This ship is larger than the whale probe from Star Trek IV, bigger than V'ger even.
The fortress ship comes in at over 7 times longer than a Super Star Destroyer, and has a length that is about 10% longer than the diameter of the Deathstar Mk.1.
The fortress ship is between 7 and 8 times longer than the Titans in Eve.
Nah, the Death Star 1 officially is now 160km wide.
But thinking about it, it doesn't matter. A Voth ship could phase through a superlaser hit. And then you just ram the Death Star for Massive Damage :cool:.
I think it is telling that the image of the ships facing the Voth are the new Romulan faction's Schimitar, the new fed Battle Cruiser, and two kdf ships provided at launch nearly 4 years ago.
Now that we have a giant ship like the Voth Fortress, it is possible that in the future that V'Ger could somehow return, at that size and scale? In a future season or featured Episode?
It would have to be a time travel mission....but I doubt it. After all V'Dec'lia ascended to another level of consciousness and reality as a new life form.
Now if the aliens responsible for V'Gers upgrade wanna show up. I think we'd lose.
I will be sad if I cannot by a City Ship from the C-store for 10,000 Zen.
(250 forward weapons, 175 aft. Cannot equip cannons. 300 device slots, 92 engineering slots, 1 science slot, 174 tactical slots. BOFF seating: 35 Commander Universal stations. Comes with [console -- WAH WHAAAAA] every time you destroy another player all they here is WAH-WAAAAAAA.)
If ship size is determinant of cost. A scarcely kilometer long Odyssey is 5,000 zen. So a 134 kilometer ship should be something like....67,000 zen.
And looking at that, can you imagine how long it will take to outfit it with mkXII weapons?
And how would this be for hilarious, all of that equipment.....and one Voth Warp Core
Based on the size of Halo's U.N.S.C. Infinity, which is 5.7 km long and has 17000 crew, the 135 km city ship could house about 400000 people. That seems off to me, seeing as a 3km Borg cube could house up to 130000 crew, though I doubt the Voth would force their citizens into dwelling in alcoves. Say a Borg cube of 3km sustained 80000 crew, doing the math, a city ship could, by those standards, support a compliment of roughly 3.6 million. Dayum. Das big. But if it's as big as that diagram shows, the hell with the Borg. To whoever made that post about why the Voth aren't the lead power in the delta quadrant...in all seriousness, the Feds need to take one of these, and convert it into a blockade runner. Install primary, secondary, and tertiary redundant shielding to the fore of the ship, reroute all non-essential power to forward shields, install ablative armoring, and back that with forcefield shrouded reinforced hull armor. Instant anti-Borg transwarp battering ram. With that, you could literally PLOW through a TACTICAL FUSION CUBE. I can only say, that after this, we can only logically blame all of our galaxy's assimilation issues on the assumed-duty-shirking Voth.
A friend of mine once pointed out Yoda's lack of expedience in Attack of the Clones as "Malingering". I believe the Trope is called Achilles in his Tent.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
This ship is larger than the whale probe from Star Trek IV, bigger than V'ger even.
The fortress ship comes in at over 7 times longer than a Super Star Destroyer, and has a length that is about 10% longer than the diameter of the Deathstar Mk.1.
The fortress ship is between 7 and 8 times longer than the Titans in Eve.
shots fired at all other scifi, and scifi games :cool:
and last but not least (for right now) because this is second to none the most awesome track in existence and only needs one word for it's epicness to be known...
EDIT2: In all seriousness...I say the Escorts and any ships with at least a Lt. Commander Universal or Tactical BOff slot runs Torp Spread 3 and Romulan Hyper-Plasma Torps...because nothing says "Torp you and the Dinosaur you rode in on!" like a Starfleet/Romulan/Klingon Torpedo Massacre.
EDIT3: Bonus points if it is Scimitars/B'rel Retrofits/T'varo Retrofits with Enhanced Cloak.
EDIT4: Dear Cryptic STO Ship Design Team...I would like to request that the 4th Anniversary is every faction getting access to an Omega/Dyson Strike Force/SCE and KDF/RR-equivalent designed Carrier that is a shoutout to the Macross franchise with it's own Valkryie Fighters and a mission to pick up Advanced versions with Cannon Rapid Fire II and Torp Spread II with Antiproton Dual Cannons and Hyper Quantum Micro-Torps. Special console allows it to Transform into a Robot and punch things.
