I don't. To me it comes across as a little bitter and irrational.
there is nothing bitter or irrational about his statement, or the way it was communicated.
some just see all gloves off 1v1 a bit of a funnel.
have the best ship with the newest tricks... or..... play with a gents agreement.
both are valid avenues for 1v1, dius has proven there is an audience for that.
personally, ive found the best matches, and pilots, with those who understand the curve of the game. those who wish to challenge their piloting, and not curtail to the fotm.
if i wanted i could redo my ship to give better resist and win against you every time. but why would i do that? going against that type of play style in 1v1 is just not fun.
Hey Marcello.
Gf my friend.
Wow you registered an account just for me, am touched bro.
If / when your ship is ready. Let me know mate...
there is nothing bitter or irrational about his statement, or the way it was communicated.
some just see all gloves off 1v1 a bit of a funnel.
have the best ship with the newest tricks... or..... play with a gents agreement.
both are valid avenues for 1v1, dius has proven there is an audience for that.
personally, ive found the best matches, and pilots, with those who understand the curve of the game. those who wish to challenge their piloting, and not curtail to the fotm.
have fun kill bad guys
I can understand your point of view, even if I will never participate in it.
It would appear you now understand mine. So ty for that.
I can understand your point of view, even if I will never participate in it.
It would appear you now understand mine. So ty for that.
Nite all.
D,
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I have read all your posts man, it just seems to me that you have trouble coping with the game it self.
All game changes, if its positive or negative, is up to each and everyone of us to adapt and make it positive instead of negative.
Dius and many other players explore the new features, and makes awesome builds, and wants to challenge themselves and their builds by doing a 1vs1 challenge fight. They embrace the changes and make it positive.
So to you and everyone else that complains about "broken game" or "broken pvp", please stop. You live in the past, yes at one time your build was "teh roxx" but the game has changed, so instead of the complaining about broken game, learn to adapt and have fun.
ps. I get decloaked alphastriked to death by "broken bop's" all the time, so there are players tha has made awesome bop builds, maybe you should search them out and ask them to teach you how to make a decent build. Hey! Maybe you can find other players that you can play with and explore builds? make more friends instead of complaining about broken this, and broken that?
*A little story*
I noticed this thread, and challenged Dius in a first to 5 win 1vs1 challenge. I faught him for almost 25min and managed to get the upper hand early in the fight, cause i had a build that was something he never had experience with. He also had no tactics that could counter my tactics at the time. After the fight, we talked, shared ideas and we basicly became good friends. The next day he owned me in kerrat, because he had taken his experience and made an even better build than he had before, and he now knew how to adapt to my "silly build". And I did the same the next day after. :P
What i'm saying is that. instead of the constant whinage after a loss in this game, ask your oponent how he did what he did, so you can learn.. I am sure if you pm'ed your oponent and say: "dude that was awesome, how did you do it" i will almost assure you that they will point you in the right direction.
"Better were the days when mastery o' space came not from bargains struck with eldritch creatures... but from the sweat of a man's brow and the strength of his back alone. Ye all know thi's to be true!"
Well not sure how you came to that opinion given my posts in this thread.
Actually I re-read them and an overarching message I was sending was just to test the waters for this group of people who like to 1v1.
I actually never vilified anyone. Or made myself out to be "the roxx" or whatever you said.
After 4 years in the game I've seen so much stuff none of it really bothers me anymore.
Dius and I seem to have an understanding based on the short banter we shared in his thread, so I will not contribute to further derail it as I think I may have.
Heck man I think some communication may have been mixed somewhere back there.
I only know @broken1981, I want trying to speak for him in any way. Hell, I'm not even sure what was said between you two after your match. But he did notice that I posted on your thread ant asked me to link his vid. Which I would do for anyone. Silly kid got his privileges yanked for some reason idunno.
I lose 1v1's here and there. Not often. But it does happen. And I use them as learning experiences. Hell, I'd even challenge you in my current layout if I thought it had a shot. But it's all raw cannons and no cloak no frills kind of thing. Something speedy for arenas.
