to the OP, Cryptic has stated that they want STO to have more of a single player feel and it does. People join pug stfs not to team and socialize but just to get their rewards they're after and get out asap. It is quite frustrating pugging in this game and as such I try to avoid it when possible and play with my fleet mates or join private Queues like those found on PublicEliteSTF.
Fun recent examples: me pugging first time on Storming the Spire "hey guys, first timer here anything i should know" = "space crickets"
me pugging a few days later "hey guys i'll go shuttle side left" = "space crickets"
As long as the fundamentals of the game are one of a single player game with multiplayer elements, no amount of rewards will change puggers behavior.
So... if I were to do 9k dps in my tac/scort that would be fine, huh? But of course I can't heal anyone else while I do that can I? And that isn't sociopathic... but flying a cruiser doing the same damage in a situation where I CAN heal somebody is sociopathic?
... Sure...
tacscorts enter into a group setting such as a pug STF with one intent, to drastically minimize the time it takes the "group" to achieve a win. Heals are not the only social aspect of the game -- ensuring that what you do benefits the group -- in whole is. Likewise a tacscort that enters into a STF loaded with self-heals, APO3, instead of ABP and EPW2 is being just as sociopathic -- make no mistake about that. But, of all the classes that would be "forced" to be a sociopath to do their jobs, it is a tacscort simply because he can't rely on heals from others in order to do his best in shortening the time it takes to complete a PUG.
to the OP, Cryptic has stated that they want STO to have more of a single player feel and it does. People join pug stfs not to team and socialize but just to get their rewards they're after and get out asap. It is quite frustrating pugging in this game and as such I try to avoid it when possible and play with my fleet mates or join private Queues like those found on PublicEliteSTF.
Fun recent examples: me pugging first time on Storming the Spire "hey guys, first timer here anything i should know" = "space crickets"
me pugging a few days later "hey guys i'll go shuttle side left" = "space crickets"
As long as the fundamentals of the game are one of a single player game with multiplayer elements, no amount of rewards will change puggers behavior.
This was stated a while back and was intended to have this focus solely on episodes. They added the STF's for the sole purpose to encourage grouping, socialization, and unified strategy.
I'm still amazed the OP hasn't figured out the obviously simple solution to the "problem" as they see it.
The obvious simple solution is "don't pug" but this is obvious not viable to some players. There is an alternative that has already been discussed and met with just as hard of opposition and that is reward scaling based on the time it takes to complete a pug -- again this solves all the issues but then you have people QQ about how if they're paired up with a bunch of cruisers how much it would suck for them -- even though, mind you, there are cruisers here boasting about how they can pump out 12K dps in pugs with ease.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
I'm still amazed the OP hasn't figured out the obviously simple solution to the "problem" as they see it.
The OP has nothing to figure out, because he's either trolling or has a specific directive designed to cater to his own sociopathic agenda. It's more than likely the former, given that frankly he has no hope of ever achieving the latter.
The OP has nothing to figure out, because he's either trolling or has a specific directive designed to cater to his own sociopathic agenda. It's more than likely the former, given that frankly he has no hope of ever achieving the latter.
In short I'd have to say: stop feeding the troll.
Factoid: Just because you don't like the idea, or feel as if the brick has landed squarely on your forehead, doesn't mean I'm a troll. In fact, its rather epic, that when the suggestion of adding anti-afker measures in the game, that it was met with the same opposition of "the OP is just trolling". This actually makes me happy because it means the cockroaches are being flushed out.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
I'm still amazed the OP hasn't figured out the obviously simple solution to the "problem" as they see it.
Actually, I'm amazed by all the people who have yet to realize that the OP is the actual sociopath in question.
"Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
tacscorts enter into a group setting such as a pug STF with one intent, to drastically minimize the time it takes the "group" to achieve a win. Heals are not the only social aspect of the game -- ensuring that what you do benefits the group -- in whole is. Likewise a tacscort that enters into a STF loaded with self-heals, APO3, instead of ABP and EPW2 is being just as sociopathic -- make no mistake about that. But, of all the classes that would be "forced" to be a sociopath to do their jobs, it is a tacscort simply because he can't rely on heals from others in order to do his best in shortening the time it takes to complete a PUG.
So... what I do in my cruiser is sociopathic as a cruiser captain but the same thing is an escort with less shareable heals isn't?
