Lol, I actually wasn't speaking to you directly, most of your comments seem to at least have some balance and thought put behind them. It was aimed more at the general "KDF whiner", that tends to completely de-rail any efforts at players discussing what they'd like to see as a good balance for the various factions. And one of the biggest screams (besides how BoP's seem to get the short end of the stick), is how the KDF lacks a "good" sci vessel. Ignoring of course, the fact that just about every one of their carriers is a good sci vessel, on top of the fact that their prime carrier is a free L40, whereas the Fed has to pay zen for theirs.....
"every one of of their carriers is a good sci vessel"...which "every one" of the two the KDF has would that be?
Also, the Atrox is easily comparable to the Vo'quv: it gets some 20% more shields for 3.5% less hull.
The Gorn Varanus has less shields than its counterparts (like the DSSV) and nothing to offset it. So "good" simply means the same as the other side, just like the Federation gets for their carrier.
Nerf to raiders is not done by feds....
PVPers cry nerf all the time, and feds get the "credit" for it. Not really fair, is it?
Remember the Valdore console, or the Dyson rep t4 power...yeah. All the fed's responsibility too, right? *Sarcasm*
Point B:
KDF got superior cruisers. Just compare the Mogh to the Avenger, and the KDF one is better.
And yes, they got the super flexible BOPs too.
Romulans got the critical chance bonuses but they also got the -40 power that is still a pain in your space elf rear.
Feds.... Feds got Science vessels (Not the most effective in pve ever since the PVPers had the sci powers nerfed to uselessness) and the Kumari.
So.... the only thing KDF could whine about was the PVE levelling content, but that got fixed already.
Point C:
Either whine for equal treatment OR uniqueness.
The two are kind of incompatible.
Oooh wait I got it.... be equal to the other factions in all what they have, just have other better stuff too riiiight? :rolleyes:
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
Considering the Atrox then the Varanus is within the same specs because sure we can compare the Atrox with the Vo'Quv buts its not going to be pretty ... for the Atrox.
The VoQ os not a science vessel. It lacks Sensor Analysis.
Only the Gorn vessels work as KDF science vessels, and we pay for them.
On a side note, the Vo'Quv and Kar'Fi get the same benefit to stealth detection as Science Vessels. Not sure if the JHDC does and I would not be surprised of the other SCI heavy Carriers in the game have the same benefit.
Nerf to raiders is not done by feds....
PVPers cry nerf all the time, and feds get the "credit" for it. Not really fair, is it?
Remember the Valdore console, or the Dyson rep t4 power...yeah. All the fed's responsibility too, right? *Sarcasm*
Point B:
KDF got superior cruisers. Just compare the Mogh to the Avenger, and the KDF one is better.
And yes, they got the super flexible BOPs too.
Romulans got the critical chance bonuses but they also got the -40 power that is still a pain in your space elf rear.
Feds.... Feds got Science vessels (Not the most effective in pve ever since the PVPers had the sci powers nerfed to uselessness) and the Kumari.
So.... the only thing KDF could whine about was the PVE levelling content, but that got fixed already.
Point C:
Either whine for equal treatment OR uniqueness.
The two are kind of incompatible.
Oooh wait I got it.... be equal to the other factions in all what they have, just have other better stuff too riiiight? :rolleyes:
u still crying about PvP players???
Point A:
- Most PvPers that cry nerf all the time are Feds: FACT
- The Valdore console and the Dyson T4 power need to be balanced out
Point B:
- So u claiming that the Mogh is far superior to the Avenger which the advantage of the Mogh at best is Minor, U will have better case complaining about Romulan Ships/Boffs are superior with stats of Fed Escorts and Cruisers with a Battle Cloak
- BoP Flexible Yes, survivable No, Offensive power No... when u compare BoP Stats to Escorts... Boff stations, hull, shield mod, weapons amount, etc. they fail in every catagory except for a slight turn rate advantage to newer Romulan Tac Warbirds and Fed Escorts, the only good thing that BoP have that are good are boff universal station which in the end is limited to either Tac or Sci setups.