I even posted what I thought I would run though.
I think I was taken the wrong way somehow. I was just looking for more people to play against but I don't go in for matches using certain things that I personally think ruin a 1v1.
But as we agreed upon a page ago, to each his own. I'm sorry you havnt had any 1v1's in the past day. Maybe you got thru a bit more than you thought of the dueling player base. Maybe people are theory crafting against your build right now!!!!
Anyways the only reason I'm responding again is I feel like my attitude towards the game and you guys is being misinterpreted, or I said something to miscommunicate somewhere.
Again. After 4 years of seeing people come and go, not much bothers me these days. It never "is what it is" .... "It is what you make of it"
You didnt use quote tags correctly when replying to Dius, and then torach read it as your post since it wasnt in a quote block. Scroll up and edit.
Yeah, I might of missunderstood his posts, but in my last post i also ment many people in general.
To anyone that reads this, if I manage to blow you up in pvp, instead of boasting some slander in zonechat in kerrat about broken game, try figure out my tactics, see if you can counter them. When someone right down runs me over and i dont understand how they did it.. i ask them, and compliment their build. Those people are very interessting to play against.
"Better were the days when mastery o' space came not from bargains struck with eldritch creatures... but from the sweat of a man's brow and the strength of his back alone. Ye all know thi's to be true!"
the sense of a 1v1 is not decloaking, alphastriking and then escaping and cloaking up again but fighting in an open fight in which escorts keep their distance within 10km without using cloak in this range, scramble pets or whatever else.
u cannot consider this as a 1v1. the only thing u do is making use of a guerilla or "hit and run" tactics.
Our last fight was a good one i really enjoyed it but the only thing that annoyed me were neither the pets nor placate nor the singularity jumper, it was ur escape out of range and ur perma cloaking after returning the fire. most of the match u were cloaked and not involved in combat.
MY sense of a 1v1 is not decloaking, alphastriking and then escaping and cloaking up again but fighting in an open fight in which escorts keep their distance within 10km without using cloak in this range, scramble pets or whatever else. I DO NOT consider this as a 1v1. the only thing u do is making use of a guerilla or "hit and run" tactics.
Our last fight was a good one i really enjoyed it but the only thing that annoyed me were neither the pets nor placate nor the singularity jumper, it was ur escape out of range and ur perma cloaking after returning the fire. most of the match u were cloaked and not involved in combat.
regards Hannibal
Hey Hannible,
Nice to see you in here my friend.
You are someone I do know, respect, an consider to be one of the best players in the game atm.
I don't mean to be rude mate, but we have covered this particular topic:
dius no need to troll my YouTube account. first off you talk about good attitude????
look at your remark in the vid. "lolbug" what did you even mean about that? also you talk about not dumbing down your ship for others. you did that all ready mate. cloak, t4 placate, use of nimbus, phonetic displacement.
think im not watching what goes on in a match? and look at your vid as well you came close to getting killed often but your use of cloak helped you ALOT in that match. you think a bug has no down sides? in this day and age of sto it does. a semi has so many upsides and no down sides. heck you dont even drop sheilds in cloak. that helps alot as well since you got regen and sheild healing working for you.
i think i made it clear i go by a gents agreement. im a very old school player mate. and again i should not need to make a ship dedicated just to take on yours. its nothing against you. i just dont enjoy fights like that.
all im saying is i measure a good player if they can take any ship and build and make it work. if all you can do is cloak and win well.........if you can win using cloak and with out cloak then i have to say your a good player. most players today only know how to cloak and use t4. they cant use anything else.
the people that i like to 1v1 will always be yoda, he is the master at this game. hank hannible (even tho i dont agree with epte and epts) cat horizon and many others. they understand true dog fighting in 1v1. remember 1v1 is a ring. no running away no cloaking. just true skills.
im sure ive made it clear on my youtube channel that gf, im not crying. i have a different out look on 1v1. and that you are correct in saying devs put it in game so use it. hey if thats the type of players you chose to fight and other feel the same by all means then. but again thats not fun to me. its a build that just lacks skill. also i told you how you cant even guard against t4.
really you cant say you build takes skill to use. not when im placated most of the match. and you do understand how to cycle jam and cloak in between the t4 proc.
i think i made it clear i go by a gents agreement. im a very old school player mate. and again i should not need to make a ship dedicated just to take on yours. its nothing against you. i just dont enjoy fights like that.
