Been watching more of the Vids. One thing I'm kinda surprised at is that people don't have a way to clear the Jam Sensors.. I'd have half expected them to maybe have a Sci team or something...
You think that your beta test was bad?
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Been watching more of the Vids. One thing I'm kinda surprised at is that people don't have a way to clear the Jam Sensors.. I'd have half expected them to maybe have a Sci team or something...
In any case, its something I usually look for, before hitting Jam Sensors.
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I haven't really noticed it my self.. At least not in the Vids I've seen with your fights so far. Haven't seen them all how ever. Not to mention I can understand the reasons to not use Sci team since it'll put tac team on cool down. But it can help against the jams when your trying to use it to get yourself into position for a kill or attack run. At least that is my take on it.
And thanks for making the vids btw, it gives me something to watch when I feel like walking away from the computer after a long day infront of it working at home.
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trying to figure out where the good fun is......all i see is cloak run cloak run. this is not true 1v1 fighting. please show a vid with you in a ship that cant cloak. i would love to see how well you do.
Been watching more of the Vids. One thing I'm kinda surprised at is that people don't have a way to clear the Jam Sensors.. I'd have half expected them to maybe have a Sci team or something...
reason the jam is so bad is because of use of fleet consumables. a person with 6 in sencors will get 10 sec jam due to the fleet thing that boost sci related powers.
EXAMPLE, person a has 6 in sencors
player b has the fleet boost aux and spec.
player a gets a jam as if no spec at all
reason the jam is so bad is because of use of fleet consumables. a person with 6 in sencors will get 10 sec jam due to the fleet thing that boost sci related powers.
EXAMPLE, person a has 6 in sencors
player b has the fleet boost aux and spec.
player a gets a jam as if no spec at all
I did not say having or using Jam was Bad. I said I was surprised that no one had a counter in the vids he showed to Jam. The counter being Science Team. :rolleyes:
You think that your beta test was bad?
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trying to figure out where the good fun is......all i see is cloak run cloak run. this is not true 1v1 fighting. please show a vid with you in a ship that cant cloak. i would love to see how well you do.
He only uses his cloak to retreat when under heavy fire, if he is able to. He doesn't start the match cloaked and ambush. :rolleyes:
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I did not say having or using Jam was Bad. I said I was surprised that no one had a counter in the vids he showed to Jam. The counter being Science Team. :rolleyes:
right maybe you miss understood my point. your a long time player, think about player spec.
every escourt has 6 in sencors and 6 in aux. why sencors? jam, ams, ss ect. it clears thoes things in about 5 secs. its not so bad. thats countering peoples spec on use of ss, jam, ams.
the problem is in these matches if you notice is the fleet boost. engy,sci tact. he is boosting all sci stats with +8. its the main reason you need a sci team in these 1v1. its causing jam to be 10 secs long in duration. other wise its around 5 secs or a bit less. and thats assuming player spec into jam.
no 1 really expects going into 1v1 the cloak and run and use of fleet boost. remember when the devs said fleet boost will not work in pvp........... and if your going to use a sci team in 1v1 on a bug perhaps maybe use a different ship like the mvam. putting sci team on a bug in 1v1 is giving up a bit much. and using something just to counter jam is not really good. between the cloak and run/hide heal, to t4 nuke rep that does not need aux or player spec is a bit much. better off with ph to counter tb so you can tt up and get back your defence.
now i dont agree with no holds barred duels. for me, just doesnt sit right. but for him, and the players he battles....that is definitely the one constant i notice.
dius understands windows of offense vs windows of defense. on top of that he has the most powerful ship in the game with tons of goodies vs the ships he is fighting.
i'm toying around with a side project to fight this sort of layout....kinda.
hey dius, i'll come at you in a week or 2. my playtime sucks right now...but...hopefully i can build something to give you a run for your money no holds barred 1v1 style.
Adjusting power on the fly is why my first match with him lasted as long as it did.
Or do as I did, and drain all his powers to my own.. so i run with all powerlevels at maximum all the time..
