There is nothing wrong with Arc, I run it with no problem at all, it's no different to me then steam is. I am also running a med-range pc that is 3 years old.
So I am not seeing where all this hate for Arc is coming from.
"Hey look at me, I run Arc and it runs fine for me, therefore will run fine for you and therefore see no hate for Arc."
That's great OP. Why make a thread about it and not keep it to yourself? Lets be honest, we know why.
At the very least you could have posted on the still active Arc feedback forum.
Edit: Removed link as it is now merged with linked forum.
Retired. I'm now in search for that perfect space anomaly.
1- it's unnecessary and superfluous, because everything that it does can be accomplished better without it. all you need is the game launcher and a browser.
2- it does not run very well. the browser component alone is ridiculously slow and lacks several basic modern functions. the entire system is just clunky.
3- it's unnecessary, which is worth being listed twice because if you do want a client like this to run things, then other places (coughsteamcough) do a far better job with organization, performance/resources, versatility, and convenience. Not that steam doesn't also require an invenstment of one's soul, but at least there, you get far more bang for your metaphysical buck.
I keep my own system metrics up constantly on a second monitor, and adding up the various processes that both systems are running, steam and arc (at least on my system) use similar amounts of memory space, but arc uses 3-4 times the cpu and still doesn't run as well, despite being far less functional.
Most games currently come with patch facilities, often via launchers.
What is more fragmented - one such launcher/patcher tool in every game, or one launcher tool for every distributor or software company?
And considering the success of Steam - fragmentation might be vastly preferable over a monopoly.
The fragmentation ship has already sailed. All we can do now is try our best to circumscribe it/limit it's influence on gaming.
To answer your point about the launcher tools in games versus 1 launcher for every developer, I would pick the launcher tools any day over a full blown distribution software download. Why? Because arguably download tools for individual games tend to have smaller file sizes than a full distribution software tool. And if the download/patching tool for an individual game is larger than the average file size for distribution software (ubisoft trrashware, I'm looking at you), we as gamers shouldn't even bother playing those games.
In fact, I stopped buying Microsoft or ubisoft games because of the tremendously burdersome downloads and requirements of their bloatware. I will never buy a splintercell PC game again because the multiplayer in the last one I bought was broken and the DRM was so oppressive. I also abandoned origin because of it's browser requirement.
There is nothing wrong with Arc, I run it with no problem at all, it's no different to me then steam is. I am also running a med-range pc that is 3 years old.
So I am not seeing where all this hate for Arc is coming from.
Why do I need something running in the background, using my system resources while I play STO (sections of which are still so horribly unoptimized that many zones in the game chug at low frames per second even on high end hardware)? ARC adds NOTHING of worth for my STO play experience; and I for one am happy they haven't yet 100% forced ARC on STO players. The last thing I need on my system is ARC bloatware. YMMV.
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It's a crappy attempt by a publisher to lock you onto them, using additional resources on your computer with no upside. None. Absolutely no value, literally no benefit compared to what came before.
Contrast this with Steam, a DRM/marketing platform that the vast majority of gamers not only tolerate, but like. Why? It's not bound to publishers, it adds tools like the ability to take screen shots, has communication tools (forums, friend lists, markets, trading) that (once again) is not locked to a small segment, it now opens up the market to lots of smaller games (Greenlight?), it's cross-platform, it has an e-wallet that (once again) is not locked to a publisher, and they hold regular sales with ridiculous discounts.
Steam adds lots of value, none of the other DRM/marketing platforms do, and it has the least amount of restrictions for that value.
ARC is an attempt to lock you into only going through their store. It's the first step in a pipe dream to create their own little gaming monopoly. It will fail, but it'll TRIBBLE us over in the process.
It's also unneccessary because Steam is so much better, more inclusive, allows me to have friends from other games in other communities, allows me to combine my games into one place. I've been with steam since they forced Half-Life mods onto it way back. Let me tell ya I was NOT happy. I hated it, in fact. However, many many years of experience have proven that in the end it's a good product with a great idea. It's NOT bound by the studio's catalog, as mentioned.
As for others:
Origin is a poor attempt by a loathesome label (EA Games) to TRIBBLE folks over. Let's not forget the "scan the contents of the HDD and send the info back home" feature of the initial release, shall we? Okay, after a LONG delay (far too long) they removed or at least disabled that feature. However, EA is such an inhumane company, killing (literally killing, gutting, destroying) otherwise capable game dev companies, and they shouldn't be rewarded. They have oppressive DRM and lack any kind of accountability or customer service. Their influence has also turned DICE from a world-class dev team to an Amazon rain forrest slash-n-burn outfit.
