I think he's referring to the idea that the fleet mothballs old ships upon decommissioning them, rather like modern navies to to some extent.
Rather than your literal interpretation of it as ships that we have mothballed.
I don't think that's what he meant. He first mentions "instead of a T5 Con McBardarse" ... which suggests the poster thinks this is a T5 Constitution thread. And the poster does use the phrase "ships we have mothballed."
I'm sticking by my take on the post. The person thought we were discussing a T5 Constitution, didn't realize it was a Constellation thread, and the person's suggestion to use ships we have mothballed isn't really viable since the Constellation isn't a ship anyone can "captain" in the game.
Actually, the Stargazer NCC-2893 was referenced in game in the mission Researcher Rescue. The Stargazer discovered ancient ruins in the Kassae System in 2349.
oh, Sternbach wrote the article about the Constellation-class and Intrepid-class in the Magazine.
Accidents happen. I would like to see the Constellation-class as the first true healing and support carrier, probably close to what the KDF Varanus is.
I already know its not a connie thread. Sheesh, you people. Con'Mcbadarse was made due to the fact that people are asking for an old ship, much like the excelsior, and automatically bring it to T5 status without a T2-4 varient. How can we bring back a ship that people haven't mothballed yet? Like some people said, we don't have any to mothball thus it has been mothballed as a whole.
Edit: Should have reworded it because the excelsior has a t3 varient so it makes the whole sentence weird like.
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The same is true of the Klingon B'rel. And Somraw.
Honestly, we should be flying T5 Connies and NX Escorts by now!
I SUPPORT THIS! GIVE ME MY CONNIE>... Pretty please... :rolleyes:
Seriously, I'd take a Fleet T5 Connie with the Excelsior's BOFF and stats quite happily.... or the Ambassadors.... or the Breen... Id take a picture of a t5 connie at this point. sigh
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Ok so heres my request slash argument for the Constellation class to be T5.
In the Next Generation episode Peak Performance Commander Riker takes command of a Constellation class star ship to participate in simulated combat with the Enterprise. His ship was beat up, torn apart, run down, warp inert, and overall in bad condition. In a few hours he had it going and engaged the Enterprise.
In the next few scenes he managed to inflict heavy damage to the Enterprise by using a ruse for cover. The point here is that with new weapons and new equipment the Constellation class took on a Galaxy class and would have probably won the fight.
So lets bring this ship into the game. ^^ I wont try to think up stats for it but maby give it a sensor ghost console? Or the ability to perform the Picard maneuver? It would be pretty sick to appear off your targets bow and get a shiled penetration buff on weapons for a few seconds form it. hehe Well there it is, lets hear constructive feedback.
I think we should start calling Zombie threads Borg threads, as the Borg are the zombies of the Trek Universe.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Ok, the Constellation is not a carrier to the best of my knowledge. From what was seen in show it was just a cruiser with 4 nacelles. On to next point, Constellations are not small! Look at the episode the battle. It is only slightly smaller than a Galaxy class. The Enterprise D is shown towing one, clear size comparison right there. Also the argument about age will never work. Excelsior was around when the Constitution was about. That means the Exc predates the Constellation by a great many years. And the Exc is one of the best ships in the game!
It was a miscalling issue..sorta like the Defiant issues from DS9. The Constellation also uses a Constitution/Miranda saucer section with added extras around it which we all know are nowhere near the size of a Galaxy class. It was a goof onscreen. plain and simple. They had to use a model on the quick.
it is all good fed get a new ship but as always the KDF and Romulans get left out and get screwed over. Where is the love for people that do not play fed
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I'm sticking by my take on the post. The person thought we were discussing a T5 Constitution, didn't realize it was a Constellation thread, and the person's suggestion to use ships we have mothballed isn't really viable since the Constellation isn't a ship anyone can "captain" in the game.
that's the stargazer-A a T3 heavy cruiser
Um no, the Stargazer-A was not even commissioned yet. The mission referred to Picard and the Stargazer from 2349.
Accidents happen. I would like to see the Constellation-class as the first true healing and support carrier, probably close to what the KDF Varanus is.
Edit: Should have reworded it because the excelsior has a t3 varient so it makes the whole sentence weird like.
Speaking of old ships, it looks like the TOS era Bird of Prey will be the starter ship for the Romulans. AND a T5 Retrofit.
How's that make any sense?
It doesn't.
The same is true of the Klingon B'rel. And Somraw.
Honestly, we should be flying T5 Connies and NX Escorts by now!
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I don't know. I guess CBS[John Van Citters] is finally not saying no?
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I SUPPORT THIS! GIVE ME MY CONNIE>... Pretty please... :rolleyes:
Seriously, I'd take a Fleet T5 Connie with the Excelsior's BOFF and stats quite happily.... or the Ambassadors.... or the Breen... Id take a picture of a t5 connie at this point. sigh
Constellation Hull in game:
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I think we should start calling Zombie threads Borg threads, as the Borg are the zombies of the Trek Universe.
Nah, doesn't sound as good.
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That's just the saucer. It was removed according to the last tribble patch notes: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1022291
It was a miscalling issue..sorta like the Defiant issues from DS9. The Constellation also uses a Constitution/Miranda saucer section with added extras around it which we all know are nowhere near the size of a Galaxy class. It was a goof onscreen. plain and simple. They had to use a model on the quick.
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Forum rules, regulations, and etiquette escape me, It's considered bad to post in an old thread while at the same time it's considered bad to make a new thread which is the same or similar to an old one, by that logic no one should ever post anything in a forum because a person will get attacked by people either way.
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