they are no more a species than manchester united fans
as to picard he was not competent to make the decision
Manchester United fans are quite a good metaphor for the Borg actually:D
"You will become like us, resistance is futile".
He was, you might as well say the He wasn't competent to make a decision on the Ferengi, as he once had his mind messed with by a Ferengi.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
And how would that result in the rebirth of the Collective? The only way that would work is if the Queen possessed Seven's body, which I'm sure someone would have noticed. Possession reconstructs the body into the form of the Queen. That is how she always returns.
Because let's face it, he uses his own circular logic and his own little world. And the moment I told him how Q works, the little bit we humans can perceive, he doesn't respond And when he does, he'll go in circles for his opinion, having not listened.
Moving on; the Iconians are probably in another dimension, just like the Undine. I know that's fairly obvious, but it's clearly an entirely different one than the Undine's realm or the Mirror Universe.
And you know, this kinda reminds me of the Seraphim from Supreme Commander One extra-dimensional colony gone, and the rest are pissed off, with lots of mysterious qualties to them.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Moving on; the Iconians are probably in another dimension, just like the Undine. I know that's fairly obvious, but it's clearly an entirely different one than the Undine's realm or the Mirror Universe.
And you know, this kinda reminds me of the Seraphim from Supreme Commander One extra-dimensional colony gone, and the rest are pissed off, with lots of mysterious qualties to them.
I think it would be better if J'Pok and Quinn or The Fed Presdent turned out to be Iconion agents rather than 8472 agents.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I think it would be better if J'Pok and Quinn or The Fed Presdent turned out to be Iconion agents rather than 8472 agents.
True, true, but so far as we know, we don't know if they have shape-shifting abilities All we've seen so far is multiple versions of their gateway tech, and two ships... and that's about it
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
And picard clearly showed he was incompetent to deal with the ferengi by being captured by them
and anyone who has EVER had a borg implant is not command competent (and indeed should be in a maximum security tech free penal colony)
After he was captured in Last Outpost, his decisions regarding the Ferengi never lead to problems.
The implants where removed, no bits of Borg left. His competency was intact, look at every other Borg episode after his assimilation, how many times does he mess up?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
J'Pok is like the Kahless Clone, it's just around, doesn't do much but at least he's in the game as opposed to the Federation President who's no where to be seen, living the life in Paris.
True, true, but so far as we know, we don't know if they have shape-shifting abilities
Sorry, agents OF the Iconions rather than actual Iconions .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
True, true, but so far as we know, we don't know if they have shape-shifting abilities All we've seen so far is multiple versions of their gateway tech, and two ships... and that's about it
I think, upon replaying Cloaked Intentions, that we need to find out what, specifically, the Iconians are offering the Tal Shiar and other followers. Thus far, it's been "You don't comprehend their power. Only those who side with them will live!"
I'd like a bit more specificity. It's hard to buy the whole Tal Shiar going Cthulu cult nutters unless:
- The Iconians use mind control. (Possibility I'd considered before, even in a Foundry mission. There's circumstantial evidence for this in the two episodes that reference them.)
- The Iconians are making a good offer. Not just "join us or die" but with some tangible perks for siding with them.
After he was captured in Last Outpost, his decisions regarding the Ferengi never lead to problems.
The implants where removed, no bits of Borg left. His competency was intact, look at every other Borg episode after his assimilation, how many times does he mess up?
His Borg implants are only part of the problem (he was cyborg for all the time we saw him actually)
he keeps messing up
He refuses to eliminate the borg
he freaks out in first contact
and Borg is also a state of mind
once part of the collective even for a minute you are never safe again
look at the other victims like Neelix
His Borg implants are only part of the problem (he was cyborg for all the time we saw him actually)
he keeps messing up
He refuses to eliminate the borg
he freaks out in first contact
He wasn't. All the cybernetics where removed, all of them, hence no cyborg anymore.
Refusing to commit genocide isn't a bad decision, if He was in Section 31, maybe, but He was in Starfleet, so it was a good decision.
