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  • wiggles247wiggles247 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Uhh i see the tides changing..adapting..destroying What was learned and perfected..lets see how long the vapes last until the next brokeness makes its entrance..good marketing strategy by criptic yeap lol
  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2013
    wiggles247 wrote: »
    Uhh i see the tides changing..adapting..destroying What was learned and perfected..lets see how long the vapes last until the next brokeness makes its entrance..good marketing strategy by criptic yeap lol

    Again, you see the light. Still don't know of anything that is broken, poorly thought out and designed, yes, but broken, no.
    LOLSTO
  • nebulgamnezarnebulgamnezar Member Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    brandonfl wrote: »
    And it's never coming back. Adapt.

    Nope, i completly lost interest of playing STO now , plus i dont like killing ppl under a sec without give them the time to react !! i play with skills, i dont take the easy way !!
    [System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
    [System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.

    French Canadian
  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2013
    Nope, i completly lost interest of playing STO now , plus i dont like killing ppl under a sec without give them the time to react !!

    Sometimes the vaper gets you sometimes he doesn't. I don't even carry TT, and I can still survive most vapes. It's really not that hard.
    LOLSTO
  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Im waiting for Star Cityzen ,that game will be epic and its skill based. In Star Cityzen there is no stupid console, no stupid reputation power and no broken FAW. Plus the DEVs will play their game they make !!!!!

    How do you know this? Star Citizen isn't even in Alpha, yet.
    __________________________________
    STO Forum member since before February 2010.
    STO Academy's excellent skill planner here: Link
    I actually avoid success entirely. It doesn't get me what I want, and the consequences for failure are slim. -- markhawman
  • nebulgamnezarnebulgamnezar Member Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    crusty8mac wrote: »
    How do you know this? Star Citizen isn't even in Alpha, yet.

    if ur interested of star cityzen there is alot of information , plus the game lunch in 2015 and the alfa is now, u cant see that in any other game ! the DEVs make the game with the comunoty so evryone can say thier oppinion during the game bulding and the devs take care of it
    [System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
    [System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.

    French Canadian
  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2013
    if ur interested of star cityzen there is alot of information , plus the game lunch in 2015 and the alfa is now, u cant see that in any other game ! the dev amke the game with the comunoty so evryone can say thier oppinion during the game bulding !

    You mean like the pre-launch days of STO? Just sayin'.

    If SC is going to be F2P, then eventually it will become P2W (maybe not cheese like STO, but maybe unique and expensive ships, etc...). Why? It's how F2P games stay profitable. Just look at the people already throwing HUGE sums of money at them just so they can look at a ship(s) they can't even use yet. Trust me, it will happen.

    While I've got your attention. What do you think of Stacking Placates? It overrides the immunity to Placate, so isn't that using a broken mechanic in a manner that some would call an exploit?
    LOLSTO
  • nebulgamnezarnebulgamnezar Member Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    brandonfl wrote: »
    You mean like the pre-launch days of STO? Just sayin'.

    If SC is going to be F2P, then eventually it will become P2W (maybe not cheese like STO, but maybe unique and expensive ships, etc...). Why? It's how F2P games stay profitable. Just look at the people already throwing HUGE sums of money at them just so they can look at a ship(s) they can't even use yet. Trust me, it will happen.

    While I've got your attention. What do you think of Stacking Placates? It overrides the immunity to Placate, so isn't that using a broken mechanic in a manner that some would call an exploit?

    not IF , SC will be free to play , u only have to buy it then its free to play, ppl who spent alot is for help to get the game to be founded, evry ship will be avalible for free with ingame money ! atm if ur interested of playing star cityzen it cost 40 $, and u have beta and alfa acess !


    BTW i can live with plocate but not evryone like it ! but i ahve to say, a guy with plocate fighting a guy who dont have plocate its not fair
    [System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
    [System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.

    French Canadian
  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2013
    not IF , SC will be free to play , u only have to buy it then its free to play, ppl who spent alot is for help to get the game founded, evry ship will be avalible for free with ingame money !

    Which is fine, pre-launch, my point is they know people will throw money at them. When the books start looking a little too red, you will see P2W show up. Mark My Words. I have yet to be pointed to a F2P game that hasn't given in to the temptation.

    Now, about my Placate question????
    LOLSTO
  • wiggles247wiggles247 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    You wanna see p2w that makes sto look like a noob?..try madden ultimate team lol
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    we wouldnt have that discution if we was in season 5 , damn i miss that season pvp was WAAAAY more fun !

