Never gave much thought to Romulans. To be honest, never gave much thought to Klingons either (outside of playing a Klingon in some crappy thing at Universal when I was a kid a million years ago).
Had Star Trek gone a single faction route (with potential monster play, if one must) - I would have been fine with that.
TOS, TAS, TNG, VOY, DS9, ENT, all the movies - even JJTrek.
Tada, the Federation.
Doesn't mean I haven't grown somewhat accustomed to my KDF characters - doesn't mean I haven't - ahem - raged about the inequality between Fed and KDF (even knowing that Star Trek was what it was...Cryptic decided to go two factions, blame them)...but honestly, back when Perpetual was talking about it - I just wanted to explore the Universe in my Starfleet Cruiser. You know, play Star Trek Online.
We've got what we've got, though - but Romulans? Playable Romulans? Never crossed my mind...
...course, you know - a Hirogen Engineer in an Apex Battleship with 4 Port/4 Starboard weapons... /cough
JJ trek has NO connection to the Federation its set entirely in the battlestar galactica die hard universe
While I'll grant you that JJTrek is Fast Star and Trek Furious... the Federation's still there. We might be following the crew of Beverly Hills 902outer space...but they're still Federation officers. One might no doubt wonder if JJ Abrams was the adopted son of/and raised by Michael Bay and Uwe Boll... but... okay, I think you get the point.
1 the federation seems to promote the lowest ranked person present to command despite him being a sexist , cheating , half trained , gun happy , spotty teen
2 the federations entire fleet gets wiped out in under 3 minutes
3 a "federation officer" fires a crew member out in an escape pod to a death world with no valid reason
4 phasers with recoil
5 Romulans that aren't romulan (they are clearly some sort of Mitchells in space (Eastenders reference non Brits may not get it) Bald Hardmen with ninja skills)
frankly its either the mirror universe or he has NEVER seen an episode of Trek (any of them)
1 the federation seems to promote the lowest ranked person present to command despite him being a sexist , cheating , half trained , gun happy , spotty teen
I believe in the movie Kirk did not go into the Academy until his early/mid 20s, and so would be in his mid to late 20s after 4 years in the Academy. He's hardly a teen.
2 the federations entire fleet gets wiped out in under 3 minutes
Technically it takes longer then 3 minutes to get to Vulcan, even at maximum warp.
3 a "federation officer" fires a crew member out in an escape pod to a death world with no valid reason
How else are we going to meet Spock?
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I wanted to play Romulan before the game was ever released. I played fed and KDF because I didn't have the choice to play Romulan. Now that I will be able to do so, I'll make a Romulan on day 1.
So, for me, it's far more important than anything else. However, I understand some players will be frustrated because they don't care. But the Romulan faction will likely be released alongside some FE involving the return of Sela, probably Taris, Mol'Rihan, and Tholian reputation. It's not like you will not have content at all, just less.
1 the federation seems to promote the lowest ranked person present to command despite him being a sexist , cheating , half trained , gun happy , spotty teen
2 the federations entire fleet gets wiped out in under 3 minutes
3 a "federation officer" fires a crew member out in an escape pod to a death world with no valid reason
4 phasers with recoil
5 Romulans that aren't romulan (they are clearly some sort of Mitchells in space (Eastenders reference non Brits may not get it) Bald Hardmen with ninja skills)
frankly its either the mirror universe or he has NEVER seen an episode of Trek (any of them)
You forgot:
- Starfleet security is now made up of thugs who start bar fights with minimal provocation.
- Vulcans are now so incredibly stupid and racist that I'm surprised they didn't have a scene where they put on pointed hoods and burned a giant IDIC in front of Amanda's house.
- The only way Uhura can get a post on the Enterprise is by having sex with the first officer. Way to make her more relevant a character for the modern age, JJ.
- Chekov is now a kid who's a supergenius at everything. That's right, they turned Chekov into Wesley.
- Scotty is a scatterbrained moron who's only friend is a space rat.
