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  • madajmamamadajmama Member Posts: 50
    edited March 2013
    mainly people who use the thread are a different breed of players.

    many use it to show their devotion to the game, others use it to report bugs, some use it to concoct a strange story on how they got all their dilithium stolen and want zen as compensation.

    hell there are many who want to put their ideas out there, even some who want to scream nerf.

    many come on here to complain.

    but no matter what, it is those who are truly devoted to STO as a great game who even bother to post on forums.

    just like in any other game.my point is there are way more players then just us who dislike this issue.
  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    madajmama wrote: »
    just like in any other game.my point is there are way more players then just us who dislike this issue.

    no doubt, there is a fleet specifically made by jemmy dread owners who hate this issue.

    dont know the name anymore but they were quite vocal in ESD.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    no doubt, there is a fleet specifically made by jemmy dread owners who hate this issue.

    dont know the name anymore but they were quite vocal in ESD.

    There are a lot of players in-game that are feeling the Rage over the gating of the Hanger Attack Ships and I try to tell them to take their complaints to these Forums but many prefer to have nothing to do with the forums :(
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  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    errab wrote: »
    There are a lot of players in-game that are feeling the Rage over the gating of the Hanger Attack Ships and I try to tell them to take their complaints to these Forums but many prefer to have nothing to do with the forums :(

    its because they think it is worse than the abusive in game zone chat at ESD and DS9.
  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    they were quite vocal in ESD

    Well, there's a big surprise.


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  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I still find it harsh to see Gecko didn't even reply on this yet, nor do we have any real indication he even glanced in this direction.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I still find it harsh to see Gecko didn't even reply on this yet, nor do we have any real indication he even glanced in this direction.


    If this is really in his wheelhouse I'd love to hear how he feels the move is working out for Cryptic.

    IMO it just does not seem that this move was thought though at all and it really hurts the players more than benefits anyone.

    This move forces your hand on where you are going to unpack both vessels and there is no way that a Character build can be set up to use both the Bug and the Dread effectively without having to do a major re-spec each time you switch between two vessels. (Hybrid Builds are not recommended)

    In my case I only use Carriers on my Science Captains and would have no use at all for the Jem Bug ship on them other than just unlocking the option to buy the Hanger Bugs for the Dread so I makes no sense for me to look for the Bug ship at all.

    Even if I did somehow get ahold of a Bug ship and somehow fought off the impulse to sell the thing on the Exchange for insane amounts of EC I'd funnel it over to my Federation Tactical officer because that's the only Character that I have out of 8 that would get the most use out of that ship.

    We've been harping on about this issue for well over a month now and I think that we have presented some very hard to argue against points about why this move by Cryptic should have never been implemented.

    It would really be helpful (at least to me) to hear why this move made sense to Cryptic and if they are happy with what their seeing from it thus far.
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  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    hmm if only there were people who look out for the forumites and wrangle the harsh speakers....what would we call these people? watchers? guardians? moderators? forum cops? forum mall security? Monkeys in security guard outfits?

    in all seriousness I cannot see myself playing again for some time, whenever something like this pops up, it usually iritates me but in small dosages it builds up to a point where the game just stops for me...It sucks, I love the game but it's like being in relationship with a really caring but extraordinarily annoying partner, you love em but you need a break from them...often.
  • keradim45123keradim45123 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I just want them to give me an ability to get the bug ship... It is not available in game!!!!!
  • lordkratos1974lordkratos1974 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    hell no. Cryptic best not make the JHAS available to non Attack ship owners who own a Dreadnought. I own ALL of them. Its a perk for having it.
  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    hell no. Cryptic best not make the JHAS available to non Attack ship owners who own a Dreadnought. I own ALL of them. Its a perk for having it.

    well the score is now, !392 to 1....keep trying but there are more who are fighting to get it on all dread owners.

    btw wouldnt you wrather get the adv versions free as a perk?
  • theuser2021theuser2021 Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I wouldn't mind the attack ship ownership requirement for the hanger pet if the attack ship was as available as a lock box ship (or of that respective rarity). But, the attack ship is too darn rare. Right now at this moment there is only one available on the exchange for 500 million EC credits. That's not reasonable.