    Yeah, the good old days of persistant escorts. Just like this eh & this one just a couple i managed to find from the vaults:)

    Now this is real exploiting Zelda. Notice the fleet doing it? What fleet are you the leader of again?
  • saxfiresaxfire Member Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Nerf Bops...
    Say the word, it saves the world.
    CUUCUUMBEER! "-With slight partigen with it."
    Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
  • ivantomdisplayivantomdisplay Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    naz4 wrote: »
    Yeah, the good old days of persistant escorts. Just like this eh :)

    Yeah, just like that, and its a still a game where pandas never defeated tsi. They left game leaving you at 15:6, i believe? There were some tears involved, doesn't it? They had better -REDACTED then u guys, awww. And then u evolved with the -REDACTED, which is clearly a meta, and now you'r super! Congratulations, u won Star Trek Online game!
    Just like this Notice: Glorious explosion at the start!
    [10:49] [Combat (Self)] Your Proton Barrage deals 96581 (43411) Proton(Critical) to Seto.
    Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
  • mightyleptonmightylepton Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Eh? Pandas not ever beaten TSI? I think both parties have some evidence that they both ***** each other once in a while. And both they were very good premades as ive heard :)
    Read the book of the Rihannsu.
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yeah, just like that, and its a still a game where pandas never defeated tsi. They left game leaving you at 15:6, i believe? There were some tears involved, doesn't it? They had better -REDACTED then u guys, awww. And then u evolved with the -REDACTED, which is clearly a meta, and now you'r super! Congratulations, u won Star Trek Online game!
    Just like this Notice: Glorious explosion at the start!

    Was wondering when you'ld show up. Yup, saw that video - grats for winning 1 in a million matches where we just levelled our Rom toons about a week after LoR came out in a que match. Well done Ivan :)

    As to the point about never beating TSI. That was in the TSI prime days as well just to clarify.....

    Yes, we beat each other regularly as mightylepton put it however we never shared bad blood between us. Always GG and talked about it afterwards.

    Ivan, the thing is, whilst you were in Pandas, you just didn't cut it to play in those matches..... That explains your preconception buddy.

    Just for the record, we are beatable - Never claimed we are invincible. Just takes the right setup to do it. Good game to Hank for doing it a few times to us.

    Care to explain this Ivan? Nice SUPPER BOSTED alphas mate from your fleet! Your glorious leader has goe a bit quiet about it.
  • saxfiresaxfire Member Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I'd challenge you guys if I alrdy didn't know that you don't like "exploits" or about your specatatattularare spelling.
    Say the word, it saves the world.
    CUUCUUMBEER! "-With slight partigen with it."
    Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
  • mightyleptonmightylepton Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    damn this supper BOSTED explot is UNACCEPTABLE!!!
    Read the book of the Rihannsu.
  • ivantomdisplayivantomdisplay Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Oh that was my bad. Yes your are beatable, but it isn't rewarding. U gotta ask yourself why. Too many resources put, for nothing.

    About that video, yes those are embassy ground doffs, that reduced cd on capt space powers, messing with them in kerrat. Everyone had access to them and it was a known stuff. It was probably taken even to some arenas, but it was a know -REDACTED.

    Whilst I was in Pandas, I did regularly informed about actions that took place.
    [10:49] [Combat (Self)] Your Proton Barrage deals 96581 (43411) Proton(Critical) to Seto.
    Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2013
    Oh that was my bad. Yes your are beatable, but it isn't rewarding. U gotta ask yourself why. Too many resources put, for nothing.

    About that video, yes those are embassy ground doffs, that reduced cd on capt space powers, messing with them in kerrat. Everyone had access to them and it was a known stuff. It was probably taken even to some arenas, but it was a know -REDACTED.

    So it's all right to use real exploits, as long as everyone knows about them, but perceived exploits (that aren't exploits at all) that result in your team losing are grounds for Zelda to start a QQ thread? Once again, I get it.

    I wasn't even going to get involved in this one until a fleetmate was falsely accused of exploiting, by name, in this thread... and here we are.
    LOLSTO
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Oh that was my bad. Yes your are beatable, but it isn't rewarding. U gotta ask yourself why. Too many resources put, for nothing.

    About that video, yes those are embassy ground doffs, that reduced cd on capt space powers, messing with them in kerrat. Everyone had access to them and it was a known stuff. It was probably taken even to some arenas, but it was a know -REDACTED.

    Whilst I was in Pandas, I did regularly informed about actions that took place.

    Well, obviously some comms broke down because that TSI match was done when you were in Pandas...
    brandonfl wrote: »
    So it's all right to use real exploits, as long as everyone knows about them, but perceived exploits (that aren't exploits at all) that result in your team losing are grounds for Zelda to start a QQ thread? Once again, I get it.

    What he said....