Then what are you doing here in this thread Marcello
You talk a lot but don't really say much, of anything...
Please answer me this:
1/ Did we agree to any sort of rules before the match started Y/N?
2/ Who challenged who?
3/ Who lost?
You are someone I do know, respect, an consider to be one of the best players in the game atm.
I don't mean to be rude mate, but we have covered this particular topic:
Page #11
Post #107
My position is, was & always will be as above^^
D,
ah ok i see, yea you are right we didnt arrange any rules or other restrictions in this match and i admit that i havent read your personal conditions for a 1 on 1 with no restrictions so it is fine man
I am just used to another type of 1v1 since i have been doing this for more than a year (season 6) by now.
At that time there didnt exist all the romulans and the new ships. But at least u make it fair and allow everyone to use verything in 1v1.
thx for the compliment I appreciate that , but i have to say you have improved ALOT after i fought you last time so this is quite remarkable ^^.
well i see that your attitude is just insane. like i said i figured your a 1v1'er which most times people just play with out cheese most of the time. you keep with this link of planes. yes this is sto and in 1v1 we dog fight. sure you won but never out played me. a better people would have killed me with in 3 secs every time which you could not have. my reist is under 28%. sorry you dropped the ball with that decloak.
sorry but i have a habbit of not clicking links. maybe type what you mean.
but ill end this with what can you do with a ship that cant cloak? can you survive?? cause i can make a build to beat yours with out cloaking as well as cloaking. i can make a build in every class. the question is can you?
ah ok i see, yea you are right we didnt arrange any rules or other restrictions in this match and i admit that i havent read your personal conditions for a 1 on 1 with no restrictions so it is fine man
I am just used to another type of 1v1 since i have been doing this for more than a year (season 6) by now.
I was in beta and played as KDF for the first 8 months after release. So I do understand ALL these different points of view mate.
We are just well past STO release date is all. Ship variety, as well as build variant has changed greatly from those early days.
Doff's
Uni Consoles
Romulans
I have all but given up on restricting game play for myself or my opponent, for what ever reason... Its to much hassle. And not in keeping with this ever evolving game.
I just want my PvP challenges to reflect those changes as well. And by the same token, keep changing coz Cryptic appear to be pushing content at the moment like crazy...
I guess another big reason is Ker'rat is my playground... There are no restrictions in there which is what appeals to me.
"I was in beta and played as KDF for the first 8 months after release. So I do understand ALL these different points of view mate.
We are just well past STO release date is all. Ship variety, as well as build variant has changed greatly from those early days.
Doff's
Uni Consoles
Romulans
I have all but given up on restricting game play for myself or my opponent, for what ever reason... Its to much hassle. And not in keeping with this ever evolving game.
I just want my PvP challenges to reflect those changes as well. And by the same token, keep changing coz Cryptic appear to be pushing content at the moment like crazy...
I guess another big reason is Ker'rat is my playground... There are no restrictions in there which is what appeals to me.
Again, thank you for the complement.
D,"
i just want to let you know i understand your pos on this. others in my fleet thought like this about ground pvp.
even tho i agree with you on this i dont want to ever play like that. you seen what happened to the kdf pvp pops. the pvp community is getting smaller as it is. i understand you a bit more after you talked about karret. its why the majority of players stay away from there. we all came up with arena and c&h. so its really just 2 different play types.
karret is a no holds bar type of play. arena 1v1 is more geared with skilled fighting or fair play. this is why when i seen you had a bunch of 1v1 vids i figured you came up with arena 1v1 play style.
my attitude and several others figure if its broken or bad game mechanic we will not fight each other with it. over the years we lost many good players in this game due to the way players abuse the TRIBBLE cryptic put into this game. maybe the community will grow due to the new players that accept what cryptic puts into this game. who knows.