- Sulu, trained as a pilot all his career and one of the most solid helmsmen and captains in the entire Trek continuity, doesn't know the Enterprise has a handbrake.
I believe in the movie Kirk did not go into the Academy until his early/mid 20s, and so would be in his mid to late 20s after 4 years in the Academy. He's hardly a teen.
He sure acts like one.
Technically it takes longer then 3 minutes to get to Vulcan, even at maximum warp.
What, you expect the movie to adhere to canon speeds when it mangles everything else?
How else are we going to meet Spock?
I don't know, I think any writer worth a damn could come up with a way that doesn't involve young Spock committing attempted murder.
- Starfleet security is now made up of thugs who start bar fights with minimal provocation.
You have, obviously, never been in the military and been to a Navy bar.
- Vulcans are now so incredibly stupid and racist that I'm surprised they didn't have a scene where they put on pointed hoods and burned a giant IDIC in front of Amanda's house.
The Vulcans seemed fairly racist in Enterprise, and lets not forget that young Vulcans have not learned to master their emotions entirely.
- The only way Uhura can get a post on the Enterprise is by having sex with the first officer. Way to make her more relevant a character for the modern age, JJ.
Technically Spock did not want her on the Enterprise, which is why she was assigned another ship; but she played the girlfriend card.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Minus using a TRIBBLE actor to play spock. And I don't say that as a hater it's just his feminism is so obvious he ruins the coldness and masculinity of the spock character.
He is too soft.
Just like leonard is too old now to do the iconic facial expressions that build the character.
Come to think of it, I didn't connect with any of the characters, liked the story lmao.
Well the usage of extra lights hitting the camera here and there was okay, that I would have kept but pretty much everything else I'd have redone.
ANYWAY, playing the romulan faction for me depends a lot the story and of course the end ships. And maybe a little surprisingly the romulan outfits. If they are worse off than klings that might be a game breaker for me.
Minus using a TRIBBLE actor to play spock. And I don't say that as a hater it's just his feminism is so obvious he ruins the coldness and masculinity of the spock character.
He is too soft.
Just like leonard is too old now to do the iconic facial expressions that build the character.
Come to think of it, I didn't connect with any of the characters, liked the story lmao.
You have, obviously, never been in the military and been to a Navy bar.
Star Trek. Enlightened future of humanity. Peaceful explorers? Ring any bells? No?
The Vulcans seemed fairly racist in Enterprise,
Which was stupid too. So stupid that they had an entire arc in season 4 to explain why the Vulcans are being buttheads and fixing them.
and lets not forget that young Vulcans have not learned to master their emotions entirely.
I'm not even talking about the kids (who's taunts from TOS have now been upgraded to bullying and shoving. Most illogical), I'm talking about the idiot on the Vulcan science panel thing openly insulting Spock's mother. To his face.
Technically Spock did not want her on the Enterprise, which is why she was assigned another ship; but she played the girlfriend card.
Because he didn't want it to look like he was giving prime posts to his girlfriend.. even though that's what he ends up doing.
So again, Uhura has no relevancy aside from being Spock's bit on the side. GG.
It didn't matter much to me. However I wanted to see a Romulan faction. Since that was the 3rd major group on Star Trek. And they always went well with the 3 circles of main groups. Being the Feds, KDF, and Romulan.
I look forward to creating a Romulan when it releases. Got some idea what I want to create. So only time will tell. Still time to think on what to do.
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Star Trek. Enlightened future of humanity. Peaceful explorers? Ring any bells? No?
You mean the enlightened future shown in Enterprise where the humans are so racist they attack Phlox in a bar?
I'm not even talking about the kids (who's taunts from TOS have now been upgraded to bullying and shoving. Most illogical), I'm talking about the idiot on the Vulcan science panel thing openly insulting Spock's mother. To his face.
To a completely logical being discussing a parents' shortcoming is not racist. I thought that was the most Vulcan scene in the movie - as clearly Spock has emotional control issues.