    Going back to the intent of this thread, if you want dog fighting, you won't find it anymore in this game in the manner you wish it to be in. Lead to believe War Thunder might fit what you want.
  • ivantomdisplayivantomdisplay Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    brandonfl wrote: »
    So it's all right to use real exploits, as long as everyone knows about them, but perceived exploits (that aren't exploits at all) that result in your team losing are grounds for Zelda to start a QQ thread? Once again, I get it.
    Brandon m8, hive mind doesn't exist in this game. Using exploits isn't ok in any form.
    [10:49] [Combat (Self)] Your Proton Barrage deals 96581 (43411) Proton(Critical) to Seto.
    Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited December 2013
    Brandon m8, hive mind doesn't exist in this game. Using exploits isn't ok in any form.

    Yeah, Ivan, my problem isn't with you. You know that, and sorry for making it seem that way. Zelda just made me mad with post 96. An unsubstantiated accusation of exploiting against a fleetmate was unacceptable to me. You know as well as I do that that particular player doesn't use or need cheats to properly Chnk the enemy.

    Let's just chalk this one up to fleet pride. We all have people in our respective fleets that say things in here that we wish they hadn't.
    LOLSTO
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited December 2013
    *chomp, chomp, chomp*

    Hmmm out of popcorn, good thing it's at an intermission.

    *rushes off to get more popcorn*

    It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
    A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.

    Has damage got out of control?
    This is the last thing I will post.
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bpharma wrote: »
    *chomp, chomp, chomp*

    Hmmm out of popcorn, good thing it's at an intermission.

    *rushes off to get more popcorn*

    Make sure its Toffee Popcorn - I might pinch a bit off you...
  • ivantomdisplayivantomdisplay Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    brandonfl wrote: »
    Yeah, Ivan, my problem isn't with you. You know that, and sorry for making it seem that way. Zelda just made me mad with post 96. An unsubstantiated accusation of exploiting against a fleetmate was unacceptable to me. You know as well as I do that that particular player doesn't use or need cheats to properly Chnk the enemy.

    Let's just chalk this one up to fleet pride. We all have people in our respective fleets that say things in here that we wish they hadn't.

    Same as using game mechanics. If there is something that game offers, doesn't mean that u should use it as your advantage. But if use that, and it makes you feel good about yourself, use it... im not gonna have problem with it. I will ignore you, or deal with it in another way.
    [10:49] [Combat (Self)] Your Proton Barrage deals 96581 (43411) Proton(Critical) to Seto.
    Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
  • mightyleptonmightylepton Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    [Combat (Self)] Your Isometric Charge deals 78943 (70343) Electrical Damage(Critical) to Trinity.


    ^ Explot.

    Your own signature is UNNACEPTABLE111!!
    Read the book of the Rihannsu.
  • ivantomdisplayivantomdisplay Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    [Combat (Self)] Your Isometric Charge deals 78943 (70343) Electrical Damage(Critical) to Trinity.


    ^ Explot.

    Your own signature is UNNACEPTABLE111!!
    Clearly I delt with it :D
    [10:49] [Combat (Self)] Your Proton Barrage deals 96581 (43411) Proton(Critical) to Seto.
    Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    [Combat (Self)] Your Isometric Charge deals 78943 (70343) Electrical Damage(Critical) to Trinity.


    ^ Explot.

    Your own signature is UNNACEPTABLE111!!

    Epic spot....lol
  • mightyleptonmightylepton Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Same as using game mechanics. If there is something that game offers, doesn't mean that u should use it as your advantage. But if use that, and it makes you feel good about yourself, use it... im not gonna have problem with it. I will ignore you, or deal with it in another way.

    That phenomenon is called having found a combination of game mechanics that works for a particular player. Isnt that part of having 'schkill'?

    Finding out a combination of pieces of the puzzle is exactly what this game is good at. I
    f you dont like it play a game where the amou t of possible combinations isnt as broad. perhs this game is simply getting too complicated for casual pvpers.
    Read the book of the Rihannsu.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I admit, while I am looking forward to SC, I think he is a BIT too much indoctrinated by the Church of Chris(t) Roberts.* I think it'll be a good game when it is released, but to expect perfection is just setting yourself up for disappointment, no matter the outcome. :rolleyes:

    Ah yes, the old Embassy DOFFs when they were broken. Bad times...bad times. *shakes head*

    Pandas do explot! Naz, taking a break from PvP yesterday and choosing to give me some of his time, helped me test out Magnetometric Overload for a funny build idea I had (even if folks say it isn't that good, it's still gonna be fun). But he exploted! He had points in INERTIAL DAMPENERS as part of his spec! So he wasn't pushed as far back as he should have been!** That is obviously an explot, and he should be banned! :P

    *Now I on the other hand, follow the true path as a member of the Church of Optimus Prime. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUxFiNlrDmA

    **In fairness, the ability only does say 'repel' and that doesn't exactly give a good idea of how much that actually MEANS. Might make a thread on this.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
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