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  • mirrorseacatmirrorseacat Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    Actually, that's what I thought we were getting.

    If you want to stay Pure Romulan without choosing a side, do so!

    But apparently, you have to choose Starfleet or Klingon, no middle ground.

    Personally, I think this problem could be solved by just buffing up on the XP on the featured episodes, which are the only true non-factional content.

    I'm not going to play the faction because of the condition for playing it mentioned many times, but in theory, if I did play it, I'd be perfectly happy with an unfinished faction until they can give it a proper treatment!

    Heck, I levelled a KDF to max rank on nothing but sector explores!

    And that was back when the game had next to nothing for levelling besides those missions, there are more options now.


    As for the Romulan equivalent of Diplomacy, if they're not motivated to create a unique system at the moment, just let us tag all Diplomacy and Maruading missions and accumulate the points towards the Doffing Rank.

    Starbases might be a bit more complicated, it'll require creating 5 distinct models and the interior as well.

    This is totally what I am after, I would rather have the third option of remaining my OWN ally, not supporting another faction. I dont need Fed ships or KDF ships, I would rather not have a starbase than have a fleet that is part of the KDF or Fed.

    I mean at this point I would be happy to remain a pure Romulan and have no starbase assets at all with the fleet progression just unlocking new vendors in our social hub. And if they are really worried about Romulan Fleet progression because people have "invested" so much into KDF or Fed fleets then why not add a Romulan Fleet bonus to all Romulan fleets that allows them to reach higher tiers with less input/time?
  • ravinravin Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Turbine charges far less than Cryptic does for comparable wares and Turbine's qualify as "gold master" not "pay to beta".

    Let's see, LoTRO Expansion $30-$80, depending on which version you get. STO expansion $0, hmm, not sure what math you are using.
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  • greatbritongreatbriton Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    In this brand-new, special edition of Ask Cryptic, Executive Producer Daniel Stahl delivers answers to player submitted questions about our upcoming expansion.


    Link to the Ask Cryptic.

    A note from dStahl:

    Oh dear. I come back from a holiday, with an Easter spring in my step because - not long now - I would be soon march across the galaxy and reclaim the Endless Sky in the name of the Romulan people, ripping it from the grip of the undeserving Federation and Klingon Empires.

    Instead we get this pseudo-faction 'compromise', where we are asked to go cap in hand for 'allies'. You can't even pretend to ally with them, and stab them in the back later!

    You could say:

    Its a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE faction.

    ;)
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 854 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    tpalelena wrote: »
    I personally am happy that we get to play as D'tan's Romulans.
    A lot of my friends would prefer to be able to play a "good" romulan, instead of a Tal'shiar villain.
    lizwei wrote: »
    Why exactly must the choice be "D'Tan hippy" or "Tal'Shiar villain"?
    How about a normal member of the Star Empire, who believes in the supremacy of the Romulan people above all others, and wants to work to restore it and not mortgage their future to their sworn enemies?

    Have to agree with lizwei here. I want to play as part of the RSE, which DOES exist in STO, and is separate from the Tal'Shiar.

    Not to mention the fact that there are people that enjoy playing the bad guys. They may not be tpalelena's friends, but they do exist. And I would argue that a true Romulan would see both the Tal Shiar working with the Iconians and D'Tan's Fed-Lite Republic "allying" with the Feds and KDF as two sides of the same coin - a deal with the devil that costs the Romulan people their independent soul.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    Have to agree with lizwei here. I want to play as part of the RSE, which DOES exist in STO, and is separate from the Tal'Shiar.

    Not to mention the fact that there are people that enjoy playing the bad guys. They may not be tpalelena's friends, but they do exist. And I would argue that a true Romulan would see both the Tal Shiar working with the Iconians and D'Tan's Fed-Lite Republic "allying" with the Feds and KDF as two sides of the same coin - a deal with the devil that costs the Romulan people their independent soul.
    Read the latest Dev Blog from Goatshark.... It's not seperate, not any more... So yeah, either you're with the Tal'Shiar or in the d'Tan group.....
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  • vulcanclippervulcanclipper Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    Well Cryptic, you've managed to disappoint even me, a hardcore cynic.
    I was genuinely looking forward to a Romulan faction, and instead we get faux Romulans, licking the heels of the Federation and Klingons?

    I am disgusted.