If STO is breeding sociopaths how do we explain a the sociopaths in society that do not play STO and if everyone is a sociopath does that just make us a society and therefore unsociopathic by association?
or maybe, to use amodern fad of thought, its caused by morphic fields? You know thrm fields in nature that means two guys thousands of miles away know to eat a banana by peeling it first.
Most fleets will kick you if your play time is less than a few hours per week -- funny you're advocating for people not to have a real life in this situation by assuming all players whom fleet or premade STFs are an option. If it smells like an elitist, sounds like an elitist, it probably is an elitist.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
So... what I do in my cruiser is sociopathic as a cruiser captain but the same thing is an escort with less shareable heals isn't?
You do know how stupid that sounds... right?
Kinda funny you mention that, but yes -- when your ship is setup both in boff slots and stats to be a tank and healer, choosing to perform another job because it suits "you" is text-book. As I said, if an escort sets himself up to heal, because it suits "HIM" this is also text-book. The fact is, when your sacrificing -200% group effectiveness from your ship to add +100% "personal" effectiveness while in a pug, well you just hit the nail on the head.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
Actually, I'm amazed by all the people who have yet to realize that the OP is the actual sociopath in question.
Too bad for your theory, I have a dog (a white German Shep). If you knew anything about Sociopaths, they generally are incapable of caring for pets other than self-sufficient pets like cats and goldfish. Also, I have 4 children that are growing like weeds -- again this is another trait that generally exonerates folks (the antithesis of sociopathy) from being sociopaths. Hate to be your bubble-popper, but your obvious assumptions are obvious. But it is rather typical for a sociopath to try and implicate others as sociopaths to maintain their facade of normalcy while its not very typical for a sociopath to complain about other sociopaths.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
See, again, the problem is with you. If a fleet has a policy that you don't like, find another fleet. There are so many out there to choose from.
As for "advocating people to not have a real life"... I have a full time job, wife and 2 small kids. I get maybe 2 or 3 hours total a week to play. The fleet I am in is a group of like minded people who don't kick people for "low play time". I also belong to several chat channels which makes it very, very easy to find a team whenever I am on. I'm not doing anything you or anyone else can't do with regard to finding good teammates.
This is utter BS and you know it. I've been in several fleets before -- every single one of the "good fleets" have activity policies that alienate players with lives. And for the record, I've never been kicked out of a fleet either. While fleets with relaxed activity policies generally have the EXACT PROBLEMS PUGS HAVE.
The question remains, being you seem to know your fleets fairly well, why are you playing the ignorance card on this?
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
Kinda funny you mention that, but yes -- when your ship is setup both in boff slots and stats to be a tank and healer, choosing to perform another job because it suits "you" is text-book. As I said, if an escort sets himself up to heal, because it suits "HIM" this is also text-book. The fact is, when your sacrificing -200% group effectiveness from your ship to add +100% "personal" effectiveness while in a pug, well you just hit the nail on the head.
Sure... whatever you say... if I'm a sociopath for flying a cruiser as an engineer to do dps (remembering how I haven't actually said what ship it is...) the fact I can do the escort's 'job' and thereby hold threat so others don't get shot and heal myself and I can heal others and increase the dps of my team mates, then I'd rather be a sociopath thanks.
Sure... whatever you say... if I'm a sociopath for flying a cruiser as an engineer to do dps (remembering how I haven't actually said what ship it is...) the fact I can do the escort's 'job' and thereby hold threat so others don't get shot and heal myself and I can heal others and increase the dps of my team mates, then I'd rather be a sociopath thanks.
Just just stated the ship's class three times in fact. Oh you're in the Battlecruiser are you? What so you're firing cannons or beams hoping that someone else is using APB3? Need I say more?
You're pushing that envelope, no me, I said even in the OP that I realize there are hybrid ships, but that does not mean you are incapable of performing the primary objectives that STO seems to have laid out for that ship's class. You show me how that T5 Battle Cruiser lacks the hull or shields of a non-carrier escort and then show me how you can get APB3 on that battle-cruiser while putting aux2bat3 on an ecort and I'll politely digress. The point still stands, you are playing a ship that has a engineering commander boff, which means you get more slots/power for heals, than an escort could even dream of but of course, without sacrificing any dps.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
Just just stated the ship's class three times in fact. Oh you're in the Battlecruiser are you? What so you're firing cannons or beams hoping that someone else is using APB3? Need I say more?
