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  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This isn't really a malfunction so much as an oddity.

    Does it strike anyone as odd that when you increase the hip depth, the veritable bakonkadonk slider, the lower belly gets bigger. It's most noticeable from the profile. Is that just a limitation? It just seems weird that's all. I know it might not get fixed til the next season if it's even fixable, but I just wanted to know if that struck anyone else as off and see if it's working as intended.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    captaind3 wrote: »
    This isn't really a malfunction so much as an oddity.

    Does it strike anyone as odd that when you increase the hip depth, the veritable bakonkadonk slider, the lower belly gets bigger. It's most noticeable from the profile. Is that just a limitation? It just seems weird that's all. I know it might not get fixed til the next season if it's even fixable, but I just wanted to know if that struck anyone else as off and see if it's working as intended.

    That's because all of the sliders, including both hip and chest depth, are stretching both the front and back of the body. A bit disappointing but they'd probably have to completely redesign the character models to do it differently and that's asking too much.

    You can compensate for it a bit if you play around with the other related sliders (hip size, stomach size).
  • admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Here a few issues after the patch:

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    The Risian Explore Outfit Pants clips into the body on the front

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    The Risian Explorer Outfit Pants clip into the body on the back

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    High Boots clip through the pants

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    The formal wear is missing the lower section completly. Pre-Delta Rising costumes remain intact, but that happens when you click modify.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    captaind3 wrote: »
    This isn't really a malfunction so much as an oddity.

    Does it strike anyone as odd that when you increase the hip depth, the veritable bakonkadonk slider, the lower belly gets bigger. It's most noticeable from the profile. Is that just a limitation? It just seems weird that's all. I know it might not get fixed til the next season if it's even fixable, but I just wanted to know if that struck anyone else as off and see if it's working as intended.

    Oddity, malfunction, I still don't want it. I want it to look like the second picture. For the moment I've put it back on since the blue color looks much better. No matter what I do, even if I change uniforms, the clear chestpiece and thigh attach are still there and I don't want them there.

    Like I said above even creating a new uniform in a new slot had it looking like the third picture. I turned that one into another off duty uniform for now
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  • caasicamcaasicam Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    echatty wrote: »
    Oddity, malfunction, I still don't want it. I want it to look like the second picture. For the moment I've put it back on since the blue color looks much better. No matter what I do, even if I change uniforms, the clear chestpiece and thigh attach are still there and I don't want them there.

    Like I said above even creating a new uniform in a new slot had it looking like the third picture. I turned that one into another off duty uniform for now

    Based on the white color of the pieces, it looks like you're using one of the old 4-power Kits instead of the new kit module system. Just right click on your kit and hit "hide visuals".
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    caasicam wrote: »
    Based on the white color of the pieces, it looks like you're using one of the old 4-power Kits instead of the new kit module system. Just right click on your kit and hit "hide visuals".
    Now this is helpful. I'll try that when the game comes back. Thank you.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Thank you caasicam! It worked!
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    caasicam wrote: »
    Based on the white color of the pieces, it looks like you're using one of the old 4-power Kits instead of the new kit module system. Just right click on your kit and hit "hide visuals".
    NOTE: you can use this to have two sets of kit visuals display simultaneously. Including, but not limited to, displaying kit piece combinations that you otherwise can't use simultaneously.
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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Comprehensible, full clipping combadge & belts list issues for Female Oddysey uniforms.

    After DR launch, and some model improvements (kudos btw), we have some clipping issues with combadges & Belts, specifically with Female Odyssey uniforms.

    My settings, which affect the glitches

    Pictures are worth 1000 words. Used purposefully distinctive colors, for contrast and glitch display in the images. Used two images, with Dress & Long jacket uniform, in "Twitchy" stance, as an example.

    Combadge used: TNG Movie
    Belt used: Jupiter

    http://i.imgur.com/l5X3jPU.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/lobaxgx.jpg

    Stances affected by combadge clipping:
    • Twitchy
    • Swagger
    • Relaxed
    • Thoughtful
    • Brawler
    • Creature
    • Feminine
    • Cute
    • Gruff.

    The combadge glitch also occurs with Odyssey Excursion and Odyssey regular.

    Combadges clipping:
    • TNG Movie
    • Lifetime Combadge
    • Science, Engineering, Command Combadges,
    • Motion picture combadge
    • Alternate future Variant
    • TOS Command
    • TOS Medical
    • TOS Operations
    • TOS Science
    • Bajoran
    • Odyssey 1
    • Odyssey 2
    • The Orginal Series Dress Uniform 1
    • The Orginal Series Dress Uniform 2
    • The Orginal Series Dress Uniform 3
    • The Orginal Series Dress Uniform 4

    Belt clipping:
    • Wintercoat black
    • Wintercoat brown
    • Jupiter
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  • rixatoorixatoo Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    I've observed the same problem with a human character. I noticed that the drop down list for "skin/stockings" is missing from the lower body options.


