I wanted to play Romulan when this game came out, and quit STO for awhile because of it. So yes having Romulans playable is more important. Other Star Trek games let you play as different factions like Armada or SFC3 why not STO.
This is turning into "Romulan Realms", just need a strategy map, and some armies to besiege fortified Starbases, and maybe some arena duels in-between the real fighting, to show off the champions. And possibly some sequence rescuing damsels (with or without long hair) from the other evil domains. The idea is not without merit... Let's see some more sub-factions! :P
Again, I will take you back to the Captain Marvel example. Marvel cannot stop DC from using Captain Marvel in their comics because that character does not resemble Marvel's character of the same name, even though they are both superheroes.
Btw, it's NOT short. Hehee... just goes to show you how much room there really is to have the same name but a different enough char to NOT be a copyright violation.
I've been wanting the Romulus faction since launch their ships and personality intrigued me much more then Klingon. While Klingon are mostly hit and miss for me when it comes to interest.
Yes, the RSE will be there, as an antagonistic NPC faction, just like it was before. We will be getting a replacement faction that acts and looks nothing like it.
Just as a point to make.... I've been following the Romulan news as much as anybody and we don't really KNOW what they're going to do with the Romulan faction. All we know is that currently there is a hippy commune of Romulans that makes up a large portion of end game, and that they're bringing back Denise Crosby to do some voice acting for the next script.
They could be bringing the RSE in as a fully playable faction with tri-directional PVP and the explanation that they are very much at war with both the KDF and Federation. In fact, it would make end game quite a bit easier to program that way because then Romulans could, paradoxically, do the Romulan Republic reputation grind as a way to vie for influence with the RR splinter group.
Just as a point to make.... I've been following the Romulan news as much as anybody and we don't really KNOW what they're going to do with the Romulan faction. All we know is that currently there is a hippy commune of Romulans that makes up a large portion of end game, and that they're bringing back Denise Crosby to do some voice acting for the next script.
They could be bringing the RSE in as a fully playable faction with tri-directional PVP and the explanation that they are very much at war with both the KDF and Federation. In fact, it would make end game quite a bit easier to program that way because then Romulans could, paradoxically, do the Romulan Republic reputation grind as a way to vie for influence with the RR splinter group.
Of course. There was no way of knowing if Romulans would make the cut at all, but I think there was an implicit expectation that if it did arrive, it would come in the form of the RSE.
To be accurate, we do currently know quite a bit more about the Rommie faction than what you seem to be thinking. The Faction is not D'Tan's, and it is not the Romulan Space Empire. The Romulan Faction is a group of freedom fighters that work towards, and from what we have been told so far, succeed in overthrowing the Romulan Space Empire and establish themselves as the 'Romulan Republic' They use the prefix 'RRW' isntead of the IRW prefix the RSE uses, and their uniforms are drastically different. Judging by the how the teaser page describes this faction, as opposing oppression, fighting for freedom, etc, combiend with the organizational and clothing changes-it seems likely that they are substantially different in many ways, many of which are not insignificant, from the RSE.
The Romulan reputation system will likely remain largely unchanged for the Romulan faction, since the Romulan Republic seems like the sorts who would be much more likely to deal with D'Tan without ulterior motives, much less antagonistic ones. It is possible in my view that the Romulan faction was sanitized in order to faucilitate this interaction and to better fit the Romulans into the cross-faction episodes, which is a shame IMO because it looks like the Romulans will be losing a lot of their 'romulan-ness' to achieve that goal.
He also hated the concept of Star Trek VI which was (arguably) one of the best Trek movies.
Where is your god now?
:rolleyes:
My favorite Trek movie I really liked where they were going with the more militarized Starfleet and their bright red uniforms. It feeled a lot more believable to me than TOS or a lot of the TNG stuff (Holodecks children on warships, that sort of thing)
I was here on these forums sense 2008, and played at launch. I can tell you one thing I wanted to play as was the Romulans. At launch I was surprised to find I was not alone in this. Past star trek history answers the ops question. The first new star trek movie after nemesis, that was made, was a complete failure. Why was this? Simply put they destroyed Romulus. In doing so crippled star trek. The Romulans, despite all the episodes, are the number one mystery in the star trek universe.
