seems it's easier to criticize and belittle the development team rather than have a suggestive discussion in order to attempt to make the experience better or try and understand the reason why things are the way they are.
but hey....rage on.
*yawn.
Hey, here is a person that is willing to accept the game in its current condition...flawed and full of problems...
Its not complaining just stating the obvious but if you are happy with bugs and cartoon drawings in game just watch looney toons instead. I did make a few suggestions but hey im just a player of a the game what do I know anyway. I said shut it down for a week or two and get it all sorted out. Then since the game was away for a week have a sale to make up for any lost revenue. There are tons of ideas to fix the problems. However, the suits rather keep squeezing the utters despite the obvious infections in them.
You're right, you don't know much....STO is not a car you put in a shop to fix stuff.
LOL im gonna get banned for inciting a digital riot.
Any way Ive put So much in to my character and done all the listed problem solves only to be told in short that nothing can be done about. Then on top f that when I rage because I haven't received any help I get warned.. Well gee thanks. Id rather you punched me in the face and kicked me in the stomach rather than act like you are trying to help with The BS stander reply . I WANT SERVICE NOT EXCUSES!! Just like everyone does. And yes if you collect money be prepared to give the service you claim provide. If you had to put a price tag on all the Dilithium and Zen I've accumulated and spent its well over a 500 USD. That said I think I deserve better than a warning about flaming/trolling or anything of that sort.
I indeed do have fun playing STO if that's what you mean :rolleyes::cool:
or am I doing it wrong ???
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No no no, you're not supposd to like playing, you're supposed to loathe it and wish they would shut it down for a few weeks to iron out all the bug, because keeping something offline is a good way to test how things will work under real-world loads.
No matter what you say, the artists do not work on bugs.
Shutting down the game for a week makes no sense. The server is taken down only to apply an update.
You are missing the point. Changing the look of Items is like putting wall paper over a huge hole in the wall. Its Nonsense. I asked them to transfer all the items I paid for to my other level 50 tac captain. Ships, Mk 12 purple consoles, ground gear and all that sort of stuff because I cannot log in to that character but of course my request lands on deaf ears. I wonder why that is?
No no no, you're not supposd to like playing, you're supposed to loathe it and wish they would shut it down for a few weeks to iron out all the bug, because keeping something offline is a good way to test how things will work under real-world loads.
...Or something. I don't really understand the logic behind shutting down the game while going on a bughunt. It's not like there isn't a not-live copy of the code available to the team to edit before pushing the patch live. Or that a week is enough time to robustly fix and test every bug or glitch in a 10 GB+ game.
...Or something. I don't really understand the logic behind shutting down the game while going on a bughunt. It's not like there isn't a not-live copy of the code available to the team to edit before pushing the patch live. Or that a week is enough time to robustly fix and test every bug or glitch in a 10 GB+ game.
OK how many forum posts and bug reports are posted daily. Even if they don't have to shut it down they have a basis to start the fixes. The content dulled down by all the bugs in game already. It makes no sense to add content to a broken game. Fix it before Polishing it or it will be polished junk
OK how many forum posts and bug reports are posted daily. Even if they don't have to shut it down they have a basis to start the fixes. The content dulled down by all the bugs in game already. It makes no sense to add content to a broken game. Fix it before Polishing it or it will be polished junk
you make it sound like this is a new concept that has never been envisioned before.
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Having given it a couple of days, now... the new icons are starting to grow on me.
And, actually, the consistent "families" of items with consistent shapes and appropriate colour schemes... is a genuine improvement. Once you've got some familiarity with the groupings, you can say to yourself, for instance, "Hmm, that thingy there has the same sort of outline as a phaser relay, but it's got a purple glow instead of an orange one... so, it must be a booster for polaron!" Which was not something you could do so easily, back when they were both Some Random Gizmo.
So, on balance, I give this change a thumbs up overall.
OK how many forum posts and bug reports are posted daily. Even if they don't have to shut it down they have a basis to start the fixes. The content dulled down by all the bugs in game already. It makes no sense to add content to a broken game. Fix it before Polishing it or it will be polished junk
Indeed, and bugs have in fact got patched here and there.... of course, sometimes patching things to fix one bughas caused another bug to pop up that was previously fixed (or at least the resemblance of the first bug, as merely because something has the same or similar symptoms does not mean it has the same cause).
Or that executing it will be easy. Bugs, especially ones that seem to spontaneously occur, are pesky things to hunt down and fix.
Anyone who thinks it's easy should be given a paper copy of the entire sourcecode and then asked once an hour if they have found the bug yet and be flogged for 10 minutes each time they say no.... hte problem would then sort itself out one way or the other.