Just for an update, after i defeated Dius he has changed his build, so in our last fight he beat me again... :P
But I challenge you again Dius, and get your TRIBBLE online again, so i can beat you again.
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right maybe you miss understood my point. your a long time player, think about player spec.
every escourt has 6 in sencors and 6 in aux. why sencors? jam, ams, ss ect. it clears thoes things in about 5 secs. its not so bad. thats countering peoples spec on use of ss, jam, ams.
the problem is in these matches if you notice is the fleet boost. engy,sci tact. he is boosting all sci stats with +8. its the main reason you need a sci team in these 1v1. its causing jam to be 10 secs long in duration. other wise its around 5 secs or a bit less. and thats assuming player spec into jam.
no 1 really expects going into 1v1 the cloak and run and use of fleet boost. remember when the devs said fleet boost will not work in pvp........... and if your going to use a sci team in 1v1 on a bug perhaps maybe use a different ship like the mvam. putting sci team on a bug in 1v1 is giving up a bit much. and using something just to counter jam is not really good. between the cloak and run/hide heal, to t4 nuke rep that does not need aux or player spec is a bit much. better off with ph to counter tb so you can tt up and get back your defence.
I'm not disagreeing with this. I was just making an observation, while watching a couple of the ships he faught would get just toasted when he'd Jam, TB, and then Alpha Strike them. PH + Sci team would let them manuever out of his Arc. If it's a Cruiser, you could use Aux to Damp like he's doing. Even a couple Sci ships would allow for a similar stratigy. Escorts of course might have some difficulty, but it's possible/plausable depending on how the build works and the spec avaliable on the escort you choose to fly against him.
Important thing to remember is that you ask him for the PVP, you take what you can get. He does no holds Barred, anything goes. So try to bring your best, he'll do the same. And also try to have fun, right?
You think that your beta test was bad?
Think about this: American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Just using specific "taboo" abiltites won't make your ship godlike, what it comes down to is skill plain and simple.
You might argue that cloaking removes skill, but in all honestly if you can't keep him from cloaking then your ship is at fault, his ship is working as he intended and whilst your ship might not be geared to fight his ship specifically, you still have to use discretion.
What I'm trying to say is Take your time! if you take your time and carefully manipulate your power levels in conjunction with skill usage you might see an exponential increase in your ships performance in ALL areas
Instead of just hitting abilities as soon as they come off cool down, watch your opposition try to find a pattern and exploit any weakness in their cycling.
I can almost say with 100% certainty that Dius is watching your abilities, If he sees you've used EPTS he won't alpha you because it'll reduce his odds of Vaping you.
I will agree that using fleet boosts is a bit overkill, but hey everything goes.
Dius has a thread here available for everyone to see, use it to your advantage.
Just using specific "taboo" abiltites won't make your ship godlike, what it comes down to is skill plain and simple.
You might argue that cloaking removes skill, but in all honestly if you can't keep him from cloaking then your ship is at fault, his ship is working as he intended and whilst your ship might not be geared to fight his ship specifically, you still have to use discretion.
What I'm trying to say is Take your time! if you take your time and carefully manipulate your power levels in conjunction with skill usage you might see an exponential increase in your ships performance in ALL areas
Instead of just hitting abilities as soon as they come off cool down, watch your opposition try to find a pattern and exploit any weakness in their cycling.
I can almost say with 100% certainty that Dius is watching your abilities, If he sees you've used EPTS he won't alpha you because it'll reduce his odds of Vaping you.
I will agree that using fleet boosts is a bit overkill, but hey everything goes.
Dius has a thread here available for everyone to see, use it to your advantage.
if he is watching buffs hes not doing it right, also epts is 100% up time so that makes no sense. he does disro sheilds, very basic. but also he is missing another very simple basic thing. notice how he sticks in reverse. i see no throttle control. what everyone should be doing is throttle control. full foward full reverse. =100% defense (mostly) its just as important as distro sheilds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ftyrRQxnY8 thats an example of throttle control. and if i was playing every day it would show a bit better. but people get the point which matters.
