This thread is getting a little serious, eh? It needs some dancing...
...dancing Klingons?
...dancing Klingons and Starfleet?
Coming together? Joy and harmony?
But whatever we are still out there, Noone challenge ous to premades and the people that play play in the ques as premade fleets would get owned anyhow, Still roleplaying and beating up pugs like they have any skill.
1. Tricobalt mines. We are sick and tired of being the victim of this, so we will now return the favour tenfold. Tricobalt mines with dispersal patterns will now be used more liberally.
I am sorry, but if you guys really walk the tric path, then TSI will no longer be considered a serious PVP fleet.
What is wrong with you? If you as a fleet have any self respect left, then you will not use trics.
Yes, dispersal trics are imbalanced and they allow lesser skilled individuals/fleets to score kills or even victories. But no serious person in the pvp community respects such people anyway.
Sure some of ous dont play with boat full of garbage consoles but some do and that is just fine.
How can that be fine?! Why is it so difficult for you guys to lay out some rules of conduct and sticking to it? Are you guys 12 year olds or are you adults?
What the hell is this?! Again, I have to ask, are you guys serious?!
Before you guys mock other fleets, I'd like ask if TSI even has a ready premade anymore. How many times in the last 4 months or so did you guys have 5 members online simultaneously?
and the people play play in the ques as premade fleets would get owned anyhow, Still roleplaying and beating up pugs like they have any skill.
By now I have seen TSI in action and judging by what I have witnessed I have to say that sounds like a very arrogant statement. If you had so much skill, why is Devoras complaining about being blown up by trics then?
1. Tricobalt mines. We are sick and tired of being the victim of this, so we will now return the favour tenfold. Tricobalt mines with dispersal patterns will now be used more liberally.
This is why I'm not a fan of TSI. You guys have good enough players to not have to resort to cheese, yet you always seem to find an excuse to run it anyways. Oh, and when I was pugging the other day I got you as a team mate. You saw we were up against a premade and warped out leaving us to fight a 4v5premade. That must be another one of your advanced tactics.
4. No, we will not use cheesy skills like AMS and that sorts. We are still above that and if we do use it, its likely a single "cheap" console, and not a whole loadout like many others use.
My last post in this godforsaken ****up. And i know i shouldnt be saying this and will be slammed for it, but done is done so might as well finish it.
1. Sick and tired of being called arrogant. How are we arrogant? Because we know we are among the best? Hell, we are, but we dont need to brag about it. So the arrogant remark comes from others, likely used to denote us cause other fleets cant do the same as we, without resorting to p2w stuff. Sure we are as guilty with it, but I bet most of us can do without.
2. The need to suffer the very things we upheld for so long not to use, only to have other fleet use it against us. And no way, thats fair game for them! Happend to us too often and sick of the hypocrisy.
3. Tired of hearing people justify p2w consoles and make up rules which limits what we can and cannot do, and hence preventing growth. Hell back in 1.2 we used what we could use because we knew we could win and evolve from it. Now its all you cant do this you cant do that cause its >insert excuse here<. And yet, people complain about p2w....
You wonder why Era, Aythani, Faithborn, Linty, Bio and the others left so we cant field 5 mans as before? Well NOW you know!
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
Didn't you hear? They're replacing their sci captains with snb doffs.
its the same, but not really the same. i will always question doff choices that blur the role of your captain type/ship combo.
no kidding, its a great doff, and expensive for a reason. but, you have to wonder where the role in the battlefield comes into play, or if you are just spamming what you know will win based on current game mechanics.
and that, as you see, is one of the great divides in our PVP community.
This thread is getting a little serious, eh? It needs some dancing...
...dancing Klingons?
...dancing Klingons and Starfleet?
Coming together? Joy and harmony?
Or how about that oneday to be a classic southern Klingon hit.....
" Im going down Ker'rat, Im looking for some PewPew. "
But honestly, as I would say if it was Panda, TSI, Turkish, SOB or whom ever - do what you feel you have to do. Take your stand if you feel it is right and just to do so.
I will fight you if I see you all the same as I have before and have no less an ego pity party for myself than I ever have before.
Its all about the PewPew
It will suck at times but what life without challenges
My last post in this godforsaken ****up. And i know i shouldnt be saying this and will be slammed for it, but done is done so might as well finish it.
1. Sick and tired of being called arrogant. How are we arrogant? Because we know we are among the best? Hell, we are, but we dont need to brag about it. So the arrogant remark comes from others, likely used to denote us cause other fleets cant do the same as we, without resorting to p2w stuff. Sure we are as guilty with it, but I bet most of us can do without.