at this point in the game i will not even do dyson rep. im tired of the grind. sure my build is out dated. it still works but none the less..........with what cryptic puts into this game roms will far out class builds like mine. im still vanilla. my critd will never reach the 160 mark like others can get. my build stays standard. and really if i want to compete im forced into "the better gear"
my skill spec. 4rcs with build in neut. 4 tact consoles and leech in the 5th.
its stupid that in sto you need to be a rom. you need to be in a semi. and if its not a cloak set up its a rom in a bug ship. i miss the old defaint v bop days. so yes old school player holding on to the old school train of thought
You "need" to be a rom? I haver to dissagree with you there. I'm a "regular" Alien Federation character. And I manage to do fairly well against anyone, even romulan characters in Scimitars.
Imo this game is about 40% (know how to build ships), 20%(Having good gear), 40% (Flight skill). So basicly meaning 80% is about knowing the game and actually get good at flying your boat.
For comparison, give a player that has played for 2 weeks access to the gest gear available, and give a veteran pvp'er access to xi blue gear, there is a chance that the veteran player would build a better ship, and fly better than the 2 weekold, and most likely beat him.
And sometimes, just maybe perhaps you might come across someone that is better than you, in either his build, or flightskill. I have met several players that are waaaay better than me, and i want to fight them all, so i can get better myself.
But, you say you missed the old days, when it was defiant vs bop, then for sure you should of gotten some flight experience then`? Then I ask you, how come you positioned yourself in front of the scimitar basicly all the time? As a "seasoned pvp'er, you really should know flying a fast/turnrated ship is all about getting behind your target and stay there. Atleast when you are fighting a slow "whale" like the scimitar...
"Better were the days when mastery o' space came not from bargains struck with eldritch creatures... but from the sweat of a man's brow and the strength of his back alone. Ye all know thi's to be true!"
hey torach, 2 players of equal skill the edge comes into play. trust me im not a noob. i understand this game more then others. with all the hours me and my fleet have put into testing..........its really a shame my fleet left this game. we did compete against teh top fleets in ths game.
Imo this game is about 40% (know how to build ships), 20%(Having good gear), 40% (Flight skill). So basicly meaning 80% is about knowing the game and actually get good at flying your boat.
This is true, gear gives you the edge but only if you know how to use it its full potential.
And sometimes, just maybe perhaps you might come across someone that is better than you, in either his build, or flightskill. I have met several players that are waaaay better than me, and i want to fight them all, so i can get better myself.
And this is the only right attitude if one wants to improve himself.
I can say I am no longer a noob but I still have so much to learn, especially when it comes to properly positioning while in a fast ship. The only way to do that is to go out there and repeatedly die trying
As the player in post 11 and 136, I would like to wiegh in. Dius is a good pvp player hence why I would fight him. So what if he beat me and how he beat me. Is cloking annoying yeah but it is in the game so I don't understand why you guys have to dog on him and other people who use it. He has a killer combo, which I could nit counter nor did I have a kill shot. But I learned my weakness in that build.
People need to stop screaming cheese and nerf because you decide to rage quit instead of learning to play and adapt. Go make a build outfit it and learn to fly.
"Frankly, not sure why you're on a one man nerf campaign. "
When the roms first came out I was hitting the ques like CRAZY, I only returned back to the game in March of this year....
Yourself as well as a couple of others in the que Jogi-R - BAR - KAX - Tlora to mention a just a few...
Really stood out as individual players and, dare I say this - A different level to the norm.
Players that could change the way a match was going...
I still remember (have nightmares) of the match we had before our last. Think we were in:
Dehlan Vs Daeinos Destroyer
Suffice to say I got WTF-PWND lol
But 'You will only ever get better, by fighting a better opponent.'
Which you proved to be...
I was in beta and played as KDF for the first 8 months after release. So I do understand ALL these different points of view mate.
We are just well past STO release date is all. Ship variety, as well as build variant has changed greatly from those early days.