    Cryptic did not invent Hobus disasater. Empires fall. Survivors must adapt. As someone who was born and raised in a great empire that fell apart following a nuclear disaster I deeply identify with the current Romulan paradigm.
  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 854 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Read the latest Dev Blog from Goatshark.... It's not seperate, not any more... So yeah, either you're with the Tal'Shiar or in the d'Tan group.....

    And I say that Cryptic should be innovative in their storyline, and allow us to create a third path, or at the very least choose between the two existing paths.

    Ideally I want an RSE that is independent of both the Iconian influenced Tal Shiar and Spock Jr.'s Fed-Lite Republic.
    Cryptic did not invent Hobus disasater. Empires fall. Survivors must adapt. As someone who was born and raised in a great empire that fell apart following a nuclear disaster I deeply identify with the current Romulan paradigm.

    I am very interested in hearing more about this.
  • fernandojimenezfernandojimenez Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Cryptic did not invent Hobus disasater. Empires fall. Survivors must adapt. As someone who was born and raised in a great empire that fell apart following a nuclear disaster I deeply identify with the current Romulan paradigm.

    There are FED and KDF playable Romulans. Romulan Story, Ships and Costumes dont make a faction. The truth will set you free.
  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    i'm trying to stay positive despit..... everything lol
  • darkelfofficerdarkelfofficer Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    Not to mention the fact that there are people that enjoy playing the bad guys. They may not be tpalelena's friends, but they do exist. And I would argue that a true Romulan would see both the Tal Shiar working with the Iconians and D'Tan's Fed-Lite Republic "allying" with the Feds and KDF as two sides of the same coin - a deal with the devil that costs the Romulan people their independent soul.

    No true Romulan, huh?
  • kingitiikerikingitiikeri Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sry if someone alrdy asked this earlier, but what type cloaking devices Romulan warbirds will have?

    As Romulans are developers of the cloak, I really hope BoP battlecloak will be standard for romulan ships. As it would be ridiculous to have romulan warbird backing out from fight just to get cloak up.
    Every single time you have had a chance to play romulan ships in trek based games, their tactics cornerstone has been hit and hide, provided by fast cloak and plasma torps.

    I really hope D'Deridex will have same shock and awe than b4, appearing in middle of the battle, releasing volley of plasma, then hiding again before enemy even knows what hit him.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    never thought i would ever write this but it seems some of the staff are being open and honest as possible, i mean you look back a few years and all you saw was vague to the point that looking through glass was like looking through a brick wall with them. +1 to the staff on that, thats gained back some respect.

    as for the previous poster, rommie ships are not designed for prolonged combat, their ships have cloaking devices used for aggressive hit and run attacks. when it comes to an assault on a borg tac cube a D'Deridex wouldnt stand a chance and their upgraded warbirds the "Mogai" which is actually a Valdore type, it was crippled with a few disruptor strikes from the Scimitar while the other one lost one of its wings in the process, again due to disruptor hits.

    DS9 series during the dominion war showed that the Romulans were no match for dominion tech at all, they just made up the numbers and that was it, at least compared to fed and klingon tech which can stand upto some punishment, even the BOP's.

    as for the ability to decloak fire and recloak, that can be abused too easily, there would need to be a cloaking cd.
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  • kingitiikerikingitiikeri Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Exactly what I tried to say, Rom ships generally are weaker than counterparts of other major powers in galaxy, but they compensate with cloak and other subterfuge tactics. Examples from other trek games and publishers

    Starfleet Command Series: Romulan ships were slow, and low HP, but right use of powerful cloak and plasma torps they become deadly.

    Armada series: Romulans are generally weaker than other races, but they build up quick, and have secondary weapons that can be used to spy or disable enemy ships when attacking by surprise.

    Birth Of the federation: in turn based combat, Romulans get "free starting turn" for all ships that are cloaked, but yet again, HP and weapon power is lower than other races.

    So I don't want rommie "super ships", just that they are similar than rommies b4, using extensive cloak tactics to counter their flaws in other areas. As stated, Romulan warbird cannot last long in head to head combat, but with hit and hide with battle cloak, they can survive. Personally I've always liked to play roms with these flaws, as you really need to think, instead of ust blasting head to head with any opponent.
  • gantoris007gantoris007 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Great job Cryptic. Seriously. :)

    I hope you don't let all the rude idiots get you down.

