Will we know the details of the items before the discount offer expires?
What qualifies as 'limited time'?
Are we talking LTS limited where it won't last forever but potentially can come back?
Or...
Are we talking limited TOS/DS9 offer where it lasts forever and there is no 'limited time' but consumers feel they need to buy now or else they lose out?
With my mom's Death leaving me Scrapped for cash.. I still saw this and knew it was worth the $129.99 price sticker.. All those Retofit ships are going to be at LEAST $80, not including the other ships. Add in the 30 Keys and that's another $30 right there, Almost covering the $129.99 cost. The Boff is a nice to have. Makes me wonder if that means I could summon 2 Liberated Borg Boffs since I have the other Liberated Borg Boff unlocked already from before they changed it.
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Yeah the answer is no, just had a lovely twitter conversation with BranFlakes about why it should, at some level, include some if not most of these rewards. got the usual "I'll pass your feedback along" reply as a tactful way of him saying 'end of discussion'.
Lifers get nothing for free, not even the liberated Reman.
Lifers didn't get a LIberated Borg Boff either. And that Reman's a Boff, not a playable species.
We don't know if Lifers will get a Liberated Rom or Reman as part of the LTS. Dstahl's last comment was that he thought LTSers did.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Lifers didn't get a LIberated Borg Boff either. And that Reman's a Boff, not a playable species.
We don't know if Lifers will get a Liberated Rom or Reman as part of the LTS. Dstahl's last comment was that he thought LTSers did.
There are those who do have legacy liberated boffs (I think it came from a specific pre-order, but I don't really remember). No mention of whether that will extend to the Reman though.
A great offer and a clever way to get some good income for the new expansion. I hope that this game continues to take steps in the right direction with improvements after what they make and the release of LoR.
The only thing I will say in regards to LTS / Gold is that I would assume we're at least getting that Liberated Borg for the Romulan side for free?
There are those who do have legacy liberated boffs (I think it came from a specific pre-order, but I don't really remember). No mention of whether that will extend to the Reman though.
Yes, we got the Liberated Borg Human/Klingon Boff for buying a specific box set. That had nothing to do with having an LTS, though.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
125 euro is VERY steep for that pack and are they taking into account players who have silver and gold memberships dont want to have to keep paying through the nose???
Based on the items included in the pack and their eventual C-store costs, the price isn't steep, it's a deal.
That Sabotage Probe Console on the Dhelan Warbird retrofit looks to be interesting, but only if it drains a good portion of weapons power before it shuts your weapons down. Beams will see an immediate effect of power drain, but cannon dps doesn't depreciate as fast as beam dps does under power drains. If they base the console on Plasmonic Leech than your skillset and flow capacitors can enhance its drain.
Lifers didn't get a LIberated Borg Boff either. And that Reman's a Boff, not a playable species.
We don't know if Lifers will get a Liberated Rom or Reman as part of the LTS. Dstahl's last comment was that he thought LTSers did.
I missed the part that it's a Boff, still the rest holds true. This looks like all C-Store items sold for a small discount if bought bundled. Lifers and gold accounts don't get any c-store stuff for free or cheaper. (ignoring the stipend mind you)
But its not in THIS forum and this forum is the only one that matters! The tears of rage aren't as delicious in the other forums.
I'm kind of meh on the preorder packs.
You get Remen (NOT BORG) for free for doing the Romulan rep in game.
It wasn't targeted solely at the playable Reman, but also at the other stuff we get.
There are 3 Tier 5 ships in the package, we don't know the stats of yet and we also don't know which free ships we're going to get at RA and which ones will be available as Fleet ships.
For example:
If we get a free 9-console D'deridex at 40 in addition to a 10-console version from the Fleet yards and the Retrofit in this package is just a 9-console+ version like the Regent it wouldn't be worth it for me.
If we don't get a D'deridex at 40 and the one from the package is a 10-console ship or if there isn't going to be a Fleet version right away it would be worth it for me.
Just no way for making a $125 decision without knowing more details.
I also think that asking 125 euro for a one off package/item is wayyyyyy to much for any online game. Not only can 85% of the ppl playing probebly not afford it. But really to pay so much for something that u cant even hold in ur hands, and pay it in one go, for me is just insane. Yes i payed monthly fees before on games, and also if i wanted bought things, like outfits for mmorpg or fps games ( guns), max u could spend was round 25 euro, and then u got a really nice item. I think that already is a lot of money, but to threat urself, or kids etc its nice to do sometimes.
This is a game that should be enjoyed by LOT of ppl ...not just the once with cash...Yes ppl with no cash can enjoy this game, but never even think of purchase anything wickedly cool such as that package...i think thats sort of sad....materialistic....rip off...basicly.
All this stuff is going to be available in the C Store it looks like and they just mashed it together in a package with a small discount. This is actually not bad for anyone that would purchase everything to begin with.
