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twoblindmonks
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What is everone's opinions on looks? Mine is *buy buy buy* so long as the stats arent too messed up.
By the way, anyone have any errant tweets, posts or other on the stats?
By the way, anyone have any errant tweets, posts or other on the stats?
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A federation battlecruiser is the very definition of an oxymoron.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
As far as leaks, the Cloak console on Tribble server is listing Battlecruiser and Fleet Battlecruiser on its requirements to equip list.
This source says:
The last ship wasn't a 3 pack.
I can't really see what else they can do with a new cruiser to make people want to buy it other than adding cannons to be honest. Plus, KDF battle cruisers can use cannons, so makes sence using this specific designation will mean the same.
Looks wise, seems ok, I'd hazard a guess and say that the much asked for Typhoon could be a skin for this Avenger class? It has a pretty similar profile, so maybe a possability?
Overall, doesn't look bad, I just really really really hope that the KDF and IRW get a similar counterpart ship, since the Federation has an overwealming choice of ships already now to the point that I'd classify some as 'Trash ships', similar to Trash loot that is just there to populate the loot databases to make the high end loot look good.
Well it looks this this new one will have a Cloak
Well giving it a Cloak does make the Galaxy X less special regardless of how much some people actually use the Cloaking Device. It should not have the ability to use Cloak IMO.
If this really is the "Battle Cruiser" the cloak mentions, and the "Fleet battlecruiser", Does this mean it's actually going to be a standalone ship, Instead of a 3 pack?
Unless i'm being really dense, I'm pretty sure both my Vesta's and Oddys have been fleet quality... (and i assume is the trend for something you need to shell out ?40 for!)
I disagree with this statement, I melt things almost as fast with my cruiser as I do with my single target escort without Aux2Batt if not faster.
I know some will say "Well you're doing your escort wrong", I don't care, I still demolish stuff with it, I just enjoy the cruiser more.
About the new cruiser, if the stats are epic I might look into grinding for it, if it's anything like the Oddy or Regent I'm not so sure.
Apparently their is a fleet version and with that being the case it will be a stand alone ship.
SShhhhhhh !!!
You're letting out an incredible secret.
:cool:
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Sure, can't let the KDF have a leg up anywhere, now can we? /eyeroll
Isn't there already an Avenger-class? I thought that was a variant of the Star Cruiser.
Gen
I'm sure your DPS is great, but as Kahless said, "a petaQ with high system mastery is still a petaQ." (Well, he should have said it...!)
It should have:
- tac positions, comm and lt. comm
- 4/5 tac consoles for reg/fleet variants
- a sci lt. com slot. seriously.
- no fighters (thankfully confirmed)
- be able to use cannons (although frankly beam array's are fine in the right hands).
The first 2 points alone would make it viable.
Now for my obligatory rank about people who whine about cruisers:
[RANT]
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Edit: Okay, missed this.
No, no, and no. Cruisers and battlecruisers shouldn't have shoehorned escort BOFF/console setups. It might be able to use dual cannons though, but if you want ship classes to have balance, you should take a look at the functions of their own elements instead of wanting them to have elements of overused TRIBBLE.
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I agree; my comments were musings for an effective combat vessel with significant stamina.
Since 100% of our missions involve exploring strange new worlds, and seeking out new life, why would we possibly want a serious combat oriented vessel?
It would likely be a 3-pack with the sub-classes of Avenger, Dauntless, and Gettysburg.
Now, if I were to guess, a sensor cloak would not be a traditional cloak, but could possibly make the ship impossible or very difficult to target by enemies for a short period of time while still staying visible.
Self-replicating ablative armour would hopefully not be an exact copy of the Intrepid Retrofit armour, which I find to be really only useful as an "oh $*** I'm going to die!" power, and it would feel like a power cop-out for something that comes in a 3-pack. Instead, I would rather imagine something closer to how Romulan Quantum Absorption works (a second layer of hull) without the boost to shields, but likely with a bit more HP or resistance.
Self-replicating torpedoes could either be a 3 minute timer massive barrage of torps, or what I think might be more creative, but less flashy, as a console power that drastically shortens torpedo cooldown times for a short period, allowing you to potentially use something like Tricobalt torpedoes as quickly as Quantums or Photons for a short time, and for Quantums and Photons, being like a temporary free High Yield. I'm thinking I'll be very wrong on this one, but it would be an interesting mechanic. There's also the possibility that this could end up being a torpedo weapon on its own, being possibly like a heavier, narrower version of the Ferengi missile launcher, or basically a faster loading Photon Torpedo launcher with damage normalized down slightly (but still reasonably high) to make up for the faster loading time.
A second warp core is probably the most likely thing to come with this ship class, now that warp cores are a thing in this game. That in itself is a pretty big deal for a Cruiser and its naturally high power settings, but far from game breaking.
If it's a 3-ship (and thus 3-console) set, then I expect that there'll be some set bonuses. If Cryptic really wanted to get crazy, the original Avenger supports saucer separation, so that could be one of the regular consoles, pushing something like the potentially very powerful sensor cloak to be a 3-piece bonus. The 2-piece bonus is more likely to be a passive boost of some kind, though to what is anybody's guess. Mine would probably be something warp power related, whether that be an overall boost, efficiency, or perhaps more likely, faster transfer rates.
As for Bridge Officer layout, I suspect this to be similar to an Assault Cruiser's layout, though possibly trading the ensign tac spot for the lieutenant eng spot. Not sure whether it would have a universal spot, but if the layout is much like the Assault Cruiser anyway, I would probably use it for a sci officer anyway for added shield/hull healing.
Other stats would likely land it somewhere akin to an Assault Cruiser and an Advanced Heavy (between a Regent and an Excelsior).
Of course, this is all speculation, but I could definitely see something like the above. If this is going to be a 3-ship set, this will mark the first time where a class of ship is going to have multiple 3-ship sets. I also do not expect to have near carbon copies for Klingons or Romulans, as it wouldn't make much sense. Where it was easy to translate the Temporal Science ships and the Veteran ships across all 3 factions, the Avenger would be more faction specific. Hopefully Cryptic will give the Klingons some ship love next, though.
And IMO, why can't a heavy-engineering vessel be combat-oriented?
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