Because he didn't want it to look like he was giving prime posts to his girlfriend.. even though that's what he ends up doing.
So again, Uhura has no relevancy aside from being Spock's bit on the side. GG.
No. He did not want the emotional distraction for them both, which is why she was given another ship. And she didn't get a prime post on the Enterprise even after she played the gf card. She was relegated to the hallway com systems. She earned her spot on the bridge through her own skill and moxy.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
You mean the enlightened future shown in Enterprise where the humans are so racist they attack Phlox in a bar?
It's Phlox. He's basically Dr. Mengele with Neelix's face. Ghandi would attack him in a bar.
Seriously though, that's in the past. Also it's Enterprise. You can't really defend garbage with TRIBBLE/
To a completely logical being discussing a parents' shortcoming is not racist.
To assume one has a shortcoming based on being of mixed race despite adhering to your society's teachings is illogical.
I thought that was the most Vulcan scene in the movie - as clearly Spock has emotional control issues.
Well since you like bringing up Enterprise so much, so did Soval.
No. He did not want the emotional distraction for them both, which is why she was given another ship. And she didn't get a prime post on the Enterprise even after she played the gf card. She was relegated to the hallway com systems. She earned her spot on the bridge through her own skill and moxy.
What skill was that? The ability to follow Kirk while he acts insane? The ability to "comfort" Spock?
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Originally Posted by sollvax
1 the federation seems to promote the lowest ranked person present to command despite him being a sexist , cheating , half trained , gun happy , spotty teen
I believe in the movie Kirk did not go into the Academy until his early/mid 20s, and so would be in his mid to late 20s after 4 years in the Academy. He's hardly a teen.
and yet he is one
he has visible zits
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2 the federations entire fleet gets wiped out in under 3 minutes
Technically it takes longer then 3 minutes to get to Vulcan, even at maximum warp.
i was refering to after arrival
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3 a "federation officer" fires a crew member out in an escape pod to a death world with no valid reason
How else are we going to meet Spock?
several ways
Uhura could have a LINE thats not about flirting "Captain im detecting A distress signal and a vulcan life sign "
He could be beamed into space in a suit and rescued
or hell maybe we could just not have him at all
As to fights in naval bars
I have broken a couple up and its usually Junior officers doing the fighting (often pilots)
It's Phlox. He's basically Dr. Mengele with Neelix's face. Ghandi would attack him in a bar.
Seriously though, that's in the past. Also it's Enterprise. You can't really defend garbage with TRIBBLE/
But it's not that far in the past in the TOS era. Archer is still an Admiral in the early TOS era. We're not talking time difference between TOS and Nemesis here.
And let's remember how the crew of the Enterprise treated Spock when they learned that Romulans looked like Vulcans in TOS. Racism never really dies.
To assume one has a shortcoming based on being of mixed race despite adhering to your society's teachings is illogical.
Not at all. It is like talking about the fact that red-headed people's skin is more sensitive to sunlight. It's just part of genetics.
What skill was that? The ability to follow Kirk while he acts insane? The ability to "comfort" Spock?
You do understand that the foundation of Star Trek is one of loyalty and friendship, right? Spock snapped out of Pon Farr when he the had killed Kirk. Bones coming out of retirement because his Kirk asked him to. Spock giving up the kolinahr because of friendship. Kirk and his crews sacrificed everything to save McCoy and Spock's katra.
You forget that Uhura has just spent 4 years dealing with Kirk on an almost daily basis in the Academy. It might be 3 minutes in the movie but it's 4 years in continuity. They're friends, even if not close friends.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I am NOT saying no to the the Romulan Faction, but did we really want them that bad? Or rather, was a romulan faction your first choice?
I personally wanted more Federation and Klingon content. The content they have been realseasing , I love. I am also sure they would not make another "Hide and Seek" , but more past imperfects ... (if you see what I mean)
So ... me? I would have choosen more story content
What about you?