No. I'm flying a fleet Excel running beams and carrying my own APB2 and helping the team, or did you miss that part?
That's ridiculous. Why are Engineering Captains supposed to heal? The only difference in careers are a small set of abilities, and none of an Engineering Captain's career abilities heal other people.
With that being known, there seems to either be no incentives for a team to heal tacscort builds or they find that it has no benefit to their own scores and end-loot (very sociopathic behavior).
Demanding other people serve you is also very sociopathic - it disregards the preference of others.
If people wanted to play support, then they would support regardless of any in-game incentive/punishment system. Obviously, few in PUGs want to play support. Those who do want to play support would find a group (ie. a Fleet) to support, and filter themselves out of PUGs.
Your original post sounds nothing more than a well dressed whine about dying half the time, and wanting people to heal you.
But it is rather typical for a sociopath to try and implicate others as sociopaths to maintain their facade of normalcy while its not very typical for a sociopath to complain about other sociopaths.
The irony here is staggering. You realize that you started a thread "to try and implicate others as sociopaths", right?
That's ridiculous. Why are Engineering Captains supposed to heal? The only difference in careers are a small set of abilities, and none of an Engineering Captain's career abilities heal other people.
Maybe because cruiser/engineers are best class suited to do so:
Escorts deal damage. They have little healing and usually rely on heals from team mates to survive.<snip>
Cruisers are versatile ships. They can provide healing and they can deal damage. In contrast to an escort a cruiser's damage is constant pressure damage and not spike damage. The following cruiser build is designed to provide your team with heals and damage at the same time.
<snip>
For a cruiser that does a lot of target switching to heal allies, it is a good idea to set the option Auto attack (in Options -> Controls) to "Toggle, non-combat cancels".
Want to make sure I'm understanding you here.... any fleet who doesn't kick people due to low play time is not good? Needing to kick people who don't log in more than once or twice a week is a requirement for a fleet to be good?
You really have no clue to what common sense is do you? Let me break it down for you:
1) Fleet has no activity policy
2) Fleet gets plagued with players logging in erratically
3) 90% of the fleet doesn't know fleet members from Adam
4) Fleet becomes antisocial
5) Fleet experiences same problems in PUGs.
Now...
1) Fleet has strict activity policy (mine does)
2) Fleet's members are online during about the same times
3) Fleet members are near-intimate with each other (lol but seriously)
4) Fleet can nearly read each other's minds
5) Fleet pwns STF's.
Our fleet has relaxed activity policies and we don't have any problems forming teams. We're also spread across factions in STO, as well as our chat channel covering STO, CO and NV. No issues finding teams among ourselves for any of the games. I wouldn't want to guess at how it is in other fleets. I can't imagine that my experience is so radically different from others out there.
I didn't say you would have problems finding a group for STF's, oh dear, no one has this problem regardless of their fleet thanks to pugs -- however, the fleets ability to work together and the tenancy for players to walk the line of their class to provide the greatest benefit to the group is not common of these relaxed fleets, in fact it seems to be completely opposite. Now, sure, you have fun in these fleets, and that's all fine and well, but we're not talking about private or premade STF's either are we? No, we're talking about PUGs, people with those strict time-table fleets that are left pugging during off-peek times where people bring any setup they please into the PUG and then get angry when people leave.
No. I'm flying a fleet Excel running beams and carrying my own APB2 and helping the team, or did you miss that part?
Totally not helping your point, except for the APB2 part, but a fleet Excel running a dps load-out with beams while still having a commander engineer boff is speaking loads.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
EDIT: NVM. I realize you are referring to healing specifically.
No, but it does mean they can use more boff abilities to heal others.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
Totally not helping your point, except for the APB2 part, but a fleet Excel running a dps load-out with beams while still having a commander engineer boff is speaking loads.
Do tell me why if not for dps does the fleet Excel have four TACTICAL console slots...
Do tell me why if not for dps does the fleet Excel have four TACTICAL console slots...
Can you load DHCs in those Tactical slots? No? Just stop it.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
Factoid: Just because you don't like the idea, or feel as if the brick has landed squarely on your forehead, doesn't mean I'm a troll.