    Tons of work and love went into this.

    Well done! Masterful.

    -Vree
  • darkelfofficerdarkelfofficer Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Exactly what I tried to say, Rom ships generally are weaker than counterparts of other major powers in galaxy, but they compensate with cloak and other subterfuge tactics. Examples from other trek games and publishers

    Starfleet Command Series: Romulan ships were slow, and low HP, but right use of powerful cloak and plasma torps they become deadly.

    Armada series: Romulans are generally weaker than other races, but they build up quick, and have secondary weapons that can be used to spy or disable enemy ships when attacking by surprise.

    Birth Of the federation: in turn based combat, Romulans get "free starting turn" for all ships that are cloaked, but yet again, HP and weapon power is lower than other races.

    So I don't want rommie "super ships", just that they are similar than rommies b4, using extensive cloak tactics to counter their flaws in other areas. As stated, Romulan warbird cannot last long in head to head combat, but with hit and hide with battle cloak, they can survive. Personally I've always liked to play roms with these flaws, as you really need to think, instead of ust blasting head to head with any opponent.

    I don't know... the D'Deridex is supposed to be bigger and more powerful than the Galaxy, but slower, and the quantum singularity power source is supposed to be potentially more powerful than M/AM, but also more unreliable. Or something like that. It seems more like a "cripple them with an alpha strike and then finish them quickly" to me... sort of like a Rogue in WoW. Strong with an opener, not good in prolonged engagements.

    Then again I really hope to get to do the viral matrix/tractor beam/high yield plasma torpedo combo the NPC Warbirds have.

    edit: Oh, plus they have to be able to tank, at least some of them. Hide-and-seek doesn't make for good tanking.
  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't know... the D'Deridex is supposed to be bigger and more powerful than the Galaxy, but slower, and the quantum singularity power source is supposed to be potentially more powerful than M/AM, but also more unreliable. Or something like that.
    I'd say the big unreliability problem with using quantum singularities as power sources was that we've been told that they can't be shut down once activated (presumably they can be neutralized somehow, just not in a way that allows it to be restarted) - makes it harder to repair or modify it.
  • commandersalvekcommandersalvek Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    never thought i would ever write this but it seems some of the staff are being open and honest as possible, i mean you look back a few years and all you saw was vague to the point that looking through glass was like looking through a brick wall with them. +1 to the staff on that, thats gained back some respect.

    as for the previous poster, rommie ships are not designed for prolonged combat, their ships have cloaking devices used for aggressive hit and run attacks. when it comes to an assault on a borg tac cube a D'Deridex wouldnt stand a chance and their upgraded warbirds the "Mogai" which is actually a Valdore type, it was crippled with a few disruptor strikes from the Scimitar while the other one lost one of its wings in the process, again due to disruptor hits.

    DS9 series during the dominion war showed that the Romulans were no match for dominion tech at all, they just made up the numbers and that was it, at least compared to fed and klingon tech which can stand upto some punishment, even the BOP's.

    as for the ability to decloak fire and recloak, that can be abused too easily, there would need to be a cloaking cd.

    First of all what vessel in Alpha/Beta Quadrants stands a chance against a Borg Tac Cube?-Hello wolf 359 and First Contact-Not the most balanced way to give an example of the D'Deridex Warbird in combat

    The D'deridex Warbird does not get a proper showing in the series -IN DS9 we get a one sided battle of 20 Tal Shiar Warbirds and Cardassian Keldons against 150 Jem Hadar Fighters and we get get shots of static warbirds exploding in this ambush.

    In the final battles -again we see warbirds here and there -we get the typical Romulans take the hit and their flagship is mentioned as lost. I saw nothing in the show that said D'Deridex was fragile compared to fed/Klingon designs

    None of this is good as a reflection of the Warbirds Power

    Even in print we get only a few measurements to work with:

    Only in STTNG Tech Manual we get a power measurement of a "phaser pulse" of 20 Gigawatts from a Warbird compared the Galaxy's 12 type X emitters rated at 5.1 Megawatts each (In one array i.e. Upper dorsal) or the Klingon B'rels Primary disruptor cannon rated at max of 35.78 Megawatts (Klingon BOP OWM)

    Here clealy The Warbird has got massive power for its weapons but the whole "canon" thing kills this.

