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papablood
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1 disruptor turret took my defense from 24.1 to 2.9 with its proc... its proc says -12.5..... thats with a test I just ran... others in my fleet have had as much as a -40with the proc... So there is something deffinently wrong with the proc on disruptors... I had 1 person shoot me with 1 turret till it proc'd so nobody can claim that it was a stack which I'm not even sure a disruptor proc can stack ... but some ppl in OPVP yesterday said that it did and thats why the high number of -40
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Target locked Captain....Alpha loaded....5,4,3,2,1.... Target dead captain, locking on next target
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Met a guy today who had some ridiculous resist strip with his.
Using XI Acc x2 I think (Might have been acc3 though) and he was even with a tac team, shield buff with elite fleet shields was tearing through them like Id installed Captain level shields, just totally ignored everything.
He was using an Andorian ship so theres the possibility of a 5th console with the 5th weapon slot, but he had too many shield buffs to be the tac version. Even off the Alpha my shields were just wilting.
Could it be a combination effect of the normal proc being buffed somehow by a passive or somesuch?
I guess all weapon proc need a keeping the eye on now to see what else may be busted.
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It was as if all my resistances had been switched off along with tac team and shield buffs.
There was no sci nearby either, we were very much away from the pack.
Yes, its not just me thats been on the receiving end and ever unexplained 100% shield pass through malarky.
Do you sometimes find as well, not all the time but certain opponents seem to make your ship go on a go slow?
By that I mean everything is slow to respond, tac team doesnt, shield buffs dont seem to really do anything at all?
And thats when you noticed the discrepancy of the procs value?
I ask because the use of Disruptors with DEM is an old standby and I hate to see it ruoned by over reaction or poor "fixing" due to such.
Hopefully if checked it will only require a simple fix
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Shield resists are added so a -10 is a -10.
Hull resists are not... if you add an armour console that says its +30 for instance... you won't ever get +30 even if you where at zero before. At some point that +30 will be like +5 at most as the resist number goes up.
Same thing happens with resistance debuffs like beta delta disruptor procs ect... they are dropping -12... but seeing as that last +30 console was only giving +5... dropping it down to a 17.5 instead of 30... is only going to net you 2-5 points of resist at most off there score.
Its the nature of resistance in this game... honestly resistance debuffs like disruptors work best when comboed with other debuffs.
What he said.
You said you went from 24.1 to 2.9, I'm assuming that's 24.1% to 2.9%. The disruptor proc is equivalent to taking neutronium away. 1 resistance =/= 1%, resistance is a diminishing returns formula, big gains initially and then it asymptotes.
P.S. Equip more Neutronium if you're that scared of the disruptor proc.
Beta for instance is still a fantastic alpha strike skill... the combo of say a -29.8 from a beta 1 + a disruptor proc -12.5... can be a quick -42.3 or so during that short 2-3s burst. (as long as you land a proc early anyway). That is like removing a neut and a half from someones resistance and it can make a big difference... of course the odd person is going to be packing 2-3 neut armors, in which case all the debuff in the world isn't going to eat into there score much.
Unfortunately, that is what I've spent my EC on, so I guess I'll just stay out of queues for a while until they are fixed...
I sure hope they fix this soon...
I think the op was saying they are broken as in doing next to nothing... not the opposite.
I think if you did double the dmg... its just that you where in an escort and no one else was... I don't think you weapons are broke.
He was in his Klink Vet ship so was 1 other guy and 2 of us myself included was in Bug ships that was our side ... Other side was was an Andorion ... 2 escorts and a Cruiser.... he ended up with 1,100,000 in damage me and other bug had about 450k each and the other vet ship was 209k ...other side I dont remember who had what but the highest person was 300+k
Could your opponent have been running the Polarized Disruptors, DEM, APB and REP passive Graviton amplifier? Not sure of all the back-end game mechanics but could they theoretically all proc at once? So you would get 100% shield bypass from REP passive (kinetic straight to hull), DEM partial shield bypass, -12.5 dmg resist from the disruptors, -25 power levels from the polaron proc, and -29 dmg resist from APB?
that is kinda disturbing
A point to fix:
Omega Graviton Amplifier doesn't have your attacks do 100% shield penetration. It has a proc that does extra, guaranteed kinetic damage through shields. Your attacks are treated normally.
I can attest to the verity of this statement.
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This.
Just some additional information.
- The proc does about 750 kinetic damage to your hull directly, circumventing ANY form of hull resistance. Never the less a very weak proc.
- In game combatlog shows the value being applied to your enemy.
- Out of game logparser doesnt seem to show it however, the entries it shows, but the damage shows 0. (But that might be a problem with the plugin, i ahvent actually checked the raw file.
2.5% on Energy weaps, 5% on torps. Pretty useless never the less. Even if it does proc, the effect is pretty much negated by your innate passive hull repair. lol.
So much for repu system balance. Even in PVE its rather useless lol
If you have a log that contains this proc, maybe you could send me a copy? (None of my toons have chosen this passive.)
Im curiuos if they are as well. Flying a Torkaht with twin DHCs and four turrets w/Tac and DEM, Ive seen no increase in damage or hull sucking hits through shields.
Then again I have hardly any rep on my toon or elite Disruptors. Though I am using the hybrid pol/dis weapons.
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Also, he died to this proc about 7 hours ago. He was off chasing somebody down in his steamy and I tried to get to him to pretend I was helping, but he popped them too fast. Then he suddenly gets vaped and I see a "oh wtf" from the warp core explosion. Good times. :P
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
What is a good choice then? I hear many say the shield choice is a poor one as well.
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But I could have sworn that a change got made so that Disruptor procs increased their debuff based on a skill.. (do NOT remember which one) same as Polarons and Tetryons?
Edit: Just logged in and checked before the game was going to go down. I don't see any skill change buffs, but I did notice when I poped my Tac buffs, it did buff the Debuff. On my Mk XI Purple DHC I saw it go from 11.2 to a 20 from APA + Tac Fleet.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
*shocking* but it seems to have always worked that way. NO worries geko ain't gonna nerf it either
a history of sto pvp: 2010 - 2011
a history of sto pvp: 2012 - 2013
Which is my plan. Was just looking for some input to add the the thought process.
Thanks.
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