2. The need to suffer the very things we upheld for so long not to use, only to have other fleet use it against us. And no way, thats fair game for them! Happend to us too often and sick of the hypocrisy.
3. Tired of hearing people justify p2w consoles and make up rules which limits what we can and cannot do, and hence preventing growth. Hell back in 1.2 we used what we could use because we knew we could win and evolve from it. Now its all you cant do this you cant do that cause its >insert excuse here<. And yet, people complain about p2w....
You wonder why Era, Aythani, Faithborn, Linty, Bio and the others left so we cant field 5 mans as before? Well NOW you know!
You are arrogant because you posted a thread in which you stated... YOU all are running BS so beware your betters are going to do it to now. LMAO... come on this thread is one of the most arrogant rants I have heard in a long time. Frankly there are only 2 TSI players still playing that DO not run Cheese. They both have sort of posted here saying this was ill advised.
You know you are the best ??? I hate to break it to you, I have played against tons of "new" as in started after f2p... that frankly are better players, then anyone that was in TSI back in "the day". I would also say to you this... and anyone that has played TSI members... (frankly I think most of the TSI members know this is true as well)... There has ONLY ever been 7 good players in TSI... Yes I will name names
ERA
HILBERT
ROCK
LINTY
ZORENA
SANTA (No I will not use his stupid fed name... and he was good despite his need to build around broken TRIBBLE)
MaiKai
Not trying to hurt your feelings... but when you trade the TSI name, for cred. You are trading on the reps THOSE individuals build as solid top of the game players. At this point as far as I know only 2 of those people still play STO. If you want that kinda of respect with out those folks you should work more on building some on your own.
My last post in this godforsaken ****up. And i know i shouldnt be saying this and will be slammed for it, but done is done so might as well finish it.
1. Sick and tired of being called arrogant. How are we arrogant? Because we know we are among the best? Hell, we are, but we dont need to brag about it. So the arrogant remark comes from others, likely used to denote us cause other fleets cant do the same as we, without resorting to p2w stuff. Sure we are as guilty with it, but I bet most of us can do without.
so your trash talking other fleets for using p2w items to keep up with you (which isn't in the least bit an arrogant remark), but you guys use it yourself?
2. The need to suffer the very things we upheld for so long not to use, only to have other fleet use it against us. And no way, thats fair game for them! Happend to us too often and sick of the hypocrisy.
you CAN'T say you upheld anything when you guys HAVE been using it..
3. Tired of hearing people justify p2w consoles and make up rules which limits what we can and cannot do, and hence preventing growth. Hell back in 1.2 we used what we could use because we knew we could win and evolve from it. Now its all you cant do this you cant do that cause its >insert excuse here<. And yet, people complain about p2w....
your ******** about the the very thing you were so proud to have "upheld" in the previous paragraph. Which way is it?
You wonder why Era, Aythani, Faithborn, Linty, Bio and the others left so we cant field 5 mans as before? Well NOW you know!
I think they left because the game sucks, not due to forum bullying.
You are arrogant because you posted a thread in which you stated... YOU all are running BS so beware your betters are going to do it to now. LMAO... come on this thread is one of the most arrogant rants I have heard in a long time. Frankly there are only 2 TSI players still playing that DO not run Cheese. They both have sort of posted here saying this was ill advised.
You know you are the best ??? I hate to break it to you, I have played against tons of "new" as in started after f2p... that frankly are better players, then anyone that was in TSI back in "the day". I would also say to you this... and anyone that has played TSI members... (frankly I think most of the TSI members know this is true as well)... There has ONLY ever been 7 good players in TSI... Yes I will name names
ERA
HILBERT
ROCK
LINTY
ZORENA
SANTA (No I will not use his stupid fed name... and he was good despite his need to build around broken TRIBBLE)
MaiKai
Not trying to hurt your feelings... but when you trade the TSI name, for cred. You are trading on the reps THOSE individuals build as solid top of the game players. At this point as far as I know only 2 of those people still play STO. If you want that kinda of respect with out those folks you should work more on building some on your own.
I will fight you if I see you all the same as I have before and have no less an ego pity party for myself than I ever have before.
Its all about the PewPew
It will suck at times but what life without challenges
Pretty much that...just don't brag sort of thing, eh?
Dookie happens during PewPew... but it's all about the PewPew.
My last post in this godforsaken ****up. And i know i shouldnt be saying this and will be slammed for it, but done is done so might as well finish it.