- Romulans don't have Crit/CritX bonus because of -40 power, they got it because they have Sig Abilities
- I've seen some KDF using Foreign Alien Lock Box Sci ships that done more Damage in PvP with Sci abilities than most Fed players Escorts with their Cannon Builds, not to mention i sci Sci Ships that done well in PvE, u should learn how to build ur Sci well like increasing ur Particle Generator to increase Damage and stop making ur Sci Ship as a Pure Cannon Ship.
- Yes some KDF player did whine about the lack of PvE content and Cryptic did bring it almost to par with Fed content, but it took Cryptic 3 and a half YEARS
Point C:
- Where's the uniqueness when Fed players was complaining about the KDF having Carriers(2 hanger ships) and Light Carriers (1 hanger ships) then afterwards the Feds got an Atrox, Armitage, Vesta, etc?
- Where's the uniqueness when Feds have a Battle Cruiser?
All i see u to is Crying and Complaining in most of the posts u do about PvP players, all u want to do is to keep this power creep keep going and going so u can have more power to kill weak preprogramed AI's so u can have ur outrageous DPS on the parser to feed ur DPS ego, only reason u want to stay away from PvP is because u rather kill weak unintellient AI's that have the same tactics and can't really fight back while u scared of fighting people that have different tactics with the ability to change or adapt in a fight.
Point A:
- Most PvPers that cry nerf all the time are Feds: FACT
- The Valdore console and the Dyson T4 power need to be balanced out
Point B:
- So u claiming that the Mogh is far superior to the Avenger which the advantage of the Mogh at best is Minor, U will have better case complaining about Romulan Ships/Boffs are superior with stats of Fed Escorts and Cruisers with a Battle Cloak
- BoP Flexible Yes, survivable No, Offensive power No... when u compare BoP Stats to Escorts... Boff stations, hull, shield mod, weapons amount, etc. they fail in every catagory except for a slight turn rate advantage to newer Romulan Tac Warbirds and Fed Escorts, the only good thing that BoP have that are good are boff universal station which in the end is limited to either Tac or Sci setups.
- Romulans don't have Crit/CritX bonus because of -40 power, they got it because they have Sig Abilities
- I've seen some KDF using Foreign Alien Lock Box Sci ships that done more Damage in PvP with Sci abilities than most Fed players Escorts with their Cannon Builds, not to mention i sci Sci Ships that done well in PvE, u should learn how to build ur Sci well like increasing ur Particle Generator to increase Damage and stop making ur Sci Ship as a Pure Cannon Ship.
- Yes some KDF player did whine about the lack of PvE content and Cryptic did bring it almost to par with Fed content, but it took Cryptic 3 and a half YEARS
Point C:
- Where's the uniqueness when Fed players was complaining about the KDF having Carriers(2 hanger ships) and Light Carriers (1 hanger ships) then afterwards the Feds got an Atrox, Armitage, Vesta, etc?
- Where's the uniqueness when Feds have a Battle Cruiser?
All i see u to is Crying and Complaining in most of the posts u do about PvP players, all u want to do is to keep this power creep keep going and going so u can have more power to kill weak preprogramed AI's so u can have ur outrageous DPS on the parser to feed ur DPS ego, only reason u want to stay away from PvP is because u rather kill weak unintellient AI's that have the same tactics and can't really fight back while u scared of fighting people that have different tactics with the ability to change or adapt in a fight.
This is another reason why reasonable discussions break down. Tends to degenerate into insults. Except this time, instead of it being "FDF vs Fed", this one's bringing it "PvP'er vs non-PvP'er".
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Temperance Brennan, "A building"
This is another reason why reasonable discussions break down. Tends to degenerate into insults. Except this time, instead of it being "FDF vs Fed", this one's bringing it "PvP'er vs non-PvP'er".