The Borg in FC had just wiped out Earths future and the Enterprise was it's last hope and the Borg where on the verge of destroying that, assimilated in the past or not, Picard reacted just as any other Captain in Trek would have done.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
He wasn't. All the cybernetics where removed, all of them, hence no cyborg anymore.
Then how could he hear (and he literally said "I can hear them") the collective when there is not a single implant left?
We've seen several ex-drones, especially on Voyager.
And none of them was shown with all of the technology removed.
Given that the Borg don't just add stuff to the body but also regularly replace stuff, this is harldy surprising.
It's questionable whether someone that has been assimilated could actually survive when everything was removed.
you forget that as an energy being he is inferior to real life in many ways
every action he takes weakens him AND reality
plus you assume they can destroy us
unlikely
We are Humanity
they are merely a tail end of a dead race
one day we will surpass them
do you think that the H would allow the Q to interfere?
when the H are a million times more powerful (and better dressed)
So what is your sources that claim the Q's Son Q is vulnerable to being killed by "ordinary" means? Voyager? He got his powers back after it was over. When a Q is powerless, he probably can be killed normally yes, but this Q in Winter Wonderland IS NOT POWERLESS.
Because let's face it, he uses his own circular logic and his own little world. And the moment I told him how Q works, the little bit we humans can perceive, he doesn't respond And when he does, he'll go in circles for his opinion, having not listened.
Moving on; the Iconians are probably in another dimension, just like the Undine. I know that's fairly obvious, but it's clearly an entirely different one than the Undine's realm or the Mirror Universe.
And you know, this kinda reminds me of the Seraphim from Supreme Commander One extra-dimensional colony gone, and the rest are pissed off, with lots of mysterious qualties to them.
That would be interesting, but they don't have to be from another dimension. There are many galaxies out there. They could just be waiting in a nearby galaxy, gathering their full strength. And do you not remember Q standing in front of three Borg Cubes and saying "what are you going to do, point your little toy phasers at me?" Does no one else remember that. It happened. Humanform Q standing in the vacuum of space and daring you to shoot him. If you did, he would probably just stand there looking bored and saying "That all you got?" You can't kill Q. Not with standard weapons anyway. You'd need something a lot stronger than a quantum torp.
That would be interesting, but they don't have to be from another dimension. There are many galaxies out there. They could just be waiting in a nearby galaxy, gathering their full strength. And do you not remember Q standing in front of three Borg Cubes and saying "what are you going to do, point your little toy phasers at me?" Does no one else remember that. It happened. Humanform Q standing in the vacuum of space and daring you to shoot him. If you did, he would probably just stand there looking bored and saying "That all you got?" You can't kill Q. Not with standard weapons anyway. You'd need something a lot stronger than a quantum torp.
Try telling that to our current Trollvax, but I wouldn't recommend it :P He's like a black hole in regards to anything but his own little world
We all remember that, and know better about Q. He (vax) is just in denial
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
observe when one of her nanites interacts with the holoemitter
instant superborg
anyone she infects becomes borg
and as to the Queen
Seven was half way to a queen already
but the borg do not need a queen
they function with or without one
And picard clearly showed he was incompetent to deal with the ferengi by being captured by them
and anyone who has EVER had a borg implant is not command competent (and indeed should be in a maximum security tech free penal colony)
Finally, an explanation that actually works. Well done. It would also explain why the borg at Vega Colony were so unborg like. Shoot first, assimilate never? They were not true borg.
and its not genocide
what the borg do is Genocide on a massive scale
the cardassians tried on bajor as well
but the borg are NOT a people or species or race they are a bunch of Screaming trapped souls in long dead bodies
Anyone assimilated is already Worse than dead
The Borg are a race, and it is genocide, if you don't believe that just substitute the words whenever you read them to mass murder, and erm not species.
Also the Borg bodies are not dead.
Then how could he hear (and he literally said "I can hear them") the collective when there is not a single implant left?
We've seen several ex-drones, especially on Voyager.
And none of them was shown with all of the technology removed.
Given that the Borg don't just add stuff to the body but also regularly replace stuff, this is hardly surprising.
It's questionable whether someone that has been assimilated could actually survive when everything was removed.
