Thanks for sharing your build. I was just attempting to build a similar build on the Galaxy retrofit as well. I've been trying to decide between a regular very rare Plasma beam array XII versus Romulan beam array Mk XII. I know that one of the bonus is used for the disruptor proc on the Romulan beam array....so is the disruptor proc bonus worth it over say...an additional ACC bonus?
I'll need to talk to you and see what wonders you can do with my regent sir. I have a fleet Galaxy myself and may try this out, though I don't have all the lobi consoles you possess.
Are you taking advantage of the plasma proc in your setup? Since I'm using Anti Protons.
I'll need to talk to you and see what wonders you can do with my regent sir. I have a fleet Galaxy myself and may try this out, though I don't have all the lobi consoles you possess.
Are you taking advantage of the plasma proc in your setup? Since I'm using Anti Protons.
he is taking advantage of the disruptor proc, and the bonuses that you can just stack for plasma. the plasma proc itself, is not great by anymeans
he is taking advantage of the disruptor proc, and the bonuses that you can just stack for plasma. the plasma proc itself, is not great by anymeans
I don't know what your definition of great is, but if he's ripping things apart. That's great for me. I guess we have a different prespective of things.
I won't over analyze things, if it's working, then I like it.
I don't know what your definition of great is, but if he's ripping things apart. That's great for me. I guess we have a different prespective of things.
I won't over analyze things, if it's working, then I like it.
plasma proc is pretty much worthless. in my parses I get around 100 dps for that. he uses plasma, because he can get away with one weapon not drawing any weapon power, while that same weapon grants 7% dmg bonus to the rest of them, if they are plasma. plus he boosts plasma through the sci consoles even more. and above all that, the romulan beams are giving disruptor procs (which makes this such an obvious choice)
So how is that a bad thing? Results, he's killing stuff. The kind of result I'm looking for. It's working - that's all I care about. Not some parser and more facts which say how bad it is - when it is actually working.
That's my way of seeing things. I'm a simple man, I won't go into all the other complex details when I can -see- it's working.
concerning your post, i was scrolling through the detailed list you provided and i saw those max hits of 6k. Now a 6k hit is really something impressive and i'm barely able to reproduce such a hit even with a DHC without any heavy debuffing and/or a tac captain. So my guess is that only multiple stacks of sensor scan, FomM, etc... can produce such a hit with a beam.
I'm completely buffeled by this numbers, since without major debuffing from multiple players that seems impossible to reproduce with beams. First i thought it was the hit from the 3 part set bonus, but you have only 2 parts...so it can't be that.
personally i think the error of the parser lies with the beam array dmg and the fire at will 1 dmg...i think they are counted sepperately even while fire at will is active the parser (or combat log) counts them as sepperate hits when in fact it is only one hit...so take away a good portion of the beam array dmg (depending on the uptime of fire at will) and you have DPS numbers corresponding to a sci vessel with 6 beams that are kept above 110 weaponenergy all the time.
also the elite scorpion alone do 2300 if i check your list correctly (all plasma torpedo dmg is coming from the scorpion fighters i asume)
the dps we have here is then also distorted in the same fashion, seems to me the parser (or combat log) can't handle fire at will accordingly. That is ofcourse only my opinion based upon my experiance that 10k dps is rather something very rare and requires a multitude of targets over the course of the entire battle + some heavy debuffing.
I hit 6-10K hits with beams all the time in both my science ships (with Sci Captain) and my healboat Ambassador (with Eng Captain) ... TIMING is a big part of getting good damage out of any ship. There is no reason at all that a well built cruiser can't do good DPS in PvE. Even in PvP the GOOD cruiser pilots are able to deliver DPS if that is the goal they choose.
To the OP, kudos for trying to prove the point, unfortuneatly, the narrow minded will always answer with scepticism rather than ... perhaps ... TRY his build for yourself and see what happens?