From looking at all of them its just a omg he alphaed run cloak so I don't take damage... ok it wore off now to go back and fight ugg he alphaed run cloak kind of reminds me of old talon jones!
From looking at all of them its just a omg he alphaed run cloak so I don't take damage... ok it wore off now to go back and fight ugg he alphaed run cloak kind of reminds me of old talon jones!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! well he did post a glory vid of killing you. i really do think the point of this whole topic is( "hey look at me!!!!!!!!! im so awesome with this cheese i use)
really tho every time i say dog fighting he shows world of planes like that means anything. clearly this person has no skill cause if he did he would show vids of real classic sto dog fighting. escourts that dont cloak, run out of 10km and use real form of skills. truth is anyone can use the cloak and hide.
either way this no holds bars is just pure zzzzzzz but im told this is the new direction players in sto are going. so really im not missing much. i stoped pvp'ing 2 months before this new dyson TRIBBLE came out. i really dont plan on coming back.
Yea i was the first one to run into that placate running jam cloaking ship. i will say this he is the best one at doing it but in a team that ship is not so good my ship i was using was team ship and does ok in 1vs1s against non runners but vs runners it cant keep up.
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Good Channel, id like to see more Videos open for comment, ill link this channel and subscribe!
Id also like to 1v1 you some time in my bug ship (no restrictions etc...) I am like hannibal in the same respect that i like dogfighting escorts but I'm always up for a challenege!
I wouldn't sweat this kid. I have seen way better pilots back in the old days. I have some ground toons available for a 1 on 1 wanna go? You won't be able to macro or script a ground 1 on 1 so I doubt this will get any response! And if you play a tact and want to use operative go for it you will be dead before you can run away and cloak I can promise you that!
I wouldn't sweat this kid. I have seen way better pilots back in the old days. I have some ground toons available for a 1 on 1 wanna go? You won't be able to macro or script a ground 1 on 1 so I doubt this will get any response! And if you play a tact and want to use operative go for it you will be dead before you can run away and cloak I can promise you that!
Avast, thar!
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I wouldn't sweat this kid. I have seen way better pilots back in the old days. I have some ground toons available for a 1 on 1 wanna go? You won't be able to macro or script a ground 1 on 1 so I doubt this will get any response! And if you play a tact and want to use operative go for it you will be dead before you can run away and cloak I can promise you that!
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I think most people rely on the WCE Doff (Debuff cleanse variant) now days in use with EPTX.
In any case, its something I usually look for, before hitting Jam Sensors.
D,
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I haven't really noticed it my self.. At least not in the Vids I've seen with your fights so far. Haven't seen them all how ever. Not to mention I can understand the reasons to not use Sci team since it'll put tac team on cool down. But it can help against the jams when your trying to use it to get yourself into position for a kill or attack run. At least that is my take on it.
And thanks for making the vids btw, it gives me something to watch when I feel like walking away from the computer after a long day infront of it working at home.
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Veruslsrael Vs Dius
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trying to figure out where the good fun is......all i see is cloak run cloak run. this is not true 1v1 fighting. please show a vid with you in a ship that cant cloak. i would love to see how well you do.
reason the jam is so bad is because of use of fleet consumables. a person with 6 in sencors will get 10 sec jam due to the fleet thing that boost sci related powers.
EXAMPLE, person a has 6 in sencors
player b has the fleet boost aux and spec.
player a gets a jam as if no spec at all
I did not say having or using Jam was Bad. I said I was surprised that no one had a counter in the vids he showed to Jam. The counter being Science Team. :rolleyes:
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
He only uses his cloak to retreat when under heavy fire, if he is able to. He doesn't start the match cloaked and ambush. :rolleyes:
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
right maybe you miss understood my point. your a long time player, think about player spec.
every escourt has 6 in sencors and 6 in aux. why sencors? jam, ams, ss ect. it clears thoes things in about 5 secs. its not so bad. thats countering peoples spec on use of ss, jam, ams.