Yuplay is just stupid. Evil, but stupid. It's an ADDED layer of DRM on top of existing layers (i.e. steam, game key authentication, etc), but on top of that it doesn't WORK 90% of the time! You can't trust it to let you into a game. It's a Russian company and their standards are TRIBBLE-poor. If the servers in Russia decide, you won't be able to play ANY yuplay game in their catalog simply because you can't update, check for updates, log in, actually launch the game even if you're logged in, and millions of other issues. It's a total debacle. I will NOT buy any game, EVER, that lists yuplay. Sorry Ubisoft, you're SOL. Wish I could experience FarCry3, but not going to happen if I have to suffer through that. They've even retrofit yuplay onto some older games, and the compatibility issues get worse the older the game is.
Steam: Steam is its own little thing. It started the big push to this "make your own storefront" type of launcher. The big difference? Valve isn't pushing mindless TRIBBLE down your throats all the time. They also offer you other options outside of valve's games. The main point is that Steam was built around the gaming needs of the times. There were third party server browsers, launchers, friends lists, IM chats, etc. All these things were used and widespread. Valve just incorporated them. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was made just for gamers, but they surely knew their audience and what kind of market they were looking to get into. All of the other johnny-come-lately knock-offs (ARC, Origin, etc) only see dollar signs and see it as a way of making things EXclusive. They failed to notice the only reason Steam is still around is that it's INclusive. Yes, steam has its problems (and lordy, boy did it have a ton of problems in those early years) but it has built in functionality that has earned it a solid reputation. That reputation IS NOT as a restrictive DRM layer to punish players. It's to help them. And, if along the way you want to buy a game, here's a store you can do it with. That's why all the others will fail. They don't look at it the same way. They just see dollar signs.
EDIT: Oh, and... GFWL was mentioned there. It was about as bad as yuplay, in that it was wholly unreliable and an ADDED layer of DRM on top of existing layers. It also forced you to save games on the cloud in most cases, but wiped the cloud weekly, thus resetting MANY games REPEATEDLY to the point that players stopped playing them en masse. GFWL actually closed a while back. It was that bad. They just shut down. No more server, nothing. A couple of games that used it modified themselves with a patch to bypass the entire GFWL checkin process, but a number were left out in the cold and are 100% unplayable now because of it. There's a reason GFWL shut down. It was unneccessary TRIBBLE.
It's not that there is nothing wrong with ARC but it's the being forced to use it.If I changed my PC and didnt have the original download link then I would have to use ARC or Steam, I have tried both and out of them both Steam is the better option and the main reason for that is I have other games on it that i play. Arc should remain optional for the guys who want to use it. If it ever becomes mandatoy then PWE and Cryptic will lose a lot of customers and even if they do not care about us gamers don't care for being treated like fools either and arc is not useful unless you play other PWE games so does nothing for the sTO experience
NO TO ARC
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I had to reinstall Arc, in order to reinstall Star Trek Online because I ran out of room on my portable device. But now when I click play for free on Arc, it won't start the installation of STO. Cryptic, please fix. You do want people to play STO don't you. Aaaaaahhh! :mad: This is a terrible bug to have.
Logged in to ARC, saw I had received a personal message! "Cool," said I to myself, "I wonder who that might be?"
So I read it. And it was a promotional plug for the 20% off ship sale.
Spam advertising masquerading as personal messages are not cool. And spam advertising for an event that I already see advertised every time I open the flippin' launcher is pointless as well as annoying.
When my Wingman got a new SSD for his PC, he decided to try ARC, just to see what it was all about.
He was so mad about how pointless it was.
I went to see it on his PC, and thought the same thing as he did.
So far, I'm glad I didn't ever HAVE to install ARC.
Thank you, Cryptic, for not forcing it on me.
If I ever HAD to install ARC to play STO, I probably would.
But... They would never see another dime from me.
For any of their games.
And if they're reading this, then they know how much money I've thrown at this game. Starting with my LTS back in open beta and over the years... yeah.
I'm not sure how much it is, exactly (and I don't want to).
But I know it's enough to make me nauseous.:(
Force me to use ARC, and I close my wallet to PWE as a whole. That's a promise.