Doff's
Uni Consoles
Romulans
I have all but given up on restricting game play for myself or my opponent, for what ever reason... Its to much hassle. And not in keeping with this ever evolving game.
I just want my PvP challenges to reflect those changes as well. And by the same token, keep changing coz Cryptic appear to be pushing content at the moment like crazy...
I guess another big reason is Ker'rat is my playground... There are no restrictions in there which is what appeals to me.
Again, thank you for the complement.
D,
lol yw yea i remember this fight but i have to say you were a little bit disadvantaged since you were only capable of utilizing 9 console slots as opposed to the dhelan being a fleet ship and having 10 slots available. So you will do definetely better in a scimitar .
ok i see yea this seems to be a good attitude what you wanna show pvpers in today's 1v1, it has become definetely more difficult to determine restrictions/ rules in 1v1 since each pvper has another imagination of which a set of rukles should be composed in single player pvp^^.
I also didnt know that you have been playing since beta and that you took a break for a while, i began playing sto in the end of season 5 i think, last year in july so u are in business a little bit longer than me^^ but i havent taken a longer break so far like you did.
ok i no longer want to spam your thread, so i wish you fun fighting evil and arrogant guys lol
PS: if you arrange 2v2 matches you can count me in if you like :P
This is RAW pvp. You fight with whatever tools you have available. Sure certain setups could be seen as cheesy, or "unfair"
Instead of QQing about it though take it as an opportunity to improve your own playstyle. Adapt and overcome, instead of crying and breaking down.
Always be gracious in defeat and come back and kick his TRIBBLE later so you can claim the glory as your own,
As for 2v2's Id really be interested in that, how well would Dius's build stack up in a team setting
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Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
there is nothing bitter or irrational about his statement, or the way it was communicated.
some just see all gloves off 1v1 a bit of a funnel.
have the best ship with the newest tricks... or..... play with a gents agreement.
both are valid avenues for 1v1, dius has proven there is an audience for that.
personally, ive found the best matches, and pilots, with those who understand the curve of the game. those who wish to challenge their piloting, and not curtail to the fotm.
have fun kill bad guys
I think you mean you didn't find it bitter or irrational. I can break it down for you, to be more specific in my analysis, if you like.
Have you ever played Lemmings?
Nah j/k fella, but thanks for your input =P
Hey Marcello.
Gf my friend.
Wow you registered an account just for me, am touched bro.
If / when your ship is ready. Let me know mate...
I'm pleased you enjoyed them bud.
If you would like, I could make a separate post re my PC spec?
I can understand your point of view, even if I will never participate in it.
It would appear you now understand mine. So ty for that.
Nite all.
D,
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Nah, it's cool. I'm refering to how my TV makes the HD videos look.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
It would appear you now understand mine. So ty for that.
Nite all.
D,[/QUOTE]
aye sir.
aye sir.[/QUOTE]
I have read all your posts man, it just seems to me that you have trouble coping with the game it self.
All game changes, if its positive or negative, is up to each and everyone of us to adapt and make it positive instead of negative.
Dius and many other players explore the new features, and makes awesome builds, and wants to challenge themselves and their builds by doing a 1vs1 challenge fight. They embrace the changes and make it positive.
So to you and everyone else that complains about "broken game" or "broken pvp", please stop. You live in the past, yes at one time your build was "teh roxx" but the game has changed, so instead of the complaining about broken game, learn to adapt and have fun.
ps. I get decloaked alphastriked to death by "broken bop's" all the time, so there are players tha has made awesome bop builds, maybe you should search them out and ask them to teach you how to make a decent build. Hey! Maybe you can find other players that you can play with and explore builds? make more friends instead of complaining about broken this, and broken that?
*A little story*
I noticed this thread, and challenged Dius in a first to 5 win 1vs1 challenge. I faught him for almost 25min and managed to get the upper hand early in the fight, cause i had a build that was something he never had experience with. He also had no tactics that could counter my tactics at the time. After the fight, we talked, shared ideas and we basicly became good friends. The next day he owned me in kerrat, because he had taken his experience and made an even better build than he had before, and he now knew how to adapt to my "silly build". And I did the same the next day after. :P
What i'm saying is that. instead of the constant whinage after a loss in this game, ask your oponent how he did what he did, so you can learn.. I am sure if you pm'ed your oponent and say: "dude that was awesome, how did you do it" i will almost assure you that they will point you in the right direction.