A great offer and a clever way to get some good income for the new expansion. I hope that this game continues to take steps in the right direction with improvements after what they make and the release of LoR.
The only thing I will say in regards to LTS / Gold is that I would assume we're at least getting that Liberated Borg for the Romulan side for free?
Since the Lib Borg is a Bridge Officer and not a Playable Species, I would say, No. It is no different then the Female Engineering Officer (I think it is engineering) Currently Available in the C-Store.
Why Golds/Lifers think they should get this stuff for free I can't understand. This is just your standard C-store offers bundled together. You don't get any of that for free do you.
The Playable Reman I understand, they are going to be "Free" at the end of the Rom Rep system, but Cryptic Did say they would also be in the C-store for those who don't want the grind, So here it is.
Whether it is worth the price tag or not is up to the individual. And what they would or would not have gotten or paid for to begin with.
I also think that asking 125 euro for a one off package/item is wayyyyyy to much for any online game. Not only can 85% of the ppl playing probebly not afford it. But really to pay so much for something that u cant even hold in ur hands, and pay it in one go, for me is just insane. Yes i payed monthly fees before on games, and also if i wanted bought things, like outfits for mmorpg or fps games ( guns), max u could spend was round 25 euro, and then u got a really nice item. I think that already is a lot of money, but to threat urself, or kids etc its nice to do sometimes.
This is a game that should be enjoyed by LOT of ppl ...not just the once with cash...Yes ppl with no cash can enjoy this game, but never even think of purchase anything wickedly cool such as that package...i think thats sort of sad....materialistic....rip off...basicly.
Greetings out...Noodles79
Every player in the game can still buy the C-Store items independently. The bundle just gives you a discount for buying them at all once. So you can buy it all for $125.00 now or buy it all for $181.00 individually later. Your choice. Buying the bundle does seem to give you some perks, though: such as the titles.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Haha... nearly ?60 for that pack. Not a chance in hell :P I know you need to make money, but come on lol. Fix the sever stability issues and I'll think about it :P OOO the Lifetimers are gonna QQ. I'm so glad I didn't get a lifetime sub now :P
Bad form, releasing this and asking for money yet expect for LTS and Gold members to wait for info on what they get. Why not just give us all the info now, would you prefer us rage and make uninformed spending choices?
You dirty rats, now I have to try and convince the wife that this pack is worth the price...and that never works she is like scrooge on steroids.....
Seriously though, I don't know if this pack is a good thing or not....on one hand it means I will spend less on all those things in the future, but on the other, well scroogy wife.
What are everyone else's thoughts on this Legacy Pack?
My thoughts? Your wife sounds like the sane half of the marriage. Listen to her! Do you really NEED 9 ships, 4 of them T5? You can only fly one at a time. Also as far as I remember Dan said that people who have reached T5 rep with New Romulus will automatically get Remans as playable species, so you would probably pay there for nothing. Are a few doffs and costumes really worth it? Reman doffs will probably be pretty standard in the new faction etc. Think like a Vulcan.
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You can keep the titles, master keys, tier 1-4 ships.
I will buy Doff Packs, bridge officers, costume pieces and tier 5 ships as i need them.
Just tell us:
Will Lifetime subscribers be able to play as Liberated Romulan/Reman Borg? This is the most important question for all the lifetime subscribers i know in game. The second most important question is: Will the Liberated Romulan/Reman Borg be playable FROM LAUNCH DAY because it would be really...not good...if it was added later after launch.
We want to start our LoR expierience with the character we want to play through the new content from the beginning and not with another toon while all we do is waiting for the Liberated Borg Romulan/Reman and thinking "damn, i have to play everything again when it is added, but i already know all the new missions". This would be a huge lowering of fun.
The only thing I will say in regards to LTS / Gold is that I would assume we're at least getting that Liberated Borg for the Romulan side for free?
You are confusing a Boff with a playable species. What you get with buying the packs is a Boff. What you get for the LTS is a playable species. The packs make no mention of the playable species.
I asked STO Twiitter (I dontkno who responded) When the details on the LTS / Sub perks were being release they said next souple of weeks. And that pack wont be available pn the Cstore. Just the ships at launch I guess
Since the Lib Borg is a Bridge Officer and not a Playable Species, I would say, No. It is no different then the Female Engineering Officer (I think it is engineering) Currently Available in the C-Store.
Why Golds/Lifers think they should get this stuff for free I can't understand. This is just your standard C-store offers bundled together. You don't get any of that for free do you.
The Playable Reman I understand, they are going to be "Free" at the end of the Rom Rep system, but Cryptic Did say they would also be in the C-store for those who don't want the grind, So here it is.
Whether it is worth the price tag or not is up to the individual. And what they would or would not have gotten or paid for to begin with.
I said Liberated Borg, not Liberated Borg Bridge Officer. I didn't see any information in regards to it yet (to my knowledge) and I'm just raising the question now as a LTS / Gold player we do get Liberated Borg characters to play as for free. Maybe I should have worded my question a little clearer, sorry lol.