    I would argue the Romulans would not develop a vessel based on such a powerful power source on a weak frame and designed for nothing for hit and runs and given how warbirds are used by the various commanders on the show -they were confident to take on a galaxy class head on.
  • alopenalopen Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Exactly what I tried to say, Rom ships generally are weaker than counterparts of other major powers in galaxy, but they compensate with cloak and other subterfuge tactics. Examples from other trek games and publishers

    Starfleet Command Series: Romulan ships were slow, and low HP, but right use of powerful cloak and plasma torps they become deadly.

    Here's the thing. Romulans aren't going to be unique with their traditional plasma torpedo weapon. Everyone has access to everything in this game and Plasma torps are awful alpha strike weapons in this particular game. :rolleyes: (Really Cryptic, which show/movie/previous game ever gave you the idea to convert a feared one hit kill weapon into a DOT)

    Instead, their advantages have to come from Cloak specific abilities. Something to consider is that Klingons alreday have full access to Romulan Boffs and consoles via reputation system and use them for their BOPs. Cryptic has mentioned the singularity core a few times. I would venture that aside from visuals, that core will be the only thing really unique to Romulans.

    Off topic but don't Romulans use disruptors as energy weapons? Any geeks know the difference between Romulan and Klingon disruptors besides beam vs. cannons?
  • darkelfofficerdarkelfofficer Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    alopen wrote: »
    Off topic but don't Romulans use disruptors as energy weapons? Any geeks know the difference between Romulan and Klingon disruptors besides beam vs. cannons?

    I kind of hate that I can answer this, but in Generations when they're searching the station that had been attacked, Worf names off some disruptor type as having been used in the attack, and Riker says something like "Great, that narrows it down to Romulan, Breen, or Klingon."

    So there is no difference.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    First of all what vessel in Alpha/Beta Quadrants stands a chance against a Borg Tac Cube?-Hello wolf 359 and First Contact-Not the most balanced way to give an example of the D'Deridex Warbird in combat

    The D'deridex Warbird does not get a proper showing in the series -IN DS9 we get a one sided battle of 20 Tal Shiar Warbirds and Cardassian Keldons against 150 Jem Hadar Fighters and we get get shots of static warbirds exploding in this ambush.

    In the final battles -again we see warbirds here and there -we get the typical Romulans take the hit and their flagship is mentioned as lost. I saw nothing in the show that said D'Deridex was fragile compared to fed/Klingon designs

    None of this is good as a reflection of the Warbirds Power

    Even in print we get only a few measurements to work with:

    Only in STTNG Tech Manual we get a power measurement of a "phaser pulse" of 20 Gigawatts from a Warbird compared the Galaxy's 12 type X emitters rated at 5.1 Megawatts each (In one array i.e. Upper dorsal) or the Klingon B'rels Primary disruptor cannon rated at max of 35.78 Megawatts (Klingon BOP OWM)

    Here clealy The Warbird has got massive power for its weapons but the whole "canon" thing kills this.

    I would argue the Romulans would not develop a vessel based on such a powerful power source on a weak frame and designed for nothing for hit and runs and given how warbirds are used by the various commanders on the show -they were confident to take on a galaxy class head on.

    the first part was meant towards sto in relation to where the warbird should be. lets table that, im sure there will be balance at some point when it comes to the game. that was just speculation without any facts and just thinking out aloud.

    as for the warbird in the trek series, well lets look at it like this, the D'Deridex was a match for the Galaxy, no question, but its design is apparently old compared to some of the newer tech, i mean this warbird was designed off the back of the ancient D7 klingon cruiser from 150 years ago (from the time line of the game), even the Excelsior was showing its age just as much as the K't'inga has done. with the newer warbird (valdore type) it looked like it was meant as an upgrade to the iconic warbird we all like to see, but clearly it is still fragile compared to ships like the enterprise-e. it is not all bad though, the duras sisters took out the enterprise-d without much trouble and they had an aging BOP with limited armor and power, so clearly federation ship armor is not as great either, but their shields are good.

    i would say that its not so much the ships having a greater weakness as a lack of shielding and heavy reliance of the cloaking device in the romulan strategies, without it i do not think the romulan commanders can command as well, remember their empire is built on an imperialistic ambitions which shows in their ability to use their vessel and command, for example bringing two warbirds to showdown with a galaxy class ship instead of 1v1. if you put a federation combat captain or a klingon veteran on the romulan ship, i bet it will fight as well as any other ship in the quadrant with some adjustments from that experience.
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  • alopenalopen Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I kind of hate that I can answer this, but in Generations when they're searching the station that had been attacked, Worf names off some disruptor type as having been used in the attack, and Riker says something like "Great, that narrows it down to Romulan, Breen, or Klingon."