Actually I re-read them and an overarching message I was sending was just to test the waters for this group of people who like to 1v1.
I actually never vilified anyone. Or made myself out to be "the roxx" or whatever you said.
After 4 years in the game I've seen so much stuff none of it really bothers me anymore.
Dius and I seem to have an understanding based on the short banter we shared in his thread, so I will not contribute to further derail it as I think I may have.
Have fun kill bad guys.
I just haven't had any 1v1's since, Marcello is all bud.
In any case. You had what you & others considered to be, a valid point you wanted to get across. And you have done that mate.
In doing so, you highlighted one of the issues I believe is problematic within PvP, from the start to present day...
Peoples attitudes towards losing.
It's only a negative experience if you choose for it to be so.
Just like I & others, choose for it to be a learning experience. One that personally I can watch over and over again in my vids, then adapt to.
I'm a firm believer in - "You cant see the whole picture, while standing in the frame."
Sometimes, if not all the time...
Its beneficial to consider a different prospective.
D,
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I only know @broken1981, I want trying to speak for him in any way. Hell, I'm not even sure what was said between you two after your match. But he did notice that I posted on your thread ant asked me to link his vid. Which I would do for anyone. Silly kid got his privileges yanked for some reason idunno.
I lose 1v1's here and there. Not often. But it does happen. And I use them as learning experiences. Hell, I'd even challenge you in my current layout if I thought it had a shot. But it's all raw cannons and no cloak no frills kind of thing. Something speedy for arenas.
I even posted what I thought I would run though.
I think I was taken the wrong way somehow. I was just looking for more people to play against but I don't go in for matches using certain things that I personally think ruin a 1v1.
But as we agreed upon a page ago, to each his own. I'm sorry you havnt had any 1v1's in the past day. Maybe you got thru a bit more than you thought of the dueling player base. Maybe people are theory crafting against your build right now!!!!
Anyways the only reason I'm responding again is I feel like my attitude towards the game and you guys is being misinterpreted, or I said something to miscommunicate somewhere.
Again. After 4 years of seeing people come and go, not much bothers me these days. It never "is what it is" .... "It is what you make of it"
Good luck dius.
Have fun kill bad guys.
Yeah, I might of missunderstood his posts, but in my last post i also ment many people in general.
To anyone that reads this, if I manage to blow you up in pvp, instead of boasting some slander in zonechat in kerrat about broken game, try figure out my tactics, see if you can counter them. When someone right down runs me over and i dont understand how they did it.. i ask them, and compliment their build. Those people are very interessting to play against.
the sense of a 1v1 is not decloaking, alphastriking and then escaping and cloaking up again but fighting in an open fight in which escorts keep their distance within 10km without using cloak in this range, scramble pets or whatever else.
u cannot consider this as a 1v1. the only thing u do is making use of a guerilla or "hit and run" tactics.
Our last fight was a good one i really enjoyed it but the only thing that annoyed me were neither the pets nor placate nor the singularity jumper, it was ur escape out of range and ur perma cloaking after returning the fire. most of the match u were cloaked and not involved in combat.
regards Hannibal
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
Hey Hannible,
Nice to see you in here my friend.
You are someone I do know, respect, an consider to be one of the best players in the game atm.
I don't mean to be rude mate, but we have covered this particular topic:
Page #11
Post #107
My position is, was & always will be as above^^
D,
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Haj'ee Vs Dius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNU85tbC8Eo
Read zone chat - a good player with great attitude.
And a Rematch.
Gf mate.
