Ah, assumptions. That I poke fun at Cryptic's treatment of the KDF automatically makes me a supporter of it, huh?
For the record, my point was that making the Gal-X into a clone of the Scimitar was a stupid idea. I don't want the Gal-X to come out as a 3-pack with absurd consoles - it should go in the fleet store, with +10% hull and an extra console, and you get a Fleet Module discount if you own the C-Store one.
Nothing else needs to be said. If it comes out as a C-Store three pack, I shall assume it's further proof that Cryptic are either desperate or downright greedy.
Well sometimes it's hard to tell sarcasm and things from text...I'm sorry :P
SO MANY greedy players it's hard to tell sometimes, I remember Fed Scimitar threads before the Scimitar was even released.
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Q: (ozy83) Please can we have the Fleet Galaxy X now? Its been in the works for almost a year and a half!
Dstahl: We would like to release this as soon as we can get saucer separation working for the Galaxy-X. As far as I know, that is really the only hold up.
From those links(last one redirects to the Arc STO homepage btw), there's no mention of the saucer sep/fleet version being the only features they'll update it with. Though fwiw, if there is a fleet version, there most likely won't be a 3-pack as some wish for, therefore no exclusive consoles or any more gadgets.
It would be nice if the Galaxy-X is beefed up to be on par with the playable Voth Dreadnought Cruiser though...
if it becomes a multi role vessel 3 pack, they have to decide what to do with the X already in game?
Will that one be upgraded and grandfathered into the pack? Will it stay seperate?
Will people who already bought the old X get a discount on getting the 2 other versions or will they pay 50k zen no matter what if they complete the collection?
Abilities I'd expect if there is a 3-pack:
saucer sep which turns the ship into a destroyer (not necessarily a commader tac one, but with a LC universal at least.)
From those links(last one redirects to the Arc STO homepage btw), there's no mention of the saucer sep/fleet version being the only features they'll update it with. Though fwiw, if there is a fleet version, there most likely won't be a 3-pack as some wish for, therefore no exclusive consoles or any more gadgets.
It would be nice if the Galaxy-X is beefed up to be on par with the playable Voth Dreadnought Cruiser though...
So in other words a huge buff? Just not as huge of a buff as the people wanting it to be a Starfleet Scimitar. I suppose you're willing to knock her down to two tac consoles as well?
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I really do not expect a 3-pack. I do expect it to go into the C-Store though - as a typical Fleet-quality ship like the Oddy, Vesta, etc.
I could even see them making a 2-pack out of it and the base Galaxy X: an RA version without Console and a newer-skinned VA version with the Saucer Separation Console.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I hope that there is a regular Galaxy skin option as well for whatever they do, it is probably one of the most iconic ST Ships after all.
Pretty sure there already is. Can't you Galaxy X owners use the Galaxy and Venture skins on your X now?
If so the same customization should hold true for any fleet versions, I'm guessing. Just like how the fleet assault cruiser can use all the different skins for that ship.
Pretty sure there already is. Can't you Galaxy X owners use the Galaxy and Venture skins on your X now?
If so the same customization should hold true for any fleet versions, I'm guessing. Just like how the fleet assault cruiser can use all the different skins for that ship.
Yeah...the default skin on the Gal-X is the Galaxy class skin...to my knowledge there is only the Galaxy and the Venture skin if you own the t4 refit.
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You suppose when saucer sep is active, the BO loadout changes?
Also, maybe an alternate hull texture unique to Galaxy ships?
It could be interesting to see "tactical mode" when the saucer comes off, but I really do not expect them to go to that much effort on the ship. It is a fairly decent ship even at RA. A Fleet-quality version would make it even better.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Pretty sure there already is. Can't you Galaxy X owners use the Galaxy and Venture skins on your X now?
If so the same customization should hold true for any fleet versions, I'm guessing. Just like how the fleet assault cruiser can use all the different skins for that ship.
I would like the Monarch, Celestial, and Envoy options.
Or maybe give the G-X an upgraded counterpart that unlocks a new costume for the Galaxy.
Yeah...the default skin on the Gal-X is the Galaxy class skin...to my knowledge there is only the Galaxy and the Venture skin if you own the t4 refit.
I think (I may be wrong, but here goes) that the poster wanted an Enterprise-D model appearance to be substitutable for the Galaxy-X ship loadouts/statistics...