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"Oh, I may be captain by rank... but I never wanted to be anything else but an engineer." ~Montgomery Scott~
Logged in to ARC, saw I had received a personal message! "Cool," said I to myself, "I wonder who that might be?"
So I read it. And it was a promotional plug for the 20% off ship sale.
Spam advertising masquerading as personal messages are not cool. And spam advertising for an event that I already see advertised every time I open the flippin' launcher is pointless as well as annoying.
(You want feedback? That's feedback.)
Thats all Arc is a shameless marketing tool that does nothing for gameplay as it just launches the launcher.
NO TO ARC
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Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
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If I have multiple games with a company a launcher of this type makes sense, as since I only play STO with cryptic I dont need it, or want it, its a waste of valuable hard drive space thats better used for downloading tribble TRIBBLE. If it gets forced down throats in an attempt to 'encourage' people to look at all your 'awesome' titles...you will find that people would be more interested in finding a game company that wouldnt.
Secondly I know steam has a great system, but we dont need 10 million clones.
Logged in to ARC, saw I had received a personal message! "Cool," said I to myself, "I wonder who that might be?"
So I read it. And it was a promotional plug for the 20% off ship sale.
Spam advertising masquerading as personal messages are not cool. And spam advertising for an event that I already see advertised every time I open the flippin' launcher is pointless as well as annoying.
(You want feedback? That's feedback.)
More fatuous, pointless marketing spam in my inbox today. I think I may have to complain about it in this thread every time it happens. That way, at least the people who have to read these posts will get as annoyed as I am.
(Seriously. Unsolicited marketing messages annoy people. At least give us an opt-out button so we don't have to deal with this garbage unless we want to.)
Ads everywhere! Ads everywhere!! Hail capitalism! )
Is really anoying to get spammed by a player but i think is more anoying to get spammed by the system...
Personaly i don't like the arc client, i don't see the point to run 2 launchers just to play the game... But i accepted it when they stuffed it to my throat 'cuz it was more convenient.
Now they started to buzz me around everywhere i turn my head with sales for ships that are going to become outdated when the DR hits the holodeck?? Plus they said "t5 ships are going to be just upgraded, we are not going to trow them away!" A few time ago: "we present our new idea: new tier for ships! t6 and we gives you the ****ty oportunity to upgrade your t5 to t5-u!" just they are much more useless than the t6!:))
greed, greed and greed again!
PS1: I'm waiting for the crowd of people who are going to say that "this is a free game and they have to make money somehow" )
PS2: is not trolling or flamming! is just a point of view, my point of view!
do you really PWE really reads this and cares what we think?
they care only about money and they know that we are not going to quit this game just 'cuz we need to run it with arc client...
irony activated: yes i think they really care about us and they will give us free cookies and rabbits to have a rabbit fight and to get fat from to much sugar )
they care only about money and they know that we are not going to quit this game just 'cuz we need to run it with arc client...
irony activated: yes i think they really care about us and they will give us free cookies and rabbits to have a rabbit fight and to get fat from to much sugar )
If they remove this game of Steam I will be walking just spent some time away from this game and don't even feel the need to log on so STO withdrawal is not going to be a problem for me
NO TO ARC
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I have been reading about ARC, and how there loving the idea of making us use it. It is such a brilliant idea, to make a game become extremely popular, and then come up with something that is likely going to ruin it. I do not understand why you have to spoil a good thing. If the idea of making this software is to make our lives easier, why bother? Did we ask you to do this? Were you getting complaints from customers BEGGING you to implement something like ARC? please. we arent stupid.
it would be interesting to see do a poll on the popularity of ARC. Just to see how popular of an idea it is.
Btw, I had a look at the program, for some reason, ARC didnt work on my pc properly. It gave the option quite clearly as to whether or not I wanted to share my system information so that is something I like. It is hard for some of us to not be skeptical about things. Im the kind of person that watches what my kid does on the computer very closely. He tells me not to worry about this but hes the kind of person that just clicks on accept and never bothers to read what he is accepting and if something goes wrong, im the one that is responsible for it.
What happened to the free gifts for Arc users? Last one was the Khan outfit (I think) so long ago I've forgotten when, feels like the promise of the odd little freebie now and then was a false one just to get users to install the client itself!
I'm a lifer installed ARC and because all I get is spam mail I am removing it own the game it has a launcher ." shove it up....... where the sun doesn't shine "
I haven't come across this information on the English website!! Whats going on??
Is PWE shortchanging the rest of us?? Are we not eligible for these rewards as well?? :mad:
I haven't come across this information on the English website!! Whats going on??