So how is that a bad thing? Results, he's killing stuff. The kind of result I'm looking for. It's working - that's all I care about. Not some parser and more facts which say how bad it is - when it is actually working.
That's my way of seeing things. I'm a simple man, I won't go into all the other complex details when I can -see- it's working.
I did not offend his build (if you look closely, I just uploaded a similar build myself a few days ago). I just say, that the plasma proc is TRIBBLE. it was TRIBBLE for a long time. going plasma is not aboud the proc, but about using what is given with S7 to overcome that disadvantage
I totally agree. I dont use romulan beams because they do better damage. They dont.. On their own.
However this build has alot of synergy to build up more and more bonus to plasma damage that you just cant get out of other damage types right now. My tac, and sci consoles all boost my damage as well as my weapon set giving me another bonus.
On top of that Im running this ship with 2 copies of emergency to weapons 3 which is a massive boost to beam damage.
I run a similar setup to this on my fleet tor'kaht and pull 12-15k in infected.
Thats partly due to the leech console and party due to it having 2 more tac consoles.
It doesnt really matter what I say. You guys will just discount it. The fact is its a high damage galaxy. I posted it so people that want to fly cruisers can see what Ive done and use it or even part of the build for themselves. If all anyone can do around here is discount everything people do then whats the point of even trying.
Cruisers suck. beams suck. tacs are over powered. Sci sucks. eng sucks... whats the difference? Thats all I ever see around here. When I try and prove anything different you guys just TRIBBLE all over everything I try to do to show what can be done in supposedly useless ships.
I can post 100 great builds that rip through pve content like a hot knife through butter but if I dont do it with the exact parameters that you guys set out then I guess my numbers are meaningless.
I mean really.. In a pug Im supposed to tell everyone to not use beta or tac fleet. And those pug people that dont know me from a hole in the ground are going to listen?
No matter whats posted theres always a group of you that will find a way to make it sound like my accomplishments mean nothing. I posted a video showing me solo infected elite and I get comments like well do that in a fed cruiser and it will be impressive. I SOLOED A 5 MAN ELITE MISSION! Show me anyone else thats done that with the video proof since thats the only thing that seems to matter around here.
I applaud your efforts but some of the cruiser complainers will NEVER be satisfied unless cruisers are doing top dps while being the unkillable bricks, ideally without requiring much movement so its really easy to play. Basically they will never be happy with the current implementation of crusiers.
There are some people here that have stated they cannot be happy until cruisers are equally as good as escorts in killing things in all situations. Of course when we get to talking about what they'd be willing to give up to be as good they usually start spouting off things about "lore", "bigger antimatter reactors", and "lots of extra space for extra weapons and shields".
Others are far more reasonable and merely ask for some improvements. Namely so they don't feel as gimped with their non optimized playstyle. For their sake I think cruisers could use a turn buff, say +1 or +2, as well as upping Beam Array DPS by...5% or so.
OP I find your build to be... interesting. I do like the plasma focus, it's very difficult to achieve it that completely. However, I will point out that not many will be able to replicate this build due to the specialty consoles you have in your engineering area, i.e. the rule 62, tachyokinetic, etc.
As for weaknesses, the only weakness I see in your build is you suffer the major drawback all DPS cruisers do, which is you must sacrifice survivability in order to deal that level of damage, but it seems you've compensated for that pretty well with your science consoles and abilities.
But other than that, (this coming from one of your narrow-minded nay-sayers), I see no reason as to why this build wouldn't be able to hit respectable DPS values. It also is a very interesting build to say the least... but my last question would be why the full reman set? Barring that, (and not that this counts for anything), nicely done.
Note: The plasma proc alone is trash. But combine it with the disruptor proc, and all of a sudden it's quite powerful.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I like the set for defensive reasons. The maco shield with omega deflector and engine are a nice way to go for more offense and still remain tanky though
I like the set for defensive reasons. The maco shield with omega deflector and engine are a nice way to go for more offense and still remain tanky though
I think an interesting alternative would be the full Borg set. Yes, you sacrifice some initial survivability, but it would seem the 2 and 3 piece procs would help greatly. In addition, you have the shield, which despite it's low initial capacity would benefit almost ridiculously from your field emitters + EPtS and TSS, putting it's regeneration rate at obscene levels. Also it would give you the Assimilated tractor beam which despite it's rather long CD is quite nasty.