Which I would love, but never expect to fly (so to speak). For a number of reasons, high on the list being 'wouldn't it suck in PvP to get Lanced by a ship that should have no Lance.'
Please reconsider ARC. Please make it optional, at the least. PLEASE.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
From those links(last one redirects to the Arc STO homepage btw), there's no mention of the saucer sep/fleet version being the only features they'll update it with. Though fwiw, if there is a fleet version, there most likely won't be a 3-pack as some wish for, therefore no exclusive consoles or any more gadgets.
It would be nice if the Galaxy-X is beefed up to be on par with the playable Voth Dreadnought Cruiser though...
My suspicion is that we're in for a new 3 pack.
They did a couple of 3 packs last year.
It would be a huge surprise if they also had a full on interior pack like the Defiant and TOS. They DO however have a few uniforms we haven't seen before like Kirk's Generations vest. I could see a couple of related C-Store entries this year based on late TNG/Generations. I'm surprised we haven't seen the Admiral Riker look yet but that would be a great little incentive if they decided to shake things up with a 2 pack.
Introduce a new Galaxy variant maybe in a 2 pack with Exploration and Dreadnought versions, upgraded consoles, and maybe an Admiral Riker/Eric Pressman jacket?
I expect a new item for sale. Maybe with upgraded consoles and new BO loadouts but cross compatible with the older versions.
I think (I may be wrong, but here goes) that the poster wanted an Enterprise-D model appearance to be substitutable for the Galaxy-X ship loadouts/statistics...
Which I would love, but never expect to fly (so to speak). For a number of reasons, high on the list being 'wouldn't it suck in PvP to get Lanced by a ship that should have no Lance.'
Oh well if that's the case then I don't see it happening, would be to confusing and the scenario you described is a perfect example.
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STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
So in other words a huge buff? Just not as huge of a buff as the people wanting it to be a Starfleet Scimitar. I suppose you're willing to knock her down to two tac consoles as well?
I don't see why consoles need to be removed. The Gal-X only has 9 to begin with - it can't afford to lose any IMO. This whole discussion is about the Gal-X gaining strength, I'm not sure why you're assuming someone wants it weaker in any aspect.
I don't see why consoles need to be removed. The Gal-X only has 9 to begin with - it can't afford to lose any IMO. This whole discussion is about the Gal-X gaining strength, I'm not sure why you're assuming someone wants it weaker in any aspect.
Well, the X would be coming with 2 special abilities: Saucer Separation and Cloaking. Something would need to give somewhere.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I would like the Monarch, Celestial, and Envoy options.
Let's try to encourage them to let us have Celestial and Envoy options for the Galaxy refit while we're at it. Those ship classes/skins need some love.
Well, the X would be coming with 2 special abilities: Saucer Separation and Cloaking. Something would need to give somewhere.
I don't see why anything has to 'give'. And for all we know, the Galaxy-X revamp wouldn't come with the saucer sep console. The Avenger doesn't come with a cloaking device, after all.
My best friend will be a very happy player when a fleet version eventually shows up.
Not really my cup of tea, I never liked the "let's add more stuff" approach they took with the design. It lacks the simple elegance I see in the Galaxy design (feel free to disagree, I know not everyone likes its looks).
The really sad part is that no matter what Cryptic does with the ship there will be people who complain it's not canon enough because it can't oneshot...well...practically everything.
And they will probably make threads with lots of caps and exclamation marks complaining that its a DREADNOUGHT!!!!!!!!
Well, the X would be coming with 2 special abilities: Saucer Separation and Cloaking. Something would need to give somewhere.
Well, it depends on whether this is a fleet ship or a new ship/ship pack that shares costumes.
I'm leaning towards a 10 console C-Store ship with a new costume. No actual upgrades to the existing G-X aside from maybe ability to use saucer sep. But you'll need to own the G-X to use the Galaxy skin on the new ship.
Let's try to encourage them to let us have Celestial and Envoy options for the Galaxy refit while we're at it. Those ship classes/skins need some love.
I don't see why anything has to 'give'. And for all we know, the Galaxy-X revamp wouldn't come with the saucer sep console. The Avenger doesn't come with a cloaking device, after all.
