Sela is a fantastic character and we're excited that we'll be working with Denise Crosby again soon.
Some things to remember that are already in game or implied in game - Hakeev did report to Sela at some level and Hakeev was Tal Shiar. The Undine have been heavily influenced by some sort of Iconian plot, so there is a definite chance that the Iconian plot extends to the Delta quadrant and isn't just limited to the Alpha/Beta. Obisek was considered a terrorist and so it is interesting to see him connected with D'Tan on New Romulus. It is breaking with the norm to allow an Iconian gateway to exist when pretty much every other Gateway has been purposely destroyed up to this point. It is unclear if Sela was pulled through the Iconian asteroid gateway willingly, but they did seem to single out her ship as if to rescue it or her. It is unclear if the ships we've been seeing are actually Iconian... we just assume they are, but its been so long - who knows...
Heya Daniel - glad you decided to pipe-in on this thread. Quite random!
That said, can we just casually forget the concept of the Hirogen and Romulans linking up and becoming allies? I know the idea was to somehow fill out the Romulan faction, but the idea is just...silly (save for them having some sort of Iconain gateway...)
Heya Daniel - glad you decided to pipe-in on this thread. Quite random!
That said, can we just casually forget the concept of the Hirogen and Romulans linking up and becoming allies? I know the idea was to somehow fill out the Romulan faction, but the idea is just...silly (save for them having some sort of Iconain gateway...)
That would be great. kthxbai
the hirogen never would've linked up with the romulans if sela hadn't brought them back with her when she returned from exile
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"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Not entirely correct. A supernova (in stars large enough to produce such an explosion) is actually preceded by a massive implosion of the star's core (as the gravity of the core outsrips both the fusion reaction and neutron density's abilities to stop said implosion) that causes a runaway thermal reaction which (after a whole bunch of crazily complicated physics reactions) results in the non-collapsed part of the star to be flung away at insane velocities.
So while the Uthat may initially stop a stellar fusion reaction, another one would almost certainly begin in it's place after core collapse starts. Except this time, it's not a stable warm and glowy one, it's an out of control kaboomy one.
Pretty much that. The fusion in the star is what holds it from collapsing. If, out of the blue the reaction stops, it implodes, generating extreme pressure. What happens with all that "pressurised" energy? A (super)nova happens. If then there's still an incredible amount of material left for the star, it becomes a neutron star or even a black hole (instead of a brown dwarf).
So a tool that stops nuclear fusion in a star is basically a (super)nova maker.
I won't deny what you say is accurate, but that only applies with a natural stellar death.
Again with the Tox Uthat, it stops all Nuclear Fusion. Which means all energy and pressure is effectively gone and the star goes poof. But since the gravitational force is still present due to the still-existing mass, all the stellar gas implodes into a dead mass that isn't sufficient enough to turn into a neutron star or a black hole. It would be basically a large metal planet.
if you recall, tolian soran's trilithium weapon did the same thing, and while that star didn't explode in a supernova, it still released a shockwave powerful enough to obliterate everything it touched
Exactly! It didn't go supernova, it imploded. But many people think the star went supernova because of that shockwave, which destroyed the Viridian system.
But to be absolutely sure, I placed some E-mails to some Astrophysicists whom I hope could give us a definite answer. Never know, the result might be something unexpected.
Well, we don't exactly have a precise understanding of how the Tox Uthat worked. Or any information on who it's creator was.... we have a name(Kal Dano), but.... no information about what race he was or who he was working for. Sooo... the writers have a lot of room for "interpretation".
Seriously though, I hope Starfleet haven't forgotten about Portal 63, if there's anyone who would be of help against the Iconians it'd be the last vestige of the Tkon Empire.
I would LOVE to see the Tkon Empire come back in some form or fashion.
Sort of. They were all killed off, but considering they're capable of moving Star Systems around, it's safe to assume that some of their creations have survived.