Off topic note, I hope they make the npc version of D'deridex class warbird a monster again. At launch these ships were difficult to fight against. You had to know your stuff or die. This was of course when all Romulan npcs used plasma grenades and disruptors. Also when Plasma weaponry was extremely deadly in the right hands.
Children on warships? Which episode of TNG was that in?
It's not uncommon for The spouse or children of Starfleet personnel to accompany them in TNG era. Benjamin Sisko's wife and child were on board the Saratoga during the battle of Wolf 359. let that sink in for a moment . And that's why Ben was a widower. It was a pretty silly idea that (if memory serves) was pushed through by Gene.
As for Holodecks, some people might not realize this, but the *deck* in holodeck is significant. In addition to the smaller holosuites dotted throughout the ship, there is an entire deck devoted to holo-simulations.
Sometimes TNG starfleet almost felt like they designed their ships to be half luxury liners, half battleships, which IMO was really, really silly.
It's not uncommon for The spouse or children of Starfleet personnel to accompany them in TNG era. Benjamin Sisko's wife and child were on board the Saratoga during the battle of Wolf 359. let that sink in for a moment . And that's why Ben was a widower. It was a pretty silly idea that (if memory serves) was pushed through by Gene.
"I'm pretty sure that the number one mystery was either the preservers or the iconians"
Not to me at least. There is allot of unanswered questions about the Romulans. For example why did they travel so far from vulcan. I mean if they were so emotional, they had to have had plans to retake vulcan some day. Another one is how did they keep up with the Federation tech wise, after being secluded from everyone and everything for so long up to TNG. The D'deridex warbird was quite a feet of engineering. Most tech advancements happen in war. The federation and Klingons were at each others throats for a long time. While the Romulans were secluded for the most part. From the spock episodes in tng, with him on Romulus. The Romulan senate seems to be somewhat democratic, but at the same time the leaders seem to require military support to maintain their positions. Their government was never clearly outlined. Another one is why do they try to act so in control, and free of emotion, when dealing with other factions. At the same time left vulcan to seek out and use those very same emotions and passions. If you look closely at the Romulans and the star trek episodes, they present more questions then answers. Heres another one, why even make a temporary peace treaty with the Federation. With their cloaking tech they could have easily wiped out the Federation. In every official star trek timeline, every time the Federation takes on a Enemy in all out war with cloaking tech, they usually loose badly.
And now for the big kicker to all of this...IF Cryptic can work up the Romulan faction with leveling content from 1-50 AND add in additional leveling content for KDF to fill in the 1-20 levels and while doing all of this manage to add in new features, new rep system, new FEs AND new STFs with the majority of the work being done in 6 months, just imagine how much content they can generate for the "seasons" while moving the game forward.
Herein lies the problem. After 3 years the Klingons are a pale shadow of the Feds, both in content and the player base resulting from that lack of content. On the Fed side there are gaping holes in the content promised at launch and each season has brought more features and content that is only partially realized. Then there are the significant bugs and issues that have never been addressed.
Given all this, does anyone really expect a new faction to come close to the expectations mentioned above? And why would anyone want them putting resources into new things when they are so desperately needed elsewhere?
wanted a proper stand alone romulan faction since beta. oh and yes romulans would have been a 1st choice faction if they was there at launch.
I was happy supporting this game thru the bad times and massive content draughts in the hope of it eventually happening 1 day.
the what now seems like a very misleading build up of 'march beanth the raptors wings' and the site that says you can play a romulan 3rd faction sounded like it was everything I wanted.
then you get told you actually have to pick a side in the fed/kdf war and your 'faction' gets ripped to bits.
which don't sound like a 3rd faction at all with it's own independence.
dstahl said this opens the door for making it feel more like the star trek universe. the reality is your making it feel less and less like it all the time.