    I'm an engineer that captains cruisers and carriers. I don't care about the attack ship. If I ever got one I'd give it to my tactical captain or sell it. I just want the attack ship hanger pet.

    Remember, the devs announced that the Jem'hadar hanger attack ship requirement being ownership of the attack ship happened months after they discontinued their very limited availability of the attack ship.

    Obtaining the dreadnought itself already represents significant investment in this game. 800 lobi crystals isn't cheap considering the average drop per box is only 4. 800/4=200 lock boxes opened. 200/10=20 key ten packs purchased. 20*1125=22,500 zen. 22,500 zen = 225.00 dollars. Or one can be bought on the exchange, usually for around 80-100 million EC (although it requires the seller to fulfill the lobi requirements above). So you'll forgive me if I'm really upset that I need to obtain an even rarer ship just for the ability to purchase the hanger pet that it should have been available from the beginning (and the one it did come with couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper towel).

    I own several Z-store ships including the Odyssey and Andorian escort 3-packs. I've won a Galor from a lockbox, and I've bought a Recluse, and a Jem'hadar Dreadnought. I have spent quite a bit of dilithium and RL dollars to obtain these ships. I'd be willing to spend zen in the zen store to unlock the attack ship hanger pets if it came to that. So I don't think that I'm lazy, or want free things, and I'm insulted that people would insinuate such things.

    The Jem'hadar attack ship requirement feels like a form of highway robbery. The price is arbitrarily high, and there is nothing we can do about it lol.
  • mvaiksmvaiks Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well, the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship is gone from the exchange which makes this requirement more unfair then before.

    You don't have any more options to get the attack ship hangar pet now...:(
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  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I wouldn't mind the attack ship ownership requirement for the hanger pet if the attack ship was as available as a lock box ship (or of that respective rarity). But, the attack ship is too darn rare. Right now at this moment there is only one available on the exchange for 500 million EC credits. That's not reasonable.

    I'm an engineer that captains cruisers and carriers. I don't care about the attack ship. If I ever got one I'd give it to my tactical captain or sell it. I just want the attack ship hanger pet.

    Remember, the devs announced that the Jem'hadar hanger attack ship requirement being ownership of the attack ship happened months after they discontinued their very limited availability of the attack ship.

    Obtaining the dreadnought itself already represents significant investment in this game. 800 lobi crystals isn't cheap considering the average drop per box is only 4. 800/4=200 lock boxes opened. 200/10=20 key ten packs purchased. 20*1125=22,500 zen. 22,500 zen = 225.00 dollars. Or one can be bought on the exchange, usually for around 80-100 million EC (although it requires the seller to fulfill the lobi requirements above). So you'll forgive me if I'm really upset that I need to obtain an even rarer ship just for the ability to purchase the hanger pet that it should have been available from the beginning (and the one it did come with couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper towel).

    I own several Z-store ships including the Odyssey and Andorian escort 3-packs. I've won a Galor from a lockbox, and I've bought a Recluse, and a Jem'hadar Dreadnought. I have spent quite a bit of dilithium and RL dollars to obtain these ships. I'd be willing to spend zen in the zen store to unlock the attack ship hanger pets if it came to that. So I don't think that I'm lazy, or want free things, and I'm insulted that people would insinuate such things.

    The Jem'hadar attack ship requirement feels like a form of highway robbery. The price is arbitrarily high, and there is nothing we can do about it lol.

    The Hanger Bugs could have been sold in the Lobi store for 200 Lobi each, the move would have still made Cryptic some more money and it would have been much harder for me to rage about.

    I still think that Cryptic is just testing the waters with this move to see how much BS we'll take in hopes that we'll give them the green light to go ahead and start selling Hanger ships that should have been free in the Lobi Store :eek:
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  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    errab wrote: »
    I still think that Cryptic is just testing the waters with this move to see how much BS we'll take in hopes that we'll give them the green light to go ahead and start selling Hanger ships that should have been [strike]free[/strike] available to purchase in the Lobi Store :eek:

    Fixed that for ya.

