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What the Ambassador should be.
captainbmoney
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I think the Ambassador as an Enterprise was a Scientific cruiser in a war time setting. since we don't know to much of what happaend after the B was launched the entire timeframe of the C is only speculation and a few facts. Like fact the Romulans were being *******s to the Klingons after Khitomer Accords were signed. thus. this is my idea for the Ambassador in STO.
Heritage Heavy Cruiser
It should have the Basic Enterprise-C skin as well as the Yamaguchi Design.
900 Crew
4 Fore Weapons
4 Aft Weapons
Bridge Officer Layout.
Commander Engineer
Lieutenant Commander Science
Lieutenant Engineer
Lieutenant Tactical
Ensign Tactical.
4 Engineering Console Slots
3 Science Console Slots
2 Tactical Console Slots
I expect it's special console to be something like a big blue tachyon beam that can rip shields for 12 seconds.
When this comes out I expect the Alternate TNG uniform's from the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" to come out in the Z-Store.
I think secretly Captain Gecko agree's with me.
Heritage Heavy Cruiser
It should have the Basic Enterprise-C skin as well as the Yamaguchi Design.
900 Crew
4 Fore Weapons
4 Aft Weapons
Bridge Officer Layout.
Commander Engineer
Lieutenant Commander Science
Lieutenant Engineer
Lieutenant Tactical
Ensign Tactical.
4 Engineering Console Slots
3 Science Console Slots
2 Tactical Console Slots
I expect it's special console to be something like a big blue tachyon beam that can rip shields for 12 seconds.
When this comes out I expect the Alternate TNG uniform's from the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" to come out in the Z-Store.
I think secretly Captain Gecko agree's with me.
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Heritage Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
1050 Crew
4 Fore Weapons
4 Aft Weapons
Bridge Officer Layout.
Commander Engineer
Lieutenant Commander Science
Lieutenant Commander Tactical
Lieutenant Universal
Ensign Universal.
4 Engineering Console Slots
2 Science Console Slots
4 Tactical Console Slots
That build is wrong on so many levels...
Back to the basics Ladies and Gentlemen. Isn't my idea grand?
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No it's not. Only hardcore ambassador class lovers would bother with this ship if that was the console and bridge officer layout. 2 tac consoles and TRIBBLE tac officer layout is a fail.. Reminds me of the star cruiser, which btw is arguably the worst cruiser fedside. I'd rather a layout similar to the excelsior, but instead of that ensign engineer make it ensign science and lower the turn rate. Make the console layout 3, 3, 3. Then it would be worth using.
Am I going to have to start saving my pennies again?
It's not necessarily a ship I would fly, but it would make a better support cruiser than the Star Cruiser. Better turn rate than a SC or Oddy, so more fun to fly.
In keeping with the Enterprise-C tradition, I'd make its special ability sort of a cross between Goes Down Fighting and Ramming Speed.
"Heroic Sacrifice", can be used when hull is 25% or less, causes a large stacking damage buff for ten seconds, followed by a warp core breach.
You missed the sarcasm apparently.
It's going to release as a fairly basic ship with a much better* version of it coming out a month or two later, possibly in a $50.00 pack.
So "What should the free one be?" is kind of irrelevant since it's going to be blown away by the c-store version not long after.
*Results my vary.
That ship, along with the Connie and Excelsior, should only be used for hauling garbage. Or better yet, they should be hauled away. As garbage.
Due to another poster's request:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMrzdKzQTf8
If I could edit your quote to include a link to this, I certainly would.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMrzdKzQTf8
You guys say fanfiction is bad but I would rather have an effective ship then a watered down log.
I wonder who's more of the fan here, the person who is watering down a ship to nothing just to get it on the boards or the one who's really trying to make it into what it really should be?
None of the big cruisers are worth getting because of this kind of blatant abuse that people are doing. All this concession-izing and coddling makes hose cruisers useless to every tac out there because none of them have any real bite to them and the only people willing to actually make a ship with some fight is PWE itself, come on people get it together. If you're going to make a ship that's more then likely not going to be made how you want it any how then at least have the courage to make it worth flying.
A big ship that can't rotate b-faw 3 or cvs 3 is seriously not a tanker ship to me, it won't be able to keep aggro, it won't b aggressive, and it will still fail to be anything but target on the field to be gunned down.
editing done
Just sayin'.
I'd rather enjoy the ship the OP describes. Hell. I'd enjoy it if it was a 4-fore 3-aft sci-cruiser hybrid..