Maybe u should read more carefully b4 claiming someone bringing PvP'er vs Non-PvP'er on ur post, this so-called insult u claimed is aimed to the same person whom is very well known to throw insults and blame KDF/PvP'ers in general on the forums for about everything thats bugged or unbalanced in STO.
T'Pelena philosophy if a game have a bug in it or it's unbalanced, keep it so it exploited it for it's own advantage, and when ppl asking dev's to fix the problem and sometimes on rare occasions that Cryptic do manage to fix the bug/exploit, T'Pelena will start blaming PvP'ers and then afterwards and it will blame KDF players calling it an outrageous nerf. if u ever seen T'pelena post in either any threads on the subject of buff's or nerf's u will see all the time not wanting to balance factions and calling on nerfs on any KDF ship while promoting buffs for Fed or Fed-Roms.
I rather see a balance between factions not some massive power creep favoring one side over another this is an MMO game not a TV series, MMO games suppose explore their universes from different view points and not focus to a hand full of cast on one faction like a TV series does. if u want to see balance factions just looks at WoW and SWTOR it's something alot of us would want in STO.
This post was aimed at the person made it clear alot of times is a pure PvE'er and demanded PvP to be ''Killed off'' on the forums b4, maybe if u have read it's post and most of mine (not the ones after Point C which is the ones u only read), i only made my post after it made another of it's Anti-PvP'er/Anti-KDF statements.
Maybe u should read more carefully b4 claiming someone bringing PvP'er vs Non-PvP'er on ur post, this so-called insult u claimed is aimed to the same person whom is very well known to throw insults and blame KDF/PvP'ers in general on the forums for about everything thats bugged or unbalanced in STO.
T'Pelena philosophy if a game have a bug in it or it's unbalanced, keep it so it exploited it for it's own advantage, and when ppl asking dev's to fix the problem and sometimes on rare occasions that Cryptic do manage to fix the bug/exploit, T'Pelena will start blaming PvP'ers and then afterwards and it will blame KDF players calling it an outrageous nerf. if u ever seen T'pelena post in either any threads on the subject of buff's or nerf's u will see all the time not wanting to balance factions and calling on nerfs on any KDF ship while promoting buffs for Fed or Fed-Roms.
I rather see a balance between factions not some massive power creep favoring one side over another this is an MMO game not a TV series, MMO games suppose explore their universes from different view points and not focus to a hand full of cast on one faction like a TV series does. if u want to see balance factions just looks at WoW and SWTOR it's something alot of us would want in STO.
This post was aimed at the person made it clear alot of times is a pure PvE'er and demanded PvP to be ''Killed off'' on the forums b4, maybe if u have read it's post and most of mine (not the ones after Point C which is the ones u only read), i only made my post after it made another of it's Anti-PvP'er/Anti-KDF statements.
Actually, it's you who made an assumption, and 2 at that.
1>That I haven't read much of this thread. I've read the whole thing, plus tons of others.
2> That I'm only picking out the things I want to harp on. Most people do that, granted, even me from time to time. But typically, my reason for reading as much of a thread as possible, is so I can get the feel for what's going on, before adding my two cents into it, as well as if I even need to be adding it in.
Now granted, sometimes I don't look at who's posting what, and this "T'Pelena" is not very well known to me. However, I've run across a HUGE amount of posts, of "PvE'ers vs PvP'ers" or "PvP'ers vs non-PvPers". And usually they're filled with insults, primarily from the PvP'er side. As in "You must be scared that's why you don't PvP, so STFU" or "You must suck at PvP, so STFU", and other VERY similar sentiments.
It's almost as bad, sometimes worse, that the rant filled "KDF vs Fed" posts at their most rabid.
So NOW do you see why I made the comment I did? Because anytime any kind of discussion starts off, even when it starts reasonable, due to this very issue, it doesn't stay that way for long.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Equal treatment: Equal time and effort spent creating products for a faction as any other.