I've wanted them since day one. So yes, I really want them bad.
Not to burst your bubble but I'm nearly 50 and can get zits if I eat certain foods.
several ways
Uhura could have a LINE thats not about flirting "Captain im detecting A distress signal and a vulcan life sign "
He could be beamed into space in a suit and rescued
or hell maybe we could just not have him at all
That part was a joke.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
But it's not that far in the past in the TOS era. Archer is still an Admiral in the early TOS era. We're not talking time difference between TOS and Nemesis here.
And let's remember how the crew of the Enterprise treated Spock when they learned that Romulans looked like Vulcans in TOS. Racism never really dies.
That guy was one TRIBBLE who was never seen again, so he never really amounted to anything.
The occasional bad apple vs. a whole team of Starfleet security who engage in violent fights against their own kind for no reason.
Not at all. It is like talking about the fact that red-headed people's skin is more sensitive to sunlight. It's just part of genetics.
Except that since Spock passed is exams or whatever he needed to get into the science academy with flying colours, the guy has no reason to point out these shortcomings and certainly no reason to taunt him over it. Especially since his father, a respected member of Vulcan society is RIGHT THERE.
So this guy is insulting the mother of an applicant, and insulting the wife of a colleague. There is no way that this is remotely logical.
You do understand that the foundation of Star Trek is one of loyalty and friendship, right? Spock snapped out of Pon Farr when he the had killed Kirk. Bones coming out of retirement because his Kirk asked him to. Spock giving up the kolinahr because of friendship. Kirk and his crews sacrificed everything to save McCoy and Spock's katra.
So?
You forget that Uhura has just spent 4 years dealing with Kirk on an almost daily basis in the Academy. It might be 3 minutes in the movie but it's 4 years in continuity. They're friends, even if not close friends.
Yeah she's spent 4 years dealing with an immature, unworthy TRIBBLE with the social manners of a mountain goat. I wouldn't call that friendship.
As to being 50 and still getting spots have you considered growing a beard ??
A Face with a beard becomes less prone to spots and blemished even after its removed
back to trek
Archer is a holodeck character and thus extremely soft canon
ditto his pet blowfish spunky/phlox
anything from enterprise can be considered soft canon thanks to that nice commander riker
Shatner's Kirk probably had spots when he was a similar age. Shatner's Kirk DEFINITELY slept around. Shatner's Kirk cheated on the same test. Just saying.
Archer is a holodeck character and thus extremely soft canon
ditto his pet blowfish spunky/phlox
anything from enterprise can be considered soft canon thanks to that nice commander riker
And when I see statements like that I know who I no longer need to take seriously.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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Originally Posted by sollvax
He has spots
he sleeps around
he cheats on tests
he is therefore unfit to command a shuttlepod
Shatner's Kirk probably had spots when he was a similar age. Shatner's Kirk DEFINITELY slept around. Shatner's Kirk cheated on the same test. Just saying.
Shatners kirk was an ENSIGN when he had spots
he did not command anything
and interestingly did not cheat the same way (seduction and corruption of impressionable women)
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Archer is a holodeck character and thus extremely soft canon
ditto his pet blowfish spunky/phlox
anything from enterprise can be considered soft canon thanks to that nice commander riker
And when I see statements like that I know who I no longer need to take seriously.
holodeck programs are NOT hard canon (otherwise captain proton is canon)
and as the final episode revealed it was a reg barclay holonovel
none of its actually very solid is it
and as the final episode revealed it was a reg barclay holonovel
none of its actually very solid is it
it was a recreation of a real, historical event, much like all the different recreations of famous earth battles o'brien and bashir often participated in throughout DS9
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Are you honestly saying that because someone has acne or a skin condition that they are somehow incompetent in life?
he did not command anything
As an Ensign he was an officer and certainly did command crewmen under his rank.
and interestingly did not cheat the same way (seduction and corruption of impressionable women)
We have absolutely no idea how Shatner's Kirk got access to the computers to reprogram the test. Knowing Kirk seduction probably had something to do with it, though.