Your writings over the course of the recent threads that you've started are like a sample case for discourse 101. You might want to more thoroughly plan out your agenda when it comes to future efforts, because the anomalies are too easy to spot.
Your writings over the course of the recent threads that you've started are like a sample case for discourse 101. You might want to more thoroughly plan out your agenda when it comes to future efforts, because the anomalies are too easy to spot.
Let me get this straight, because I don't make every effort to be politically correct, I'm wrong? Oh no, I don't think so. You won't find a single reply I've made discrediting someone's facts or ideas because they presented it in an honest and straight forward manner with no consideration of political correctness injected -- never. Facts aren't debatable, end of story.
But here is another fact, the guy that started the thread about AFKers in STFs -- remember him? Yeah, he was called a troll too and met the same harsh opposition, surprisingly from some of the same people opposing this.
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
Can you load DHCs in those Tactical slots? No? Just stop it.
Right then, so you would rather I ran no weapons (for all the good they would do if I did what you want) and run only heals for you and thereby be useless to a team?
I'd rather be useful in a way I enjoy and if that makes me a sociopath then I'd rather be a sociopath and be useful, thanks.
Right then, so you would rather I ran no weapons (for all the good they would do if I did what you want) and run only heals for you and thereby be useless to a team?
I'd rather be useful in a way I enjoy and if that makes me a sociopath then I'd rather be a sociopath and be useful, thanks.
Yeah, sure equip no weapons -- indeed what was said. I said stop being silly, yet you get sillier. You could get 10 (maybe it was 8 IDK, not debating the semantics) tac consoles on a beam array boat and still couldn't match the dps of 4 DHC's. Your shenanigans aren't working.
I'm saying I don't care what cruiser you're in, if you're not healing your team mates or make a d-bag comment that I witnessed in a team just 2 weeks ago such as, "I'm not going to heal because I won't get first place" this system is broken as-is, and you're a d-bag for even entertaining the idea that it is kosher to throw a team mate under the bus because of his ship/class.
You know what your problem is right? Besides failure to read and understand you are assuming many things about me here:
1) That this thread somehow benefits me
2) That I don't have every class/ship/faction available
3) That I have no knowledge of the other classes and ships
You see, I have a fed tactical (yes it is my favorite), fed engineer, fed sci, rom tact, rom engineer, rom sci, etc for KDF. All VA's mind you, all with either a t5 fleet ship or comparable cstore ship. The problem is, I don't play these classes selfishly, when in a cruiser I do my best to tank and heal those who catch agro -- obviously if I don't have agro, its already my fault that they're tanking so tossing them a heal is the least I can do. When playing a sci ship/captain its much like a hybrid escort / cruiser -- while making sure I'm on top of the spot heals, I'm also ensuring that the mob is debuffed, while trying to put out as much dps as possible (which isn't much and is why I focus on order, heals, and debuffs) and providing some order to the fight with gravity wells.
The problem being, the moment one enters into an elite pug, those not playing with consideration of the team in mind, are effectively LEECHING because there is no way in hell they would complete the pug with 4 others like themselves (theory tested several times by purposely leaving and receiving hate tells blaming me for them loosing)
Said NO to Arc. Gets punished by not being given a free outfit, free lobi, and free shuttle. Now forced to use Arc's site when trying to get to STO site. Still not rewards for beta testing the Arc website by force. Bravo Cryptic.
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Fun recent examples: me pugging first time on Storming the Spire "hey guys, first timer here anything i should know" = "space crickets"
me pugging a few days later "hey guys i'll go shuttle side left" = "space crickets"
As long as the fundamentals of the game are one of a single player game with multiplayer elements, no amount of rewards will change puggers behavior.
tacscorts enter into a group setting such as a pug STF with one intent, to drastically minimize the time it takes the "group" to achieve a win. Heals are not the only social aspect of the game -- ensuring that what you do benefits the group -- in whole is. Likewise a tacscort that enters into a STF loaded with self-heals, APO3, instead of ABP and EPW2 is being just as sociopathic -- make no mistake about that. But, of all the classes that would be "forced" to be a sociopath to do their jobs, it is a tacscort simply because he can't rely on heals from others in order to do his best in shortening the time it takes to complete a PUG.
I declare again the point is in your own post.
This was stated a while back and was intended to have this focus solely on episodes. They added the STF's for the sole purpose to encourage grouping, socialization, and unified strategy.