    I was starting to wonder if I was the only one as this is the only place I see anyone mentioning this online. Glad to hear it's not just me.
  • gurluasgurluas Member Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I made a thread about bugged miner pants, but that isn't where it ends.
    The female Intel uniform's combadges are HEAVILY clipping, the males are fine.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gurluas wrote: »
    I made a thread about bugged miner pants, but that isn't where it ends.
    The female Intel uniform's combadges are HEAVILY clipping, the males are fine.
    and by "clipping" he means disappearing into the coat. some of them are completely invisible.
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  • millybunmillybun Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    and by "clipping" he means disappearing into the coat. some of them are completely invisible.

    And since some of the combadges, specifically the TNG series/film combadges, still clip deeply into female characters' chests if related bust sliders are over the mid-way point still...wouldn't even bother wearing them with the Intel tops.

    Also, the Odyssey combadges are missing as options for the new Intel uniform. Was hoping to use them with it...


    Made a new post regarding TNG series/film combadge clipping and another older issue with a tailor slider that hasn't been altered/fixed with Delta Rising:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=19963121&postcount=64
  • micadog5micadog5 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    While this might not be a tailor issue per se, as it isn't the uniform itself that is bugged, this still seems to be the area to put it.

    I opened a Voth Light Soldier Uniform today (19th October, 2014). The uniform is not available in the tailor, both on bridge officers and on the captain.

    Player- Male KDF Alien

    Bridge officers tested- Male Gorn, Male and Female Alien, male Lethean

    Screenshots:

    System message:
    http://i.imgur.com/vtbiK2E.jpg

    Tailor Menus:
    http://i.imgur.com/FZZGEXp.png
    http://i.imgur.com/rZfZjlO.png
    http://i.imgur.com/0qlw0qY.png
    http://i.imgur.com/D1Imh0z.png

    Bug has been submitted, Ticket ID# 2822409

    Characters who already owned the uniform are unaffected, seems to only be an issue with new openings.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Miner outfit, which was very recently added to the off-duty options, has now been removed from the off-duty options.

    Or more specifically, the Miner jackets were removed from the "Jacket Loose" category for both Uniform and Off Duty, leaving them only in "Jacket Tight", which doesn't exist in Off Duty. (Checked Fed alien female and KDF Orion female)
  • bellydancer42bellydancer42 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    micadog5 wrote: »
    While this might not be a tailor issue per se, as it isn't the uniform itself that is bugged, this still seems to be the area to put it.

    I opened a Voth Light Soldier Uniform today (19th October, 2014). The uniform is not available in the tailor, both on bridge officers and on the captain.

    Player- Male KDF Alien

    Bridge officers tested- Male Gorn, Male and Female Alien, male Lethean

    Screenshots:

    System message:
    http://i.imgur.com/vtbiK2E.jpg

    Tailor Menus:
    http://i.imgur.com/FZZGEXp.png
    http://i.imgur.com/rZfZjlO.png
    http://i.imgur.com/0qlw0qY.png
    http://i.imgur.com/D1Imh0z.png

    Bug has been submitted, Ticket ID# 2822409

    Characters who already owned the uniform are unaffected, seems to only be an issue with new openings.

    I have the same issue with my bikini. Unpacked it on Risa, went to the tailor, and no option for swimwear.

    Female human, Fed.

    EDIT: After restarting the game the swimwear was there. So maybe that helps with the Voth outfit, too.
  • garakfan84garakfan84 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Hi guys. I've posted a thread about this issue before but decided to post here too with pictures included.

    I bought the Intel Uniform and tried it on my Lethean but the fingerless gloves don't show the bony claws, the hand gets replaced by a normal looking hand.

    Bony claws:
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    With fingerless intel gloves:
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    Has anyone been having this problem? I tried them on my Ferasan BOFF and the claws show up but not on my Nausicaans.
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  • themartianthemartian Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I can't find anything on this, but I have a question about the Be'ves honor guard option. Is it still supposed to be unlocked on getting all the STF optionals? Some of my characters have it while some do not and none of them have the ground optional achievements. The ones that have it are the ones that unlocked honor guard armour more recently.
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    K'ymara, Orion Engineer. Caedera of Borg, Liberated Borg Tactical, Elyza Vix, Joined Trill Scientist. Christina Bellona, Augmented Human Tactical.
    T'Lana, Vulcan Scientist. Arbol, Martian Tactical. Ayzer Bryn, Joined Trill Engineer. Hawke, Betazoid Scientist. Karna Valkras, Klingon Engineer. Beth Parker, Human Tactical
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Intel jackets are present in the Off-Duty options, but the boots, pants, gloves, and belt were not added to Off-Duty.
  • callevistacallevista Member Posts: 237 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014

    The formal wear is missing the lower section completly. Pre-Delta Rising costumes remain intact, but that happens when you click modify.