    Nobody's asking for outright free stuff, rather, owning the dreadnaught should be the permission you need to buy attack ships as it is for the unique pets of other ships.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    momaw wrote: »
    Fixed that for ya.

    Nobody's asking for outright free stuff, rather, owning the dreadnaught should be the permission you need to buy attack ships as it is for the unique pets of other ships.

    That's what I was thinking in my head when I typed that but not how my words came out.

    The only requirement that should be placed on buying hanger Craft for Carriers is owning the Carrier that the hanger craft can be used on.
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  • preechrsapreechrsa Member Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Maybe all of you parasites should haul yourselves up by your space-bootstraps and stop being so poor.

    http://imgur.com/KNFSQ3s

    :rolleyes:
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  • keradim45123keradim45123 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Cryptic Please Fix This...
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    preechrsa wrote: »
    Maybe all of you parasites should haul yourselves up by your space-bootstraps and stop being so poor.

    Your avatar image explains everything.

    (mutters about Dental)
  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Stahl said in an interview that the JHAS is coming back so just wait and see and if it comes back we all get one and thats that
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Stahl said in an interview that the JHAS is coming back so just wait and see and if it comes back we all get one and thats that

    The problem is I don't want a JHAS, I need one to unlock something that want to use on my Dread (that can only be used with the Dread)

    This was just a bad move by Cryptic in the 1st place and even if the Bug ship is offered in a Luck Box again I know that I will not be going Bug Hunting.
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  • lordcorrinolordcorrino Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm guessing a dilithium or lobi version will be available after the next Jem Hadar Bugship re-release. That way Cryptic maximizes profit. They get people to buy more of the new lock box, and those who don't will get a chance later. Otherwise, it makes no sense. Why artificially lower your revenue from Dreadnought sales in order to give a perk to people who bought something earlier?
  • thepantspartythepantsparty Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm guessing a dilithium or lobi version will be available after the next Jem Hadar Bugship re-release. That way Cryptic maximizes profit. They get people to buy more of the new lock box, and those who don't will get a chance later. Otherwise, it makes no sense. Why artificially lower your revenue from Dreadnought sales in order to give a perk to people who bought something earlier?

    Unlikely the JHAS would be available for dilithium or lobi. The number of people who are turned off from buying a JHDC because of no JHAS pet is pretty low, and keeping the JHAS extremely rare allows them to drive huge demand on something when they do a promotion using it.
  • gespensterjaegergespensterjaeger Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Let me guess this straight.

    Its been now 40+ pages and dstahl or gecko dont have the moral decency to post a reply on when this is going to be fixed ?

    Im sick and tired of cryptic doing bad choices like this.
    if its not the dilithium being taken away its something else......... this time the carriers are suffering.

    bringing out a Dreadnaught jem hadar carrier and limiting the Hangar slots.

    I love the Jemhadar in ds9 tv series and cryptic violates it.
    just great.

    i got the dreadnaught couse i wanted the jemmy attack ships only later i read the fine print "you need to pay 2000 usd to get the hangar slots please quit game now"

    seariously ?

    FIX THIS NOW

    make the jemhadar hangar attack ship items slots avaible to all who own the dreadnaught carrier.

    THERE IS NO REASON to limit it to owning both the jemhadar attack ship WICH YOU CANNOT GET ANYWAYS!!!!!! then useing a TOTTALY diffrent ship aka Dreadnaught to be able to use it to its full potential glory and role playing feature!!...............

    seariously dstahl and gecko wth ?
    give us a straight got damn honest answer when THIS will be fixed ?

    or you to busy with the gold shark tank in ur office ?
    from all the USD$$$ from forceing people to get the attack ship for 500 mill to a billion EC

    ur makeing the useage and role play feature of the dreadnaguht locked and closed.
    some of us dont got platinum mastercards ok ?
    get it in ur head.
    dreadnaught should come naturally with the ability to purchase the jemhadar uppgraded hangar slots for 40.000 dilithium a pop.
    not 2000 USD!!!!!!!
    If only they fix Cloaking bugg :( *new message BOOM decloacked.
  • kronplah78kronplah78 Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Wow.... Everyone is still at it on this thread? This is purely a grief thread, nothing more. Everything posted from the people who are griefing is nothing more then whinnying, crying, and complaining. Those of you who don't like the situtation are specifically the ones (probably envious) that don't have the JHAS.

