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Sela ~ What's Likely, What's Not
flash525
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I've read a lot of comments recently regarding Sela and an Alliance with the Iconian. I'm here in an attempt to both open some eyes, and to further expand upon how I think Sela will be involved with the future.
I'll start with Sela and an Iconian Alliance:
Now, sure she may have her unethical ways (as far as Romulan ethics go) but I hardly doubt she's foolish enough to align herself with a superior species that would stab her in the back at any time; yes, Sela attempted to join the house of Duras (or rather, aid them) but Sela could handle the House of Duras as they were a minor house within the Empire.
In addition, Sela was a proud Romulan; she made that quite clear. Do any of you really think she'd join the species that were responsible for so many Romulan deaths?
SPOILERS AHEAD
As for Sela's role; I suspect it'll be more along the lines of this:
Last we saw of Sela, she was being towed into an Icionian Gateway. Last we learnt from D'Tan, they had found an Iconian Gateway and will no doubt have it working at some point. I think it's a fair bet that Sela (rather than be the aggressor) will be the victim that'll require rescuing. That, or she escapes her Iconian captors and, via use of another gateway, emerges on New Romulus.
Whatever is going down is going to happen on that planet, and I think it's safe to say that Sela will be a prominent figure. At heart, she is still a Romulan, and if D'Tan (and all his followers) are there getting slaughtered, I don't think Sela would be one to stand by and watch. We must remember that it is the Tal Shiar causing problems for D'Tan, and not the remainder of the Empire.
Discuss.
I'll start with Sela and an Iconian Alliance:
* The Tal Shiar are Allies of the Icionian (actually, they're puppets, but they don't know it).
* Sela doesn't like the Tal Shiar.
* The Icionian (compared to the Romulan Empire) are a superior species.
* The Iconian / Tal Shiar are (possibly inadvertently) responsible for the destruction of Romulus.
* Sela isn't stupid.
Now, sure she may have her unethical ways (as far as Romulan ethics go) but I hardly doubt she's foolish enough to align herself with a superior species that would stab her in the back at any time; yes, Sela attempted to join the house of Duras (or rather, aid them) but Sela could handle the House of Duras as they were a minor house within the Empire.
In addition, Sela was a proud Romulan; she made that quite clear. Do any of you really think she'd join the species that were responsible for so many Romulan deaths?
SPOILERS AHEAD
As for Sela's role; I suspect it'll be more along the lines of this:
Last we saw of Sela, she was being towed into an Icionian Gateway. Last we learnt from D'Tan, they had found an Iconian Gateway and will no doubt have it working at some point. I think it's a fair bet that Sela (rather than be the aggressor) will be the victim that'll require rescuing. That, or she escapes her Iconian captors and, via use of another gateway, emerges on New Romulus.
Whatever is going down is going to happen on that planet, and I think it's safe to say that Sela will be a prominent figure. At heart, she is still a Romulan, and if D'Tan (and all his followers) are there getting slaughtered, I don't think Sela would be one to stand by and watch. We must remember that it is the Tal Shiar causing problems for D'Tan, and not the remainder of the Empire.
Discuss.
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Also, allies are boring. Enemies make much better game play.
From her point of view, if the Iconians came through the portal on New Romulus and took out that colony of Romulans, the Colonies that Sela controls aren't going to be far behind. She'd be wise to act now, rather than later.
I see the potential of the Iconians appearing in what is now Romulan space and attacking them from a stronghold outside that territory. The Iconian tech on New Romulus will become integral in mounting an offensive against them and probably something of a hub for activities against them on the ground while space battles will be based out of the Vault/Starbase 39-Sierra.
I imagine the Romulan gameplay will begin prior to her abduction with you doing things for a Tal Shiar rep system throughout. The Hakeem guys will turn out to be an extremist faction working with Sela and the Iconians to use their power to give the Romulans dominion over the quadrant. These facts would be discovered as you progress through the Tal Shiar rep ranks. Sela having her operation discovered by the powers will be taken by the Iconians someplace outside our space.
This expansion might also bring about intelligence rep systems for each faction (Section 31,Fed, Klingon Intelligence for KDF)
Remember the STO take on the Hobus explosion and destruction of Romulus WAS that it was engineered by the Iconians (with Seela's and other high ranking Romulan assistance); so no, I don't think Seela cares all that much if Romulans who are allied against her are killed - so she would have no issues seeing New Romulus and its inhabitants either subjugated, or wiped out.
But, I guess we'll start seeing what happens come May.
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In 'Cloaked Intentions' it's pretty clear Seela is working with the Tal Shiar and Iconians - and since the Iconians were behind the Hobus supernova (and had Taris and other Romulans and even Remans assisting them, etc.) I think it's QED.
Again, Romulans are the ones who have 'plots within plots' (since the writers who created them are after all taking elements from the old Roman Empire to weave into their society); thuus it's probably all a ploy by Seela to pay back the old Empire, and create a 'New Empire' under her leadership.
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...I need to pay more attention to the stories.