I am was happy when we got news about romulan faction ,i am keep money for z,but after FAQ's I am disappointed.:(
I can wait for real romulan faction more:D, but if they add that TRIBBLE in May i am done with this game,just no reason for keep STO on my HDD.
Romulan Republic? alliance with feds or klings......WTF!!!!!!:mad:
LoR should to be about rebuilding Romulan Star Empire,liberating Donatra from borg collective ,confronting Sela & madness of Tal Shiar,claiming Vulcan as new romulan homeworld...
This. I would have played Romulan from Day One, it they were available.
And I mean Romulan, not "some pointy ears guys like Vulcan that work for KDF and Feds".
You'll be waiting a long time then. What's coming in May is what they're doing. Too late now.
yeah you are right,but I am optimistic,still hope they ll delayed that epic fail(yes I am romulan fanboy)
LoR should to be about rebuilding Romulan Star Empire,liberating Donatra from borg collective ,confronting Sela & madness of Tal Shiar,claiming Vulcan as new romulan homeworld...
"I regret that we meet in this way. You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend." -Romulan Commander to Kirk, Balance of Terror
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" Counselor Deanna Troi: [as Major Rakal] We ensure the loyalty of the people. Do you believe the Empire would be better off without our protection?
Commander Toreth: Protection? From what? How was the Empire threatened by the words of an old man? A devoted citizen who merely tried to speak his mind? How did the Tal Shiar protect the Empire by dragging him, my father, out of his home in the middle of the night?
Counselor Deanna Troi: [as Major Rakal] Clearly your father was a traitor.
Commander Toreth: No. He was just an idealistic old man. I never saw him again."
-Face of the Enemy
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"Admiral Jarok: There comes a time in a man's life that you cannot know. When he looks down at the first smile of his baby girl and realizes, he must change the world for her - for all children. It is for her that I am here. Not to destroy the Romulan Empire, but to save it. For months, I tried desperately to persuade the High Command that another war would destroy the Empire. They got tired of my arguments. Finally, I was censured, sent off to command some distant sector. *This* was my only recourse. I... will never see my child smile again. She will grow up believing that her father is a traitor. But she will grow up - if you act, Picard. If we stop this war before it begins."
-The Defector
And that's where the IP really fell off the wagon. It became too idealized, in an age where realism was wanted. TNG was fine, but by Voyager it was growing out of touch, and by Enterprise the IP had gone the opposite direction of culture at large.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
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This is turning into "Romulan Realms", just need a strategy map, and some armies to besiege fortified Starbases, and maybe some arena duels in-between the real fighting, to show off the champions. And possibly some sequence rescuing damsels (with or without long hair) from the other evil domains. The idea is not without merit... Let's see some more sub-factions! :P
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Btw, it's NOT short.
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Just as a point to make.... I've been following the Romulan news as much as anybody and we don't really KNOW what they're going to do with the Romulan faction. All we know is that currently there is a hippy commune of Romulans that makes up a large portion of end game, and that they're bringing back Denise Crosby to do some voice acting for the next script.
They could be bringing the RSE in as a fully playable faction with tri-directional PVP and the explanation that they are very much at war with both the KDF and Federation. In fact, it would make end game quite a bit easier to program that way because then Romulans could, paradoxically, do the Romulan Republic reputation grind as a way to vie for influence with the RR splinter group.
Where is your god now?
:rolleyes:
To be accurate, we do currently know quite a bit more about the Rommie faction than what you seem to be thinking. The Faction is not D'Tan's, and it is not the Romulan Space Empire. The Romulan Faction is a group of freedom fighters that work towards, and from what we have been told so far, succeed in overthrowing the Romulan Space Empire and establish themselves as the 'Romulan Republic' They use the prefix 'RRW' isntead of the IRW prefix the RSE uses, and their uniforms are drastically different. Judging by the how the teaser page describes this faction, as opposing oppression, fighting for freedom, etc, combiend with the organizational and clothing changes-it seems likely that they are substantially different in many ways, many of which are not insignificant, from the RSE.