holodeck programs are NOT hard canon (otherwise captain proton is canon)
and as the final episode revealed it was a reg barclay holonovel
none of its actually very solid is it
The holodeck makes assumptions based on actual events. Every moment of the crew's life is not recorded. The Starfleet records tell people that Archer and his crew did X on Stardate Y. It does not tell us what each crew member was talking about, who they were dating, or what they were eating during those events. The holodeck makes up all the details which have nothing to do with the actual records. This is why Leah Brahms was so different in the holodeck simulation Geordi ran than in real life.
What the crew were saying to Chef is largely fabricated - unless someone put said conversation in an official record. The fact that the NX existed or that Tripp died during a specific mission is fact.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
holodeck programs are NOT hard canon (otherwise captain proton is canon)
and as the final episode revealed it was a reg barclay holonovel
none of its actually very solid is it
lolololol Are you serious?
Looks like Kirk was not the only one sleeping while he was suposed to do sth. else.
Enterprise is as canon as it gets. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it any less canon.
FYI, only the final episode of ENT is portrayed as a holodeck program and I'm sure that anyone who paid attention while watching the show can remember that in that final episode Riker played some of the characters on board the Enterprise, like the chef for example. If it was a holodeck program, we'd see Riker, Troy, Barclay, Picard or anyone else from the TNG cast for that matter in every episode of ENT. Therefore, your logic is faulty.
With that said, having only KDF as an alt faction really helped me to appreciate the Klingons much more than I ever did. And much respect to the people in the mostly "PvP faction" who tend to not retreat or leave teammates behind as much as Fed players do.
Except that since Spock passed is exams or whatever he needed to get into the science academy with flying colours, the guy has no reason to point out these shortcomings and certainly no reason to taunt him over it. Especially since his father, a respected member of Vulcan society is RIGHT THERE.
So this guy is insulting the mother of an applicant, and insulting the wife of a colleague. There is no way that this is remotely logical.
Err, Vulcans being "open" about their thoughts in what is perceived in a rude way, or even being complete jerks is not something that is unheard of.
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Had Star Trek gone a single faction route (with potential monster play, if one must) - I would have been fine with that.
TOS, TAS, TNG, VOY, DS9, ENT, all the movies - even JJTrek.
Tada, the Federation.
Doesn't mean I haven't grown somewhat accustomed to my KDF characters - doesn't mean I haven't - ahem - raged about the inequality between Fed and KDF (even knowing that Star Trek was what it was...Cryptic decided to go two factions, blame them)...but honestly, back when Perpetual was talking about it - I just wanted to explore the Universe in my Starfleet Cruiser. You know, play Star Trek Online.
We've got what we've got, though - but Romulans? Playable Romulans? Never crossed my mind...
...course, you know - a Hirogen Engineer in an Apex Battleship with 4 Port/4 Starboard weapons... /cough
While I'll grant you that JJTrek is Fast Star and Trek Furious... the Federation's still there. We might be following the crew of Beverly Hills 902outer space...but they're still Federation officers. One might no doubt wonder if JJ Abrams was the adopted son of/and raised by Michael Bay and Uwe Boll... but... okay, I think you get the point.
1 the federation seems to promote the lowest ranked person present to command despite him being a sexist , cheating , half trained , gun happy , spotty teen
2 the federations entire fleet gets wiped out in under 3 minutes
3 a "federation officer" fires a crew member out in an escape pod to a death world with no valid reason
4 phasers with recoil
5 Romulans that aren't romulan (they are clearly some sort of Mitchells in space (Eastenders reference non Brits may not get it) Bald Hardmen with ninja skills)
frankly its either the mirror universe or he has NEVER seen an episode of Trek (any of them)
Technically it takes longer then 3 minutes to get to Vulcan, even at maximum warp.
How else are we going to meet Spock?