D,
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dius no need to troll my YouTube account. first off you talk about good attitude????
look at your remark in the vid. "lolbug" what did you even mean about that? also you talk about not dumbing down your ship for others. you did that all ready mate. cloak, t4 placate, use of nimbus, phonetic displacement.
think im not watching what goes on in a match? and look at your vid as well you came close to getting killed often but your use of cloak helped you ALOT in that match. you think a bug has no down sides? in this day and age of sto it does. a semi has so many upsides and no down sides. heck you dont even drop sheilds in cloak. that helps alot as well since you got regen and sheild healing working for you.
i think i made it clear i go by a gents agreement. im a very old school player mate. and again i should not need to make a ship dedicated just to take on yours. its nothing against you. i just dont enjoy fights like that.
all im saying is i measure a good player if they can take any ship and build and make it work. if all you can do is cloak and win well.........if you can win using cloak and with out cloak then i have to say your a good player. most players today only know how to cloak and use t4. they cant use anything else.
the people that i like to 1v1 will always be yoda, he is the master at this game. hank hannible (even tho i dont agree with epte and epts) cat horizon and many others. they understand true dog fighting in 1v1. remember 1v1 is a ring. no running away no cloaking. just true skills.
im sure ive made it clear on my youtube channel that gf, im not crying. i have a different out look on 1v1. and that you are correct in saying devs put it in game so use it. hey if thats the type of players you chose to fight and other feel the same by all means then. but again thats not fun to me. its a build that just lacks skill. also i told you how you cant even guard against t4.
really you cant say you build takes skill to use. not when im placated most of the match. and you do understand how to cycle jam and cloak in between the t4 proc.
Then what are you doing here in this thread Marcello
You talk a lot but don't really say much, of anything...
Please answer me this:
1/ Did we agree to any sort of rules before the match started Y/N?
2/ Who challenged who?
3/ Who lost?
As for:
Click >>World of War Planes
Unfortunately, this is Star Trek Online fella =P
And in STO I can use cloak. I can also use Pets... I think you remember the rest lol
Gf mate
21st December 2013: #3
Marcello Vs Dius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHQLyp8V4Y4&feature=youtu.be
You said so yourself at its end...
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ah ok i see, yea you are right we didnt arrange any rules or other restrictions in this match and i admit that i havent read your personal conditions for a 1 on 1 with no restrictions so it is fine man
I am just used to another type of 1v1 since i have been doing this for more than a year (season 6) by now.
At that time there didnt exist all the romulans and the new ships. But at least u make it fair and allow everyone to use verything in 1v1.
thx for the compliment I appreciate that
have fun pvping other guys.
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sorry but i have a habbit of not clicking links. maybe type what you mean.
but ill end this with what can you do with a ship that cant cloak? can you survive?? cause i can make a build to beat yours with out cloaking as well as cloaking. i can make a build in every class. the question is can you?
Thank you my friend, I do appreciate that also.
When the roms first came out I was hitting the ques like CRAZY, I only returned back to the game in March of this year....
Yourself as well as a couple of others in the que Jogi-R - BAR - KAX - Tlora to mention a just a few...
Really stood out as individual players and, dare I say this - A different level to the norm.
Players that could change the way a match was going...
I still remember (have nightmares) of the match we had before our last. Think we were in:
Dehlan Vs Daeinos Destroyer
Suffice to say I got WTF-PWND lol
But 'You will only ever get better, by fighting a better opponent.'
Which you proved to be...
I was in beta and played as KDF for the first 8 months after release. So I do understand ALL these different points of view mate.
We are just well past STO release date is all. Ship variety, as well as build variant has changed greatly from those early days.
Doff's
Uni Consoles
Romulans
I have all but given up on restricting game play for myself or my opponent, for what ever reason... Its to much hassle. And not in keeping with this ever evolving game.
I just want my PvP challenges to reflect those changes as well. And by the same token, keep changing coz Cryptic appear to be pushing content at the moment like crazy...
I guess another big reason is Ker'rat is my playground... There are no restrictions in there which is what appeals to me.
Again, thank you for the complement.
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We are just well past STO release date is all. Ship variety, as well as build variant has changed greatly from those early days.
Doff's
Uni Consoles
Romulans
I have all but given up on restricting game play for myself or my opponent, for what ever reason... Its to much hassle. And not in keeping with this ever evolving game.