    You know what? Too eff'ing bad.

    The ship requirements for the JHAS pets were CLEARLY stated in the news thread on the main website pre-launch. Alot of people pee'd in their diapers out of blind excitement and jumped the gun on buying the JHDC from either the exchange or lobi store.

    Either quit and leave the game entirely OR pop your mouths back on your Momma's t******, and SUCK IT UP!!! (figuratively and literally)

    P.S. I have the JHAS, JHEC, and the JHDC..... So YES!!! Envy my awesomeness MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] THE POWER OF KRATOS!!!
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    Wow.... Everyone is still at it on this thread? This is purely a grief thread, nothing more. Everything posted from the people who are griefing is nothing more then whinnying, crying, and complaining. Those of you who don't like the situtation are specifically the ones (probably envious) that don't have the JHAS.

    You know what? Too eff'ing bad.

    The ship requirements for the JHAS pets were CLEARLY stated in the news thread on the main website pre-launch. Alot of people pee'd in their diapers out of blind excitement and jumped the gun on buying the JHDC from either the exchange or lobi store.

    Either quit and leave the game entirely OR pop your mouths back on your Momma's t******, and SUCK IT UP!!! (figuratively and literally)

    P.S. I have the JHAS, JHEC, and the JHDC..... So YES!!! Envy my awesomeness MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Wow,

    And we're the ones griefing :rolleyes:

    Say what you want but theres now way in hell that what Cryptic did to the Dread is right and I'll keep saying it till they fix it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • kronplah78kronplah78 Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    errab wrote: »
    Wow,

    And we're the ones griefing :rolleyes:

    Say what you want but theres now way in hell that what Cryptic did to the Dread is right and I'll keep saying it till they fix it.

    SUCCESS!!!! The power of button pushing!!!

    Well, go ahead, add 50, even 100 more pages of b**ching n complaining to this thread if you want. You're gonna be waiting a LOOOOOOOOOONG time.

    >:)
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  • issueman1issueman1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    Wow.... Everyone is still at it on this thread? This is purely a grief thread, nothing more. Everything posted from the people who are griefing is nothing more then whinnying, crying, and complaining. Those of you who don't like the situtation are specifically the ones (probably envious) that don't have the JHAS.

    You know what? Too eff'ing bad.

    The ship requirements for the JHAS pets were CLEARLY stated in the news thread on the main website pre-launch. Alot of people pee'd in their diapers out of blind excitement and jumped the gun on buying the JHDC from either the exchange or lobi store.

    Either quit and leave the game entirely OR pop your mouths back on your Momma's t******, and SUCK IT UP!!! (figuratively and literally)

    P.S. I have the JHAS, JHEC, and the JHDC..... So YES!!! Envy my awesomeness MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    I have a girlfriend and friends outside of sto.
  • kronplah78kronplah78 Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    issueman1 wrote: »
    I have a girlfriend and friends outside of sto.

    Cool. Same as I. Sorry were you 'trying' to make a point?

    Gotta love smartphones. :)

    Stay connected to the forums even while at work :D

    Oh sorry, did I take time away from your real life for you to rebuttle?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] THE POWER OF KRATOS!!!
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kronplah78 wrote: »
    Wow.... Everyone is still at it on this thread? This is purely a grief thread, nothing more. Everything posted from the people who are griefing is nothing more then whinnying, crying, and complaining. Those of you who don't like the situtation are specifically the ones (probably envious) that don't have the JHAS.

    You know what? Too eff'ing bad.

    The ship requirements for the JHAS pets were CLEARLY stated in the news thread on the main website pre-launch. Alot of people pee'd in their diapers out of blind excitement and jumped the gun on buying the JHDC from either the exchange or lobi store.

    Either quit and leave the game entirely OR pop your mouths back on your Momma's t******, and SUCK IT UP!!! (figuratively and literally)

    P.S. I have the JHAS, JHEC, and the JHDC..... So YES!!! Envy my awesomeness MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Child, let the adults speak. This was an interesting enough topic before you came along with your immature boasts.
    Run along now.
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