Uniqueness: Not carbon copy but comparably enjoyable/useful products for each faction.
Those are pretty compatible goals my friend.
That kind of equal treatment? Yes, you are right.
Than the KDF is getting the bad end of that, but so do the Romulans, with Feds taking up most of the time and effort spent creating producs and such.
I also never blamed the KDF players for a nerf.
Both instances of nerfs I mentioned were cross faction.
And actually, I would prefer it if devs went on fixing on real bugs.
Like how my fed-romulan's omega harvester outfit is bugged, or how my KDF captains cant use their costume slots.
An interesting point though, the Breen raider does feel better than the KDF ones.
5 tac slots, and a bigger flank bonus. I do wonder why the Bops get a less flanking thing.
They should all have the same bonus.
And no, not the weaker bop one, but the stronger breen one.
Speaking of TOR, and worse, WOW, there you can see complete carbon copy factions. That does lend itself to balance, but not uniqueness.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
Actually, it's you who made an assumption, and 2 at that.
1>That I haven't read much of this thread. I've read the whole thing, plus tons of others.
2> That I'm only picking out the things I want to harp on. Most people do that, granted, even me from time to time. But typically, my reason for reading as much of a thread as possible, is so I can get the feel for what's going on, before adding my two cents into it, as well as if I even need to be adding it in.
Now granted, sometimes I don't look at who's posting what, and this "T'Pelena" is not very well known to me. However, I've run across a HUGE amount of posts, of "PvE'ers vs PvP'ers" or "PvP'ers vs non-PvPers". And usually they're filled with insults, primarily from the PvP'er side. As in "You must be scared that's why you don't PvP, so STFU" or "You must suck at PvP, so STFU", and other VERY similar sentiments.
It's almost as bad, sometimes worse, that the rant filled "KDF vs Fed" posts at their most rabid.
So NOW do you see why I made the comment I did? Because anytime any kind of discussion starts off, even when it starts reasonable, due to this very issue, it doesn't stay that way for long.
Again where's do those insults started from? PvE'er only fanatics who who made comments like ''PvP ruins the game'', ''Kill off PvP it needs to die'', ''PvP'ers complains nerf of useful abilities'', ''PvP'ers don't know how this game works'', etc. if it wasn't for that there would be no PvP'er comments like "You must be scared that's why you don't PvP, so STFU" or "You must suck at PvP, so STFU" to begin with.
Tell me... what goal does a PvP'er get from out of no where insult an average PvE player since we PvP players ourselves do PvE most of the time to get our best gear to fight in PvP to begin with?
I myself have nothing against PvE players in general, but when a person that comes to the forums that does not PvP at all and blames PvP players for every bug, exploit or glitch this game have, it's not cool.
Than the KDF is getting the bad end of that, but so do the Romulans, with Feds taking up most of the time and effort spent creating producs and such.
I also never blamed the KDF players for a nerf.
Both instances of nerfs I mentioned were cross faction.
And actually, I would prefer it if devs went on fixing on real bugs.
Like how my fed-romulan's omega harvester outfit is bugged, or how my KDF captains cant use their costume slots.
An interesting point though, the Breen raider does feel better than the KDF ones.
5 tac slots, and a bigger flank bonus. I do wonder why the Bops get a less flanking thing.
They should all have the same bonus.
And no, not the weaker bop one, but the stronger breen one.
Speaking of TOR, and worse, WOW, there you can see complete carbon copy factions. That does lend itself to balance, but not uniqueness.
I apologize since u don't normally make much Anti-KDF comments, probably thinking of someone else that does massive amounts of Anti-KDF propaganda like Sal... he's Evul.
i believe that like u, the flanking abilities should be either 25% or 33% nomatter what on all raider classes no matter if it's PvE (Breen Raid 33% flank dmg currently, BoP 25% planned) or PvP (BoP flanking 8% planned/Breen Raid flank 11% current), just becuase the raiders limited stats especially since all Tier 5 BoP's have only 3 tactical consoles except for the Hoh'sus which have 4 tac consoles.