I just want my PvP challenges to reflect those changes as well. And by the same token, keep changing coz Cryptic appear to be pushing content at the moment like crazy...
I guess another big reason is Ker'rat is my playground... There are no restrictions in there which is what appeals to me.
Again, thank you for the complement.
D,"
i just want to let you know i understand your pos on this. others in my fleet thought like this about ground pvp.
even tho i agree with you on this i dont want to ever play like that. you seen what happened to the kdf pvp pops. the pvp community is getting smaller as it is. i understand you a bit more after you talked about karret. its why the majority of players stay away from there. we all came up with arena and c&h. so its really just 2 different play types.
karret is a no holds bar type of play. arena 1v1 is more geared with skilled fighting or fair play. this is why when i seen you had a bunch of 1v1 vids i figured you came up with arena 1v1 play style.
my attitude and several others figure if its broken or bad game mechanic we will not fight each other with it. over the years we lost many good players in this game due to the way players abuse the TRIBBLE cryptic put into this game. maybe the community will grow due to the new players that accept what cryptic puts into this game. who knows.
at this point in the game i will not even do dyson rep. im tired of the grind. sure my build is out dated. it still works but none the less..........with what cryptic puts into this game roms will far out class builds like mine. im still vanilla. my critd will never reach the 160 mark like others can get. my build stays standard. and really if i want to compete im forced into "the better gear"
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=myjem123456_0
my skill spec. 4rcs with build in neut. 4 tact consoles and leech in the 5th.
its stupid that in sto you need to be a rom. you need to be in a semi. and if its not a cloak set up its a rom in a bug ship. i miss the old defaint v bop days. so yes old school player holding on to the old school train of thought
Imo this game is about 40% (know how to build ships), 20%(Having good gear), 40% (Flight skill). So basicly meaning 80% is about knowing the game and actually get good at flying your boat.
For comparison, give a player that has played for 2 weeks access to the gest gear available, and give a veteran pvp'er access to xi blue gear, there is a chance that the veteran player would build a better ship, and fly better than the 2 weekold, and most likely beat him.
And sometimes, just maybe perhaps you might come across someone that is better than you, in either his build, or flightskill. I have met several players that are waaaay better than me, and i want to fight them all, so i can get better myself.
But, you say you missed the old days, when it was defiant vs bop, then for sure you should of gotten some flight experience then`? Then I ask you, how come you positioned yourself in front of the scimitar basicly all the time? As a "seasoned pvp'er, you really should know flying a fast/turnrated ship is all about getting behind your target and stay there. Atleast when you are fighting a slow "whale" like the scimitar...
This is true, gear gives you the edge but only if you know how to use it its full potential.
And this is the only right attitude if one wants to improve himself.
I can say I am no longer a noob but I still have so much to learn, especially when it comes to properly positioning while in a fast ship. The only way to do that is to go out there and repeatedly die trying
People need to stop screaming cheese and nerf because you decide to rage quit instead of learning to play and adapt. Go make a build outfit it and learn to fly.
lol yw
ok i see yea this seems to be a good attitude what you wanna show pvpers in today's 1v1, it has become definetely more difficult to determine restrictions/ rules in 1v1 since each pvper has another imagination of which a set of rukles should be composed in single player pvp^^.
I also didnt know that you have been playing since beta and that you took a break for a while, i began playing sto in the end of season 5 i think, last year in july so u are in business a little bit longer than me^^ but i havent taken a longer break so far like you did.
ok i no longer want to spam your thread, so i wish you fun fighting evil and arrogant guys lol
PS: if you arrange 2v2 matches you can count me in if you like :P
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Instead of QQing about it though take it as an opportunity to improve your own playstyle. Adapt and overcome, instead of crying and breaking down.
Always be gracious in defeat and come back and kick his TRIBBLE later so you can claim the glory as your own,
As for 2v2's Id really be interested in that, how well would Dius's build stack up in a team setting
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I would certainly be up for this as well... =P
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Mara Jade Vs Dius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85s_6n7DaAE
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