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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    scurry5 wrote: »
    I'm not sure subnuke might be quite as devastating either. This clear just might include the subnuke debuff.

    The way it reads...it's any debuff.

    So consider those DCE/AtB EPtX(EPtX/EPtY) chains - how often they're being triggered and:

    add the TT cleanse
    add the ET cleanse
    add the ST cleanse
    add the HE cleanse

    2s duration, 0.5s cycling

    0s cleanse
    0.5s cleanse
    1s cleanse
    1.5s cleanse
    2s cleanse

    Something like that, eh? 40% chance every...15s.

    edit: Heck, with it being controls as well - could probably toss in the PH/APO "cleanse" into that as well..

    ...what doesn't this marvelous DOFF cleanse? Does it do windows?
  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The way it reads...it's any debuff.

    So consider those DCE/AtB EPtX(EPtX/EPtY) chains - how often they're being triggered and:

    add the TT cleanse
    add the ET cleanse
    add the ST cleanse
    add the HE cleanse

    2s duration, 0.5s cycling

    0s cleanse
    0.5s cleanse
    1s cleanse
    1.5s cleanse
    2s cleanse

    Something like that, eh? 40% chance every...15s.

    edit: Heck, with it being controls as well - could probably toss in the PH/APO "cleanse" into that as well..

    ...what doesn't this marvelous DOFF cleanse? Does it do windows?
    It's "De Viper." IDK why but I flashed back to a GI Joe episode from when I was a kid where they thought they had this intelligence asset that turned out to be a window cleaner with an eastern European accent. He shows up at the end after they've been miraculously busting Cobra based on what he says to "Vipe de Vindows."
    _______________
    CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
    Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    redricky wrote: »
    It's "De Viper." IDK why but I flashed back to a GI Joe episode from when I was a kid where they thought they had this intelligence asset that turned out to be a window cleaner with an eastern European accent. He shows up at the end after they've been miraculously busting Cobra based on what he says to "Vipe de Vindows."

    It is a trip...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyXrwbg1G7c
  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The way it reads...it's any debuff.

    So consider those DCE/AtB EPtX(EPtX/EPtY) chains - how often they're being triggered and:

    add the TT cleanse
    add the ET cleanse
    add the ST cleanse
    add the HE cleanse

    2s duration, 0.5s cycling

    0s cleanse
    0.5s cleanse
    1s cleanse
    1.5s cleanse
    2s cleanse

    Something like that, eh? 40% chance every...15s.

    edit: Heck, with it being controls as well - could probably toss in the PH/APO "cleanse" into that as well..

    ...what doesn't this marvelous DOFF cleanse? Does it do windows?

    Looks like Cryptic did it again, then. Honestly, every single time they release doffs with unique powers, one of them will be out of balance.

    Not to mention some of us were arguing that this would be nice to mount on EPS Power Transfer...but no, they had to put it on the single most common Boff power in the game!

    Science will be hamstrung badly once this thing begins to proliferate.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yeah, virtually all those DOFFs are pretty harmless PvE DOFFs, or seem fairly balanced as they stand, no real issue so far.

    The big one is that Warp Core Engineer (thank goodness you can only have one), but that fact that it is such a huge cleanse is worrying.

    But I won't say that it puts SNB at risk. Because if someone is doing an EPTX rotation, they will almost always have at least one on a shared cooldown of some sort. Plus even if it procs, it only lasts 2 seconds. While powerful, someone has to be willing to give up a slot, which means they won't be using something else possibly.

    On the other end, can the proc itself be SNBd off?
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited May 2013

    Holy flashback! I really wish we could rename doffs.
    _______________
    CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
    Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    redricky wrote: »
    Holy flashback! I really wish we could rename doffs.

    LOL Yeah, indeed. I'd love it too if it would say "De Viper viped da vindows vith Emergency Power to X" :D
    You think that your beta test was bad?
    Think about this:
    American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If folks want to share any concerns they have over the WCE DOFF... Bort's taking feedback on it in that thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=690821

    I'm still trying to get this out of my head:

    Nero screaming, "CLEANSE EVERYTHING!"
  • paradise1killerparadise1killer Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    No QQ about drain or any Sci power.

    thx cryptic #PVPSarcasm
    Nova Core
    ParadiseKiller

    House of Beautiful Orions
    Zeadonouse
    ToLate
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »

    Heh, that looks like my Reman. :)
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited May 2013
    So, I picked up the Warp Core DOFF, and the description says it's an instant scrub of negative effects.

    It appears it does not last 2 seconds like previously stated.

    I don't think this is so bad now.
  • dank65dank65 Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just more and more TRIBBLE in this game and not to mention I hate the HUD so Ill say thats pretty much it for me time to "Uninstall".......
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Banshee
    Bloodthristy
    Guild - <Lords of The Dead>
    LvL 60 CW-Dragon Server
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I do not know what I will do without the Dank in my life........
    Dont go Dank, Dont go!
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • dank65dank65 Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I do not know what I will do without the Dank in my life........
    Dont go Dank, Dont go!

    LOL Dont worry roach ill always be here for you.................Puff Puff Pass:D
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Banshee
    Bloodthristy
    Guild - <Lords of The Dead>
    LvL 60 CW-Dragon Server
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