claim that el'scimitar is the Gal-Dread's forum-ghost.
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And the ship should already be "fleet grade", none of this "Fleet module" (or 3-pack) business.
Maybe the Cloak and Saucer Sep Consoles give a mini Set Bonus.
Battle Cloak Console, Saucer Sep Console and Lance Weapon (Which when equipped, adds the 3rd Nacelle to the galaxy costume) = 3 Piece Set bonus. 5 forward weapon slots, 3 aft. Tac version comes with Lance Weapon, Science comes with Cloak, Eng comes with Saucer Sep.
Tac: 5 Tac consoles, 1 Sci, 4 Eng
Sci: 2 Tac Consoles, 4 Sci, 4 Eng
Eng: 3 Tac Consoles, 2 Sci, 5 Eng
Hey if we're gonna dream -- dream big.
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Battle Cloak Console, Saucer Sep Console and Lance Weapon (Which when equipped, adds the 3rd Nacelle to the galaxy costume) = 3 Piece Set bonus. 5 forward weapon slots, 3 aft. Tac version comes with Lance Weapon, Science comes with Cloak, Eng comes with Saucer Sep.
Tac: 5 Tac consoles, 1 Sci, 4 Eng
Sci: 2 Tac Consoles, 4 Sci, 4 Eng
Eng: 3 Tac Consoles, 2 Sci, 5 Eng
Hey if we're gonna dream -- dream big.
This ship doesn't need to be revamped into 3-pack trash. It needs all the ideas that were used on other ships suggested for it to be included. "Scimitar" boff stations, Dyson permanent gun (for a nice 9/4 arrangement) - you know, useful things - on the ship people already have so that new people will go "I want that too."
The X is not a Romulan ship. It is not going to get 10 Consoles, free Cloak, and free Saucer Sep. Most likely the Cloak will be a Console - that you can bring over from your existing X - and the Saucer Sep will be a Console. Thus if you want it all you are looking at an 8 Console ship left after that.
When it was first put into the game the cloak was built-in and the ship was worse than it is now.
The whole "oh look a cloak console" came from the tac. esc. retro package - neither needed a console, they just did it to make the KDF feel good about themselves.
When it comes down to it there's no reason why the Romulans and KDF get cloaking devices without consoles while the Federation needs to waste precious space on their end with them.
When it was first put into the game the cloak was built-in and the ship was worse than it is now.
The whole "oh look a cloak console" came from the tac. esc. retro package - neither needed a console, they just did it to make the KDF feel good about themselves.
When it comes down to it there's no reason why the Romulans and KDF get cloaking devices without consoles while the Federation needs to waste precious space on their end with them.
It does not bother me that the Fed Cloak is not innate. If I cannot accept IDIC then I am not a very good Trekkie.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
It does not bother me that the Fed Cloak is not innate. If I cannot accept IDIC then I am not a very good Trekkie.
It doesn't need to bother you, it's a matter of "consistent gameplay."
Romulan ships get a 10 point power deficit in favor of rather regular and powerful abilities. KDF ships get a cloak and, depending on class, better boff layouts.
All I can say is, I look forward to seeing what the Devs come up with. If I like it enough, I'll switch K'Kera (my dedicated Galaxy-class ship captain) from her current ship to the Galaxy-X (which is just sitting there looking pretty right now).
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It doesn't need to bother you, it's a matter of "consistent gameplay."
Romulan ships get a 10 point power deficit in favor of rather regular and powerful abilities. KDF ships get a cloak and, depending on class, better boff layouts.
Feds?
They get the most 3-packs.
Say no to drugs.
No matter how hard you try in multiple threads, your pessimism will not rub off on me. Really.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
All I can say is, I look forward to seeing what the Devs come up with. If I like it enough, I'll switch K'Kera (my dedicated Galaxy-class ship captain) from her current ship to the Galaxy-X (which is just sitting there looking pretty right now).
I know a player with the Dreadnought, they use it to haul cargo and crash into things. A lot of ships are lost, Starfleet deserves it.
I don't see why consoles need to be removed. The Gal-X only has 9 to begin with - it can't afford to lose any IMO. This whole discussion is about the Gal-X gaining strength, I'm not sure why you're assuming someone wants it weaker in any aspect.