What the Ambassador SHOULD be is the T3 Cruiser that you get before the Galaxy class makes its appearance at Tier 4. (Not saying it shouldn't get a T5 refit, mind you)
The Heavy Cruiser (Four Nacelle) should then, in turn, be made the hull type for Tier 2.
Get the Constitutions and ancient, "tall-ship" design theories out of the main line. If they have to be there, put them in the C-Store, with period-appropriate statlines.
(Yes, I'm bracing for the flame onslaught.)
Not everyone wants another DPS cruiser. I personally loved flying my old Star Cruiser a long time ago in season 4-ish, before I bought my RA Excelsior.
Lt. cmdr sci opens a LOT of possibilities, far more than a Lt. Cmdr Engineer would.
That slot can hold...
Gravity Well 1
TSS 3
Sci Team 3
HE 3
Jam Sensors 3
Mask Energy Signature 3
Polarize Hull 3
Tachyon Beam 3
Tractor Beam 3
CPB 2
Energy Siphon 2
Feedback Pulse 2
Photonic Officer 2
TBR 2
SS 2
Tyken's Rift 2
Photonic Shockwave 1
Viral Matrix 1
Aside from heals, I could see some rather nasty things involving Viral Matrix for example. Buy some VM DOFFs, and suddenly cruisers are gonna start tossing out nasty science stuff, or disabling with PS 1, and so on from there.
Plus, having the Lt. Cmdr sci instead of a Lt. Cmdr engineer means fewer shared cooldowns on Engineering abilities, often times a great annoyance when it comes to cruisers.
It may not be a DPS cruiser, but then again, it's also not meant to be. Otherwise, it'd be little more than another copy of the Excelsior or Regent.
With the OPs idea (one I REALLY like btw), at least it'll have it's own new, and unique place in the game, while still being very useful.
I could post a whole build if I wanted, I already have a lot of ideas for it. If it does come with that Lt. Cmdr sci, that is gonna be AWESOME.
I had a similar thought a few months ago. I felt for awhile that the Ambassador should be the roughly 'sister' ship to the Excelsior. The Excel would be the more nimble and tac heavy one, with it's transwarp drive and all that, while the Ambassador would be the more appropriate tier 3 ship and such, or maybe a tier 3.5 as a C-store ship, with a tier 5 varient.
This really depends.
If they're going to give the Ambassador away to everyone, then they're going to realistically need it to be a T5 ship. A T3 ship is nearly useless to anyone who plays the game long enough to really start spending cash on it, and all things considered the trip to level 50 is not the beginning of the end, more the end of the beginning.
It's very unfortunate that all the ships that are obtained during leveling are essentially thrown away; I can think of a few great uses for them. However, I do know that the Ambassador's give-away version being a T3 ship would be essentially trolling the playerbase, and I can't imagine the rabid backlash.
I also believe the "Probert -sketching" is coming not too far in the future also. But I have a feeling the Devs will introduce that as a "Mirror-ship". And, it would make sense, since that version was never shown on-screen.
True, doesn't mean there still couldn't be a lower tier version though.
Take the Steamrunner bundle. It has a tier 1 and tier 5 (fleet level) ship. So a tier 1 to level with and take the console from, and a tier 5 to use at endgame.
Let em give everyone a tier 5 Ambassador, let em sell a C-store tier 5, let em sell a C-store tier 3, I'd get it all still.
I think if they got a free tier 5 Ambassador, people wouldn't really be made about lower tier ones. Let's be honest, there's virtually a guarantee of a C-store Ambassador regardless.
I really, really hope that they do it like this.
Sci - Yamaguchi
Eng - Probert Ambassador
Tac - Suricata's Rigel-class
I'd wet myself in happiness.
So what you get is the freebie classic version, then the ZStore expansion version which comes with the classic enterprise C, the Yamaguchi upgrade parts, and then the 2409 Shiny White high tech future model.
That's my wish, anyways.
I hope to see it as a T5. Considered it bought and used on the game when they do.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
a tactial
a science
a engeneering
all with 4 slots each
2 fighter wing bays.
VA Ship
Crew: 800
Base Turn: 7 - 40 inertia
Base Hull: 39000
Shield Modifier: 1
Device Slots: 4
Consoles: Engineering-3, Science-3, Tactical-3
Bridge Officers:
LtCmd-Tac (3)
LtCmd-Engineering (3)
Lt-Engineering (2)
LtCmd-Science (3)
Ensign-Science/universal (1)
You get access to some nice science abilities, but still have some decent engineering skills and decent tac ability so that you can actually do damage.