Armament: Eight or more spiral-wave disruptors; one large aft disruptor wave cannon; possibly other weapons
Of course thats from DS9 Tech Manual that is full of TRIBBLE but at the same time its from DS9 that is also full of TRIBBLE, they certainly dont look like phasers lacking the red color as Disruptor have a green color so ... did I mentioned DS9 was full of TRIBBLE?
I agree -- The DS9 manual has too many errors to be considered canon, but the TNG TV-show is an offical source. I still remember watching that episode where Captain Jelico ordered the Cardassian Fleet hiding in the Nebula to eject their phaser coils, then asked that Captain Picard be released as an after-thought.
Rear Admiral Nora Satie may have been Picard's adversary, but she did well in selecting Jelico to rescue him.
People face it: you gambled. You bought Mk XI phasers with stats of Mk XII phasers. Either (1) the stats where wrong or (2)they were labeled wrong.
I'm absolutely sure you see yourself as being superior for posting this hunk of drivel, which says some really nasty things about you. What I did was spend >money< based on stats, just as I do all the time. I didn't gamble on anything. We aren't talking lockboxes here. Regardless of the reason for Cryptics supposed error, the proposed solution stinks for me, and that's the rub here. Nothing more or less.
Why do people like you think that it's your job to calm the masses by trying to make them feel foolish? The only place where you can get away with behaving in this fashion is online, which again speaks volumes about your character. A bit of advice, take it or leave it: If you can't be supportive towards people think that they've been wronged, be quiet.
Regardless of whether or not it was a mistake, error, miscalculation, mislabel, slip-up, blunder or whatever, people were affected. As people were affected it is NOT simple as that and it IS an issue.
Out of curiosity, do you have the ship and di you buy the weapons? I'm guessing no to at least one of those.
Actually, yes I do I was affected as any in this thread or otherwise, and I do not have a problem with it.
I figured they were MK XI weapons despite saying MK XII (because let's face it, everything else in the store was equal to a MK XI), which was what I was going for.
So I enjoyed the extra benefit while I could, then lost it with the change, but still have what I planned to get. So I do not see the change as an issue in-of itself, and for me, it is as simple as that. But don't worry, I do see that's not the case with everyone else
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Amen ,.... I outfitted a few different toons and that cost a LOT of dilithium.
Refund.
In all seriousness, why is Cryptic remaining silent on issuing a refund when such a gesture would easily correct the negative customer impact that resulted from their original error?
The Dilithium store isn't intended to carry the best equipment in the game. These items were priced as Mark XI items - similar to the other gear already available in the Dilithium store. The incorrect stats were a bug, and I apologize if people bought them based on that bug.
As a general rule, we try to keep our endgame equipment in endgame systems, such as the Fleet system and the various Reputation systems.
We'd like to have higher-end Andorian weapons available as well, and we're currently discussing the best way to make those available to players.
Here's the thing ... Whether a bug or not ... mislabeled or not ... fact is that people paid for what they saw.
Changing it is bad business. Existing weapons need to keep their stats ... or ... you give those who bought them a limited chance to cash them back in for the original dilithium.
Anything else does point towards false advertising. (Betting Cryptic made a bundle on this ... mistake.)
EDIT -- I do agree with others that have stated it would be easily corrected by setting up an exchange console that is good for x amount of days to be swapped back for a refund.
People before already asked for MK XII versions, this is because most people beLIEve what the game tells them, you need exterior programs to actually see the truth and they just see "Mk XI" and "rare" without actually testing, also from what I read they arent superior or equal, just slightly inferior with a DPS difference of 10, short but its there.
Also do you gamble when you go to a restaurant and ask for a beef steak and instead you get served horse steak? without being in Europe that is.
What you are saying is this, its FINE to be LIED to since it said one thing and did another ... sure its error in your favor but there is also a card on Monopoly were you get money because "the bank made a error in your favor", it happens but saying its FINE when its against the player? Usually when that happens its a bug ... funny that.
I didnt ordered horse steak.
Now obviously I'm playing here devils advocate but you bought MK XI phasers. Comparison with other MK XI/XII phasers told you they are called Mk XI but have the stats of Mk XII phasers.
Therefore you bought them. This was based on the assumption the error was in the name, not in the stats. You were wrong.
At first I thought what a scam. But after some conversation with other Andorians in my fleet I realized they were right. They bought them just for RP reasons. For other activities we switched back to our old weapons. Conclusion: the reason to buy Andorian phasers
is just their colour. If you care for stats you buy either fleet AP/plasma or fleet elite phasers.