Is PWE shortchanging the rest of us?? Are we not eligible for these rewards as well?? :mad:
It's for Germany and France only it seems... not sure about the other languages or if it applies to the UK/Ireland.
Please take a look and let us know what you think. You can post feedback here in this thread, or follow the feedback instructions listed in the blog.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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Did you seriously write this expecting positive feedback from the community?
I would rather you spent your time and resources on more important things, like better customer service (and tools to support them so they do not blow you off and ask you to file a bug report for everything or send them screenshots as proof). You could also fix some of the bugs that have been in this game since beta. Seriously. I left for three years and I came back to some of the same bugs in this game. Just laughable. And tragic.
Star Citizen is looking better and better all the time.
They listen to the players input.
They fix their bugs.
They don't force spyware launchers on their customers.
Yes, it does cost to buy the game, but it costs to play sto too.
I like star trek, but I can get into a new space game.
I used to subscribe to STO, on a monthly basis. Thought I should pay a little to play as nothing is free. But then you told me I would be forced to use ARC, so I went FTP to watch and see what would truely happen.
I don't like grinding. The game is getting worse and worse for that.
You hold a carrot out there, (level to 60, get all skill points, and you'll get dil ore for skill points rewards one day). Then when we get close to reaching it you change the rules. Lucy pulling the ball on Charlie Brown in a cartoon was funny. This ain't funny.
Do you know what you want to do with the game, other than make money? A product has to serve a purpose, supply a need. Entertainment. You think all these petty changes in mid stream are making us happy? Or mad? You read any positive letters in this thread about ARC? I didn't.
It'd be nice to see a game addition just once, where you offer new things, make a promise , and KEEP IT.
And you wonder why people are wary of ARC? Because no one TRUSTS you to do what you say you will. Why should we? Why should I spend 125$ to buy your DR pack, (especially prior to launch of DR) when I know you will change the effectiveness of the ships or weapons included, eventually.
I see though your management is knot-headed. You will implement this change, and when you do, I will find something else to entertain me. And it will be sad.
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This.
And that if I want to play a game, I want to run the game, not a launcher.
"Hey look at me, I run Arc and it runs fine for me, therefore will run fine for you and therefore see no hate for Arc."
That's great OP. Why make a thread about it and not keep it to yourself? Lets be honest, we know why.
At the very least you could have posted on the still active Arc feedback forum.
Edit: Removed link as it is now merged with linked forum.
1- it's unnecessary and superfluous, because everything that it does can be accomplished better without it. all you need is the game launcher and a browser.
2- it does not run very well. the browser component alone is ridiculously slow and lacks several basic modern functions. the entire system is just clunky.
3- it's unnecessary, which is worth being listed twice because if you do want a client like this to run things, then other places (coughsteamcough) do a far better job with organization, performance/resources, versatility, and convenience. Not that steam doesn't also require an invenstment of one's soul, but at least there, you get far more bang for your metaphysical buck.
I keep my own system metrics up constantly on a second monitor, and adding up the various processes that both systems are running, steam and arc (at least on my system) use similar amounts of memory space, but arc uses 3-4 times the cpu and still doesn't run as well, despite being far less functional.
The fragmentation ship has already sailed. All we can do now is try our best to circumscribe it/limit it's influence on gaming.
To answer your point about the launcher tools in games versus 1 launcher for every developer, I would pick the launcher tools any day over a full blown distribution software download. Why? Because arguably download tools for individual games tend to have smaller file sizes than a full distribution software tool. And if the download/patching tool for an individual game is larger than the average file size for distribution software (ubisoft trrashware, I'm looking at you), we as gamers shouldn't even bother playing those games.
In fact, I stopped buying Microsoft or ubisoft games because of the tremendously burdersome downloads and requirements of their bloatware. I will never buy a splintercell PC game again because the multiplayer in the last one I bought was broken and the DRM was so oppressive. I also abandoned origin because of it's browser requirement.
Why do I need something running in the background, using my system resources while I play STO (sections of which are still so horribly unoptimized that many zones in the game chug at low frames per second even on high end hardware)? ARC adds NOTHING of worth for my STO play experience; and I for one am happy they haven't yet 100% forced ARC on STO players. The last thing I need on my system is ARC bloatware. YMMV.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
It's a crappy attempt by a publisher to lock you onto them, using additional resources on your computer with no upside. None. Absolutely no value, literally no benefit compared to what came before.
