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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    This event is better than season 8 in it's entirety.

    Has been good every year, so not sure how it could be viewed as a joke....

    Seriously this.

    The winter event is better than the entirety of S8. At least it has a story line (Q just wants to play!).
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited December 2013
    I like the atmosphere but hate the new voices in the background spamming us loudly. The new content is fun but also super duper grindy. Last year's WW was better in that it felt like a break from all the work in this game. Also Cryptic is very stingy with rewards. Sorry Cryptic but this rates as another disappointing release along with the fugly Mogh Battlecruiser and Season 8 snooze fest.
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited December 2013
    lan451 wrote: »
    Seriously this.

    The winter event is better than the entirety of S8. At least it has a story line (Q just wants to play!).

    LOL. I will give you this one!
    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

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  • lynomanlynoman Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    If they insist on the BS one recipe per run, then at least make the cool down 5 mins. The one drop recipe per run is one of the worst thing ever. And you add an accolade to it...........
  • carnivottcarnivott Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Originally Posted by lucho80 View Post
    The snow piles are staying as-is which means casual players and people with a lot of alts are out of luck.

    Fast and flurrious 1st place gives 12 tags BUT they messed with it and seems to only pop up once an hour instead of twice like last year.
    I suggest doing the Winter invasion once it's fixed because if you do all the optionals (save all gingerbread men, get present, kill Yeti) you get a good amount of drops. Only problem is, the 30 minute cooldown on it.

    They need to bring back the commodities in snow piles. Do it like the pie contest where you actually have to click on the action instead of just blindly pressing F (That is why it was removed by the way)

    Thanks for the reply's guys. I culled some useful info like the stuff quoted above.

    It's another day and I am full of hope. I'm about to go back into the game now [fingers crossed]. I'll let you know how it goes.
  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    You'd think so, but all major software releases follow this path to some degree

    Fixed that for you.

    At least it's not healthcare.gov!
  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yes they do need to bring the commodities back to the snowpiles. I do agree.

    Never going to happen. The snowpiles were the target of mass exploitation by bots last year.
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  • carnivottcarnivott Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    variant37 wrote: »
    Never going to happen. The snowpiles were the target of mass exploitation by bots last year.

    The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that the so-called "mass exploit" was not in any way game-breaking. It didn't negatively effect anything as far as I could tell. If gold sellers were doing this to buy up items to sell them on the exchange, then the price of those items would go down making the botters efforts less valuable. And anyone could dig snowballs for drops, again lowering the value of winter items. A simple fix would have been to this year make items purchasable with winter commodities bind on pickup.
  • vixenjalynnvixenjalynn Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I think they need to bring the commodities and other things back. Part of that kept the market down and made it easier to obtain things. I have done the invasion three times and have only gotten minimal things and being the only person that had a weapon vs snowballs is irritating. I think they should just grant the things blanket style like they do in the event with rewards. That way, all get the same and the cookies and whatnot can be left for bonus objective rewards. More than two recipes should be there.. I was on a team of five and have YET to find a recipe ANYWHERE. I will not be able to get my holiday tribble and will not pay the high to near ridiculous prices on the exchange. The energy credits are stupid hard to get and nearly impossible to deal with.. unless there is a LEGIT place to get them. This is getting more and more like EVE and pay to win. I dislike those greatly and migrate quickly back to games that don't do that. i for one would enjoy it greatly if all of us for participating get a holiday food item recipe and leave the drops of random for extra. *sigh* I like the concept, however I agree that if you tribble the stuff and it comes out COMPLETELY different, they need a new plan. No sense in play testing if you don't see the same result. It would be like going into a store to buy a shirt and coming out with a blanket, then being told you were trying on the blanket the whole time. It needs to be revamped there first. THEN redone for us to see results.
  • puttenhamputtenham Member Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Fixed 4 U.

    no it was right the first time.. lol...

    honestly, I play about 3 other games, and while they have quirks when new content is released.. the material is usually still playable, and the main mechanics usually work out of the gate.. cryptics lack of testing, and or quality control is by far the poorest in the gaming industry, and I believe that is something everyone on these forums can agree on.. I have yet to see them release anything relatively "smoothly"

    but I will concede that other games have problems, just not to the degree that cryptic games do...
  • vixenjalynnvixenjalynn Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    k. for the record, bots are a HACK, so to say all of us used them to get tags is like saying anyone playing that modifies a starship is breaking the game. Like it says in the users agreement, hacking and modifying the game are illegal to use.. hence bots are illegal. They should have a tracker to see how much we could "legitamently" obtain by mass squishing the F button repeatedly like it is expected on the space bar to fight. This then can be used as a Max standard. Then, anyone getting more, can be flagged by a overseer bot in the zone of possible Exploit/hack/bot and then be investigated and banned/blocked/punished accordingly. I don't see how this would fix the troll harvesting issue, I still feel they need to do away with "master looter" for the reasons it states in the term and title. I don't want my hard earned items going to a random person or fleet member if they are my drops. Leave it so that all of us get a chance to get a drop.. you want to stop the trolls .. there is an answer, take away the mechanic granting advantages. Voila! it makes sense.
  • elessymelessym Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    puttenham wrote: »
    cryptics lack of testing, and or quality control is by far the poorest in the gaming industry,

    Someone never heard of Battlecruiser 3000 AD.
    and I believe that is something everyone on these forums can agree on.