Doctor Crusher cleanly states all cybernetics where removed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I think that J'Mpok is the best thing to happen to the KDF since Worf killed the last remaining "Full Blooded," rightful heir to the House of Duras. Although I understand that J'Mpok also supports that house as well, I don't consider it a conflict of interest.
2 he is too stupid to spot undine infiltrators and has you ferry them round the galaxy
There were only two one which wasn't reveled until the originals body was found with the only thing hinting at it before this was (post remastering) some personality changes which could have just be stress and Klingons just showing up and accusing the person of it without any evidence to back it up which given their track record is pretty iffy.
The other one was an Admiral on Starbase 39 Sierra which Quinn had nothing to do with at all.
4 he still has not ordered me to Quantum the hell out of Q
Q is more of an annoyance than a threat. Plus attacking him would be suicide if it didn't just amuse him.
I don't really get this Quinn is a bad guy thing seeing as he was the one who ordered you to provide security to an attempted peace conference which B'vat would have wrecked if you hadn't been there as well as generally giving you missions to stop that nutcase afterwards.
Standing in front of three cubes HE created is no test
lets see him go 30 seconds in battle with an enraged (lost wallet enraged) ferengi
and Q bluffs he lies he fibs
his power is 99% illusion
plus this Q is not a true Q he is a "spawn of Q"
as to killing him
A silver tip high explosive round will kill ANYTHING
(including werewolves the Q and the God Loki who after all is Q's spiritual Grand dad)
Standing in front of three cubes HE created is no test
lets see him go 30 seconds in battle with an enraged (lost wallet enraged) ferengi
and Q bluffs he lies he fibs
his power is 99% illusion
plus this Q is not a true Q he is a "spawn of Q"
as to killing him
A silver tip high explosive round will kill ANYTHING
(including werewolves the Q and the God Loki who after all is Q's spiritual Grand dad)
That Vulcan incense doing you good?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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you don't quit the CIA or leave the collective
the nanoprobes in her blood ARE the borg
Manchester United fans are quite a good metaphor for the Borg actually:D
"You will become like us, resistance is futile".
He was, you might as well say the He wasn't competent to make a decision on the Ferengi, as he once had his mind messed with by a Ferengi.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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And how would that result in the rebirth of the Collective? The only way that would work is if the Queen possessed Seven's body, which I'm sure someone would have noticed. Possession reconstructs the body into the form of the Queen. That is how she always returns.
Because let's face it, he uses his own circular logic and his own little world. And the moment I told him how Q works, the little bit we humans can perceive, he doesn't respond
Moving on; the Iconians are probably in another dimension, just like the Undine. I know that's fairly obvious, but it's clearly an entirely different one than the Undine's realm or the Mirror Universe.
And you know, this kinda reminds me of the Seraphim from Supreme Commander
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
observe when one of her nanites interacts with the holoemitter
instant superborg
anyone she infects becomes borg
and as to the Queen
Seven was half way to a queen already
but the borg do not need a queen
they function with or without one
And picard clearly showed he was incompetent to deal with the ferengi by being captured by them
and anyone who has EVER had a borg implant is not command competent (and indeed should be in a maximum security tech free penal colony)
I think it would be better if J'Pok and Quinn or The Fed Presdent turned out to be Iconion agents rather than 8472 agents.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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The Q can die
this Q is weaker than most
and his death would shatter the continum utterly
you forget that as an energy being he is inferior to real life in many ways
every action he takes weakens him AND reality
plus you assume they can destroy us
unlikely
We are Humanity
they are merely a tail end of a dead race
one day we will surpass them
do you think that the H would allow the Q to interfere?
when the H are a million times more powerful (and better dressed)
After he was captured in Last Outpost, his decisions regarding the Ferengi never lead to problems.
The implants where removed, no bits of Borg left. His competency was intact, look at every other Borg episode after his assimilation, how many times does he mess up?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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Sorry, agents OF the Iconions rather than actual Iconions
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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I think, upon replaying Cloaked Intentions, that we need to find out what, specifically, the Iconians are offering the Tal Shiar and other followers. Thus far, it's been "You don't comprehend their power. Only those who side with them will live!"