The X is not a Romulan ship. It is not going to get 10 Consoles, free Cloak, and free Saucer Sep. Most likely the Cloak will be a Console - that you can bring over from your existing X - and the Saucer Sep will be a Console. Thus if you want it all you are looking at an 8 Console ship left after that.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Ah, assumptions. That I poke fun at Cryptic's treatment of the KDF automatically makes me a supporter of it, huh?
For the record, my point was that making the Gal-X into a clone of the Scimitar was a stupid idea. I don't want the Gal-X to come out as a 3-pack with absurd consoles - it should go in the fleet store, with +10% hull and an extra console, and you get a Fleet Module discount if you own the C-Store one.
Nothing else needs to be said. If it comes out as a C-Store three pack, I shall assume it's further proof that Cryptic are either desperate or downright greedy.
Yeah cause it's not like its a free to play game and they need to make money
The X is not a Romulan ship. It is not going to get 10 Consoles, free Cloak, and free Saucer Sep. Most likely the Cloak will be a Console - that you can bring over from your existing X - and the Saucer Sep will be a Console. Thus if you want it all you are looking at an 8 Console ship left after that.
I can buy this.
My big thing is, I think if it was an upgrade to the fleetyards with a Dreadnought in there, it would have been announced via patchnotes.
The fact that they seem to be going the dev blog route says to me it's a C-Store ship.
Granted, the question then becomes what the C-Store ship's special console or gimmick is.
Wide angle photon? Alternate BO loadout when saucer sep'd? Omnidirectional phaser array?
Battle Cloak CONSOLE? (Maybe only usable on one ship?)
A new cruiser command unique to the new ship?
I agree we could be looking at something that will take 2 console slots up for saucer sep and cloak but that doesn't rule out new BO loadout, adjusted console assignments, different turnrate, or new gimmick also included.
And by the way in taped discussions geko. Already said he was toying with the idea of giving it a hanger bay 1 not 2 so don't get all excited
Well there we go. That's probably the gimmick then.
10 Console G-X. No cloak or saucer sep included (but both usable). Hangar bay. Probably with a gimmick shuttle/fighter included. Maybe a new hull texture.
This ship needs a lot more than 10% more hull and Shields and the extra console slot to even be competitive with the free ships. And even a "universal" console is not going to put it in line.
The X is not a Romulan ship. It is not going to get 10 Consoles, free Cloak, and free Saucer Sep. Most likely the Cloak will be a Console - that you can bring over from your existing X - and the Saucer Sep will be a Console. Thus if you want it all you are looking at an 8 Console ship left after that.
I imagine that if there is a fleet X in the future and if it did have saucer sep, it might be inate.
In all honesty:
I can see cryptic trying to make a 3 pack out of the X just for the money it would guaranteed to flow in.
I still believe that the only reason we have yet to see a Fleet X or an improved X is that cryptic is trying to figure out how to justify making us pay through the nose for it.
With all the hype and buzz that the mere mention of a Fleet level X generates I find it hard to believe that Cryptic would let it go for the cost of one Fleet Module
I imagine that if there is a fleet X in the future and if it did have saucer sep, it might be inate.
In all honesty:
I can see cryptic trying to make a 3 pack out of the X just for the money it would guaranteed to flow in.
I still believe that the only reason we have yet to see a Fleet X or an improved X is that cryptic is trying to figure out how to justify making us pay through the nose for it.
With all the hype and buzz that the mere mention of a Fleet level X generates I find it hard to believe that Cryptic would let it go for the cost of one Fleet Module
I think it will be in the C-Store. The Retro-Refit Galaxy Dreadnought with a Saucer Separation Console - which you can then also use your existing X Cloak Console on.
Maybe it will have a hanger - but Geko was only speculating about that in the Podcast.
Maybe the Cloak and Saucer Sep Consoles give a mini Set Bonus.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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SO MANY greedy players it's hard to tell sometimes, I remember Fed Scimitar threads before the Scimitar was even released.
It would be nice if the Galaxy-X is beefed up to be on par with the playable Voth Dreadnought Cruiser though...
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Will that one be upgraded and grandfathered into the pack? Will it stay seperate?
Will people who already bought the old X get a discount on getting the 2 other versions or will they pay 50k zen no matter what if they complete the collection?
Abilities I'd expect if there is a 3-pack:
saucer sep which turns the ship into a destroyer (not necessarily a commader tac one, but with a LC universal at least.)
battle cloak as a 3 piece set bonus.
the established lance gun.