Yes, But.... the interesting thing is that the T'Kon had anticipated this and were planning to fix the problem..... but the star blew early while they hadn't finished their preparations. Random fluke? Or.... Is it possible that the T'Kon once went to war with the Iconians?
My latter point was more that if the Iconians tried to trigger another subspace shockwave supernova event, we could counter them by using a Tox Uthat (or a trilithium warhead) to implode the star first.
Given that they use stars as a universe destroying supernova gimmick, if we take out the star with an implosion device first, we may wipe out a system but we save countless more systems from an event like like the Hobus event.
I won't deny what you say is accurate, but that only applies with a natural stellar death.
Again with the Tox Uthat, it stops all Nuclear Fusion. Which means all energy and pressure is effectively gone and the star goes poof. But since the gravitational force is still present due to the still-existing mass, all the stellar gas implodes into a dead mass that isn't sufficient enough to turn into a neutron star or a black hole. It would be basically a large metal planet.
Exactly! It didn't go supernova, it imploded. But many people think the star went supernova because of that shockwave, which destroyed the Viridian system.
But to be absolutely sure, I placed some E-mails to some Astrophysicists whom I hope could give us a definite answer. Never know, the result might be something unexpected.
I'm sure curious what answers you get (if any) from those astrophysicists.
However the point you seem to not get is that a star imploding will end up triggering a nova, unless it's a star of really small mass in the first place (not massive enought to create sufficient heat and pressure when collapsing).
EDIT: OK, have been looking into all of this and it's way more complicated than I thought. Basically, it would seem all of us are at least partially right depending on the star mass, composition, ... (Also nova has now a different meaning than supernova, news to me.)
Either way, Iconians sure are capable of somehow inducing a supernova or possibly inhibiting it whenever they choose. I'm convinced they had their hands in the destruction of Romulus and that they've been toying with the galaxy for quite a couple thousand years.
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I'm sure curious what answers you get (if any) from those astrophysicists.
However the point you seem to not get is that a star imploding will end up triggering a nova, unless it's a star of really small mass in the first place (not massive enought to create sufficient heat and pressure when collapsing).
EDIT: OK, have been looking into all of this and it's way more complicated than I thought. Basically, it would seem all of us are at least partially right depending on the star mass, composition, ... (Also nova has now a different meaning than supernova, news to me.)
Either way, Iconians sure are capable of somehow inducing a supernova or possibly inhibiting it whenever they choose. I'm convinced they had their hands in the destruction of Romulus and that they've been toying with the galaxy for quite a couple thousand years.
Yes, Novae only occurs when a white dwarf in a binary system takes on a certain amount of gas from the other and flashes it off. In fact, this was featured in Season 3 Episode 1. (Of course, with modern science, the neutron star likely would've been a white dwarf).
Anyhow, I'm not going to deny the Iconian capability of creating supernovae, and we seen all too often the various devices with TNG-era devices that could do the same thing. But do we really need to introduce more time travel into STO? :P
Anyhow, I'm not going to deny the Iconian capability of creating supernovae, and we seen all too often the various devices with TNG-era devices that could do the same thing. But do we really need to introduce more time travel into STO? :P
I'd say now that we have Walker as an NPC, we at least have a semi-stable mechanism for doing it.
My big thing is that I'd rather not see too much TOS (although the Connie interior map getting used would be nice).
Keep in mind, I've said for years that I'd have totally supported a "Time Trek" series based entirely around time travel. I'd just prefer not to see any one era overdone and would prefer more emphasis on eras not covered elsewhere, either original or offscreen.
I'd actually really like a 1960s Las Vegas adventure zone. There's more lore to support that than there is anything about Romulus... and you could reasonably acknowledge every series. Plus, it would delight me to no end to have species customized dialogues where you explain why you're not an alien.
You could have the REAL Vic's Lounge, acknowledgements of the 60s sci-fi guys from DS9, a fledgling Chronowerx, military personnel from DS9 and TOS mingling around, Redjack causing trouble, Gary Seven and Isis -- and plenty of chance for Little Green Men style fun so it doesn't need to be human centric; it's just humans providing the atmosphere.