the problem is in these matches if you notice is the fleet boost. engy,sci tact. he is boosting all sci stats with +8. its the main reason you need a sci team in these 1v1. its causing jam to be 10 secs long in duration. other wise its around 5 secs or a bit less. and thats assuming player spec into jam.
no 1 really expects going into 1v1 the cloak and run and use of fleet boost. remember when the devs said fleet boost will not work in pvp........... and if your going to use a sci team in 1v1 on a bug perhaps maybe use a different ship like the mvam. putting sci team on a bug in 1v1 is giving up a bit much. and using something just to counter jam is not really good. between the cloak and run/hide heal, to t4 nuke rep that does not need aux or player spec is a bit much. better off with ph to counter tb so you can tt up and get back your defence.
point blank:
you do not switch power level focuses enough.
he does, and he is good at it.
now i dont agree with no holds barred duels. for me, just doesnt sit right. but for him, and the players he battles....that is definitely the one constant i notice.
dius understands windows of offense vs windows of defense. on top of that he has the most powerful ship in the game with tons of goodies vs the ships he is fighting.
i'm toying around with a side project to fight this sort of layout....kinda.
hey dius, i'll come at you in a week or 2. my playtime sucks right now...but...hopefully i can build something to give you a run for your money no holds barred 1v1 style.
have fun kill bad guys
Or do as I did, and drain all his powers to my own.. so i run with all powerlevels at maximum all the time..
Just for an update, after i defeated Dius he has changed his build, so in our last fight he beat me again... :P
But I challenge you again Dius, and get your TRIBBLE online again, so i can beat you again.
priceless!
R.I.P
I'm not disagreeing with this. I was just making an observation, while watching a couple of the ships he faught would get just toasted when he'd Jam, TB, and then Alpha Strike them. PH + Sci team would let them manuever out of his Arc. If it's a Cruiser, you could use Aux to Damp like he's doing. Even a couple Sci ships would allow for a similar stratigy. Escorts of course might have some difficulty, but it's possible/plausable depending on how the build works and the spec avaliable on the escort you choose to fly against him.
Important thing to remember is that you ask him for the PVP, you take what you can get. He does no holds Barred, anything goes. So try to bring your best, he'll do the same. And also try to have fun, right?
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
You might argue that cloaking removes skill, but in all honestly if you can't keep him from cloaking then your ship is at fault, his ship is working as he intended and whilst your ship might not be geared to fight his ship specifically, you still have to use discretion.
What I'm trying to say is Take your time! if you take your time and carefully manipulate your power levels in conjunction with skill usage you might see an exponential increase in your ships performance in ALL areas
Instead of just hitting abilities as soon as they come off cool down, watch your opposition try to find a pattern and exploit any weakness in their cycling.
I can almost say with 100% certainty that Dius is watching your abilities, If he sees you've used EPTS he won't alpha you because it'll reduce his odds of Vaping you.
I will agree that using fleet boosts is a bit overkill, but hey everything goes.
Dius has a thread here available for everyone to see, use it to your advantage.
I like dogfights
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ftyrRQxnY8 thats an example of throttle control. and if i was playing every day it would show a bit better. but people get the point which matters.
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! well he did post a glory vid of killing you. i really do think the point of this whole topic is( "hey look at me!!!!!!!!! im so awesome with this cheese i use)
really tho every time i say dog fighting he shows world of planes like that means anything. clearly this person has no skill cause if he did he would show vids of real classic sto dog fighting. escourts that dont cloak, run out of 10km and use real form of skills. truth is anyone can use the cloak and hide.
either way this no holds bars is just pure zzzzzzz but im told this is the new direction players in sto are going. so really im not missing much. i stoped pvp'ing 2 months before this new dyson TRIBBLE came out. i really dont plan on coming back.
Megan Vs Dius
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Id also like to 1v1 you some time in my bug ship (no restrictions etc...) I am like hannibal in the same respect that i like dogfighting escorts but I'm always up for a challenege!
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Avast, thar!
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