    Nope.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
  • brewtolomusbrewtolomus Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2013
    But I am kinda fed up with all the holiday TRIBBLE. It's all around me IRL and in the games I play for an escape.
    And the voices at the staging area for Q's winter wonderland thingy are supremely annoying.
    Makes me not want to participate at all.
    But...I want that bloody ship!
    Guess I'll be running this festival business with a clenched jaw, muttering profanities about how silly it all is.
  • mrgrocer56mrgrocer56 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Q loves all the little creatures...even you
  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The ship only takes a few minutes each day in the Winter Wonderland. After that you can drop-kick Star T-Rexes again for the rest of the day.:D
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  • uss917019uss917019 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    My thought on this is that theres too much stuff to do at the same time like for ex:

    1. your on your way to do the race to get your pics then you know what happens the big large snowmans comes you missed it oh well. 2. you start the Fast and Flurious not to menchion that i did it for the first time this year and you know what happens JUST BEACUSE the snow man event started it IMMIDIATLY cancelled the FAF and i did that basicly for nothing. 3. and with all other stuff that i need to do at the winter wonderland i myself still needs to be at the dyson Sphere doing my Rep for the last Tier to do.

    I know some of this you already said but just wanted to say it in my words.
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  • brewtolomusbrewtolomus Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2013
    mrgrocer56 wrote: »
    Q loves all the little creatures...even you

    Q always loved you best!
  • stormbringer77stormbringer77 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Adding my tuppence worth whilst waiting on WW cooldowns...

    Arrived at ESD and went to WW. Brilliant. Liked the new NPC voice over, did my daily race to get autographs. THEN the chef's VO started getting repetitive.

    Did Gingerbread village defense, enjoyed it. Lots, despite having been told I got a recipe everytime I've run it, no recipe or beads, but hey-ho. Back to WW.

    VO getting really annoying. Did Pie-eating contest, first time was fun, then I saw the CD timer. Thought I'd check some snow piles. D'oh! Stood around waiting for CD on ice-rink because I couldn't face VO.

    Came to forum to kill time while waiting on CD.

    In summation: Please do something with the CDs and drop rates. Lowering the frequency of the NPC call-outs (although kudos for putting more voice-acting in the game) might stop people stuffing their Christmas chocolates in their ears. Epohh tags would be nice to see for those of us that don't like the PvP race. I'm sure you're aware of the reported bugs in the Gingerbread defense event, if you could sort them, that'd be great. Finally, please either triple the table size for pie-eating or make the pies respawn much faster/instantantly. Failing all of these suggestions, could you maybe extend the event to allow those of us with a pixel-crack addiction to stand a chance of getting all the new goodies...pretty please?

    All this aside, thanks for thinking of the players, and Merry Christmas to all those on the STO team :D
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  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    mayito2009 wrote: »
    Please somebody wake me up, is this April 1st, fools day?

    What a garbage of event, what a bad design waste of time garbage. I tried yesterday, first thing eating pie, freaking eating pie competition?

    Then defend the gingerbread, I stood there like a moron for 10 minutes, no one joined, then the ice race, what? I ran, better said slide back and forth, then the NPC goes running by me on a straight line like he is running on asphalt, I am sliding so bad I get off the track and DQ

    I go back to the other event and oh bad luck you need to wait for 30 minutes.

    And the rewards are you kidding me?

    Whoever designed this cacophony of stupidity should be punished to stand on thin ice wearing a spedo.

    I have no problems with the Winter Event, my fleet was having a blast hunting down snowmen and the daily race is just has easy has it has always been.

    Everything in the Winter Event is paid for with time and the beauty of that is if you do not like what the even has to offer you do not have to make time for it.
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  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    But I am kinda fed up with all the holiday TRIBBLE. It's all around me IRL and in the games I play for an escape.
    And the voices at the staging area for Q's winter wonderland thingy are supremely annoying.
    Makes me not want to participate at all.
    But...I want that bloody ship!
    Guess I'll be running this festival business with a clenched jaw, muttering profanities about how silly it all is.