I'd actually really like a 1960s Las Vegas adventure zone. There's more lore to support that than there is anything about Romulus... and you could reasonably acknowledge every series. Plus, it would delight me to no end to have species customized dialogues where you explain why you're not an alien.
You could have the REAL Vic's Lounge, acknowledgements of the 60s sci-fi guys from DS9, a fledgling Chronowerx, military personnel from DS9 and TOS mingling around, Redjack causing trouble, Gary Seven and Isis -- and plenty of chance for Little Green Men style fun so it doesn't need to be human centric; it's just humans providing the atmosphere.
Huh. I see time travel as a hideously overdone, and poorly more oft than not, but a time travel themed adventure zone would be hilariously fun. Perhaps not Las Vegas (San Francisco would make more sense) but that could be a lot of fun. And the 60's era stuff could always be tweaked into 20's era stuff for Sigma Iotia II.
Sure, it was kind of silly, but it's a Gangster Planet. How badass would that be?
Picard and Data did kinda-sort imply/speculate in "Contagion" that the Iconians may have been peaceful, but set upon by jealous adversaries who rewrote history after the bombardment to recharacterize the Iconians as "demons."
Random thought, mostly unrelated: what if that communications network Voyager and the Hirogen used was also leftover Iconian junk?
My random thought: It appears to me that not all on New Romulus are who they claim to be...
I'm sure curious what answers you get (if any) from those astrophysicists.
However the point you seem to not get is that a star imploding will end up triggering a nova, unless it's a star of really small mass in the first place (not massive enought to create sufficient heat and pressure when collapsing).
EDIT: OK, have been looking into all of this and it's way more complicated than I thought. Basically, it would seem all of us are at least partially right depending on the star mass, composition, ... (Also nova has now a different meaning than supernova, news to me.)
Either way, Iconians sure are capable of somehow inducing a supernova or possibly inhibiting it whenever they choose. I'm convinced they had their hands in the destruction of Romulus and that they've been toying with the galaxy for quite a couple thousand years.
A star imploding doesn't really trigger an explosion, it's more of a rebound effect. All that material rushing inward doesn't just stop when it gets to the center, it all bounces off itself and gets flung outward which makes it seem like an explosion. Of course, if the star is sufficiently massive it becomes a black hole instead.
As far as the Iconians go, yeah, I would not be surprised at all if we find out somewhere down the line that they had a hand in the Hobus supernova.
As far as the Iconians go, yeah, I would not be surprised at all if we find out somewhere down the line that they had a hand in the Hobus supernova.
technically, we already found that out; taris is the one who caused the supernova by firing a tekasite-decalithium-protomatter warhead into the star, and the iconians broke her out of facility 4028 during the 2800 arc
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Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I'd say now that we have Walker as an NPC, we at least have a semi-stable mechanism for doing it.
My big thing is that I'd rather not see too much TOS (although the Connie interior map getting used would be nice).
Keep in mind, I've said for years that I'd have totally supported a "Time Trek" series based entirely around time travel. I'd just prefer not to see any one era overdone and would prefer more emphasis on eras not covered elsewhere, either original or offscreen.
I'd actually really like a 1960s Las Vegas adventure zone. There's more lore to support that than there is anything about Romulus... and you could reasonably acknowledge every series. Plus, it would delight me to no end to have species customized dialogues where you explain why you're not an alien.
You could have the REAL Vic's Lounge, acknowledgements of the 60s sci-fi guys from DS9, a fledgling Chronowerx, military personnel from DS9 and TOS mingling around, Redjack causing trouble, Gary Seven and Isis -- and plenty of chance for Little Green Men style fun so it doesn't need to be human centric; it's just humans providing the atmosphere.
Huh. I see time travel as a hideously overdone, and poorly more oft than not, but a time travel themed adventure zone would be hilariously fun. Perhaps not Las Vegas (San Francisco would make more sense) but that could be a lot of fun. And the 60's era stuff could always be tweaked into 20's era stuff for Sigma Iotia II.