I didn't mean it having 8 consoles, I just meant since you want it to be like the Voth one that it would have a tac console moved to Engineering likey.
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Side prediction: Existing Dreadnought becomes 10 console but phaser lance becomes a console, not included with Dreadnought carrier. Dreadnought Carrier includes a new Jupiter costume, does not include a Galaxy costume (which is unlocked by owning the Galaxy-X).
Side prediction: Existing Dreadnought becomes 10 console but phaser lance becomes a console, not included with Dreadnought carrier. Dreadnought Carrier includes a new Jupiter costume, does not include a Galaxy costume (which is unlocked by owning the Galaxy-X).
wouldn't it suck in PvP to get Lanced by a ship that should have no Lance.'
I'm not sure it's really that big a deal is it? There's so many different ship profiles these days that I just don't think it's really wort the effort to keep track. And as the lance is right now, is it really a huge impact weapon in PVP?
This ship needs a lot more than 10% more hull and Shields and the extra console slot to even be competitive with the free ships. And even a "universal" console is not going to put it in line.
I disagree. A 10 console ship is already superior to a free ship. So just by making a fleet variant (which will have a 10th console), it instantly is better than the free ships.
That's cool. I'm usually a supporter of more customization. So hey, if they can do it, then do it.
I'm not sure it's really that big a deal is it? There's so many different ship profiles these days that I just don't think it's really wort the effort to keep track. And as the lance is right now, is it really a huge impact weapon in PVP?
Does draw a big line that does little to no damage count?
I disagree. A 10 console ship is already superior to a free ship. So just by making a fleet variant (which will have a 10th console), it instantly is better than the free ships.
So a lt grade ship with 10 consoles would be superior to a VA/RA grade ship with 9 consoles?
Would you like to buy this jar, I swear it's liquid gold.
So a lt grade ship with 10 consoles would be superior to a VA/RA grade ship with 9 consoles?
Would you like to buy this jar, I swear it's liquid gold.
Oh come on. You know what I mean. The X will get the fleet treatment. Which will make it better than a free assault cruiser or star cruiser, the two free cruisers. And I guess you could even count the Galaxy Retro since it was "free" for a time.
Can they do more to the ship when making it a fleet variant? Sure.
Should they do more? Yeah, sure.
Will they do more? Eh, it's Geko and I gave up trying to figure him out ages ago.
But a fleet X will be better than the free Star Cruiser I got oh so many years ago.
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Now if it was updated:
Tier: 5/6 - perhaps the first in the line of lvl 60 ships...
Hull: 46,000 - a decent upgrade
Shield Modifier: 1.2 - a decent upgrade
Weapons: 4/4
Crew: 1000
Bridge officers: Com Tac + engineering, Lt. Com Science + engineering, Lt engineering, ensign Universal - two commander level slots, 2 lt. commander slots (a true battleship)
Device Slot: 3
Consoles: 4 Tac, 4 engineering, 2 science
Turn rate:10
Impulse Modifier: 0.25
Inertia: 25
Bonus Power: +10 Weapons, +5 all
Abilities: Battle cloak (console), Spinal Ultra-Heavy Cannon (integral), Weapon efficiency, attract Fire
-Can mount dual heavy cannons
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An interview with Rivera had him talking about their reworking the Gal-Dread, giving it access to saucer separation (after two years of it being already functional but lacking "good animation" or something), and giving that separation and the MVAE separation systems a rework to function like the Odyssey.
If it ends up having a permanent gun in place of the click-shoot ability then it'll be confirmation that the Dyson destroyer permanent gun is really the TRIBBLE child of the things on this forum said about what the Dreadnought needed.
If it ends up with the Scimitar boff layout that'll be confirmation of another claim that el'scimitar is the Gal-Dread's forum-ghost.
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And the ship should already be "fleet grade", none of this "Fleet module" (or 3-pack) business.
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Battle Cloak Console, Saucer Sep Console and Lance Weapon (Which when equipped, adds the 3rd Nacelle to the galaxy costume) = 3 Piece Set bonus. 5 forward weapon slots, 3 aft. Tac version comes with Lance Weapon, Science comes with Cloak, Eng comes with Saucer Sep.