I believe it's possible to make factions both balanced and unique
I still don't agree with u with any comments about PvP/PvPers though
Breen raider has no battlecloak, extra hull, +1 BOff, fixed tactical commander, slower turn, extra speed, extra tactical console. Overall i think giving KDF raider 25/8% versus 33/11% for breen is somehow ballanced if, let's say, BoPs get the 5th BOff, even if it is only as a (lets call it )consultant ,with no extra skill but an extra space trait.
Than the KDF is getting the bad end of that, but so do the Romulans, with Feds taking up most of the time and effort spent creating producs and such.
I also never blamed the KDF players for a nerf.
Both instances of nerfs I mentioned were cross faction.
And actually, I would prefer it if devs went on fixing on real bugs.
Like how my fed-romulan's omega harvester outfit is bugged, or how my KDF captains cant use their costume slots.
An interesting point though, the Breen raider does feel better than the KDF ones.
5 tac slots, and a bigger flank bonus. I do wonder why the Bops get a less flanking thing.
They should all have the same bonus.
And no, not the weaker bop one, but the stronger breen one.
Speaking of TOR, and worse, WOW, there you can see complete carbon copy factions. That does lend itself to balance, but not uniqueness.
I would agree that the Roms have alot less to play with atm, but they are also new, and have gotten much for the amount of time they've been around, (e.g. the Arkif and Scimis). KDF have been around for much longer and have long been begging for ships like that, given the warrior culture of the KDF, yet still do not have a 5 tac console or fore weapon escort, or carrier-escort. Are the KDF suppose to not have any of that, along with being denied more science vessels, in exchange for having good battlecruisers? Which, I may add, a superb one has been given to the Feds. What uniquely "Fed-style" ships have the KDF gotten in their C-store, aside from the Gorn sci ship?
As to the Breen Raider, I've yet to try one, but I think it was due to the fact that regular BOPs have a battlecloak to help them out a bit. I'm waiting for the real BOP guys out there to discuss it vs regular BOPs.
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Only the Gorn vessels work as KDF science vessels, and we pay for them.
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True I forgot about SA. Adds more to the point that we need more sci vessels, even if we have to pay for it.
"every one of of their carriers is a good sci vessel"...which "every one" of the two the KDF has would that be?
Also, the Atrox is easily comparable to the Vo'quv: it gets some 20% more shields for 3.5% less hull.
The Gorn Varanus has less shields than its counterparts (like the DSSV) and nothing to offset it. So "good" simply means the same as the other side, just like the Federation gets for their carrier.
Nerf to raiders is not done by feds....
PVPers cry nerf all the time, and feds get the "credit" for it. Not really fair, is it?
Remember the Valdore console, or the Dyson rep t4 power...yeah. All the fed's responsibility too, right? *Sarcasm*
Point B:
KDF got superior cruisers. Just compare the Mogh to the Avenger, and the KDF one is better.
And yes, they got the super flexible BOPs too.
Romulans got the critical chance bonuses but they also got the -40 power that is still a pain in your space elf rear.
Feds.... Feds got Science vessels (Not the most effective in pve ever since the PVPers had the sci powers nerfed to uselessness) and the Kumari.
So.... the only thing KDF could whine about was the PVE levelling content, but that got fixed already.
Point C:
Either whine for equal treatment OR uniqueness.
The two are kind of incompatible.
Oooh wait I got it.... be equal to the other factions in all what they have, just have other better stuff too riiiight? :rolleyes:
Could you please elaborate?
On a side note, the Vo'Quv and Kar'Fi get the same benefit to stealth detection as Science Vessels. Not sure if the JHDC does and I would not be surprised of the other SCI heavy Carriers in the game have the same benefit.
u still crying about PvP players???