Sure, it was kind of silly, but it's a Gangster Planet. How badass would that be?
That's an idea to avoid Time Travel, a themed planet. Maybe return to Sigma Iota and see they are still in the 20s?
Vic's lounge is a great place to visit the 60s. Remember saying that make a good place for a casino and one place players can play poker in public (private games are held on player ships).
Maybe the STO team can collaborate with both the Neverwinter Team and Champion Teams and import some models from those games and have ourselves Holodeck Missions to Medieval Earth or 20th Century Earth?
Go even further and have time-themed missions for other races and sort of explore their pasts? Maybe have us experience the Time of Awakening in Surak's time. Perhaps tie it into the Romulan Storyline and explore the reasons why they left Vulcan.
Perhaps tie it into the Romulan Storyline and explore the reasons why they left Vulcan.
if they do that, i'd like to also see a tie-in between all the displaced romulan refugees still on Hfihar and the new romulus colony; now that madran has fled to parts unknown and is a wanted fugitive, it would be a good time to go liberate those workers...
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
if they do that, i'd like to also see a tie-in between all the displaced romulan refugees still on Hfihar and the new romulus colony; now that madran has fled to parts unknown and is a wanted fugitive, it would be a good time to go liberate those workers...
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
technically, we already found that out; taris is the one who caused the supernova by firing a tekasite-decalithium-protomatter warhead into the star, and the iconians broke her out of facility 4028 during the 2800 arc
that's pretty telling, if a bit reaching
::random 3am ponderings...::
that is what has been reported anyway... I'm curious if Taris would admit to that.
I wonder if they caught any video footage of Taris disappearing from facility 4028? Or better yet, how does anyone know what an Iconian really looks like? We have some ancient descriptions, but would you know one if you saw one?
They disappeared so long ago... how much is myth? I can understand if Taris is with the Iconians - she had been searching for them, but Sela? Why would she get "rescued"? I can't imagine Taris and Sela being on the same page...
that is what has been reported anyway... I'm curious if Taris would admit to that.
I wonder if they caught any video footage of Taris disappearing from facility 4028? Or better yet, how does anyone know what an Iconian really looks like? We have some ancient descriptions, but would you know one if you saw one?
They disappeared so long ago... how much is myth? I can understand if Taris is with the Iconians - she had been searching for them, but Sela? Why would she get "rescued"? I can't imagine Taris and Sela being on the same page...
I wonder if they caught any video footage of Taris disappearing from facility 4028? Or better yet, how does anyone know what an Iconian really looks like? We have some ancient descriptions, but would you know one if you saw one?
maybe not video footage, but the facility's sensors picked up an iconian transporter signal in taris' cell...though, how the federation would even know what such a signal would look like, i'm not sure, unless it's similar to the energy given off by their gateways
as for the iconian appearance, there was that hologram at the end of Secrets of the Ancients...though, there's no way of knowing that was actually an iconian...did look a bit like the concept art of one that's up on their STOWiki page, however
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
that is what has been reported anyway... I'm curious if Taris would admit to that.
I wonder if they caught any video footage of Taris disappearing from facility 4028? Or better yet, how does anyone know what an Iconian really looks like? We have some ancient descriptions, but would you know one if you saw one?
They disappeared so long ago... how much is myth? I can understand if Taris is with the Iconians - she had been searching for them, but Sela? Why would she get "rescued"? I can't imagine Taris and Sela being on the same page...
Possibly worth noting: we are told that Iconian *technology* was involved in Taris' disappearance from Facility 4028 (the energy signature is recognised as Iconian, and Starfleet has encounted Iconian technology and gotten away to report it at least two times). Given that we know that surviving Iconian technology can be found across large regions of the galaxy even so long after Iconia's bombardment, that does not prove that actual Iconians took her...
that is what has been reported anyway... I'm curious if Taris would admit to that.