Tac: 5 Tac consoles, 1 Sci, 4 Eng
Sci: 2 Tac Consoles, 4 Sci, 4 Eng
Eng: 3 Tac Consoles, 2 Sci, 5 Eng
Hey if we're gonna dream -- dream big.
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
This ship doesn't need to be revamped into 3-pack trash. It needs all the ideas that were used on other ships suggested for it to be included. "Scimitar" boff stations, Dyson permanent gun (for a nice 9/4 arrangement) - you know, useful things - on the ship people already have so that new people will go "I want that too."
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When it was first put into the game the cloak was built-in and the ship was worse than it is now.
The whole "oh look a cloak console" came from the tac. esc. retro package - neither needed a console, they just did it to make the KDF feel good about themselves.
When it comes down to it there's no reason why the Romulans and KDF get cloaking devices without consoles while the Federation needs to waste precious space on their end with them.
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It doesn't need to bother you, it's a matter of "consistent gameplay."
Romulan ships get a 10 point power deficit in favor of rather regular and powerful abilities. KDF ships get a cloak and, depending on class, better boff layouts.
Feds?
They get the most 3-packs.
Say no to drugs.
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(UFP) Ragnar
I know a player with the Dreadnought, they use it to haul cargo and crash into things. A lot of ships are lost, Starfleet deserves it.
I find your lack of faith disturbing. *masked breathing*
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My expectation:
Tier: Fleet-ish
Hull: 44,000
Shield Modifier: 1.1
Weapons: 4/4
Crew: 1000
Bridge officers: Lt Cmdr Tac, Ens Tac, Cmdr Eng, Lt Eng, Lt Universal
Device Slot: 4
Consoles: 5 Tac, 3 engineering, 2 science
Turn rate: 2
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
Inertia: 25
Bonus Power: +10 Weapons, +5 Engines, +5 Aux
Abilities: Cloak (console, not included), Spinal Lance/Cannon when saucer separated (integral)
-Can mount dual heavy cannons
- Weapon System Efficiency
- Attract Fire
- Carrier Commands
Includes a Type 11 Shuttlecraft with Dual Phaser Cannons and Photon Torpedos.
I didn't mean it having 8 consoles, I just meant since you want it to be like the Voth one that it would have a tac console moved to Engineering likey.
that's one tall order...
I'm sure it will just have the extra 10% hull and shields, 1 extra console station, and maybe just maybe the separation console will work with it.
yeah, but it needs CMDR Tac - CMDR eng powers in space combat are rather underwhelming.
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I based it on what they did with the Sovvie refit and the Armitage.
Would not be surprised if, like I say, phaser lance becomes a console.
Where does a Jupiter come into play?
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As long as he doesn't slap that TRIBBLE on my Galaxy-R, I'm good.
Typo right?
I'm sure you didn't seriously mean 2. :P
That's cool. I'm usually a supporter of more customization. So hey, if they can do it, then do it.
I'm not sure it's really that big a deal is it? There's so many different ship profiles these days that I just don't think it's really wort the effort to keep track. And as the lance is right now, is it really a huge impact weapon in PVP?
It they leave the lance in its current state they may as well leave the ship alone entirely.
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I disagree. A 10 console ship is already superior to a free ship. So just by making a fleet variant (which will have a 10th console), it instantly is better than the free ships.
Does draw a big line that does little to no damage count?
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So a lt grade ship with 10 consoles would be superior to a VA/RA grade ship with 9 consoles?
Would you like to buy this jar, I swear it's liquid gold.
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Heh. If the line is pretty to look at, I guess it might serve as a distraction?
Oh, a Gal-R with a hangar. How very "First time through the Wormhole" that would look. Complete with the ship getting destroyed.
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Oh come on. You know what I mean. The X will get the fleet treatment. Which will make it better than a free assault cruiser or star cruiser, the two free cruisers. And I guess you could even count the Galaxy Retro since it was "free" for a time.
Can they do more to the ship when making it a fleet variant? Sure.
Should they do more? Yeah, sure.
Will they do more? Eh, it's Geko and I gave up trying to figure him out ages ago.
But a fleet X will be better than the free Star Cruiser I got oh so many years ago.