Then why bother posting in direct opposition to the way most of us feel about the situation? Brown-nosing perhaps? Really...
Brown nosing?
Ah yes, to say I'm sucking up to someone... that was not my intention. What was my intention was trying to provide another POV to the situation, one that's more calm, and generally see if people could think for a few seconds.
People have a problem with things = perfectly okay. But saying things out of frustration or anger (such as Cryptic was lying to you, when it was simply a mistake), that is not okay, to me. Probably counterproductive considering I'm on an internet forum, but I do try to defuse things like that anyway
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Now obviously I'm playing here devils advocate but you bought MK XI phasers. Comparison with other MK XI/XII phasers told you they are called Mk XI but have the stats of Mk XII phasers.
Therefore you bought them. This was based on the assumption the error was in the name, not in the stats. You were wrong.
At first I thought what a scam. But after some conversation with other Andorians in my fleet I realized they were right. They bought them just for RP reasons. For other activities we switched back to our old weapons. Conclusion: the reason to buy Andorian phasers
is just their colour. If you care for stats you buy either fleet AP/plasma or fleet elite phasers.
Considering they are special "Andorian" phasers I don't find it hard to believe that folks who bought them were pretty confident about the legitimacy of the stats.
People face it: you gambled. You bought Mk XI phasers with stats of Mk XII phasers. Either (1) the stats where wrong or (2)they were labeled wrong.
I hate to use the old 'excuse me ?' , but Excuse Me ???
A 25-50$ item that needed a ton of fixes and now even it's accessories (that cost more money (or grind)) get fudged as well ??
Who let Bobo The Clown run the show (?) and how on earth are we suppose to trust anything else that Cryptic might want to sell us ?
Also , the proposed solution is not all that great because it hides the Mk12 versions behind the Giant Wall of Grind called a Starbase .
How is that exactly supposed to encourage sales of the Smurf ship ?
Now obviously I'm playing here devils advocate but you bought MK XI phasers. Comparison with other MK XI/XII phasers told you they are called Mk XI but have the stats of Mk XII phasers.
Therefore you bought them. This was based on the assumption the error was in the name, not in the stats. You were wrong.
At first I thought what a scam. But after some conversation with other Andorians in my fleet I realized they were right. They bought them just for RP reasons. For other activities we switched back to our old weapons. Conclusion: the reason to buy Andorian phasers
is just their colour. If you care for stats you buy either fleet AP/plasma or fleet elite phasers.
Honestly? I thought about the only other racial weapon that came to mind (Spiral Waves), assumed that they would be a little better than their peers (as the Spiral Waves are) and assumed that Cryptic would do their job correctly and get the stats right.
People may disagree but I do consider the fleet weapons to be better than the Andorian weapons but I wanted them because I like trying to keep ships true to canon. My D'Kora? Full Ferengi set, even though the missile blow chunks. My JHAS? Uses Jem'Hadar set and polarons. I wanted blue phasers on my Andorian ship and was prepared to spend over 100,000 dilithium on weapons that (again, in my opinion) are weaker than fleet weapons.
Ah yes, to say I'm sucking up to someone... that was not my intention. What was my intention was trying to provide another POV to the situation, one that's more calm, and generally see if people could think for a few seconds.
No offense, but it sounds like you were raised in a bubble. Seeing yourself as the ambassador of sweetness and light, in person, for someone who feels that they're being hosed can, and has, ended with less than healthy results. That's why your approach seems so alien to me.
People have a problem with things = perfectly okay. But saying things out of frustration or anger (such as Cryptic was lying to you, when it was simply a mistake), that is not okay, to me. Probably counterproductive considering I'm on an internet forum, but I do try to defuse things like that anyway
I never said that they lied, did I? I've seen other responses that assumed the same posture as I: "I don't care what the cause of the problem was, it's the proposed solution that sucks." If you really view yourself this way, why not take it PM? Do you really need to patronize everyone in this thread?
In all seriousness, why is Cryptic remaining silent on issuing a refund when such a gesture would easily correct the negative customer impact that resulted from their original error?
Not to mention the good PR / Karma...
never going to happen tbh which is a shame and my last purchase
No offense, but it sounds like you were raised in a bubble. Seeing yourself as the ambassador of sweetness and light, in person, for someone who feels that they're being hosed can, and has, ended with less than healthy results. That's why your approach seems so alien to me.
