J'mpok isn't an Undine, his entire platform is the eradication of the Undine. I don't think he's with the Tal Shiar either, given his support of the New Romulus cause. That said, the only thing keeping him in power is his support with the Orions. If he would get over himself and stop the war with the Federation, then he could devote himself to fighting the Borg and the Undine, but that isn't going to happen because he's the one who advocated fighting the Federation in the first place. I almost wonder if his support for New Romulus is his way of gently ending the war with the Federation without looking like the idiot he is.
As for Q'uinn, I don't think he's an Undine, but that one is a little less black-and-white. Still, you'd think Section 31 would have figured out that Starfleet's top admiral was an imposter if he was.
I'd love to see the look on S31's faces if they suddenly found out that Drake was an Undine.
J'mpok isn't an Undine, his entire platform is the eradication of the Undine. I don't think he's with the Tal Shiar either, given his support of the New Romulus cause. That said, the only thing keeping him in power is his support with the Orions. If he would get over himself and stop the war with the Federation, then he could devote himself to fighting the Borg and the Undine, but that isn't going to happen because he's the one who advocated fighting the Federation in the first place. I almost wonder if his support for New Romulus is his way of gently ending the war with the Federation without looking like the idiot he is.
As for Q'uinn, I don't think he's an Undine, but that one is a little less black-and-white. Still, you'd think Section 31 would have figured out that Starfleet's top admiral was an imposter if he was.
J'mpok sees fighting the Federation as fighting the Undine. It' probably more than a little paranoid of him, but hey...
I think that further proof that the Empire is right, and the Federation is being controlled, is the conduct of Worf. This is a man who twice turned down the Empire in favour of the Federation, even at great personal cost to himself and his family. His adopted father, Martok, is dead and replaced by his enemy. The House of Duras is once again on the rise. And yet, where is he? On Qo'nos, having abandoned the Federation and cut his ties with it. Clearly he has some really good reasons for leaving behind his entire life to live in a society he has repeatedly rejected in the past.
Yeah... his "personal reasons" are that Cryptic felt the KDF needed at least one recognizable character to legitimize it.
What?! I bet they already have a plan to deal with the Undine AND the Iconians and we are unknowingly already carrying it out. That's how the greatest heroes of the Federation roll.
Edit: Hmm, maybe Cryptic can take a pae out of Blizzard's book and we can have a new ground FA where you attack an Undine/Iconian occupied Qo'nos and take down a J'mpok impostor.
If you're looking for an Undine in Starfleet Command, I'd suggest Admiral T'Nae on Starbase 39 Sierra.
1. She wears a Command division colour uniform, but with a Science division combadge.
2. She wears no rank insignia.
3. She sends the player out on missions that seem solely designed to driving the Federation and Romulans into a full scale war, including a pre-emptive raid on the Romulan capital world, and the mission where the Undine Zelle is able to destroy the Romulan anti-Undine research, and then infiltrate the Romulan military.
4. She's in two places at once - the Admiral's office on Starbase 39 Sierra, and the bank room on Drozana Station.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
What?! I bet they already have a plan to deal with the Undine AND the Iconians and we are unknowingly already carrying it out. That's how the greatest heroes of the Federation roll.
Edit: Hmm, maybe Cryptic can take a pae out of Blizzard's book and we can have a new ground FA where you attack an Undine/Iconian occupied Qo'nos and take down a J'mpok impostor.
or a Raid on section 31 main base where we find out that they are behind the whole thing
and that the Iconians NEVER existed at all being merely a Boogieman
or a Raid on section 31 main base where we find out that they are behind the whole thing
and that the Iconians NEVER existed at all being merely a Boogieman
Drake is DEFINATELY a bad guy
Drake is a bad guy, but as The Operative from Serenity fight for his Alliance in the shadow, he fight for the Federation in the shadow.
He know his means are questionable and immoral, he only care that they serve the end which is the preservation of the Federation.
I think most fans of TNG understand that the writers loved to manufacture moral crisis out of what would be common sense decisions. All too often Picard had to be an idiot for the sake of the plot and the manufactured drama.
Thankfully DS9 had a lot fewer instances where the captain had to be a total moron thinking he was high minded when in reality he was being an idiot.
That's because TNG was during peacetime and DS9 was during a war. The lines become more blurred in wartime than in a time of peace.
They know
All 31 agents are undine
always were in most cases
Actually, that would explain why 31 is always turning to Starfleet to bail them out. The Devidians, that crazy Vulcan scientist (Doe anyone else have the clone of a 31 operative aboard their ship?) that dishonorable ambassador with a time traveling Raptor and a planet killer, the True Way warships that keep knocking out 31's deep space detection network, etc. Since when has 31 been this ineffective. I thought they were the ones that handled the jobs Starfleet could not, not the other way around.
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I'd love to see the look on S31's faces if they suddenly found out that Drake was an Undine.
All 31 agents are undine
always were in most cases
My character Tsin'xing
I would say, given the actions of the Federation Council regarding the Klingon's efforts against the Undine, that this is almost entirely justified.
This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
that was just an end of the world myth
Yeah... his "personal reasons" are that Cryptic felt the KDF needed at least one recognizable character to legitimize it.
What?! I bet they already have a plan to deal with the Undine AND the Iconians and we are unknowingly already carrying it out. That's how the greatest heroes of the Federation roll.
Edit: Hmm, maybe Cryptic can take a pae out of Blizzard's book and we can have a new ground FA where you attack an Undine/Iconian occupied Qo'nos and take down a J'mpok impostor.
1. She wears a Command division colour uniform, but with a Science division combadge.
2. She wears no rank insignia.
3. She sends the player out on missions that seem solely designed to driving the Federation and Romulans into a full scale war, including a pre-emptive raid on the Romulan capital world, and the mission where the Undine Zelle is able to destroy the Romulan anti-Undine research, and then infiltrate the Romulan military.
4. She's in two places at once - the Admiral's office on Starbase 39 Sierra, and the bank room on Drozana Station.
This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
or a Raid on section 31 main base where we find out that they are behind the whole thing
and that the Iconians NEVER existed at all being merely a Boogieman
Drake is DEFINATELY a bad guy
He know his means are questionable and immoral, he only care that they serve the end which is the preservation of the Federation.
That's because TNG was during peacetime and DS9 was during a war. The lines become more blurred in wartime than in a time of peace.
Actually, that would explain why 31 is always turning to Starfleet to bail them out. The Devidians, that crazy Vulcan scientist (Doe anyone else have the clone of a 31 operative aboard their ship?) that dishonorable ambassador with a time traveling Raptor and a planet killer, the True Way warships that keep knocking out 31's deep space detection network, etc. Since when has 31 been this ineffective. I thought they were the ones that handled the jobs Starfleet could not, not the other way around.
The "operative"
was a type three sociopath (as in he likes to hurt people)
he was an enemy of all organic life
the Alliance needs taking down
they turn children into WEAPONS