I wonder if they caught any video footage of Taris disappearing from facility 4028? Or better yet, how does anyone know what an Iconian really looks like? We have some ancient descriptions, but would you know one if you saw one?
They disappeared so long ago... how much is myth? I can understand if Taris is with the Iconians - she had been searching for them, but Sela? Why would she get "rescued"? I can't imagine Taris and Sela being on the same page...
Iconians, according to the recording, look like thalosian from "the cage". /mindblown
Huh. I see time travel as a hideously overdone, and poorly more oft than not, but a time travel themed adventure zone would be hilariously fun. Perhaps not Las Vegas (San Francisco would make more sense) but that could be a lot of fun. And the 60's era stuff could always be tweaked into 20's era stuff for Sigma Iotia II.
Sure, it was kind of silly, but it's a Gangster Planet. How badass would that be?
It was a Gangster Planet... 141 years ago (and Kirk did suggest the Federation would intervene further - and if they didn't, that transtator may have had an influence...). I would expect some changes to have occured - perhaps an unholy blend of 1920s exaggerated Chicago, TOS-era Starfleet and some natural development (in a 60s direction, perhaps?)?
Dan, you're posts are cracking me up, I love it. Random posting that are meant to make you think about what you know and what you can expect... all coming from the one person deeply in the know of what has been and will be. Love it!
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Heya Daniel - glad you decided to pipe-in on this thread. Quite random!
That said, can we just casually forget the concept of the Hirogen and Romulans linking up and becoming allies? I know the idea was to somehow fill out the Romulan faction, but the idea is just...silly (save for them having some sort of Iconain gateway...)
That would be great. kthxbai
the hirogen never would've linked up with the romulans if sela hadn't brought them back with her when she returned from exile
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I won't deny what you say is accurate, but that only applies with a natural stellar death.
Again with the Tox Uthat, it stops all Nuclear Fusion. Which means all energy and pressure is effectively gone and the star goes poof. But since the gravitational force is still present due to the still-existing mass, all the stellar gas implodes into a dead mass that isn't sufficient enough to turn into a neutron star or a black hole. It would be basically a large metal planet.
Exactly! It didn't go supernova, it imploded. But many people think the star went supernova because of that shockwave, which destroyed the Viridian system.
But to be absolutely sure, I placed some E-mails to some Astrophysicists whom I hope could give us a definite answer. Never know, the result might be something unexpected.
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I would LOVE to see the Tkon Empire come back in some form or fashion.
Didn't their star also go supernova?
Sort of. They were all killed off, but considering they're capable of moving Star Systems around, it's safe to assume that some of their creations have survived.
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Given that they use stars as a universe destroying supernova gimmick, if we take out the star with an implosion device first, we may wipe out a system but we save countless more systems from an event like like the Hobus event.
I'm sure curious what answers you get (if any) from those astrophysicists.
However the point you seem to not get is that a star imploding will end up triggering a nova, unless it's a star of really small mass in the first place (not massive enought to create sufficient heat and pressure when collapsing).
EDIT: OK, have been looking into all of this and it's way more complicated than I thought. Basically, it would seem all of us are at least partially right depending on the star mass, composition, ... (Also nova has now a different meaning than supernova, news to me.)
Either way, Iconians sure are capable of somehow inducing a supernova or possibly inhibiting it whenever they choose. I'm convinced they had their hands in the destruction of Romulus and that they've been toying with the galaxy for quite a couple thousand years.
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Yes, Novae only occurs when a white dwarf in a binary system takes on a certain amount of gas from the other and flashes it off. In fact, this was featured in Season 3 Episode 1. (Of course, with modern science, the neutron star likely would've been a white dwarf).
Anyhow, I'm not going to deny the Iconian capability of creating supernovae, and we seen all too often the various devices with TNG-era devices that could do the same thing. But do we really need to introduce more time travel into STO? :P
I'd say now that we have Walker as an NPC, we at least have a semi-stable mechanism for doing it.
My big thing is that I'd rather not see too much TOS (although the Connie interior map getting used would be nice).