Point A:
- Most PvPers that cry nerf all the time are Feds: FACT
- The Valdore console and the Dyson T4 power need to be balanced out
Point B:
- So u claiming that the Mogh is far superior to the Avenger which the advantage of the Mogh at best is Minor, U will have better case complaining about Romulan Ships/Boffs are superior with stats of Fed Escorts and Cruisers with a Battle Cloak
- BoP Flexible Yes, survivable No, Offensive power No... when u compare BoP Stats to Escorts... Boff stations, hull, shield mod, weapons amount, etc. they fail in every catagory except for a slight turn rate advantage to newer Romulan Tac Warbirds and Fed Escorts, the only good thing that BoP have that are good are boff universal station which in the end is limited to either Tac or Sci setups.
- Romulans don't have Crit/CritX bonus because of -40 power, they got it because they have Sig Abilities
- I've seen some KDF using Foreign Alien Lock Box Sci ships that done more Damage in PvP with Sci abilities than most Fed players Escorts with their Cannon Builds, not to mention i sci Sci Ships that done well in PvE, u should learn how to build ur Sci well like increasing ur Particle Generator to increase Damage and stop making ur Sci Ship as a Pure Cannon Ship.
- Yes some KDF player did whine about the lack of PvE content and Cryptic did bring it almost to par with Fed content, but it took Cryptic 3 and a half YEARS
Point C:
- Where's the uniqueness when Fed players was complaining about the KDF having Carriers(2 hanger ships) and Light Carriers (1 hanger ships) then afterwards the Feds got an Atrox, Armitage, Vesta, etc?
- Where's the uniqueness when Feds have a Battle Cruiser?
All i see u to is Crying and Complaining in most of the posts u do about PvP players, all u want to do is to keep this power creep keep going and going so u can have more power to kill weak preprogramed AI's so u can have ur outrageous DPS on the parser to feed ur DPS ego, only reason u want to stay away from PvP is because u rather kill weak unintellient AI's that have the same tactics and can't really fight back while u scared of fighting people that have different tactics with the ability to change or adapt in a fight.
Equal treatment: Equal time and effort spent creating products for a faction as any other.
Uniqueness: Not carbon copy but comparably enjoyable/useful products for each faction.
Those are pretty compatible goals my friend.
This is another reason why reasonable discussions break down. Tends to degenerate into insults. Except this time, instead of it being "FDF vs Fed", this one's bringing it "PvP'er vs non-PvP'er".
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Maybe u should read more carefully b4 claiming someone bringing PvP'er vs Non-PvP'er on ur post, this so-called insult u claimed is aimed to the same person whom is very well known to throw insults and blame KDF/PvP'ers in general on the forums for about everything thats bugged or unbalanced in STO.
T'Pelena philosophy if a game have a bug in it or it's unbalanced, keep it so it exploited it for it's own advantage, and when ppl asking dev's to fix the problem and sometimes on rare occasions that Cryptic do manage to fix the bug/exploit, T'Pelena will start blaming PvP'ers and then afterwards and it will blame KDF players calling it an outrageous nerf. if u ever seen T'pelena post in either any threads on the subject of buff's or nerf's u will see all the time not wanting to balance factions and calling on nerfs on any KDF ship while promoting buffs for Fed or Fed-Roms.
I rather see a balance between factions not some massive power creep favoring one side over another this is an MMO game not a TV series, MMO games suppose explore their universes from different view points and not focus to a hand full of cast on one faction like a TV series does. if u want to see balance factions just looks at WoW and SWTOR it's something alot of us would want in STO.
This post was aimed at the person made it clear alot of times is a pure PvE'er and demanded PvP to be ''Killed off'' on the forums b4, maybe if u have read it's post and most of mine (not the ones after Point C which is the ones u only read), i only made my post after it made another of it's Anti-PvP'er/Anti-KDF statements.
Actually, it's you who made an assumption, and 2 at that.
1>That I haven't read much of this thread. I've read the whole thing, plus tons of others.