I never said that they lied, did I? I've seen other responses that assumed the same posture as I: "I don't care what the cause of the problem was, it's the proposed solution that sucks." If you really view yourself this way, why not take it PM? Do you really need to patronize everyone in this thread?
No offense taken But bubble or not, I'm content with more unusual approaches, as I'm an unusual person. I simply thought being calm might help, even just a bit.
And while I could use PM's, it's much harder to see, with it being in User CP, not to mention the actual focus of the people I'd want to talk to currently on this thread... this was simply more visible, so it's the approach I've taken.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
No, the reason to BUY Andorian Phasers is to be competitive, Mk XI blue is not competitive and if you just want the color the Mk X white does fine and its free and you have unlimited amounts of them.
Yes and no. I wanted to have blue phasers. Canon blue phasers. I considered the stock phasers to be too weak, even for PvE. I did consider the ones I bought to be capable of at least competing, especially on the basis that they're not as good as fleet weapons. In my opinion they bridged the gap between the useless weapons that it came with and non-canon, high-end competitiveness.
They made a mistake in the labeling of the weapons. And a mistake means it was NOT intentional. Meaning you were not lied to in the first place, despite all people saying otherwise.
Now they simply corrected the error. Simple as that, and not an issue, I think
No no.. thats not whats happing.. and if it was a day one oops our mistake you may have argument. We are talking about over a week later.
What they are doing is no diffrent then if you went to buy a car that was advertised at 40mpg... then get it recalled with them saying opps our bad we forgot to install a fuel filter so now your only going to get 30 mpg. In real world buisness the company would have to compensate you or refund your money.
The fact there saying that they are nerfing it and telling the customer well your screwed and not getting what you payed for (and some payed real money for them) is pretty much theft. If they want to make this right they need to grandfather the ones in game to there owners or allow them to get a refund. Anything else is theft.
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No, but it's okay for them to make mistakes
They made a mistake in the labeling of the weapons. And a mistake means it was NOT intentional. Meaning you were not lied to in the first place, despite all people saying otherwise.
Now they simply corrected the error. Simple as that, and not an issue, I think
that's what the tribble test server is for (well it is supposed to be) , but far to often these bugs/mis-labeled things hit the holodeck
No no.. thats not whats happing.. and if it was a day one oops our mistake you may have argument. We are talking about over a week later.
What they are doing is no diffrent then if you went to buy a car that was advertised at 40mpg... then get it recalled with them saying opps our bad we forgot to install a fuel filter so now your only going to get 30 mpg. In real world buisness the company would have to compensate you or refund your money.
The fact there saying that they are nerfing it and telling the customer well your screwed and not getting what you payed for (and some payed real money for them) is pretty much theft. If they want to make this right they need to grandfather the ones in game to there owners or allow them to get a refund. Anything else is theft.
The key point missing from your scenario is that the car company has already shown up and installed the filter... so you have no choice but have the changed item.
I don't like comparing to other games as it tends to be always meet a rough response, but I look at the recent affair concerning SWTOR and costume items not looking like their picture.
You can do your own research on the entire issues, but the end result was ultimately in the best interest of the PLAYER/CONSUMER. They gave ever person who had one these items in question a matching item that had the look as advertised. But you got to keep your current items that had a different look.
Ultimately, they cared more about the player-base effected by this being content and not feeling angry concerning a real money purchase.
STO's runners and decision makers could take a lesson from that, especially in this case.
And while I could use PM's, it's much harder to see, with it being in User CP, not to mention the actual focus of the people I'd want to talk to currently on this thread... this was simply more visible, so it's the approach I've taken.
So, it's simply easier for you to patronize en masse? Dude, I'd pay to see you try to live your "great healer" fantasy on the corner of Madison and Central, in Chicago, in the middle of the summer.
Consider this and respond, if you're so inclined: I bought 8xAndorian DHC's and 4xAndorian turrets, in good faith. A fair amount of dil (money) added to the $50 for the pack, yes? The solution for these weapons being somehow OP and/or in violation of their "loot progression", is to simply invalidate the reason I bought them in the first place, AND force me to buy the same weapons again, if I want them on my Ando's. No attempt to rectify the situation to MY liking, just an "apology." Now, in all earnestness, don't I have a right to be angry, regardless of the underlining cause for this situation?