I also do hope that we get one of the nice 2000 ZEN ships at Tier 5 though like we do with KDF / FED!
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What qualifies as 'limited time'?
Are we talking LTS limited where it won't last forever but potentially can come back?
Or...
Are we talking limited TOS/DS9 offer where it lasts forever and there is no 'limited time' but consumers feel they need to buy now or else they lose out?
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=9274061&postcount=5
We don't know if Lifers will get a Liberated Rom or Reman as part of the LTS. Dstahl's last comment was that he thought LTSers did.
There are those who do have legacy liberated boffs (I think it came from a specific pre-order, but I don't really remember). No mention of whether that will extend to the Reman though.
The only thing I will say in regards to LTS / Gold is that I would assume we're at least getting that Liberated Borg for the Romulan side for free?
Based on the items included in the pack and their eventual C-store costs, the price isn't steep, it's a deal.
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I missed the part that it's a Boff, still the rest holds true. This looks like all C-Store items sold for a small discount if bought bundled. Lifers and gold accounts don't get any c-store stuff for free or cheaper. (ignoring the stipend mind you)
My Apologies to the OP ! Rage on !
It wasn't targeted solely at the playable Reman, but also at the other stuff we get.
There are 3 Tier 5 ships in the package, we don't know the stats of yet and we also don't know which free ships we're going to get at RA and which ones will be available as Fleet ships.
For example:
If we get a free 9-console D'deridex at 40 in addition to a 10-console version from the Fleet yards and the Retrofit in this package is just a 9-console+ version like the Regent it wouldn't be worth it for me.
If we don't get a D'deridex at 40 and the one from the package is a 10-console ship or if there isn't going to be a Fleet version right away it would be worth it for me.
Just no way for making a $125 decision without knowing more details.
This is a game that should be enjoyed by LOT of ppl ...not just the once with cash...Yes ppl with no cash can enjoy this game, but never even think of purchase anything wickedly cool such as that package...i think thats sort of sad....materialistic....rip off...basicly.
Greetings out...Noodles79
Not to mention, there isnt anything players like my self who have ZEN waiting can get at the moment.
GG.
THIRTY MASTER KEYS?! WTF?! ARE YOU TRING TO DESTROY THE INGAME ECONOMY EVEN FURTHER?!
Since the Lib Borg is a Bridge Officer and not a Playable Species, I would say, No. It is no different then the Female Engineering Officer (I think it is engineering) Currently Available in the C-Store.
Why Golds/Lifers think they should get this stuff for free I can't understand. This is just your standard C-store offers bundled together. You don't get any of that for free do you.
The Playable Reman I understand, they are going to be "Free" at the end of the Rom Rep system, but Cryptic Did say they would also be in the C-store for those who don't want the grind, So here it is.
Whether it is worth the price tag or not is up to the individual. And what they would or would not have gotten or paid for to begin with.
He means most if not all of your questions have been officially answered elsewhere.
http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=852601
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=606891
My thoughts? Your wife sounds like the sane half of the marriage. Listen to her! Do you really NEED 9 ships, 4 of them T5? You can only fly one at a time. Also as far as I remember Dan said that people who have reached T5 rep with New Romulus will automatically get Remans as playable species, so you would probably pay there for nothing. Are a few doffs and costumes really worth it? Reman doffs will probably be pretty standard in the new faction etc. Think like a Vulcan.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
I will buy Doff Packs, bridge officers, costume pieces and tier 5 ships as i need them.
Just tell us:
Will Lifetime subscribers be able to play as Liberated Romulan/Reman Borg? This is the most important question for all the lifetime subscribers i know in game. The second most important question is: Will the Liberated Romulan/Reman Borg be playable FROM LAUNCH DAY because it would be really...not good...if it was added later after launch.
We want to start our LoR expierience with the character we want to play through the new content from the beginning and not with another toon while all we do is waiting for the Liberated Borg Romulan/Reman and thinking "damn, i have to play everything again when it is added, but i already know all the new missions". This would be a huge lowering of fun.
If I simply got the factions for nothing, they'd really feel quite dull, lifeless and like a re-skin of the existing factions.
By having to work towards them, I am presented with a challenge and the reward is that much better.
Cryptic, please continue to not include new content in Lifetime Subscription packages. Let us enjoy chasing stretch goals.
You are confusing a Boff with a playable species. What you get with buying the packs is a Boff. What you get for the LTS is a playable species. The packs make no mention of the playable species.
I said Liberated Borg, not Liberated Borg Bridge Officer. I didn't see any information in regards to it yet (to my knowledge) and I'm just raising the question now as a LTS / Gold player we do get Liberated Borg characters to play as for free. Maybe I should have worded my question a little clearer, sorry lol.
I also do hope that we get one of the nice 2000 ZEN ships at Tier 5 though like we do with KDF / FED!