The Romulan reputation system will likely remain largely unchanged for the Romulan faction, since the Romulan Republic seems like the sorts who would be much more likely to deal with D'Tan without ulterior motives, much less antagonistic ones. It is possible in my view that the Romulan faction was sanitized in order to faucilitate this interaction and to better fit the Romulans into the cross-faction episodes, which is a shame IMO because it looks like the Romulans will be losing a lot of their 'romulan-ness' to achieve that goal.
My favorite Trek movie
He's dead Jim.
Off topic note, I hope they make the npc version of D'deridex class warbird a monster again. At launch these ships were difficult to fight against. You had to know your stuff or die. This was of course when all Romulan npcs used plasma grenades and disruptors. Also when Plasma weaponry was extremely deadly in the right hands.
I think he for whatever reason believes the enterprise d to be a warship.
As for Holodecks, some people might not realize this, but the *deck* in holodeck is significant. In addition to the smaller holosuites dotted throughout the ship, there is an entire deck devoted to holo-simulations.
Sometimes TNG starfleet almost felt like they designed their ships to be half luxury liners, half battleships, which IMO was really, really silly.
Still love TNG though...
So what warships are you referring to?
In the TOS-movie era however, which I prefer slightly, that's a different matter.
Not to me at least. There is allot of unanswered questions about the Romulans. For example why did they travel so far from vulcan. I mean if they were so emotional, they had to have had plans to retake vulcan some day. Another one is how did they keep up with the Federation tech wise, after being secluded from everyone and everything for so long up to TNG. The D'deridex warbird was quite a feet of engineering. Most tech advancements happen in war. The federation and Klingons were at each others throats for a long time. While the Romulans were secluded for the most part. From the spock episodes in tng, with him on Romulus. The Romulan senate seems to be somewhat democratic, but at the same time the leaders seem to require military support to maintain their positions. Their government was never clearly outlined. Another one is why do they try to act so in control, and free of emotion, when dealing with other factions. At the same time left vulcan to seek out and use those very same emotions and passions. If you look closely at the Romulans and the star trek episodes, they present more questions then answers. Heres another one, why even make a temporary peace treaty with the Federation. With their cloaking tech they could have easily wiped out the Federation. In every official star trek timeline, every time the Federation takes on a Enemy in all out war with cloaking tech, they usually loose badly.
He transformed to become one of the R (thats one up from the Q)
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Herein lies the problem. After 3 years the Klingons are a pale shadow of the Feds, both in content and the player base resulting from that lack of content. On the Fed side there are gaping holes in the content promised at launch and each season has brought more features and content that is only partially realized. Then there are the significant bugs and issues that have never been addressed.
Given all this, does anyone really expect a new faction to come close to the expectations mentioned above? And why would anyone want them putting resources into new things when they are so desperately needed elsewhere?
I was happy supporting this game thru the bad times and massive content draughts in the hope of it eventually happening 1 day.
the what now seems like a very misleading build up of 'march beanth the raptors wings' and the site that says you can play a romulan 3rd faction sounded like it was everything I wanted.
then you get told you actually have to pick a side in the fed/kdf war and your 'faction' gets ripped to bits.
which don't sound like a 3rd faction at all with it's own independence.
dstahl said this opens the door for making it feel more like the star trek universe. the reality is your making it feel less and less like it all the time.
I am was happy when we got news about romulan faction ,i am keep money for z,but after FAQ's I am disappointed.:(
I can wait for real romulan faction more:D, but if they add that TRIBBLE in May i am done with this game,just no reason for keep STO on my HDD.
Romulan Republic? alliance with feds or klings......WTF!!!!!!:mad:
And I mean Romulan, not "some pointy ears guys like Vulcan that work for KDF and Feds".
yeah you are right,but I am optimistic,still hope they ll delayed that epic fail(yes I am romulan fanboy)