So... Does the Federation commit mass murder every time it shoots one down?
Also, what the hell is the point of a ship that big?
Pretty much. But they shouldn't fly a country into a battle zone.
The Voth have found a new homeworld, but I think they're still primarily a space borne species. 65 million years of space travel, starting with a mass immigration that they don't remember, they could have cultural remnants that they don't even understand. Like in One Piece with the Void Century, the Voth have undergone changes in their society that they don't even comprehend.
If you've already lost one homeworld, I doubt your species would want to put all their eggs in one basket. Especially since they're so resistant to change.
Alternatively they could just think that it is just as logical for a city to function as a starship as for it to sit static on the surface of a planet. A ship that size could have thirty shopping malls, two zoos, a lake, eight universities, four voting districts, a farm, a supermarket, twelve hospitals, with four egg nurseries, and a partridge-in-a-pear-tree.
And unlike Captain Picard's misgivings about families on a Galaxy class, a Voth City Ship or Fortress Ship with an absolute defense like the phase cloak could park inside a supernova and it would be about as dangerous as fireworks (unless even a phase cloak can't dodge a supernova). Or it could just...y'know shoot with all of its weapons. Can you imagine a full broadside from that thing? Like a fleet from Macross.
I still think this fortress ship is one of the coolest hand gun designs about...
Megatron Class
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
Well,
it may be called a ship, but as far as the mission is concerned, it is just a big object. It does not fly. Could as well be jut a structure on the surface of the sphere.
I'm betting that by Thanksgiving, people are going to be running this mission in small craft just for the 'Trench Run'/'Death Star'/'Kodan Armada' feel... And talking about how awesome they are once they've beaten it as such...
Ah, that's the one. Season's not even out yet and people are already making plans for it. Called that one, I did...
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. Your Allies , up there on the Dyson sphere, are walking into a trap, as is your Federation Fleet . It was *I* who allowed the Romulans to know the location of the Omega molecules. It is quite safe from your pitiful little band. An entire legion of my best Dinosaurs awaits them.
Oh, I'm afraid the Voth Fortress will be quite operational when your friends arrive.
I am afraid that this is not a good direction, because firing RANGE is only 10KM. It makes from STO game of a dogfights. These big ships are maybe epic but inappropriate to play. Every ship larger than 500 m is too big because firing range in STO is only 10 km (in tv show 300000km )
Did one of the devs own up to being the 40k enthusiast in the end? lol.
I couldn't stop laughing to this. Indeed it sure looks like the voth got their own craftworlds. In a way that was what it was all about craftworlds *cough* :P
"You ask why we give our ships computer normal emotions. Do you really want a warship incapable of loyalty?"
Did one of the devs own up to being the 40k enthusiast in the end? lol.
Actually it looks a bit like a Chaos Grand cruiser.
Just a lot bigger, depending if Grand cruisers are 7(Rogue trader) or 13(black Library) kilometers long.
Based on the size of Halo's U.N.S.C. Infinity, which is 5.7 km long and has 17000 crew, the 135 km city ship could house about 400000 people. That seems off to me, seeing as a 3km Borg cube could house up to 130000 crew, though I doubt the Voth would force their citizens into dwelling in alcoves. Say a Borg cube of 3km sustained 80000 crew, doing the math, a city ship could, by those standards, support a compliment of roughly 3.6 million. Dayum. Das big. But if it's as big as that diagram shows, the hell with the Borg. To whoever made that post about why the Voth aren't the lead power in the delta quadrant...in all seriousness, the Feds need to take one of these, and convert it into a blockade runner. Install primary, secondary, and tertiary redundant shielding to the fore of the ship, reroute all non-essential power to forward shields, install ablative armoring, and back that with forcefield shrouded reinforced hull armor. Instant anti-Borg transwarp battering ram. With that, you could literally PLOW through a TACTICAL FUSION CUBE. I can only say, that after this, we can only logically blame all of our galaxy's assimilation issues on the assumed-duty-shirking Voth.