10th console slot: 5/2/3, 4/3/3, 4/1/5
So in other words a huge buff? Just not as huge of a buff as the people wanting it to be a Starfleet Scimitar. I suppose you're willing to knock her down to two tac consoles as well?
I could even see them making a 2-pack out of it and the base Galaxy X: an RA version without Console and a newer-skinned VA version with the Saucer Separation Console.
Pretty sure there already is. Can't you Galaxy X owners use the Galaxy and Venture skins on your X now?
If so the same customization should hold true for any fleet versions, I'm guessing. Just like how the fleet assault cruiser can use all the different skins for that ship.
Yeah...the default skin on the Gal-X is the Galaxy class skin...to my knowledge there is only the Galaxy and the Venture skin if you own the t4 refit.
You suppose when saucer sep is active, the BO loadout changes?
Also, maybe an alternate hull texture unique to Galaxy ships?
I would like the Monarch, Celestial, and Envoy options.
Or maybe give the G-X an upgraded counterpart that unlocks a new costume for the Galaxy.
I think (I may be wrong, but here goes) that the poster wanted an Enterprise-D model appearance to be substitutable for the Galaxy-X ship loadouts/statistics...
Which I would love, but never expect to fly (so to speak). For a number of reasons, high on the list being 'wouldn't it suck in PvP to get Lanced by a ship that should have no Lance.'
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
My suspicion is that we're in for a new 3 pack.
They did a couple of 3 packs last year.
It would be a huge surprise if they also had a full on interior pack like the Defiant and TOS. They DO however have a few uniforms we haven't seen before like Kirk's Generations vest. I could see a couple of related C-Store entries this year based on late TNG/Generations. I'm surprised we haven't seen the Admiral Riker look yet but that would be a great little incentive if they decided to shake things up with a 2 pack.
Introduce a new Galaxy variant maybe in a 2 pack with Exploration and Dreadnought versions, upgraded consoles, and maybe an Admiral Riker/Eric Pressman jacket?
I expect a new item for sale. Maybe with upgraded consoles and new BO loadouts but cross compatible with the older versions.
Oh well if that's the case then I don't see it happening, would be to confusing and the scenario you described is a perfect example.
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I don't see why anything has to 'give'. And for all we know, the Galaxy-X revamp wouldn't come with the saucer sep console. The Avenger doesn't come with a cloaking device, after all.
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But......but ITS A DREADNAUGHT!!!!!!
Well, it depends on whether this is a fleet ship or a new ship/ship pack that shares costumes.
I'm leaning towards a 10 console C-Store ship with a new costume. No actual upgrades to the existing G-X aside from maybe ability to use saucer sep. But you'll need to own the G-X to use the Galaxy skin on the new ship.
Yeah cause it's not like its a free to play game and they need to make money
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I can buy this.
My big thing is, I think if it was an upgrade to the fleetyards with a Dreadnought in there, it would have been announced via patchnotes.
The fact that they seem to be going the dev blog route says to me it's a C-Store ship.
Granted, the question then becomes what the C-Store ship's special console or gimmick is.
Wide angle photon? Alternate BO loadout when saucer sep'd? Omnidirectional phaser array?
Battle Cloak CONSOLE? (Maybe only usable on one ship?)
A new cruiser command unique to the new ship?
I agree we could be looking at something that will take 2 console slots up for saucer sep and cloak but that doesn't rule out new BO loadout, adjusted console assignments, different turnrate, or new gimmick also included.
Well there we go. That's probably the gimmick then.
10 Console G-X. No cloak or saucer sep included (but both usable). Hangar bay. Probably with a gimmick shuttle/fighter included. Maybe a new hull texture.
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I imagine that if there is a fleet X in the future and if it did have saucer sep, it might be inate.
In all honesty:
I can see cryptic trying to make a 3 pack out of the X just for the money it would guaranteed to flow in.
I still believe that the only reason we have yet to see a Fleet X or an improved X is that cryptic is trying to figure out how to justify making us pay through the nose for it.
With all the hype and buzz that the mere mention of a Fleet level X generates I find it hard to believe that Cryptic would let it go for the cost of one Fleet Module
Maybe it will have a hanger - but Geko was only speculating about that in the Podcast.
Maybe the Cloak and Saucer Sep Consoles give a mini Set Bonus.