2> That I'm only picking out the things I want to harp on. Most people do that, granted, even me from time to time. But typically, my reason for reading as much of a thread as possible, is so I can get the feel for what's going on, before adding my two cents into it, as well as if I even need to be adding it in.
Now granted, sometimes I don't look at who's posting what, and this "T'Pelena" is not very well known to me. However, I've run across a HUGE amount of posts, of "PvE'ers vs PvP'ers" or "PvP'ers vs non-PvPers". And usually they're filled with insults, primarily from the PvP'er side. As in "You must be scared that's why you don't PvP, so STFU" or "You must suck at PvP, so STFU", and other VERY similar sentiments.
It's almost as bad, sometimes worse, that the rant filled "KDF vs Fed" posts at their most rabid.
So NOW do you see why I made the comment I did? Because anytime any kind of discussion starts off, even when it starts reasonable, due to this very issue, it doesn't stay that way for long.
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
That kind of equal treatment? Yes, you are right.
Than the KDF is getting the bad end of that, but so do the Romulans, with Feds taking up most of the time and effort spent creating producs and such.
I also never blamed the KDF players for a nerf.
Both instances of nerfs I mentioned were cross faction.
And actually, I would prefer it if devs went on fixing on real bugs.
Like how my fed-romulan's omega harvester outfit is bugged, or how my KDF captains cant use their costume slots.
An interesting point though, the Breen raider does feel better than the KDF ones.
5 tac slots, and a bigger flank bonus. I do wonder why the Bops get a less flanking thing.
They should all have the same bonus.
And no, not the weaker bop one, but the stronger breen one.
Speaking of TOR, and worse, WOW, there you can see complete carbon copy factions. That does lend itself to balance, but not uniqueness.
Again where's do those insults started from? PvE'er only fanatics who who made comments like ''PvP ruins the game'', ''Kill off PvP it needs to die'', ''PvP'ers complains nerf of useful abilities'', ''PvP'ers don't know how this game works'', etc. if it wasn't for that there would be no PvP'er comments like "You must be scared that's why you don't PvP, so STFU" or "You must suck at PvP, so STFU" to begin with.
Tell me... what goal does a PvP'er get from out of no where insult an average PvE player since we PvP players ourselves do PvE most of the time to get our best gear to fight in PvP to begin with?
I myself have nothing against PvE players in general, but when a person that comes to the forums that does not PvP at all and blames PvP players for every bug, exploit or glitch this game have, it's not cool.
I apologize since u don't normally make much Anti-KDF comments, probably thinking of someone else that does massive amounts of Anti-KDF propaganda like Sal... he's Evul.
i believe that like u, the flanking abilities should be either 25% or 33% nomatter what on all raider classes no matter if it's PvE (Breen Raid 33% flank dmg currently, BoP 25% planned) or PvP (BoP flanking 8% planned/Breen Raid flank 11% current), just becuase the raiders limited stats especially since all Tier 5 BoP's have only 3 tactical consoles except for the Hoh'sus which have 4 tac consoles.
I believe it's possible to make factions both balanced and unique
I still don't agree with u with any comments about PvP/PvPers though
I would agree that the Roms have alot less to play with atm, but they are also new, and have gotten much for the amount of time they've been around, (e.g. the Arkif and Scimis). KDF have been around for much longer and have long been begging for ships like that, given the warrior culture of the KDF, yet still do not have a 5 tac console or fore weapon escort, or carrier-escort. Are the KDF suppose to not have any of that, along with being denied more science vessels, in exchange for having good battlecruisers? Which, I may add, a superb one has been given to the Feds. What uniquely "Fed-style" ships have the KDF gotten in their C-store, aside from the Gorn sci ship?
As to the Breen Raider, I've yet to try one, but I think it was due to the fact that regular BOPs have a battlecloak to help them out a bit. I'm waiting for the real BOP guys out there to discuss it vs regular BOPs.