I really hope you're being sarcastic. The new icons were the biggest waste of time/resources that I can remember in recent months. Not to mention the fact that you have to relearn every icon, and all the tac icons look alike except for a barely visible center section. I don't mind the other console icons since I rarely ever change them, but my tac consoles get swapped out per situation and what used to take seconds is now a major bi***.
They could have fixed the costume tailor, the ship tailor, the boff disappearance bug, the [insert bug here]...instead they did this TRIBBLE.
you got numbers for us on what time and resources it took ?
got numbers of everything else in recent months to compare that data to as well ?
They may be pretty, but regardless of whatever time and resources the art department put into them, I consider it a waste of my time to have to check them via tool-tip when I already knew all the old ones. Change for the sake of change is a sure sign of incompetent management.
They may be pretty, but regardless of whatever time and resources the art department put into them, I consider it a waste of my time to have to check them via tool-tip when I already knew all the old ones. Change for the sake of change is a sure sign of incompetent management.
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Hey, here is a person that is willing to accept the game in its current condition...flawed and full of problems...
Cryptic apologists...
I indeed do have fun playing STO if that's what you mean :rolleyes::cool:
or am I doing it wrong ???
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---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
You're right, you don't know much....STO is not a car you put in a shop to fix stuff.
Any way Ive put So much in to my character and done all the listed problem solves only to be told in short that nothing can be done about. Then on top f that when I rage because I haven't received any help I get warned.. Well gee thanks. Id rather you punched me in the face and kicked me in the stomach rather than act like you are trying to help with The BS stander reply . I WANT SERVICE NOT EXCUSES!! Just like everyone does. And yes if you collect money be prepared to give the service you claim provide. If you had to put a price tag on all the Dilithium and Zen I've accumulated and spent its well over a 500 USD. That said I think I deserve better than a warning about flaming/trolling or anything of that sort.
No matter what you say, the artists do not work on bugs.
Shutting down the game for a week makes no sense. The server is taken down only to apply an update.
No no no, you're not supposd to like playing, you're supposed to loathe it and wish they would shut it down for a few weeks to iron out all the bug, because keeping something offline is a good way to test how things will work under real-world loads.
*shrugs*:rolleyes:
You are missing the point. Changing the look of Items is like putting wall paper over a huge hole in the wall. Its Nonsense. I asked them to transfer all the items I paid for to my other level 50 tac captain. Ships, Mk 12 purple consoles, ground gear and all that sort of stuff because I cannot log in to that character but of course my request lands on deaf ears. I wonder why that is?
and apparently...so are you. :cool:
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OK how many forum posts and bug reports are posted daily. Even if they don't have to shut it down they have a basis to start the fixes. The content dulled down by all the bugs in game already. It makes no sense to add content to a broken game. Fix it before Polishing it or it will be polished junk
you make it sound like this is a new concept that has never been envisioned before.
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---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
And, actually, the consistent "families" of items with consistent shapes and appropriate colour schemes... is a genuine improvement. Once you've got some familiarity with the groupings, you can say to yourself, for instance, "Hmm, that thingy there has the same sort of outline as a phaser relay, but it's got a purple glow instead of an orange one... so, it must be a booster for polaron!" Which was not something you could do so easily, back when they were both Some Random Gizmo.
So, on balance, I give this change a thumbs up overall.
Indeed, and bugs have in fact got patched here and there.... of course, sometimes patching things to fix one bughas caused another bug to pop up that was previously fixed (or at least the resemblance of the first bug, as merely because something has the same or similar symptoms does not mean it has the same cause).
Or that executing it will be easy. Bugs, especially ones that seem to spontaneously occur, are pesky things to hunt down and fix.
Anyone who thinks it's easy should be given a paper copy of the entire sourcecode and then asked once an hour if they have found the bug yet and be flogged for 10 minutes each time they say no.... hte problem would then sort itself out one way or the other.
and although i hate the new icons art with every fiber of being u cant expect art department to fix something that they prob know nothing about.
I say good job on fixing this. And keep updating and fixing the game.
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They could have fixed the costume tailor, the ship tailor, the boff disappearance bug, the [insert bug here]...instead they did this TRIBBLE.
you got numbers for us on what time and resources it took ?
got numbers of everything else in recent months to compare that data to as well ?
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No I don't and I don't need them. There are much bigger things to fix then icons, so what it actually took makes no difference.
That being said, do YOU have those numbers? If not then by all means close ye gaping pie hole.
Please tell me how much resources Icon costs....and how the guy who makes them has anything to do with fixing stuff.
:P
I'll just leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXR3FMx9bVE
Fun fact, the guys doing work on art assets, like the Console Icons, don't work on Bugs/gameplay programming.
THey wasted no time by doing their assigned task.