I'd like a bit more specificity. It's hard to buy the whole Tal Shiar going Cthulu cult nutters unless:
- The Iconians use mind control. (Possibility I'd considered before, even in a Foundry mission. There's circumstantial evidence for this in the two episodes that reference them.)
- The Iconians are making a good offer. Not just "join us or die" but with some tangible perks for siding with them.
His Borg implants are only part of the problem (he was cyborg for all the time we saw him actually)
he keeps messing up
He refuses to eliminate the borg
he freaks out in first contact
and Borg is also a state of mind
once part of the collective even for a minute you are never safe again
look at the other victims like Neelix
He wasn't. All the cybernetics where removed, all of them, hence no cyborg anymore.
Refusing to commit genocide isn't a bad decision, if He was in Section 31, maybe, but He was in Starfleet, so it was a good decision.
The Borg in FC had just wiped out Earths future and the Enterprise was it's last hope and the Borg where on the verge of destroying that, assimilated in the past or not, Picard reacted just as any other Captain in Trek would have done.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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he has an artificial heart
and its not genocide
what the borg do is Genocide on a massive scale
the cardassians tried on bajor as well
but the borg are NOT a people or species or race they are a bunch of Screaming trapped souls in long dead bodies
Anyone assimilated is already Worse than dead
Then how could he hear (and he literally said "I can hear them") the collective when there is not a single implant left?
We've seen several ex-drones, especially on Voyager.
And none of them was shown with all of the technology removed.
Given that the Borg don't just add stuff to the body but also regularly replace stuff, this is harldy surprising.
It's questionable whether someone that has been assimilated could actually survive when everything was removed.
That would be interesting, but they don't have to be from another dimension. There are many galaxies out there. They could just be waiting in a nearby galaxy, gathering their full strength. And do you not remember Q standing in front of three Borg Cubes and saying "what are you going to do, point your little toy phasers at me?" Does no one else remember that. It happened. Humanform Q standing in the vacuum of space and daring you to shoot him. If you did, he would probably just stand there looking bored and saying "That all you got?" You can't kill Q. Not with standard weapons anyway. You'd need something a lot stronger than a quantum torp.
We all remember that, and know better about Q. He (vax) is just in denial
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Finally, an explanation that actually works. Well done. It would also explain why the borg at Vega Colony were so unborg like. Shoot first, assimilate never? They were not true borg.
Oops:o I forgot about that.
The Borg are a race, and it is genocide, if you don't believe that just substitute the words whenever you read them to mass murder, and erm not species.
Also the Borg bodies are not dead.
Doctor Crusher cleanly states all cybernetics where removed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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Due to a personal shortage
There were only two one which wasn't reveled until the originals body was found with the only thing hinting at it before this was (post remastering) some personality changes which could have just be stress and Klingons just showing up and accusing the person of it without any evidence to back it up which given their track record is pretty iffy.
The other one was an Admiral on Starbase 39 Sierra which Quinn had nothing to do with at all.
Q is more of an annoyance than a threat. Plus attacking him would be suicide if it didn't just amuse him.
I don't really get this Quinn is a bad guy thing seeing as he was the one who ordered you to provide security to an attempted peace conference which B'vat would have wrecked if you hadn't been there as well as generally giving you missions to stop that nutcase afterwards.
Standing in front of three cubes HE created is no test
lets see him go 30 seconds in battle with an enraged (lost wallet enraged) ferengi
and Q bluffs he lies he fibs
his power is 99% illusion
plus this Q is not a true Q he is a "spawn of Q"
as to killing him
A silver tip high explosive round will kill ANYTHING
(including werewolves the Q and the God Loki who after all is Q's spiritual Grand dad)
There's a reason they call that brand "Insane Troll Logic" :P He may or may not use it to be one, but he certainly meets the requirements
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UMM, where?
Seriously, where? I can't find that statement.
That Vulcan incense doing you good?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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Remember the Q are afraid of humanity
they know we are destined to replace them
observe how they try to temp riker into betraying humanity for the illusions of the Q
As to the undine
Vulcans do not get angry
they do not order "no prisoners either"
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