Another thing I would see as interesting would be to throw in the KCB. Would be a rather nasty little addition, AND you get the 2 piece bonus from having the assimilated module. But I don't know if sacrificing one of your plasma BAs would be worth it.
Just a thought.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
i had the same thought about the kcb. Not sure about the regen on the borg shield but its certainly worth a try. Ill give it a shot in a few stfs or something
To the OP, kudos for trying to prove the point, unfortuneatly, the narrow minded will always answer with scepticism rather than ... perhaps ... TRY his build for yourself and see what happens?
Anyone can post a thread claiming whatever amount of dps they want. I know myself personally, though I can't speak for the other "narrow minded" skeptics, need a little more proof. If the OP has managed to get that much dps in the Galaxy props to him, that's great and I'm very happy that he has managed to find a build that works good on the Galaxy since it's probably the most gimped of all the fed cruisers. This build isn't really anything new though. There are some members in my own fleet that run this on their cruisers (Though not on the Galaxy). I've just never seen them get 10k when I run my dps tracker. I've seen close, in the 8-9k range, but never over 10k and they have more tac consoles to work with (hence the skepticism). The only reason I would rather get additional proof then simply "try it myself" as some have suggested is that this is an expensive prospect.
Edit: I just equipped my Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit with something close to this (decided to waste all the dilithium and FC just cause at the moment there isn't really anything I was working for anyway. The damage does seem impressive. I'll turn on my dps calculator and see what I'm getting.
So run infected with me then. Thats the bench mark I use since its the most constant combat against mobs with high hit points.
Theres no point in testing in sector explore missions since everything evaporates in a second or two and spend 3/4 of my time flying from one group of mobs to the next.
KASE pug run with Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit. My build was slightly modified. I had the borg kinetic beam and I was using Torpedo: High Yield 1, and Attack Pattern: Beta..no fire at will, which in KAS doesn't really matter since there isn't much spam in there.
Still not hitting 10k. I made it a point in the ISE run to make sure I had very little dead time and that I was always firing on something. It should be noted that my ship also has an extra tac console over the Galaxy. The only real difference is I have the borg cutting beam, I'm not certain if replacing that with a plasma beam will add another 2k to my dps.
KASE pug run with Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit. My build was slightly modified. I had the borg kinetic beam and I was using Torpedo: High Yield 1, and Attack Pattern: Beta..no fire at will, which in KAS doesn't really matter since there isn't much spam in there.
There is a huge misconception about fire at will. Yes it works great against multiple targets to pepper them all with beam fire.
I use it 100% of the time that I can. I have it on a macro tied to my space bar so its up as much as possible.
The power works on top of your normal beam attacks. So if you target the cube in infected you will continue to fire at the cube as normal. however you will also gain many more beam attacks against your primary target and anything else in range of your beams.
Against a single target you still gain attacks on top of your auto fire. Against the tac cube in kase at the beginning I regularly can hit for 15-20k with a full alpha strike because of how many times my beams hammer it with FAW.
Also to compare your damage to mine with torp high yield and beta is a moot point. Also you were in a different instance with a skill and boff layout undisclosed. I dont have a single point spent in torps since 90% of the time im broadsiding and my torps wont fire anyhow. I use a single torp for the set bonus and to keep my power levels from dropping too low from using another beam.
There is a huge misconception about fire at will. Yes it works great against multiple targets to pepper them all with beam fire.
I use it 100% of the time that I can. I have it on a macro tied to my space bar so its up as much as possible.
The power works on top of your normal beam attacks. So if you target the cube in infected you will continue to fire at the cube as normal. however you will also gain many more beam attacks against your primary target and anything else in range of your beams.