Contrast this with Steam, a DRM/marketing platform that the vast majority of gamers not only tolerate, but like. Why? It's not bound to publishers, it adds tools like the ability to take screen shots, has communication tools (forums, friend lists, markets, trading) that (once again) is not locked to a small segment, it now opens up the market to lots of smaller games (Greenlight?), it's cross-platform, it has an e-wallet that (once again) is not locked to a publisher, and they hold regular sales with ridiculous discounts.
Steam adds lots of value, none of the other DRM/marketing platforms do, and it has the least amount of restrictions for that value.
It's also unneccessary because Steam is so much better, more inclusive, allows me to have friends from other games in other communities, allows me to combine my games into one place. I've been with steam since they forced Half-Life mods onto it way back. Let me tell ya I was NOT happy. I hated it, in fact. However, many many years of experience have proven that in the end it's a good product with a great idea. It's NOT bound by the studio's catalog, as mentioned.
As for others:
Origin is a poor attempt by a loathesome label (EA Games) to TRIBBLE folks over. Let's not forget the "scan the contents of the HDD and send the info back home" feature of the initial release, shall we? Okay, after a LONG delay (far too long) they removed or at least disabled that feature. However, EA is such an inhumane company, killing (literally killing, gutting, destroying) otherwise capable game dev companies, and they shouldn't be rewarded. They have oppressive DRM and lack any kind of accountability or customer service. Their influence has also turned DICE from a world-class dev team to an Amazon rain forrest slash-n-burn outfit.
Yuplay is just stupid. Evil, but stupid. It's an ADDED layer of DRM on top of existing layers (i.e. steam, game key authentication, etc), but on top of that it doesn't WORK 90% of the time! You can't trust it to let you into a game. It's a Russian company and their standards are TRIBBLE-poor. If the servers in Russia decide, you won't be able to play ANY yuplay game in their catalog simply because you can't update, check for updates, log in, actually launch the game even if you're logged in, and millions of other issues. It's a total debacle. I will NOT buy any game, EVER, that lists yuplay. Sorry Ubisoft, you're SOL. Wish I could experience FarCry3, but not going to happen if I have to suffer through that. They've even retrofit yuplay onto some older games, and the compatibility issues get worse the older the game is.
Steam: Steam is its own little thing. It started the big push to this "make your own storefront" type of launcher. The big difference? Valve isn't pushing mindless TRIBBLE down your throats all the time. They also offer you other options outside of valve's games. The main point is that Steam was built around the gaming needs of the times. There were third party server browsers, launchers, friends lists, IM chats, etc. All these things were used and widespread. Valve just incorporated them. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was made just for gamers, but they surely knew their audience and what kind of market they were looking to get into. All of the other johnny-come-lately knock-offs (ARC, Origin, etc) only see dollar signs and see it as a way of making things EXclusive. They failed to notice the only reason Steam is still around is that it's INclusive. Yes, steam has its problems (and lordy, boy did it have a ton of problems in those early years) but it has built in functionality that has earned it a solid reputation. That reputation IS NOT as a restrictive DRM layer to punish players. It's to help them. And, if along the way you want to buy a game, here's a store you can do it with. That's why all the others will fail. They don't look at it the same way. They just see dollar signs.
EDIT: Oh, and... GFWL was mentioned there. It was about as bad as yuplay, in that it was wholly unreliable and an ADDED layer of DRM on top of existing layers. It also forced you to save games on the cloud in most cases, but wiped the cloud weekly, thus resetting MANY games REPEATEDLY to the point that players stopped playing them en masse. GFWL actually closed a while back. It was that bad. They just shut down. No more server, nothing. A couple of games that used it modified themselves with a patch to bypass the entire GFWL checkin process, but a number were left out in the cold and are 100% unplayable now because of it. There's a reason GFWL shut down. It was unneccessary TRIBBLE.
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
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So I read it. And it was a promotional plug for the 20% off ship sale.
Spam advertising masquerading as personal messages are not cool. And spam advertising for an event that I already see advertised every time I open the flippin' launcher is pointless as well as annoying.
(You want feedback? That's feedback.)
He was so mad about how pointless it was.
I went to see it on his PC, and thought the same thing as he did.
So far, I'm glad I didn't ever HAVE to install ARC.
Thank you, Cryptic, for not forcing it on me.
If I ever HAD to install ARC to play STO, I probably would.
But... They would never see another dime from me.
For any of their games.