    Just turn the sound off ;)
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  • brewtolomusbrewtolomus Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2013
    errab wrote: »
    Just turn the sound off ;)


    Too easy.
    I'm from the South, we do things the hard way.
  • osiabunnyosiabunny Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    To answer the question, of course this event is a joke, it's a holiday. Duh.

    These events are to be entertaining, which this one is. It's not to be serious. And I absolutely love the animations they did for the slipping and sliding on ice. Makes the games all that much more fun. Especially running away from an army of snowmen

    Great job on the event Cryptic :D
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Many of you know me on this forum as being very critical of Cryptic, and rightfully so. However; that being said, the event is a good one.

    The Winter event is one of Cryptic's highlights and bright spot of STO. The rewards are fair and we get to run this year a rep system for our choice of vessel.

    The new events are nice to, as well as the new winter toys we get to enjoy with. Please count your blessings, these type of fun and rewarding events are few and far between.

    Just be happy they did not bring back the Red Gift Boxes from HELL, those old timers who have been around will know what I am referring to., and even that, nobody ever won one and most had to be bought on the CStore.
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  • salem1574salem1574 Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well I am enjoying the holiday atmosphere of Q?s Wonderland!! Of course I am always pleased by anyone?s efforts to bring a bit of holiday cheer to life.

    My only wish is that they would of made it possible for us to have Christmas trees, garland on our starbases etc to warm up the places for the holidays. Nothing like a little holiday eye candy to chase away the winter gloom.
    :)
  • phadrenphadren Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well. opinions are like ...holes, some smell worse than others, but I really enjoy the event its a lot of fun especially when you pull out a snow blower and wipe out snowman, or the Mr. Bill ginger bread man and the Bumble (they bounce) yeti. Good times for sure.

    Thanks Cryptic the event is fun.Thanks for your work, Happy Holidays:)
  • captcokecancaptcokecan Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hey Djinn, I was calling out in Fleet chat last night for anyone to do a private run of the Invasion since the public queue was borked (and then disabled anyway), but didn't get many takers.

    Offer still stands, when I get home.

    Oh, and if anyone else wants to run it with me, @Cokecan in game.

    I have to admit though, the creeping in of anti-social gameplay mechanics (the pink Credit coins in the Sphere Battlezone, the present only rewarding 1 captain) are a little disconcerting to me.


    Wow, What happened ?
    The winter event fell a bit short in expectations for me. Too bad too, I was so looking forward to it.

    Cryptic, I don't expect something for nothing, but a lot of these winter vanity items are kinda useless after the Winter Wonderland event, so could you turn down the grind to obtain the snowball artillery stuff just a tad? I'd like to actually get them, and play around with them while the event is still live.
    Could you please increase the drop rates? Please?

    The rest of the game's grind is waiting for us right where we left it. What's the harm in having this one event be more about the FUN, and less about the grind ? You know take a little break from it to .......enjoy the season.
    (I'm not talking about having to run the race for the ships BTW, I understand working towards that. I'm talking about getting the the snowball cannons, guns and such)

    If you don't want us digging for winter commodities like last year, at least hide them throughout the map then and have us go on egg hunts or something.

    I'd like to give away some of these clothing items as virtual gifts to fleetmates, but to be honest, at current drop rates, that's clearly not gonna happen, MUCH.
    Not with the fleet ornament project competing for these same resources... :rolleyes:

    The good news is, there is still time to tweak this into something better.

    I haven't had the pleasure of defending the gingerbread village. I'm really looking forward to that. As soon as I can play it that is.

    I like the fact that the two ships can use each other's consoles, (for a set bonus), but for next year, (or maybe this year, if there is time?), Could you please consider offering an upgrade to the Breen set, sorta like the Jem Hadar set? (Except let us use those autographed pics instead of lobi?)

    Also, - please consider a PVP snowball arena next year. I think that would be a nifty idea.

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  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,541 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There are only two things that annoy me about hte Winter Zone. The lack of how you get certain things and the really annoying voice over that is sucking up to Q in the main area. It just won't shut up! :eek:
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  • phadrenphadren Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Not to mention is a game based on an organization from Earth, so they will have the same traditions in game, But at least in game you don't have go shopping and can throw snowballs at EEEEEEVVVVVVaaaaaaaLLLLL Snowman.
  • solidshatnersolidshatner Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I think all of you haters should back off! Wanna know why? Because . . .

    Q IS THE GREATEST BEING I'VE EVER KNOWN!!!!

    haha!

    Seriously - I LOVE this years' event! I almost peed my pants when I heard the "NOT Mickey Mouse" Gingerbread voices. And the Vulcan gingerbread pet I got that follows me around now is the creepiest thing I've ever seen in the game. I LOVE IT!
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