    So there is no difference.

    Its ok. Your among friends now :D
  • alopenalopen Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013

    as for the warbird in the trek series, well lets look at it like this, the D'Deridex was a match for the Galaxy, no question, but its design is apparently old compared to some of the newer tech, i mean this warbird was designed off the back of the ancient D7 klingon cruiser from 150 years ago (from the time line of the game), even the Excelsior was showing its age just as much as the K't'inga has done. with the newer warbird (valdore type) it looked like it was meant as an upgrade to the iconic warbird we all like to see, but clearly it is still fragile compared to ships like the enterprise-e. it is not all bad though, the duras sisters took out the enterprise-d without much trouble and they had an aging BOP with limited armor and power, so clearly federation ship armor is not as great either, but their shields are good.

    Well for our purposes, age is irrelevant. The K'tinga and B'rel retrofits are good ships in game so a D'Deridex retro fit won't be held to requirement that it is too old to be competitive. And with the way the game is setup, Romulans won't be able to utilize the cloaking device at some kind of strategic level. The ships have to be competitive at the end of the day in 1v1 fights.

    But your right. This all speculation. Federation ships and Klingon ships definetly have different feels to them. I hope they give Romulan ships a distinct feel. I'm just observing that many obvious Romulan traits have already been given to the other factions via boffs, rep gear, etc. On that note: Romulan 3 piece Space Set blows. Would the devs give Romulans something uniquely Romulan at end game that is competitive with MACO or KHG. I will laugh if they use the space set of whatever fleet they join. :rolleyes:
  • g00dbarg00dbar Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    whoops wrong thread :3
  • g00dbarg00dbar Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    my question is when this new content is released in may will we be able to use the aegis space set with Romulan faction characters and if so will it have a color corresponding to the faction just like Feds [blue] and KDF [red],i would assume we would get bright green hull outline's ,green hexagonal deflector effects and green circular Ion trails? I would like to know as i have a Aegis space set sitting in my bank waiting to be used for a new character.I understand you cant say much about what is to come in may but to put it into a Yes and No question will we as Romulan players get access to romulan specific items and/or gear from levels 1 - 39 episodes?
  • rooster707rooster707 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Will Federation Romulans be able to wear Starfleet uniforms?
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    rooster707 wrote: »
    Will Federation Romulans be able to wear Starfleet uniforms?

    No, that was already answered by the way. You just unlock a different uniform style by joining either the feds or the kdf. ;)
  • alopenalopen Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    g00dbar wrote: »
    my question is when this new content is released in may will we be able to use the aegis space set with Romulan faction characters and if so will it have a color corresponding to the faction just like Feds [blue] and KDF [red],i would assume we would get bright green hull outline's ,green hexagonal deflector effects and green circular Ion trails? I would like to know as i have a Aegis space set sitting in my bank waiting to be used for a new character.I understand you cant say much about what is to come in may but to put it into a Yes and No question will we as Romulan players get access to romulan specific items and/or gear from levels 1 - 39 episodes?

    Yeah I'm doing the same thing for doffs. It seems that it has been hinted they can do doff missions of their respective faction choice, I'm not sure if they clearly stated if they can use the faction doffs or not. I hope they do, if they are going through with the alliance system. Fed doffs are ALOT cheaper then KDF doffs because there are more of them on the exchange. :mad: Romulans will suffer from same problem 6 months from now if they have a 3rd set of doffs.
  • rooster707rooster707 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Will our Fed/KDF characters get some sort of bonus if we have a Romulan on the same side?
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  • geoswordgeosword Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    With warp drives being customizable, will Transwarp Drives also be a part of the system, since the Excelsior and Tuffli have Transwarp Drives?
  • batdacebatdace Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I may have missed this but what's the cost on the expansion? I'm really excited about playing a Romulan and I want to make sure my bank account is ready too :)
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