I don't know nearly nothin', but a borg cube isn't really a model for a living society. From the little that I think I do know, Borg living appointments are little more than a space to stand, they (likely) eat Nutripaste (tm) or 'Soylent Borg' (tm) (lol, came up with that one just now!) and really don't need much in terms of recreational spaces of lounging areas... so they probably fit 100-1000x the number of people into a normal living space.
I suspect there are dissertation-level analyses of this stuff out there (wave arms dramatically) in the Big Internet World; I just haven't had a chance to look...
Please reconsider ARC. Please make it optional, at the least. PLEASE.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
Pretty much. But they shouldn't fly a country into a battle zone.
The Voth have found a new homeworld, but I think they're still primarily a space borne species. 65 million years of space travel, starting with a mass immigration that they don't remember, they could have cultural remnants that they don't even understand. Like in One Piece with the Void Century, the Voth have undergone changes in their society that they don't even comprehend.
If you've already lost one homeworld, I doubt your species would want to put all their eggs in one basket. Especially since they're so resistant to change.
Alternatively they could just think that it is just as logical for a city to function as a starship as for it to sit static on the surface of a planet. A ship that size could have thirty shopping malls, two zoos, a lake, eight universities, four voting districts, a farm, a supermarket, twelve hospitals, with four egg nurseries, and a partridge-in-a-pear-tree.
And unlike Captain Picard's misgivings about families on a Galaxy class, a Voth City Ship or Fortress Ship with an absolute defense like the phase cloak could park inside a supernova and it would be about as dangerous as fireworks (unless even a phase cloak can't dodge a supernova). Or it could just...y'know shoot with all of its weapons. Can you imagine a full broadside from that thing? Like a fleet from Macross.
Megatron Class
As a battleship (which this thing seems to be), a ship that big would serve two purposes:
1. House and power the most powerful weapons imaginable to the creators.
2. Use whatever space remains to hold a fleet of battleships.
I am afraid that this is not a good direction, because firing RANGE is only 10KM. It makes from STO game of a dogfights. These big ships are maybe epic but inappropriate to play. Every ship larger than 500 m is too big because firing range in STO is only 10 km (in tv show 300000km )
You're not going to fly a Fortress, period. You're going to do trench runs directed at a stationary prop dotted with tons of easily (and less easily) destroyed hardpoints - and filled with smaller Voth starships on the inside.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
With a bit of internet research, you can get some fairly reliable rules of thumb about ship size verses crew for fairly modern ships. Warships tend to be fairly low to the water and not have much space. These ships hover around a ratio of 2 crew for every 1 foot of length. If you go by that, and given the length of 134.5 KM which converts to 441,273 ft, then this ship would have a crew of about 882,546.
On the other hand, if you look at some cruise ships, they have a crew to foot ratio of about 4 to 1, including all the passengers. Going by that, you would get a crew of about 1,765,092. And that's not taking into account the amount of space some of those people take up with staterooms, and all the shops and dining rooms, etc.
Personally, I would say that the cruise ship figure would be better given that the general shape of the ship is more like a cruise liner than a warship, but that's not factoring in the internal hanger bays and such that this ship has either. Still, I think a crew of at least a million wouldn't be that far off either way.
As for the borg, yeah going by what is shown in the TV shows, Borg living space is about 7 ft by 1 ft by 1 ft, or 7 ft cubed. Doing some math, and going for the ludicrous point of borg ships being a thin walled cube full of nothing but people, and adding its 3KM a side, you could cram in 136,213,714,497 people. So adding back in all the stuff you need for a ship, I have no problem with Borg Cubes having 130,000 drones stuffed in there.
Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. Your Allies , up there on the Dyson sphere, are walking into a trap, as is your Federation Fleet . It was *I* who allowed the Romulans to know the location of the Omega molecules. It is quite safe from your pitiful little band. An entire legion of my best Dinosaurs awaits them.
Oh, I'm afraid the Voth Fortress will be quite operational when your friends arrive.
Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL fortress ship!