STO's runners and decision makers could take a lesson from that, especially in this case.
never going to happen tbh because they know some people use real money to buy zen then convert it into dilithium , prove me incorrect cryptic if you dare !! . everytime things like this happen makes me want to play less and less which is such a shame
So, it's simply easier for you to patronize en masse? Dude, I'd pay to see you try to live your "great healer" fantasy on the corner of Madison and Central, in Chicago, in the middle of the summer.
Consider this and respond, if you're if you're so inclined: I bought 8xAndorian DHC's and 4xAndorian turrets, in good faith. A fair amount of dil (money) added to the $50 for the pack, yes? The solution for these weapons being somehow OP and/or in violation of their "loot progression", is to simply invalidate the reason I bought them in the first place, AND force me to buy the same weapons again, if I want them on my Ando's. No attempt to rectify the situation to MY liking, just an "apology." Now, in all earnestness, don't I have a right to be angry, regardless of the underlining cause for this situation?
I can't believe they think an apology will cut it.
To mildly alter Rule of Acquisition #109, their apology and an empty sack is worth the sack.
This is being competitive, a roleplayer will walk around in social clothing with no weapon or armor because the whole point of roleplay is playing a role.
The moment you considered the Mk X common to be "too weak" is the moment you stop roleplay and became competitive, at that point we are looking at pure stats and not if they shoot in red color or blue color.
In fact Andorians Battlecruisers used "particle cannons" that doesnt say much, in fact Phasers were nadion-based particle weapons but Andorians are blue and what is blue?
Tetryon.
Simply there inst a "Andorian Phaser" as whatever they used was just particle cannons, blue in color but certainly not phaser that are orange and we seen the NX-01 firing.
Maybe was because somehow Caitians got stuck with Tetryon for unexplained reasons so that leads to "blue phasers" but if blue color was what you wanted, you had Tetryon ... oh wait, Tetryon proc is broken in space (apparently it been fixed on ground) so we back at being competitive.
Point is the moment you look at stats you lost the RP argument because you WERENT looking at RP when getting those weapons, you were looking at damage.
Firstly, I disagree with you. Weapons can'y be seen unless they're firing. If they're firing and they're not blue then, to me, that's not Andorian. I also find that tetryon looks different to the blue phasers.
Secondly, I really don't care if you don't agree. My reasons are my own and they are valid to me. I can guarantee you that you could talk until you were blue in the face and my opinion wouldn't change. Sorry.
The key point missing from your scenario is that the car company has already shown up and installed the filter... so you have no choice but have the changed item.
Fine you pre-payed or it was a manditory "fix" for the car and then when you get it its not when it was stated before.. the point is that you advertise something, and you buy it and the company needs to honor it, compensate you for it or refund it..
In the swotor issue was that Bioware changed the look of the items with out notice.. not even the function just the looks and gave everyone who bought the items the classic version for free as well as keeping the new look of the items.
But yes Bioware/EA showed the right way to deal with it... maybe PW can...maybe.
I can't believe they think an apology will cut it.
To mildly alter Rule of Acquisition #109, their apology and an empty sack is worth the sack.
Exactly right!
Secondly, I really don't care if you don't agree. My reasons are my own and they are valid to me. I can guarantee you that you could talk until you were blue in the face and my opinion wouldn't change. Sorry.
Fine you pre-payed or it was a manditory "fix" for the car and then when you get it its not when it was stated before.. the point is that you advertise something, and you buy it and the company needs to honor it, compensate you for it or refund it..
In the swotor issue was that Bioware changed the look of the items with out notice.. not even the function just the looks and gave everyone who bought the items the classic version for free as well as keeping the new look of the items.
But yes Bioware/EA showed the right way to deal with it... maybe PW can...maybe.
Oh, make no mistake I'm agreeing with you!
Just pointing out that the fix in on their side where the flim-flam some code and BOOM all our Corola's have fuel filters and have crappier MPG.
It's RARE when you can applaud how EA handles anything, but indeed that was the way to do it: seek the customers' best interests and play to that.
The best part of all this is that since the fleet version of Andorian phasers will have typical (bad) fleet modifiers that means the Kumari and all variants will basically be junk for any sort of PVP.
So after the nerf hits holodeck you can consider Kumari players to basically be a free (or easier) kill on any PVP map if they're using Andorian phasers for wing cannon synergy.
Hope nobody bought this ship expecting it was actually going to be useful for anything other than shooting dumb NPCs.
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I agree -- The DS9 manual has too many errors to be considered canon, but the TNG TV-show is an offical source. I still remember watching that episode where Captain Jelico ordered the Cardassian Fleet hiding in the Nebula to eject their phaser coils, then asked that Captain Picard be released as an after-thought.