Against a single target you still gain attacks on top of your auto fire. Against the tac cube in kase at the beginning I regularly can hit for 15-20k with a full alpha strike because of how many times my beams hammer it with FAW.
Also to compare your damage to mine with torp high yield and beta is a moot point. Also you were in a different instance with a skill and boff layout undisclosed. I dont have a single point spent in torps since 90% of the time im broadsiding and my torps wont fire anyhow. I use a single torp for the set bonus and to keep my power levels from dropping too low from using another beam.
I'm specked into both energy and torpedoes. I don't try and move around to fire my torpdoes, but when the ship is in the middle of getting into position for a broadside I have it on autofire so they just launch automatically. I will run a test using Beam: Fire at Will 1, instead of Torpedo: High Yield 1. I don't know if that will account for a 2k dps difference. If this is the best damage I can expect it's pretty comparable to the damage I get on my Excelsior using Fleet Phasers. I also hit around 8k dps with that, but I also have 4 tac consoles so I imagine this plasma set up on the Excelsior would bump my damage up a little bit, but I dunno about 10k. Of course player skill comes into play and I may just not be as good as you lol.
Alright another KASE pug run. I replaced Torpedo: High Yield 1 with Beam: Fire at Will 1 and I also replaced the Borg Kinetic Cutting Beam with another Plasma Beam Array.
Impressive numbers my friend, the sort I can only dream of.....
You and a couple of others on this thread really seem to know what your on about, so maybe you can help me out.
I dont have access to fleet gear, and don't play the boxes, so top end gear is not an option for me( esp as I am now pretty much soloing our Star Base). So what I am after are builds using 'regular' gear avaliable on the exchange, or via missions.
My chars are as follows:
Eng in a Vesta, running AP beams.
Sci in an Excel,(probably a very bad idea?), running polarized diruptor beams and Quantums.
Eng in an Ambassador, running Phaser beams and Quantums.
The best I have been able to manage is 2750dps according to ACT, and that was with the Vesta in Infected.
I am not after the huge numbers being disscussed here, but surely I can do better than this, even with 'inferior' gear.
Won't bother putting my boffs, skills etc down as am willing to change it all if required.
Feel free to PM me, with any ideas, as I don't want to fill your thread with further, 'not really relavent' posts.:o
Thanks in advance for any forthcoming advice.
Something doesn't add up here. Their are some things that could be responsible for this difference such as damage that is instantly healed, shield damage being considered damage, or there is the most likely possibility that FaW is not being parsed properly.
Not saying the build is bad. Saying the numbers don't add up.
I'm in Vex's fleet and run with him all the time, so I'll offer my anecdotal support to his numbers/claims/ builds... He is pulling those numbers. We have multiple Engineers (myself included) running similar build concepts averaging 6-8kdps... and tacs higher up.
The keys to beams are power and accuracy. There is a weapon's soft cap of of about 160.. the more power you pump into the beams the more damage you do. Accuracy in beams is important because of the game mechanics a miss on a beam is exponentially more a drop in dps than cannons.
And to the comment up above. TSS2 HE1 Auxtsif3, Et1 is plenty good enough for survivability.
well for one thing the parser logs all damage. not just hull damage. so sure the transformers for short periods soak up 20% of my fire at will. but on top of that theres shields to deal with. shields dont just shut off cause you show up. mobs now rebalance their shields so you cant just hammer one facing down anymore.
well for one thing the parser logs all damage. not just hull damage. so sure the transformers for short periods soak up 20% of my fire at will. but on top of that theres shields to deal with. shields dont just shut off cause you show up. mobs now rebalance their shields so you cant just hammer one facing down anymore.
Considering nearly half of the targets in ISE have no shields and that shield values are much lower than hull values I find it difficult to believe 5 mil damage was shield.