I am afraid that this is not a good direction, because firing RANGE is only 10KM. It makes from STO game of a dogfights. These big ships are maybe epic but inappropriate to play. Every ship larger than 500 m is too big because firing range in STO is only 10 km (in tv show 300000km )
Your statement is not totally acceptable. The Galaxy class is itself 642 m in length. Though I agree 10 km is too short, it also makes sense in the scheme of the game and the franchise. Most of the top tier end game ships with the exception of Birds of Prey and escorts are gonna go right through the 500m mark.
While phaser range is 300k km and torpedo range is longer, that's also an extreme distance for a ship to dodge. Most battles in the shows actually took place at the knife fight ranges of about 10km. Which makes sense because in ships that move at relativistic speeds and have faster than light sensors a whole light second is actually plenty of time for a computer to dodge.
That said extending range to fifteen km (and sensor range to 20km) probably isn't a bad idea. And especially against the Fortress a much longer firing range makes sense, since it isn't going anywhere....unless it phases.
I don't know nearly nothin', but a borg cube isn't really a model for a living society. From the little that I think I do know, Borg living appointments are little more than a space to stand, they (likely) eat Nutripaste (tm) or 'Soylent Borg' (tm) (lol, came up with that one just now!) and really don't need much in terms of recreational spaces of lounging areas... so they probably fit 100-1000x the number of people into a normal living space.
I suspect there are dissertation-level analyses of this stuff out there (wave arms dramatically) in the Big Internet World; I just haven't had a chance to look...
Borg don't eat. Remember Seven of Nine retained her regeneration alcove for years, and had to be slowly reintroduced to eating because her digestive system had essentially atrophied from eighteen years of disuse.
Think more along the lines of rechargeable vacuum cleaners always plugged into a wall. Then stacked.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
I just realized that for the whole Sphere...we could all loop the soundtrack of Eureka 7 (first series, Astral Ocean, and the PS2 games)...and I will be disappointed if there is not a USS/RRW/IKS Gekkostate in there doing it's thing.
The CityShip is 135km long. Let's say 40km wide (I don't know for sure, just a rough guess.)
135x40 = 5400 square kilometers.
5400kmsq = 2085misq
2085x27012 = 56320020
Now, you might say that the Voth Ship isn't flat, it's 3d, and so we should be measureing cubic miles or something. Keep in mind that NYC isn't exactly flat either. Large buildings hold many people on a small square footage. Same for the Voth Ship. Though I would say the Voth Ship is likely more dense than NYC, so 56 million may be conservative.
This ship is larger than the whale probe from Star Trek IV, bigger than V'ger even.
The fortress ship comes in at over 7 times longer than a Super Star Destroyer, and has a length that is about 10% longer than the diameter of the Deathstar Mk.1.
The fortress ship is between 7 and 8 times longer than the Titans in Eve.
I'm afraid it's still smaller than V'GER. Depending on which cut of the motion picture you see, V'GER was stated to be either 2 AU, or 82 AU in diameter (granted this was just the exterior energy cloud, but it was still part of V'GER).
Which basically means, V'GER is the same size of the Dyson Sphere itself, or a hell of a lot larger.
Unless you are talking purely about the smaller craft in the cloud centre. In which case, we could just throw the Unimatrix ships in as it.
I look forward to throwing my Sovie into this monster.
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. Your Allies , up there on the Dyson sphere, are walking into a trap, as is your Federation Fleet . It was *I* who allowed the Romulans to know the location of the Omega molecules. It is quite safe from your pitiful little band. An entire legion of my best Dinosaurs awaits them.
Oh, I'm afraid the Voth Fortress will be quite operational when your friends arrive.
The CityShip is 135km long. Let's say 40km wide (I don't know for sure, just a rough guess.)
135x40 = 5400 square kilometers.
5400kmsq = 2085misq
2085x27012 = 56320020
Now, you might say that the Voth Ship isn't flat, it's 3d, and so we should be measureing cubic miles or something. Keep in mind that NYC isn't exactly flat either. Large buildings hold many people on a small square footage. Same for the Voth Ship. Though I would say the Voth Ship is likely more dense than NYC, so 56 million may be conservative.
lol, 1 torpedo and 11 mil. voths die ???
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Nah, the Death Star 1 officially is now 160km wide.
But thinking about it, it doesn't matter. A Voth ship could phase through a superlaser hit. And then you just ram the Death Star for Massive Damage :cool:.