So, for me, it's far more important than anything else. However, I understand some players will be frustrated because they don't care. But the Romulan faction will likely be released alongside some FE involving the return of Sela, probably Taris, Mol'Rihan, and Tholian reputation. It's not like you will not have content at all, just less.
You forgot:
- Starfleet security is now made up of thugs who start bar fights with minimal provocation.
- Vulcans are now so incredibly stupid and racist that I'm surprised they didn't have a scene where they put on pointed hoods and burned a giant IDIC in front of Amanda's house.
- The only way Uhura can get a post on the Enterprise is by having sex with the first officer. Way to make her more relevant a character for the modern age, JJ.
- Chekov is now a kid who's a supergenius at everything. That's right, they turned Chekov into Wesley.
- Scotty is a scatterbrained moron who's only friend is a space rat.
- Sulu, trained as a pilot all his career and one of the most solid helmsmen and captains in the entire Trek continuity, doesn't know the Enterprise has a handbrake.
He sure acts like one.
What, you expect the movie to adhere to canon speeds when it mangles everything else?
I don't know, I think any writer worth a damn could come up with a way that doesn't involve young Spock committing attempted murder.
The Vulcans seemed fairly racist in Enterprise, and lets not forget that young Vulcans have not learned to master their emotions entirely.
Technically Spock did not want her on the Enterprise, which is why she was assigned another ship; but she played the girlfriend card.
Minus using a TRIBBLE actor to play spock. And I don't say that as a hater it's just his feminism is so obvious he ruins the coldness and masculinity of the spock character.
He is too soft.
Just like leonard is too old now to do the iconic facial expressions that build the character.
Come to think of it, I didn't connect with any of the characters, liked the story lmao.
Well the usage of extra lights hitting the camera here and there was okay, that I would have kept but pretty much everything else I'd have redone.
ANYWAY, playing the romulan faction for me depends a lot the story and of course the end ships. And maybe a little surprisingly the romulan outfits. If they are worse off than klings that might be a game breaker for me.
I can only respond with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
Star Trek. Enlightened future of humanity. Peaceful explorers? Ring any bells? No?
Which was stupid too. So stupid that they had an entire arc in season 4 to explain why the Vulcans are being buttheads and fixing them.
I'm not even talking about the kids (who's taunts from TOS have now been upgraded to bullying and shoving. Most illogical), I'm talking about the idiot on the Vulcan science panel thing openly insulting Spock's mother. To his face.
Because he didn't want it to look like he was giving prime posts to his girlfriend.. even though that's what he ends up doing.
So again, Uhura has no relevancy aside from being Spock's bit on the side. GG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyH760MV3Yg
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ps. I assume you loved the movie and also watched all episodes of heroes
I look forward to creating a Romulan when it releases. Got some idea what I want to create. So only time will tell. Still time to think on what to do.
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To a completely logical being discussing a parents' shortcoming is not racist. I thought that was the most Vulcan scene in the movie - as clearly Spock has emotional control issues.
No. He did not want the emotional distraction for them both, which is why she was given another ship. And she didn't get a prime post on the Enterprise even after she played the gf card. She was relegated to the hallway com systems. She earned her spot on the bridge through her own skill and moxy.
It's Phlox. He's basically Dr. Mengele with Neelix's face. Ghandi would attack him in a bar.
Seriously though, that's in the past. Also it's Enterprise. You can't really defend garbage with TRIBBLE/
To assume one has a shortcoming based on being of mixed race despite adhering to your society's teachings is illogical.
Well since you like bringing up Enterprise so much, so did Soval.
What skill was that? The ability to follow Kirk while he acts insane? The ability to "comfort" Spock?
and yet he is one
he has visible zits
i was refering to after arrival
several ways
Uhura could have a LINE thats not about flirting "Captain im detecting A distress signal and a vulcan life sign "
He could be beamed into space in a suit and rescued
or hell maybe we could just not have him at all
As to fights in naval bars
I have broken a couple up and its usually Junior officers doing the fighting (often pilots)
And let's remember how the crew of the Enterprise treated Spock when they learned that Romulans looked like Vulcans in TOS. Racism never really dies.