    A fix for this has been sent and will likely go out in the next update.
    Thanks for posting.
  • myrnwynmyrnwyn Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I got the special Hierarchy intel boff on a federation character yesterday and I notice that you can edit him even though special boffs like the Reman, Breen, Voth, etc normally don't allow this. Given that his costume reverts to something different from what he's supposed to wear when you open it (although thankfully cancelling the modification prevents any changes) I assume this isn't working as intended.
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Speaking of the Hierarchy Boff.

    I'll note that upon entering tailor and modifying his costume on KDF side, his original 'Hierarchy suit' disappears and is no longer available to pick. Also, only federation costuming options are present. See here: screenshot_2014_10_22_03_35_42.jpg

    It may have something to do with the fact the Boff in some respects behaves as a Federation Boff, despite being claimed by a KDF, see this thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1253361&page=2
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  • wilvwilv Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Talaxian Clothing is missing a top that matches 1 of the skirts for females.

    The skirt is called 'Talaxian Panel Skirt'. As you can see from the image in the c-store it's suppose to have a matching top but the top is missing. I checked all upper categories and can't find it. None of the Talaxian tops match it in any way.

    Image in the c-store; I've boxed in the outfit in question: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/MonkeyGuts69/talaxianc-storeoutfit_zps7a5202cb.jpg~original
  • callevistacallevista Member Posts: 237 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    toiva wrote: »
    Speaking of the Hierarchy Boff.

    I'll note that upon entering tailor and modifying his costume on KDF side, his original 'Hierarchy suit' disappears and is no longer available to pick. Also, only federation costuming options are present. See here: screenshot_2014_10_22_03_35_42.jpg

    It may have something to do with the fact the Boff in some respects behaves as a Federation Boff, despite being claimed by a KDF, see this thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1253361&page=2

    We are working on a resolution to this - but I don't have anything to update yet.
  • myrnwynmyrnwyn Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    toiva wrote: »
    Speaking of the Hierarchy Boff.

    I'll note that upon entering tailor and modifying his costume on KDF side, his original 'Hierarchy suit' disappears and is no longer available to pick. Also, only federation costuming options are present.

    Yeah this is basically identical to the behavior on the fed side.
  • callevistacallevista Member Posts: 237 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    wilv wrote: »
    The Talaxian Clothing is missing a top that matches 1 of the skirts for females.

    The skirt is called 'Talaxian Panel Skirt'. As you can see from the image in the c-store it's suppose to have a matching top but the top is missing. I checked all upper categories and can't find it. None of the Talaxian tops match it in any way.

    Image in the c-store; I've boxed in the outfit in question: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/MonkeyGuts69/talaxianc-storeoutfit_zps7a5202cb.jpg~original

    Thanks for the post.

    A fix for this was made and so that the shirt should appear correctly under the name, "Talaxian Panel Shirt" for females.
    It's going through verification now - and should update to the live servers soon.
  • callevistacallevista Member Posts: 237 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    I have the same issue with my bikini. Unpacked it on Risa, went to the tailor, and no option for swimwear.

    Female human, Fed.

    EDIT: After restarting the game the swimwear was there. So maybe that helps with the Voth outfit, too.

    We are looking into this, I'll update when we get closer to a resolution
  • callevistacallevista Member Posts: 237 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    micadog5 wrote: »
    While this might not be a tailor issue per se, as it isn't the uniform itself that is bugged, this still seems to be the area to put it.

    I opened a Voth Light Soldier Uniform today (19th October, 2014). The uniform is not available in the tailor, both on bridge officers and on the captain.

    Player- Male KDF Alien

    Bridge officers tested- Male Gorn, Male and Female Alien, male Lethean

    Screenshots:

    System message:
    http://i.imgur.com/vtbiK2E.jpg

    Tailor Menus:
    http://i.imgur.com/FZZGEXp.png
    http://i.imgur.com/rZfZjlO.png
    http://i.imgur.com/0qlw0qY.png
    http://i.imgur.com/D1Imh0z.png

    Bug has been submitted, Ticket ID# 2822409

    Characters who already owned the uniform are unaffected, seems to only be an issue with new openings.

    Thanks for the post - we are looking into this.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    These Hirogen and Jem Hadar costume options are still unavailable.

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    1) Rebreather
    2) Open Helmet
    3) Large collar
    4) Shoulder pad
    5) Shoulder pad
    6) Upper arm armour
    7) Complete armour

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    1) Some shoulder pieces
    2) Zipper
    3) Grenade Pouch
    4) Leg Pouch
    5) Upper arm armour
    6) Wrist Computer (a nice piece for everyone)
    7) Breen Boots
    8) Dominion Boots
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  • garakfan84garakfan84 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Intel jackets are present in the Off-Duty options, but the boots, pants, gloves, and belt were not added to Off-Duty.

    Also this.
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