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Someone needs to kill J'Mpok
jcp26
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Someone really needs to kill High Chancellor J'Mpok. The Seventh Fleet would probably not have been wiped out by the Borg if they had not lost over half their strength at the battle of Starbase 24, including their carriers, commanding general, and a third of their battleships. The Fifth Fleet took a similar pounding in the Laurentian System and the Sixth Fleet was forced to withdraw due to heavy losses. A Klingon player will have to fill in the Federation loses, but J'Mpok's paranoia about the Federation is bleeding both sides dry. He would rather turn to the shattered Romulan Empire for allies rather than the much stronger Federation. As long as J'Mpok lives, the Federation and the Empire will continue to bleed each other dry until neither is capable of defending itself from the real bad guys, the Borg, the Undine, the Tholians and the Iconians. If we are to survive the current conflicts, J'Mpok must die so that the two major powers can point every ship, facility, resource, weapon, and soldier at our true enemies instead of each other.
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three times they had the chance to zero the borg and three times they chose not to
That's because J'Mpok is an Iconian agent.
So you would let the Empire burn out of SPITE! Yes, the Federation dropped the ball. Now we are trying to correct that. We even launched an assault on the unicomplex itself. BTW, the Klingon players cut and ran while the Federation players remained and finished off the Unicomplex. Was it not Khales who said "Losing an Empire to win a battle is not victory". That is exactly what J'Mpok is doing.
You're just now figuring this out? I thought we all found out that he and Quin were imposters years ago.
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kill them then
forget all this "rescue and save" and "ethics" and take them OUT
Piccard could have done away with them TOTALLY
he chose not to (because he was still more than half borg)
next time you have the chance complete the STF and STOP with a victory
Id like to see the pointless borg removed from this game
perhaps you should support that
and no "the klingons " did not run away
some people pretending to be klingons might have
as to iconian/undine plants admiral Quinn and ALL omega force officers seem to be
That way it would make sense to ally the feds and klingons, as well as reinforce the new aggressor faction with a lot of NPC allies.
Though numbers only really matter when theres FvF PvP and there really isn't in this game.... Cryptic sucks balls at gooed PvP of any meaning. Especially with their new proposed garbage for the new PvP.
"Second star on the right, and straight on till morning."
U.S.S. Weatherlight
There's a reason the Federation sticks to it's morals: they're better than eradicating races like the Borg, regardless of their danger, unless they have no other choice (and no, their simple existance does not fall under that category)
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Evidence
1 he puts lt's in command of starships
2 he is too stupid to spot undine infiltrators and has you ferry them round the galaxy
3 if you adjust the camera angle you can see that while seated at his desk his legs stick through the floor (definately an undine trait)
4 he still has not ordered me to Quantum the hell out of Q
Actually, my Whedon plot twist sense says Linnea or Winters is an imposter who's framing Quinn. And that Quinn will get killed unjustly before we catch Linnea. (Never trust someone who shows up, claiming to be an Ocampa.)
Meanwhile, J'mpok being an Undine makes no sense, either with the number of Undine he's killed or what purpose it would serve taking the actions he's taken.
However, he probably cheated in his duel with Martok (I'm guessing poison blade for the Hamlet allusion) and is allied with the Tal Shiar, given that he's backed by houses with Romulan Tal Shiar ties.
If you read the backstory datalogs, he was a guy who kept getting shot down until he found the favor of Duras and the Orions. So I'm thinking the Tal Shiar backed him and the Orion Syndicate blackmailed him until he made a connection (implication he's been "seeing" the sister of the Orion Syndicate leader) and agreed to back their shady criminal operations. And he's using the 500 Orion slaves he brought in for all the top Klingon officials to brainwash basically everyone in the government.
No. He decided against it because of the little matter of genocide.
He was rescued from the Collective.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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WHAT THE ****:eek: What mission was that? Is that a Klingon mission?
And hmm, the man-behind-the-man scenario would seem like a shocking swerve, considering Quinn/J'mpok have a lot of the signs of being Undine. I'd kinda like that to happen myself
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Genocide (a Greek word) means something very specific
it has no bearing on the borg (who are not a species a race or a group they are a disease)
ok simple metaphor
a scientist has sitting on his desk the last flask of Ebola virus on earth
if he heats this flask Ebola no longer exists
if he does not then it will eventually leak out and people will die
should he heat the flask??
and no one is ever REALLY rescued from the collective
a full copy of his mind remained behind and he remained part borg for life
Dude, I've been killing every Borg that I encounter. I even blew the Queen to hell. They just keep coming. Next time we eliminate the Queen, we should deploy every ship in Starfleet and the KDF to conduct well cooridinated, galaxy wide attacks against the Collective. With the Queen temporarily dead, the whole collective will be thrown into chaos and disorder. If we can coordinate our forces, we can wipe them out. We'd need the Dominion to cooperate in the Gamma Quadrant and the major powers in the Delta Quadrant, but it could be done, theoretically. Track them all, kill the Queen, conduct quick strikes to wipe out the Borg while they are disorganized.
send one back to zero the Borg Before they are the Borg
as to Q
he is Mortal and can be KILLED
especially while on ESD
he is split between four places and thus is weakened
we also know he can be hurt
A Quantum torpedo up the nose will take him out
there is no such thing as invincible
and Q lost a fist fight to Sisko
so he is WEAKER than an unfit human
What ever you want to call it, the Borg are a race, and wiping them out is genocide.
I'm not arguing the ethics of the 'genocide', I would wipe them all out in Picards place, but he chose not to.
He wasn't part borg any more, all cybernetics where removed, doctor Crusher confirmed it.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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and Q was in human form, so he had human weaknesses, and human levels of resistance... ie NOTHING compared to his true self. Really, are you that dumb?
Okay, scratch that, I don't need to ask... because the answer's obvious that you are
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
One, when would the Borg not be Borg? Two, Q in his annoying way is trying to help. Like when he sent us back to Wolf 359 to save Sisko. I think he actually is afraid of the Iconians. I'm not sure why, since he can turn you into a dog by nodding his head.
I know they're both named Q, but it still needed to be said
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
He's the only Q in the game. You can't torp the other Q, he's not around to torp.
and a quantum torpedo is a hell of a surprise
Q is only a minor being
little more than an annoyance
but if we killed him the Q would avoid us there after
as to the Borg they are not a species they meet non of the requirements to be called one
AND wiping them out is a kindness
Wait a Fracking minute:mad: Janeway DID try to zero the Borg. That's why the Task Force was disbanded in the mid 2380's. They thought that she had done it. That Virus that killed the Queen and blew up the Unicomplex. It's why we were caught so off guard during the invasion of Vega Colony. You spend two or three decades believing the Borg are extinct, and they suddenly show up on your doorstep.
That's actually not all that odd. Ensigns have commanded ships in certain situations. Or even Non-Coms. It's just the highest ranked person on the ship or the person assigned to command it.
"Second star on the right, and straight on till morning."
U.S.S. Weatherlight
get real. Q has reflexes and abilities far above our own, even when taking forms; the only reason he's in our form is provide amusement to us and himself by doing so.
and avoid us? oh, please, we're insects to them, and the moment we bite them, we're dead, permanently.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
as to when are the borg not the borg
Species 1 who ever they were could be dealt with hell in the interests of the cosmos we could take out species 1-10
They are a species, they are referred to as such throughout the films and series they appear in.
Picard judged it to be kinder to let them live.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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as to picard he was not competent to make the decision
Who are you referring to? Seven? She's not Borg anymore.