You seriously have that much faith in the parser that you don't think there is even a possibility that it is not working correctly?
ok put it this way... am I throwing some damage away with faw? sure a little. But the damage Im putting on my targets more than makes up for it. Is the parser maybe not recording things 100% correctly... sure.
Am I getting through stfs with pugs in record time.. YES. Do I think this is a solid build that rips anything pve can throw at me apart. YES.
Have you personally run with me to see that im full of it. NO. Have I made the offer in this thread 3 times now to run with anyone that doubts this ship. YES
ok put it this way... am I throwing some damage away with faw? sure a little. But the damage Im putting on my targets more than makes up for it. Is the parser maybe not recording things 100% correctly... sure.
Am I getting through stfs with pugs in record time.. YES. Do I think this is a solid build that rips anything pve can throw at me apart. YES.
Have you personally run with me to see that im full of it. NO. Have I made the offer in this thread 3 times now to run with anyone that doubts this ship. YES
Have I once contest that the build was effective or works well in pve? NO
Have I contested the DPS number claim as being perfectly accurate? YES
And if it makes you feel any better I'll run an STF with you if you wish.
*edit*
Did a run. Galaxy performed very well and gotta say pretty darn zippy too for being such a whale!
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Thanks for sharing your build. I was just attempting to build a similar build on the Galaxy retrofit as well. I've been trying to decide between a regular very rare Plasma beam array XII versus Romulan beam array Mk XII. I know that one of the bonus is used for the disruptor proc on the Romulan beam array....so is the disruptor proc bonus worth it over say...an additional ACC bonus?
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
Maybe you chould post some similarly good tactical escort and science vessel builds up too if you want to.
I am sure it would be useful for people wise enough to improve themselves.
Are you taking advantage of the plasma proc in your setup? Since I'm using Anti Protons.
EPG builds / SCI ground enthusiast
he is taking advantage of the disruptor proc, and the bonuses that you can just stack for plasma. the plasma proc itself, is not great by anymeans
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
I don't know what your definition of great is, but if he's ripping things apart. That's great for me. I guess we have a different prespective of things.
I won't over analyze things, if it's working, then I like it.
EPG builds / SCI ground enthusiast
plasma proc is pretty much worthless. in my parses I get around 100 dps for that. he uses plasma, because he can get away with one weapon not drawing any weapon power, while that same weapon grants 7% dmg bonus to the rest of them, if they are plasma. plus he boosts plasma through the sci consoles even more. and above all that, the romulan beams are giving disruptor procs (which makes this such an obvious choice)
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
That's my way of seeing things. I'm a simple man, I won't go into all the other complex details when I can -see- it's working.
EPG builds / SCI ground enthusiast
I hit 6-10K hits with beams all the time in both my science ships (with Sci Captain) and my healboat Ambassador (with Eng Captain) ... TIMING is a big part of getting good damage out of any ship. There is no reason at all that a well built cruiser can't do good DPS in PvE. Even in PvP the GOOD cruiser pilots are able to deliver DPS if that is the goal they choose.
To the OP, kudos for trying to prove the point, unfortuneatly, the narrow minded will always answer with scepticism rather than ... perhaps ... TRY his build for yourself and see what happens?
I did not offend his build (if you look closely, I just uploaded a similar build myself a few days ago). I just say, that the plasma proc is TRIBBLE. it was TRIBBLE for a long time. going plasma is not aboud the proc, but about using what is given with S7 to overcome that disadvantage
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
However this build has alot of synergy to build up more and more bonus to plasma damage that you just cant get out of other damage types right now. My tac, and sci consoles all boost my damage as well as my weapon set giving me another bonus.
On top of that Im running this ship with 2 copies of emergency to weapons 3 which is a massive boost to beam damage.
I run a similar setup to this on my fleet tor'kaht and pull 12-15k in infected.
Thats partly due to the leech console and party due to it having 2 more tac consoles.
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
I applaud your efforts but some of the cruiser complainers will NEVER be satisfied unless cruisers are doing top dps while being the unkillable bricks, ideally without requiring much movement so its really easy to play. Basically they will never be happy with the current implementation of crusiers.