What is the Prometheus there? Chopped Liver? ^WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE???!?!?????
It would have to be a time travel mission....but I doubt it. After all V'Dec'lia ascended to another level of consciousness and reality as a new life form.
Now if the aliens responsible for V'Gers upgrade wanna show up. I think we'd lose.
And looking at that, can you imagine how long it will take to outfit it with mkXII weapons?
And how would this be for hilarious, all of that equipment.....and one Voth Warp Core
A friend of mine once pointed out Yoda's lack of expedience in Attack of the Clones as "Malingering". I believe the Trope is called Achilles in his Tent.
shots fired at all other scifi, and scifi games :cool:
Alternative Songs for Looping or making a playlist for "The Breach" STF:
1. Sorario Days Tengen Toppa Edition
2. The Unsung War from Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War
3. Take a Shot followed by Don't Be Long followed by Ace of Aces
4. Rex Tremedae Megalith Agnus Dei from Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies
and last but not least (for right now) because this is second to none the most awesome track in existence and only needs one word for it's epicness to be known...
5. Zero
EDIT: Another one for the list
6. The Liberation of Gracemaria
EDIT2: In all seriousness...I say the Escorts and any ships with at least a Lt. Commander Universal or Tactical BOff slot runs Torp Spread 3 and Romulan Hyper-Plasma Torps...because nothing says "Torp you and the Dinosaur you rode in on!" like a Starfleet/Romulan/Klingon Torpedo Massacre.
EDIT3: Bonus points if it is Scimitars/B'rel Retrofits/T'varo Retrofits with Enhanced Cloak.
EDIT4: Dear Cryptic STO Ship Design Team...I would like to request that the 4th Anniversary is every faction getting access to an Omega/Dyson Strike Force/SCE and KDF/RR-equivalent designed Carrier that is a shoutout to the Macross franchise with it's own Valkryie Fighters and a mission to pick up Advanced versions with Cannon Rapid Fire II and Torp Spread II with Antiproton Dual Cannons and Hyper Quantum Micro-Torps. Special console allows it to Transform into a Robot and punch things.
Also, what the hell is the point of a ship that big?
Immigrants...
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The Voth have found a new homeworld, but I think they're still primarily a space borne species. 65 million years of space travel, starting with a mass immigration that they don't remember, they could have cultural remnants that they don't even understand. Like in One Piece with the Void Century, the Voth have undergone changes in their society that they don't even comprehend.
If you've already lost one homeworld, I doubt your species would want to put all their eggs in one basket. Especially since they're so resistant to change.
Alternatively they could just think that it is just as logical for a city to function as a starship as for it to sit static on the surface of a planet. A ship that size could have thirty shopping malls, two zoos, a lake, eight universities, four voting districts, a farm, a supermarket, twelve hospitals, with four egg nurseries, and a partridge-in-a-pear-tree.
And unlike Captain Picard's misgivings about families on a Galaxy class, a Voth City Ship or Fortress Ship with an absolute defense like the phase cloak could park inside a supernova and it would be about as dangerous as fireworks (unless even a phase cloak can't dodge a supernova). Or it could just...y'know shoot with all of its weapons. Can you imagine a full broadside from that thing? Like a fleet from Macross.
Megatron Class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_R-G_i4Xk
*Clicks his stopwatch*
What did I say earlier, something about it comes out the twelfth and shuttle runs before Thanksgiving?
Ah, that's the one. Season's not even out yet and people are already making plans for it. Called that one, I did...
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Oh, I'm afraid the Voth Fortress will be quite operational when your friends arrive.
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Did one of the devs own up to being the 40k enthusiast in the end? lol.
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It's no fun getting stuck all the time.:mad:
I couldn't stop laughing to this. Indeed it sure looks like the voth got their own craftworlds. In a way that was what it was all about craftworlds *cough* :P
Actually it looks a bit like a Chaos Grand cruiser.
Just a lot bigger, depending if Grand cruisers are 7(Rogue trader) or 13(black Library) kilometers long.
Or any chaos Cruiser like this : http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130407023221/warhammer40k/images/d/db/Pestilaan_Light_Cruiser.jpg
Does this mean we can get a Khornate Tyrannosaurus...err..Virinosaurus rex?