Well, again, unless Seela is dumb, (and she is blonde after all
As far as I know, Admiral Taris never made it to public trial after you apprehend her with all the evidence as to the source of the Hobus supernova - even with ten text stating Seela will be sure to 'bring her to a public trial'.
Seela isn't out to 'restore the Romulan Empire' per se (if she were, she'd have been supporting D'Tan's efforts long before her 'abduction' - she's out to create her Romulan Empire; and will crush anyone (Romulan or otherwise) that gets in her way.
(Unless of course Denise Crosby has a 'sold' different take to Christine Thompson - and Seela becomes a 'touchy-feely' Empress who's just been misunderstood for 40+ years
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ps--my suspicion is they needed to create a power vacuum for the D'Tan splinter group to be credible, and that provided a way to terminate the Reman and Tal-Shiar arcs while allowing for the introduction of the Romulan reputation system. As I've said before I think it was a mistake. I have no idea what will happen, but my hope is Sela comes back and provides a generic RSE with the Tal-Shiar as the combat sub-faction and D'Tan as the touchy-feely sub-faction. Then we'd have the Romulan "frenemies"
Her getting killed is probably one of the things we don't get to see. Al Rivera talked about it in the UGC pod cast this week, that they can't kill off main characters. IIRC he was explicitly mentioning that Sela died in a few of the novels and he was suprised that the authors could have pulled that off.
As to Taris, keep in mind the timing - storywise it isn't that long between Taris and Cutting the Cord - the Federation and Sela migh wellt simply not have finalized the transfer before Sela's disappearance (at which point Sela obviously can't bring Taris to public trial).
However... I see a few things here:
1) The Iconians have shown a willingness through their agents to deal and the Tal Shiar tried to cut a deal with D'Tan. He said no. Their next best recourse would be to offer Sela the same deal and present the offer to her such that (true or not) the Tal Shiar will back her or D'Tan. Not both.
2) Going with Trek, I suspect Sela will be the game's answer to Dominion War era Dukat for awhile. Hence, she may well side with anyone offering power while prepared to backstab them.
3) I find it painfully clear that from a broad politics-of-the-gaming-world perspective, Cryptic and Kestrel are using a similar wheelhouse to Blizzard. And that means the game will get some form of Sylvanas or Kerrigan type. I figured that would have been Seven of Nine or Donatra leading a Borg splinter group but Sela would fit the mold as well.
We already have Varian/Shon, Garrosh/J'mpok, and Worf/Thrall. There are stock players who occupy certain roles. The vengeful, aristocratic queen grudgingly enslaved to a higher dark power while trying to protect her tattered people by endebting herself to outside forces is one of them.
Taris is in Facility 4028.
Or was.
If you explore during that mission, you'd see she was in Federation custody after Sela disappeared.
And then one of the big twists in that mission is that the Iconians broke Taris out of Federation custody. She's currently on the loose.
and then Taris escapes from facility 4028 during the 2800 arc, so she can't be brought to trial, period
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
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I always thought of a Hirogen/Romulan alliance a HUGE stretch of an attempt to fill out a possible faction. Perhaps that could play into it?
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Sela is a fantastic character and we're excited that we'll be working with Denise Crosby again soon.
Some things to remember that are already in game or implied in game - Hakeev did report to Sela at some level and Hakeev was Tal Shiar. The Undine have been heavily influenced by some sort of Iconian plot, so there is a definite chance that the Iconian plot extends to the Delta quadrant and isn't just limited to the Alpha/Beta. Obisek was considered a terrorist and so it is interesting to see him connected with D'Tan on New Romulus. It is breaking with the norm to allow an Iconian gateway to exist when pretty much every other Gateway has been purposely destroyed up to this point. It is unclear if Sela was pulled through the Iconian asteroid gateway willingly, but they did seem to single out her ship as if to rescue it or her. It is unclear if the ships we've been seeing are actually Iconian... we just assume they are, but its been so long - who knows...
is that confirmation that Denise Crosby will be further involved in STO, possibly providing further Tasha voiceovers?
well, considering the ships have the Iconian emblem in their targeting info window, what else could they be?
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Well since Memory Alpha doesn't contradict the information, I say go with it.
I could easily visualize a Hirogen storyline, where we learn their history. Their homeworld died or was destroyed, and they were forced to become nomads and spread out throughout the Galaxy. But to remain a people, they built the network to keep in touch with the different groups.
And over thousands of years, their culture evolved into a hunter society, out of the necessity for survival (in hunting food). But they became too good at hunting that it evolved even further to hunt sentient life for the challenge.
Facinating, guess we got a bit of a spoiler there.
Though never thought of Obisek as a Terrorist. I always thought of him as a rogue that the Tal Shiar was hunting down. (Would like to know more about Obisek, like what his job was in the past.)
So the Iconians used a base in the Delta Quadrant to get to Fludic Space, provoking the Iconians. And wouldn't be surprised they provided the Borg with the needs to recover from the Virus Admiral Janeway planted at the same time.
Its already been confirmed in multiple places she will be back to do more VO work.