Rear Admiral Nora Satie may have been Picard's adversary, but she did well in selecting Jelico to rescue him.
I'm absolutely sure you see yourself as being superior for posting this hunk of drivel, which says some really nasty things about you. What I did was spend >money< based on stats, just as I do all the time. I didn't gamble on anything. We aren't talking lockboxes here. Regardless of the reason for Cryptics supposed error, the proposed solution stinks for me, and that's the rub here. Nothing more or less.
Why do people like you think that it's your job to calm the masses by trying to make them feel foolish? The only place where you can get away with behaving in this fashion is online, which again speaks volumes about your character. A bit of advice, take it or leave it: If you can't be supportive towards people think that they've been wronged, be quiet.
I figured they were MK XI weapons despite saying MK XII (because let's face it, everything else in the store was equal to a MK XI), which was what I was going for.
So I enjoyed the extra benefit while I could, then lost it with the change, but still have what I planned to get. So I do not see the change as an issue in-of itself, and for me, it is as simple as that. But don't worry, I do see that's not the case with everyone else
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Amen ,.... I outfitted a few different toons and that cost a LOT of dilithium.
Refund.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
In all seriousness, why is Cryptic remaining silent on issuing a refund when such a gesture would easily correct the negative customer impact that resulted from their original error?
Not to mention the good PR / Karma...
Here's the thing ... Whether a bug or not ... mislabeled or not ... fact is that people paid for what they saw.
Changing it is bad business. Existing weapons need to keep their stats ... or ... you give those who bought them a limited chance to cash them back in for the original dilithium.
Anything else does point towards false advertising. (Betting Cryptic made a bundle on this ... mistake.)
EDIT -- I do agree with others that have stated it would be easily corrected by setting up an exchange console that is good for x amount of days to be swapped back for a refund.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
Then why bother posting in direct opposition to the way most of us feel about the situation? Brown-nosing perhaps? Really...
Now obviously I'm playing here devils advocate but you bought MK XI phasers. Comparison with other MK XI/XII phasers told you they are called Mk XI but have the stats of Mk XII phasers.
Therefore you bought them. This was based on the assumption the error was in the name, not in the stats. You were wrong.
At first I thought what a scam. But after some conversation with other Andorians in my fleet I realized they were right. They bought them just for RP reasons. For other activities we switched back to our old weapons. Conclusion: the reason to buy Andorian phasers
is just their colour. If you care for stats you buy either fleet AP/plasma or fleet elite phasers.
Ah yes, to say I'm sucking up to someone... that was not my intention. What was my intention was trying to provide another POV to the situation, one that's more calm, and generally see if people could think for a few seconds.
People have a problem with things = perfectly okay. But saying things out of frustration or anger (such as Cryptic was lying to you, when it was simply a mistake), that is not okay, to me. Probably counterproductive considering I'm on an internet forum, but I do try to defuse things like that anyway
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Considering they are special "Andorian" phasers I don't find it hard to believe that folks who bought them were pretty confident about the legitimacy of the stats.
I hate to use the old 'excuse me ?' , but Excuse Me ???
A 25-50$ item that needed a ton of fixes and now even it's accessories (that cost more money (or grind)) get fudged as well ??
Who let Bobo The Clown run the show (?) and how on earth are we suppose to trust anything else that Cryptic might want to sell us ?
Also , the proposed solution is not all that great because it hides the Mk12 versions behind the Giant Wall of Grind called a Starbase .
How is that exactly supposed to encourage sales of the Smurf ship ?
Honestly? I thought about the only other racial weapon that came to mind (Spiral Waves), assumed that they would be a little better than their peers (as the Spiral Waves are) and assumed that Cryptic would do their job correctly and get the stats right.
People may disagree but I do consider the fleet weapons to be better than the Andorian weapons but I wanted them because I like trying to keep ships true to canon. My D'Kora? Full Ferengi set, even though the missile blow chunks. My JHAS? Uses Jem'Hadar set and polarons. I wanted blue phasers on my Andorian ship and was prepared to spend over 100,000 dilithium on weapons that (again, in my opinion) are weaker than fleet weapons.
Right on both counts. How else can we trust Cryptic and yes, Bobo does seem to be running things. (That made me laugh when I read it!)