The obvious simple solution is "don't pug" but this is obvious not viable to some players. There is an alternative that has already been discussed and met with just as hard of opposition and that is reward scaling based on the time it takes to complete a pug -- again this solves all the issues but then you have people QQ about how if they're paired up with a bunch of cruisers how much it would suck for them -- even though, mind you, there are cruisers here boasting about how they can pump out 12K dps in pugs with ease.
The OP has nothing to figure out, because he's either trolling or has a specific directive designed to cater to his own sociopathic agenda. It's more than likely the former, given that frankly he has no hope of ever achieving the latter.
In short I'd have to say: stop feeding the troll.
Factoid: Just because you don't like the idea, or feel as if the brick has landed squarely on your forehead, doesn't mean I'm a troll. In fact, its rather epic, that when the suggestion of adding anti-afker measures in the game, that it was met with the same opposition of "the OP is just trolling". This actually makes me happy because it means the cockroaches are being flushed out.
Actually, I'm amazed by all the people who have yet to realize that the OP is the actual sociopath in question.
So... what I do in my cruiser is sociopathic as a cruiser captain but the same thing is an escort with less shareable heals isn't?
You do know how stupid that sounds... right?
R.I.P
R.I.P
Most fleets will kick you if your play time is less than a few hours per week -- funny you're advocating for people not to have a real life in this situation by assuming all players whom fleet or premade STFs are an option. If it smells like an elitist, sounds like an elitist, it probably is an elitist.
Kinda funny you mention that, but yes -- when your ship is setup both in boff slots and stats to be a tank and healer, choosing to perform another job because it suits "you" is text-book. As I said, if an escort sets himself up to heal, because it suits "HIM" this is also text-book. The fact is, when your sacrificing -200% group effectiveness from your ship to add +100% "personal" effectiveness while in a pug, well you just hit the nail on the head.
Too bad for your theory, I have a dog (a white German Shep). If you knew anything about Sociopaths, they generally are incapable of caring for pets other than self-sufficient pets like cats and goldfish. Also, I have 4 children that are growing like weeds -- again this is another trait that generally exonerates folks (the antithesis of sociopathy) from being sociopaths. Hate to be your bubble-popper, but your obvious assumptions are obvious. But it is rather typical for a sociopath to try and implicate others as sociopaths to maintain their facade of normalcy while its not very typical for a sociopath to complain about other sociopaths.
This is utter BS and you know it. I've been in several fleets before -- every single one of the "good fleets" have activity policies that alienate players with lives. And for the record, I've never been kicked out of a fleet either. While fleets with relaxed activity policies generally have the EXACT PROBLEMS PUGS HAVE.
The question remains, being you seem to know your fleets fairly well, why are you playing the ignorance card on this?
Sure... whatever you say... if I'm a sociopath for flying a cruiser as an engineer to do dps (remembering how I haven't actually said what ship it is...) the fact I can do the escort's 'job' and thereby hold threat so others don't get shot and heal myself and I can heal others and increase the dps of my team mates, then I'd rather be a sociopath thanks.
Just just stated the ship's class three times in fact. Oh you're in the Battlecruiser are you? What so you're firing cannons or beams hoping that someone else is using APB3? Need I say more?
You're pushing that envelope, no me, I said even in the OP that I realize there are hybrid ships, but that does not mean you are incapable of performing the primary objectives that STO seems to have laid out for that ship's class. You show me how that T5 Battle Cruiser lacks the hull or shields of a non-carrier escort and then show me how you can get APB3 on that battle-cruiser while putting aux2bat3 on an ecort and I'll politely digress. The point still stands, you are playing a ship that has a engineering commander boff, which means you get more slots/power for heals, than an escort could even dream of but of course, without sacrificing any dps.
No. I'm flying a fleet Excel running beams and carrying my own APB2 and helping the team, or did you miss that part?
That's ridiculous. Why are Engineering Captains supposed to heal? The only difference in careers are a small set of abilities, and none of an Engineering Captain's career abilities heal other people.
Demanding other people serve you is also very sociopathic - it disregards the preference of others.
If people wanted to play support, then they would support regardless of any in-game incentive/punishment system. Obviously, few in PUGs want to play support. Those who do want to play support would find a group (ie. a Fleet) to support, and filter themselves out of PUGs.