There are some people here that have stated they cannot be happy until cruisers are equally as good as escorts in killing things in all situations. Of course when we get to talking about what they'd be willing to give up to be as good they usually start spouting off things about "lore", "bigger antimatter reactors", and "lots of extra space for extra weapons and shields".
Others are far more reasonable and merely ask for some improvements. Namely so they don't feel as gimped with their non optimized playstyle. For their sake I think cruisers could use a turn buff, say +1 or +2, as well as upping Beam Array DPS by...5% or so.
As for weaknesses, the only weakness I see in your build is you suffer the major drawback all DPS cruisers do, which is you must sacrifice survivability in order to deal that level of damage, but it seems you've compensated for that pretty well with your science consoles and abilities.
But other than that, (this coming from one of your narrow-minded nay-sayers), I see no reason as to why this build wouldn't be able to hit respectable DPS values. It also is a very interesting build to say the least... but my last question would be why the full reman set? Barring that, (and not that this counts for anything), nicely done.
Note: The plasma proc alone is trash. But combine it with the disruptor proc, and all of a sudden it's quite powerful.
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
I think an interesting alternative would be the full Borg set. Yes, you sacrifice some initial survivability, but it would seem the 2 and 3 piece procs would help greatly. In addition, you have the shield, which despite it's low initial capacity would benefit almost ridiculously from your field emitters + EPtS and TSS, putting it's regeneration rate at obscene levels. Also it would give you the Assimilated tractor beam which despite it's rather long CD is quite nasty.
Another thing I would see as interesting would be to throw in the KCB. Would be a rather nasty little addition, AND you get the 2 piece bonus from having the assimilated module. But I don't know if sacrificing one of your plasma BAs would be worth it.
Just a thought.
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
Anyone can post a thread claiming whatever amount of dps they want. I know myself personally, though I can't speak for the other "narrow minded" skeptics, need a little more proof. If the OP has managed to get that much dps in the Galaxy props to him, that's great and I'm very happy that he has managed to find a build that works good on the Galaxy since it's probably the most gimped of all the fed cruisers. This build isn't really anything new though. There are some members in my own fleet that run this on their cruisers (Though not on the Galaxy). I've just never seen them get 10k when I run my dps tracker. I've seen close, in the 8-9k range, but never over 10k and they have more tac consoles to work with (hence the skepticism). The only reason I would rather get additional proof then simply "try it myself" as some have suggested is that this is an expensive prospect.
Edit: I just equipped my Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit with something close to this (decided to waste all the dilithium and FC just cause at the moment there isn't really anything I was working for anyway. The damage does seem impressive. I'll turn on my dps calculator and see what I'm getting.
Theres no point in testing in sector explore missions since everything evaporates in a second or two and spend 3/4 of my time flying from one group of mobs to the next.
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/iphacles/combatlogplasma_zps1e951e55.jpg
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Here's an ISE run.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/iphacles/ISE_zps4fd97199.jpg
Still not hitting 10k. I made it a point in the ISE run to make sure I had very little dead time and that I was always firing on something. It should be noted that my ship also has an extra tac console over the Galaxy. The only real difference is I have the borg cutting beam, I'm not certain if replacing that with a plasma beam will add another 2k to my dps.
There is a huge misconception about fire at will. Yes it works great against multiple targets to pepper them all with beam fire.
I use it 100% of the time that I can. I have it on a macro tied to my space bar so its up as much as possible.
The power works on top of your normal beam attacks. So if you target the cube in infected you will continue to fire at the cube as normal. however you will also gain many more beam attacks against your primary target and anything else in range of your beams.
Against a single target you still gain attacks on top of your auto fire. Against the tac cube in kase at the beginning I regularly can hit for 15-20k with a full alpha strike because of how many times my beams hammer it with FAW.