Keep in mind, I've said for years that I'd have totally supported a "Time Trek" series based entirely around time travel. I'd just prefer not to see any one era overdone and would prefer more emphasis on eras not covered elsewhere, either original or offscreen.
I'd actually really like a 1960s Las Vegas adventure zone. There's more lore to support that than there is anything about Romulus... and you could reasonably acknowledge every series. Plus, it would delight me to no end to have species customized dialogues where you explain why you're not an alien.
You could have the REAL Vic's Lounge, acknowledgements of the 60s sci-fi guys from DS9, a fledgling Chronowerx, military personnel from DS9 and TOS mingling around, Redjack causing trouble, Gary Seven and Isis -- and plenty of chance for Little Green Men style fun so it doesn't need to be human centric; it's just humans providing the atmosphere.
Huh. I see time travel as a hideously overdone, and poorly more oft than not, but a time travel themed adventure zone would be hilariously fun. Perhaps not Las Vegas (San Francisco would make more sense) but that could be a lot of fun. And the 60's era stuff could always be tweaked into 20's era stuff for Sigma Iotia II.
Sure, it was kind of silly, but it's a Gangster Planet. How badass would that be?
My random thought: It appears to me that not all on New Romulus are who they claim to be...
A star imploding doesn't really trigger an explosion, it's more of a rebound effect. All that material rushing inward doesn't just stop when it gets to the center, it all bounces off itself and gets flung outward which makes it seem like an explosion. Of course, if the star is sufficiently massive it becomes a black hole instead.
As far as the Iconians go, yeah, I would not be surprised at all if we find out somewhere down the line that they had a hand in the Hobus supernova.
technically, we already found that out; taris is the one who caused the supernova by firing a tekasite-decalithium-protomatter warhead into the star, and the iconians broke her out of facility 4028 during the 2800 arc
that's pretty telling, if a bit reaching
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
That's an idea to avoid Time Travel, a themed planet. Maybe return to Sigma Iota and see they are still in the 20s?
Vic's lounge is a great place to visit the 60s. Remember saying that make a good place for a casino and one place players can play poker in public (private games are held on player ships).
Maybe the STO team can collaborate with both the Neverwinter Team and Champion Teams and import some models from those games and have ourselves Holodeck Missions to Medieval Earth or 20th Century Earth?
Go even further and have time-themed missions for other races and sort of explore their pasts? Maybe have us experience the Time of Awakening in Surak's time. Perhaps tie it into the Romulan Storyline and explore the reasons why they left Vulcan.
if they do that, i'd like to also see a tie-in between all the displaced romulan refugees still on Hfihar and the new romulus colony; now that madran has fled to parts unknown and is a wanted fugitive, it would be a good time to go liberate those workers...
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Thought we rescued them in Mine Trap?
are they actually being taken off-planet though, or just somewhere safe elsewhere on the planet until the salt vampires can be kicked out?
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
No idea, I imagine they were evacuated to a starship.
well, there goes that idea...they were probably already delivered to new romulus
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
::random 3am ponderings...::
that is what has been reported anyway... I'm curious if Taris would admit to that.
I wonder if they caught any video footage of Taris disappearing from facility 4028? Or better yet, how does anyone know what an Iconian really looks like? We have some ancient descriptions, but would you know one if you saw one?
They disappeared so long ago... how much is myth? I can understand if Taris is with the Iconians - she had been searching for them, but Sela? Why would she get "rescued"? I can't imagine Taris and Sela being on the same page...
More importantly why are you up at 3AM? xD
maybe not video footage, but the facility's sensors picked up an iconian transporter signal in taris' cell...though, how the federation would even know what such a signal would look like, i'm not sure, unless it's similar to the energy given off by their gateways
as for the iconian appearance, there was that hologram at the end of Secrets of the Ancients...though, there's no way of knowing that was actually an iconian...did look a bit like the concept art of one that's up on their STOWiki page, however
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Iconians, according to the recording, look like thalosian from "the cage". /mindblown