And if they're reading this, then they know how much money I've thrown at this game. Starting with my LTS back in open beta and over the years... yeah.
I'm not sure how much it is, exactly (and I don't want to).
But I know it's enough to make me nauseous.:(
Force me to use ARC, and I close my wallet to PWE as a whole. That's a promise.
It's me, Chrome. [Join Date: May 2009]
"Oh, I may be captain by rank... but I never wanted to be anything else but an engineer." ~Montgomery Scott~
Thats all Arc is a shameless marketing tool that does nothing for gameplay as it just launches the launcher.
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Secondly I know steam has a great system, but we dont need 10 million clones.
(Seriously. Unsolicited marketing messages annoy people. At least give us an opt-out button so we don't have to deal with this garbage unless we want to.)
Is really anoying to get spammed by a player but i think is more anoying to get spammed by the system...
Personaly i don't like the arc client, i don't see the point to run 2 launchers just to play the game... But i accepted it when they stuffed it to my throat 'cuz it was more convenient.
Now they started to buzz me around everywhere i turn my head with sales for ships that are going to become outdated when the DR hits the holodeck?? Plus they said "t5 ships are going to be just upgraded, we are not going to trow them away!" A few time ago: "we present our new idea: new tier for ships! t6 and we gives you the ****ty oportunity to upgrade your t5 to t5-u!" just they are much more useless than the t6!:))
greed, greed and greed again!
PS1: I'm waiting for the crowd of people who are going to say that "this is a free game and they have to make money somehow"
PS2: is not trolling or flamming! is just a point of view, my point of view!
they care only about money and they know that we are not going to quit this game just 'cuz we need to run it with arc client...
irony activated: yes i think they really care about us and they will give us free cookies and rabbits to have a rabbit fight and to get fat from to much sugar
If they remove this game of Steam I will be walking just spent some time away from this game and don't even feel the need to log on so STO withdrawal is not going to be a problem for me
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Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Btw, I had a look at the program, for some reason, ARC didnt work on my pc properly. It gave the option quite clearly as to whether or not I wanted to share my system information so that is something I like. It is hard for some of us to not be skeptical about things. Im the kind of person that watches what my kid does on the computer very closely. He tells me not to worry about this but hes the kind of person that just clicks on accept and never bothers to read what he is accepting and if something goes wrong, im the one that is responsible for it.
http://www.arcgames.com/de/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010443
I haven't come across this information on the English website!! Whats going on??
Is PWE shortchanging the rest of us?? Are we not eligible for these rewards as well?? :mad:
You Will be Assimilated.
Assimilation is the Key to Happiness.
It's for Germany and France only it seems... not sure about the other languages or if it applies to the UK/Ireland.
sorry for not knowing but what is it used for?
is it something like steam?
(was moving my sto folder between computers now and then)
Did you seriously write this expecting positive feedback from the community?
I would rather you spent your time and resources on more important things, like better customer service (and tools to support them so they do not blow you off and ask you to file a bug report for everything or send them screenshots as proof). You could also fix some of the bugs that have been in this game since beta. Seriously. I left for three years and I came back to some of the same bugs in this game. Just laughable. And tragic.
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They listen to the players input.
They fix their bugs.
They don't force spyware launchers on their customers.
Yes, it does cost to buy the game, but it costs to play sto too.
I like star trek, but I can get into a new space game.
I used to subscribe to STO, on a monthly basis. Thought I should pay a little to play as nothing is free. But then you told me I would be forced to use ARC, so I went FTP to watch and see what would truely happen.
I don't like grinding. The game is getting worse and worse for that.
You hold a carrot out there, (level to 60, get all skill points, and you'll get dil ore for skill points rewards one day). Then when we get close to reaching it you change the rules. Lucy pulling the ball on Charlie Brown in a cartoon was funny. This ain't funny.
Do you know what you want to do with the game, other than make money? A product has to serve a purpose, supply a need. Entertainment. You think all these petty changes in mid stream are making us happy? Or mad? You read any positive letters in this thread about ARC? I didn't.
It'd be nice to see a game addition just once, where you offer new things, make a promise , and KEEP IT.
And you wonder why people are wary of ARC? Because no one TRUSTS you to do what you say you will. Why should we? Why should I spend 125$ to buy your DR pack, (especially prior to launch of DR) when I know you will change the effectiveness of the ships or weapons included, eventually.
I see though your management is knot-headed. You will implement this change, and when you do, I will find something else to entertain me. And it will be sad.