No offense, but it sounds like you were raised in a bubble. Seeing yourself as the ambassador of sweetness and light, in person, for someone who feels that they're being hosed can, and has, ended with less than healthy results. That's why your approach seems so alien to me.
I never said that they lied, did I? I've seen other responses that assumed the same posture as I: "I don't care what the cause of the problem was, it's the proposed solution that sucks." If you really view yourself this way, why not take it PM? Do you really need to patronize everyone in this thread?
never going to happen tbh which is a shame and my last purchase
DELTA PRICE RISING
And while I could use PM's, it's much harder to see, with it being in User CP, not to mention the actual focus of the people I'd want to talk to currently on this thread... this was simply more visible, so it's the approach I've taken.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Yes and no. I wanted to have blue phasers. Canon blue phasers. I considered the stock phasers to be too weak, even for PvE. I did consider the ones I bought to be capable of at least competing, especially on the basis that they're not as good as fleet weapons. In my opinion they bridged the gap between the useless weapons that it came with and non-canon, high-end competitiveness.
No no.. thats not whats happing.. and if it was a day one oops our mistake you may have argument. We are talking about over a week later.
What they are doing is no diffrent then if you went to buy a car that was advertised at 40mpg... then get it recalled with them saying opps our bad we forgot to install a fuel filter so now your only going to get 30 mpg. In real world buisness the company would have to compensate you or refund your money.
The fact there saying that they are nerfing it and telling the customer well your screwed and not getting what you payed for (and some payed real money for them) is pretty much theft. If they want to make this right they need to grandfather the ones in game to there owners or allow them to get a refund. Anything else is theft.
that's what the tribble test server is for (well it is supposed to be) , but far to often these bugs/mis-labeled things hit the holodeck
DELTA PRICE RISING
The key point missing from your scenario is that the car company has already shown up and installed the filter... so you have no choice but have the changed item.
I don't like comparing to other games as it tends to be always meet a rough response, but I look at the recent affair concerning SWTOR and costume items not looking like their picture.
You can do your own research on the entire issues, but the end result was ultimately in the best interest of the PLAYER/CONSUMER. They gave ever person who had one these items in question a matching item that had the look as advertised. But you got to keep your current items that had a different look.
Ultimately, they cared more about the player-base effected by this being content and not feeling angry concerning a real money purchase.
STO's runners and decision makers could take a lesson from that, especially in this case.
So, it's simply easier for you to patronize en masse?
Consider this and respond, if you're so inclined: I bought 8xAndorian DHC's and 4xAndorian turrets, in good faith. A fair amount of dil (money) added to the $50 for the pack, yes? The solution for these weapons being somehow OP and/or in violation of their "loot progression", is to simply invalidate the reason I bought them in the first place, AND force me to buy the same weapons again, if I want them on my Ando's. No attempt to rectify the situation to MY liking, just an "apology." Now, in all earnestness, don't I have a right to be angry, regardless of the underlining cause for this situation?
never going to happen tbh because they know some people use real money to buy zen then convert it into dilithium , prove me incorrect cryptic if you dare !!
DELTA PRICE RISING
I can't believe they think an apology will cut it.
To mildly alter Rule of Acquisition #109, their apology and an empty sack is worth the sack.
Firstly, I disagree with you. Weapons can'y be seen unless they're firing. If they're firing and they're not blue then, to me, that's not Andorian. I also find that tetryon looks different to the blue phasers.
Secondly, I really don't care if you don't agree. My reasons are my own and they are valid to me. I can guarantee you that you could talk until you were blue in the face and my opinion wouldn't change. Sorry.
Fine you pre-payed or it was a manditory "fix" for the car and then when you get it its not when it was stated before.. the point is that you advertise something, and you buy it and the company needs to honor it, compensate you for it or refund it..
In the swotor issue was that Bioware changed the look of the items with out notice.. not even the function just the looks and gave everyone who bought the items the classic version for free as well as keeping the new look of the items.
But yes Bioware/EA showed the right way to deal with it... maybe PW can...maybe.
Agreed, only I'm not sorry.
Just pointing out that the fix in on their side where the flim-flam some code and BOOM all our Corola's have fuel filters and have crappier MPG.
It's RARE when you can applaud how EA handles anything, but indeed that was the way to do it: seek the customers' best interests and play to that.
So after the nerf hits holodeck you can consider Kumari players to basically be a free (or easier) kill on any PVP map if they're using Andorian phasers for wing cannon synergy.
Hope nobody bought this ship expecting it was actually going to be useful for anything other than shooting dumb NPCs.