Not at all. It is like talking about the fact that red-headed people's skin is more sensitive to sunlight. It's just part of genetics.
You do understand that the foundation of Star Trek is one of loyalty and friendship, right? Spock snapped out of Pon Farr when he the had killed Kirk. Bones coming out of retirement because his Kirk asked him to. Spock giving up the kolinahr because of friendship. Kirk and his crews sacrificed everything to save McCoy and Spock's katra.
You forget that Uhura has just spent 4 years dealing with Kirk on an almost daily basis in the Academy. It might be 3 minutes in the movie but it's 4 years in continuity. They're friends, even if not close friends.
I've wanted them since day one. So yes, I really want them bad.
That part was a joke.
That guy was one TRIBBLE who was never seen again, so he never really amounted to anything.
The occasional bad apple vs. a whole team of Starfleet security who engage in violent fights against their own kind for no reason.
Except that since Spock passed is exams or whatever he needed to get into the science academy with flying colours, the guy has no reason to point out these shortcomings and certainly no reason to taunt him over it. Especially since his father, a respected member of Vulcan society is RIGHT THERE.
So this guy is insulting the mother of an applicant, and insulting the wife of a colleague. There is no way that this is remotely logical.
So?
Yeah she's spent 4 years dealing with an immature, unworthy TRIBBLE with the social manners of a mountain goat. I wouldn't call that friendship.
he sleeps around
he cheats on tests
he is therefore unfit to command a shuttlepod
As to being 50 and still getting spots have you considered growing a beard ??
A Face with a beard becomes less prone to spots and blemished even after its removed
back to trek
Archer is a holodeck character and thus extremely soft canon
ditto his pet blowfish spunky/phlox
anything from enterprise can be considered soft canon thanks to that nice commander riker
And when I see statements like that I know who I no longer need to take seriously.
Shatners kirk was an ENSIGN when he had spots
he did not command anything
and interestingly did not cheat the same way (seduction and corruption of impressionable women)
holodeck programs are NOT hard canon (otherwise captain proton is canon)
and as the final episode revealed it was a reg barclay holonovel
none of its actually very solid is it
it was a recreation of a real, historical event, much like all the different recreations of famous earth battles o'brien and bashir often participated in throughout DS9
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
As an Ensign he was an officer and certainly did command crewmen under his rank.
We have absolutely no idea how Shatner's Kirk got access to the computers to reprogram the test. Knowing Kirk seduction probably had something to do with it, though.
The holodeck makes assumptions based on actual events. Every moment of the crew's life is not recorded. The Starfleet records tell people that Archer and his crew did X on Stardate Y. It does not tell us what each crew member was talking about, who they were dating, or what they were eating during those events. The holodeck makes up all the details which have nothing to do with the actual records. This is why Leah Brahms was so different in the holodeck simulation Geordi ran than in real life.
What the crew were saying to Chef is largely fabricated - unless someone put said conversation in an official record. The fact that the NX existed or that Tripp died during a specific mission is fact.
lolololol
Looks like Kirk was not the only one sleeping while he was suposed to do sth. else.
Enterprise is as canon as it gets. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it any less canon.
FYI, only the final episode of ENT is portrayed as a holodeck program and I'm sure that anyone who paid attention while watching the show can remember that in that final episode Riker played some of the characters on board the Enterprise, like the chef for example. If it was a holodeck program, we'd see Riker, Troy, Barclay, Picard or anyone else from the TNG cast for that matter in every episode of ENT. Therefore, your logic is faulty.
With that said, having only KDF as an alt faction really helped me to appreciate the Klingons much more than I ever did. And much respect to the people in the mostly "PvP faction" who tend to not retreat or leave teammates behind as much as Fed players do.
:rolleyes:
T'Pring and Captain Solok come to mind...