I don't know nearly nothin', but a borg cube isn't really a model for a living society. From the little that I think I do know, Borg living appointments are little more than a space to stand, they (likely) eat Nutripaste (tm) or 'Soylent Borg' (tm) (lol, came up with that one just now!) and really don't need much in terms of recreational spaces of lounging areas... so they probably fit 100-1000x the number of people into a normal living space.
I suspect there are dissertation-level analyses of this stuff out there (wave arms dramatically) in the Big Internet World; I just haven't had a chance to look...
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
As a battleship (which this thing seems to be), a ship that big would serve two purposes:
1. House and power the most powerful weapons imaginable to the creators.
2. Use whatever space remains to hold a fleet of battleships.
You're not going to fly a Fortress, period. You're going to do trench runs directed at a stationary prop dotted with tons of easily (and less easily) destroyed hardpoints - and filled with smaller Voth starships on the inside.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
On the other hand, if you look at some cruise ships, they have a crew to foot ratio of about 4 to 1, including all the passengers. Going by that, you would get a crew of about 1,765,092. And that's not taking into account the amount of space some of those people take up with staterooms, and all the shops and dining rooms, etc.
Personally, I would say that the cruise ship figure would be better given that the general shape of the ship is more like a cruise liner than a warship, but that's not factoring in the internal hanger bays and such that this ship has either. Still, I think a crew of at least a million wouldn't be that far off either way.
As for the borg, yeah going by what is shown in the TV shows, Borg living space is about 7 ft by 1 ft by 1 ft, or 7 ft cubed. Doing some math, and going for the ludicrous point of borg ships being a thin walled cube full of nothing but people, and adding its 3KM a side, you could cram in 136,213,714,497 people. So adding back in all the stuff you need for a ship, I have no problem with Borg Cubes having 130,000 drones stuffed in there.
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Your statement is not totally acceptable. The Galaxy class is itself 642 m in length. Though I agree 10 km is too short, it also makes sense in the scheme of the game and the franchise. Most of the top tier end game ships with the exception of Birds of Prey and escorts are gonna go right through the 500m mark.
While phaser range is 300k km and torpedo range is longer, that's also an extreme distance for a ship to dodge. Most battles in the shows actually took place at the knife fight ranges of about 10km. Which makes sense because in ships that move at relativistic speeds and have faster than light sensors a whole light second is actually plenty of time for a computer to dodge.
That said extending range to fifteen km (and sensor range to 20km) probably isn't a bad idea. And especially against the Fortress a much longer firing range makes sense, since it isn't going anywhere....unless it phases.
Borg don't eat. Remember Seven of Nine retained her regeneration alcove for years, and had to be slowly reintroduced to eating because her digestive system had essentially atrophied from eighteen years of disuse.
Think more along the lines of rechargeable vacuum cleaners always plugged into a wall. Then stacked.
It's a "CityShip." You guys are focused on the ship, not the city.
NYC has an average population per square mile (as of 2010) of 27,012.
The CityShip is 135km long. Let's say 40km wide (I don't know for sure, just a rough guess.)
135x40 = 5400 square kilometers.
5400kmsq = 2085misq
2085x27012 = 56320020
Now, you might say that the Voth Ship isn't flat, it's 3d, and so we should be measureing cubic miles or something. Keep in mind that NYC isn't exactly flat either. Large buildings hold many people on a small square footage. Same for the Voth Ship. Though I would say the Voth Ship is likely more dense than NYC, so 56 million may be conservative.
I'm afraid it's still smaller than V'GER. Depending on which cut of the motion picture you see, V'GER was stated to be either 2 AU, or 82 AU in diameter (granted this was just the exterior energy cloud, but it was still part of V'GER).
Which basically means, V'GER is the same size of the Dyson Sphere itself, or a hell of a lot larger.
Unless you are talking purely about the smaller craft in the cloud centre. In which case, we could just throw the Unimatrix ships in as it.
I look forward to throwing my Sovie into this monster.
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I suspect it will take 30 seconds flying at full impulse to even navigate along its length. :P
It's a trap!
lol, 1 torpedo and 11 mil. voths die ???
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i'd say ... ALL OF THEM !!!
also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9yk9kJ3oFc