Also to compare your damage to mine with torp high yield and beta is a moot point. Also you were in a different instance with a skill and boff layout undisclosed. I dont have a single point spent in torps since 90% of the time im broadsiding and my torps wont fire anyhow. I use a single torp for the set bonus and to keep my power levels from dropping too low from using another beam.
[SIGPIC]http://file3.guildlaunch.net/205090/DVhexishensig.jpg[/SIGPIC]
Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
I'm specked into both energy and torpedoes. I don't try and move around to fire my torpdoes, but when the ship is in the middle of getting into position for a broadside I have it on autofire so they just launch automatically. I will run a test using Beam: Fire at Will 1, instead of Torpedo: High Yield 1. I don't know if that will account for a 2k dps difference. If this is the best damage I can expect it's pretty comparable to the damage I get on my Excelsior using Fleet Phasers. I also hit around 8k dps with that, but I also have 4 tac consoles so I imagine this plasma set up on the Excelsior would bump my damage up a little bit, but I dunno about 10k. Of course player skill comes into play and I may just not be as good as you lol.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/iphacles/kase2_zps0e1192f2.jpg
Still not 10k, but this is the highest damage I've ever gotten on any of my cruisers.
You and a couple of others on this thread really seem to know what your on about, so maybe you can help me out.
I dont have access to fleet gear, and don't play the boxes, so top end gear is not an option for me( esp as I am now pretty much soloing our Star Base). So what I am after are builds using 'regular' gear avaliable on the exchange, or via missions.
My chars are as follows:
Eng in a Vesta, running AP beams.
Sci in an Excel,(probably a very bad idea?), running polarized diruptor beams and Quantums.
Eng in an Ambassador, running Phaser beams and Quantums.
The best I have been able to manage is 2750dps according to ACT, and that was with the Vesta in Infected.
I am not after the huge numbers being disscussed here, but surely I can do better than this, even with 'inferior' gear.
Won't bother putting my boffs, skills etc down as am willing to change it all if required.
Feel free to PM me, with any ideas, as I don't want to fill your thread with further, 'not really relavent' posts.:o
Thanks in advance for any forthcoming advice.
Coldbeer
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
Sphere: 194,405 x16 = 3,110,480
Generator: 198,824 x8 = 1,590,592
Transformer: 646,180 x2 = 1,292,360
Gate: 1,554,908
Tac Cube: 1,942,400
Total ISE Hull = 10,522,140
Posted Parse Log = 15,687,448
Difference = 5,165,308
Something doesn't add up here. Their are some things that could be responsible for this difference such as damage that is instantly healed, shield damage being considered damage, or there is the most likely possibility that FaW is not being parsed properly.
Not saying the build is bad. Saying the numbers don't add up.
The keys to beams are power and accuracy. There is a weapon's soft cap of of about 160.. the more power you pump into the beams the more damage you do. Accuracy in beams is important because of the game mechanics a miss on a beam is exponentially more a drop in dps than cannons.
And to the comment up above. TSS2 HE1 Auxtsif3, Et1 is plenty good enough for survivability.
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
Considering nearly half of the targets in ISE have no shields and that shield values are much lower than hull values I find it difficult to believe 5 mil damage was shield.
You seriously have that much faith in the parser that you don't think there is even a possibility that it is not working correctly?
Am I getting through stfs with pugs in record time.. YES. Do I think this is a solid build that rips anything pve can throw at me apart. YES.
Have you personally run with me to see that im full of it. NO. Have I made the offer in this thread 3 times now to run with anyone that doubts this ship. YES
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Cruisers with mk x common in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82PqoFFxjc
Cruisers with good gear in infected elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnFljZD9m8
Soloing Infected Elite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEFICFx4E8&feature=youtu.be
Have I once contest that the build was effective or works well in pve? NO
Have I contested the DPS number claim as being perfectly accurate? YES
And if it makes you feel any better I'll run an STF with you if you wish.
*edit*
Did a run. Galaxy performed very well and gotta say pretty darn zippy too for being such a whale!