Your original post sounds nothing more than a well dressed whine about dying half the time, and wanting people to heal you.
The irony here is staggering. You realize that you started a thread "to try and implicate others as sociopaths", right?
Maybe because cruiser/engineers are best class suited to do so:
http://hilbertguide.com/#Cruiser
You really have no clue to what common sense is do you? Let me break it down for you:
1) Fleet has no activity policy
2) Fleet gets plagued with players logging in erratically
3) 90% of the fleet doesn't know fleet members from Adam
4) Fleet becomes antisocial
5) Fleet experiences same problems in PUGs.
Now...
1) Fleet has strict activity policy (mine does)
2) Fleet's members are online during about the same times
3) Fleet members are near-intimate with each other (lol but seriously)
4) Fleet can nearly read each other's minds
5) Fleet pwns STF's.
I didn't say you would have problems finding a group for STF's, oh dear, no one has this problem regardless of their fleet thanks to pugs -- however, the fleets ability to work together and the tenancy for players to walk the line of their class to provide the greatest benefit to the group is not common of these relaxed fleets, in fact it seems to be completely opposite. Now, sure, you have fun in these fleets, and that's all fine and well, but we're not talking about private or premade STF's either are we? No, we're talking about PUGs, people with those strict time-table fleets that are left pugging during off-peek times where people bring any setup they please into the PUG and then get angry when people leave.
Totally not helping your point, except for the APB2 part, but a fleet Excel running a dps load-out with beams while still having a commander engineer boff is speaking loads.
No, but it does mean they can use more boff abilities to heal others.
Do tell me why if not for dps does the fleet Excel have four TACTICAL console slots...
Can you load DHCs in those Tactical slots? No? Just stop it.
Your writings over the course of the recent threads that you've started are like a sample case for discourse 101. You might want to more thoroughly plan out your agenda when it comes to future efforts, because the anomalies are too easy to spot.
Let me get this straight, because I don't make every effort to be politically correct, I'm wrong? Oh no, I don't think so. You won't find a single reply I've made discrediting someone's facts or ideas because they presented it in an honest and straight forward manner with no consideration of political correctness injected -- never. Facts aren't debatable, end of story.
But here is another fact, the guy that started the thread about AFKers in STFs -- remember him? Yeah, he was called a troll too and met the same harsh opposition, surprisingly from some of the same people opposing this.
Right then, so you would rather I ran no weapons (for all the good they would do if I did what you want) and run only heals for you and thereby be useless to a team?
I'd rather be useful in a way I enjoy and if that makes me a sociopath then I'd rather be a sociopath and be useful, thanks.
Yeah, sure equip no weapons -- indeed what was said. I said stop being silly, yet you get sillier. You could get 10 (maybe it was 8 IDK, not debating the semantics) tac consoles on a beam array boat and still couldn't match the dps of 4 DHC's. Your shenanigans aren't working.
I'm saying I don't care what cruiser you're in, if you're not healing your team mates or make a d-bag comment that I witnessed in a team just 2 weeks ago such as, "I'm not going to heal because I won't get first place" this system is broken as-is, and you're a d-bag for even entertaining the idea that it is kosher to throw a team mate under the bus because of his ship/class.
You know what your problem is right? Besides failure to read and understand you are assuming many things about me here:
1) That this thread somehow benefits me
2) That I don't have every class/ship/faction available
3) That I have no knowledge of the other classes and ships
You see, I have a fed tactical (yes it is my favorite), fed engineer, fed sci, rom tact, rom engineer, rom sci, etc for KDF. All VA's mind you, all with either a t5 fleet ship or comparable cstore ship. The problem is, I don't play these classes selfishly, when in a cruiser I do my best to tank and heal those who catch agro -- obviously if I don't have agro, its already my fault that they're tanking so tossing them a heal is the least I can do. When playing a sci ship/captain its much like a hybrid escort / cruiser -- while making sure I'm on top of the spot heals, I'm also ensuring that the mob is debuffed, while trying to put out as much dps as possible (which isn't much and is why I focus on order, heals, and debuffs) and providing some order to the fight with gravity wells.
The problem being, the moment one enters into an elite pug, those not playing with consideration of the team in mind, are effectively LEECHING because there is no way in hell they would complete the pug with 4 others like themselves (theory tested several times by purposely leaving and receiving hate tells blaming me for them loosing)