1. Sick and tired of being called arrogant. How are we arrogant? Because we know we are among the best? Hell, we are, but we dont need to brag about it. So the arrogant remark comes from others, likely used to denote us cause other fleets cant do the same as we, without resorting to p2w stuff. Sure we are as guilty with it, but I bet most of us can do without.
2. The need to suffer the very things we upheld for so long not to use, only to have other fleet use it against us. And no way, thats fair game for them! Happend to us too often and sick of the hypocrisy.
3. Tired of hearing people justify p2w consoles and make up rules which limits what we can and cannot do, and hence preventing growth. Hell back in 1.2 we used what we could use because we knew we could win and evolve from it. Now its all you cant do this you cant do that cause its >insert excuse here<. And yet, people complain about p2w....
You wonder why Era, Aythani, Faithborn, Linty, Bio and the others left so we cant field 5 mans as before? Well NOW you know!
Well, according to Hilberts reply in this thread you guys maybe didn't discuss it enough?!
I am sorry, but if you guys really walk the tric path, then TSI will no longer be considered a serious PVP fleet.
What is wrong with you? If you as a fleet have any self respect left, then you will not use trics.
Yes, dispersal trics are imbalanced and they allow lesser skilled individuals/fleets to score kills or even victories. But no serious person in the pvp community respects such people anyway.
How can that be fine?! Why is it so difficult for you guys to lay out some rules of conduct and sticking to it? Are you guys 12 year olds or are you adults?
What the hell is this?! Again, I have to ask, are you guys serious?!
Before you guys mock other fleets, I'd like ask if TSI even has a ready premade anymore. How many times in the last 4 months or so did you guys have 5 members online simultaneously?
By now I have seen TSI in action and judging by what I have witnessed I have to say that sounds like a very arrogant statement. If you had so much skill, why is Devoras complaining about being blown up by trics then?
I think they left because the game sucks, not due to forum bullying.
thats the truth, some TSI members would be more then happy to come back if the game was worth comming back too. but guild wars 2 has showed their pvp soul what REAL pvp can be like.
Devoras posted this thread without discussing it with everyone.
as a Co-Leader of TSI I do not approve of this thread.
also, i use tricobalt mines and dispersal pattern 2 on my timeship. it works, it kills things, the only thing i think needs to change about it is the "one crit rules them all" codeing it has going on with it.
the trics fail more often then they work but when they work, it leaves a path of floaty bits around it.
i also use grav pulse (only the duration needs to be fixed), the subspace jump, the iso metric charge. these are my consoles of choice.
and no, my charged partical burst, iso metric charge and heavy grav beam do not all benifit from partical generators anymore -sad panda-
I do think some of us are arrogant, but in all seriousness... who isnt on these forums?
TSI is and always will be a fleet that lets its memebers use what they feel they need to if its in the game.
So all this not so much a travesty of some PvP by-law as a " going postal freak out moment".
Ive had those before. They iether suck or they are awesome.
Guess this is the former.
Besides I have used Tric mines as well when it suits me, just not with Dispersal Patterns of any type.
SANTA (No I will not use his stupid fed name... and he was good despite his need to build around broken TRIBBLE)
To be honest, I thought all my in-game names were stupid and I never used any builds that were outside of the accepted norm by the PVP community. I.E. at least 70% of the people I encountered used the abilities I used.
Anyways, yes. I left STO because of the TRIBBLE that was coming out and the general feeling of (I don't care about PVP at all) that was coming from the devs. I tried to stay, hell I even made my STO forum stuff look pretty, but the relentless money grabbing by the devs and lack of testing made it difficult for me to find a reason to stay despite my love for star trek and space.
If anyone is interested in PVP, come join me on Guild Wars 2 or Planetside 2. You won't find any P2W there or a lack of PVP support.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Aytanhi of TSI, TSI fleet founder and leader OrganizedPVP channel Admin Feel free to ask me about PVP or starship strategies. "No, I am not Borg!" /channel_join OrganizedPVP If you are interested in learning PVP, looking for a team, or a private match
By whom? Tricobalts are a bad idea because they aren't reliable enough. (And the whole stun and multiple hits from dispersal patterns thing is no fun either.) Who in their right mind would sacrifice a high-level tac slot on an escort for a dispersal pattern (and two weapon slots for the mines themselves) that will be easily countered by FAW and/or TBR?
How about you just post full details on all possible future premade setups that I have tossed around?
Why is it that someone always has to go to the forums and make completely stupid "from now on TSI will only run spam TRIBBLE" announcements? I have no intention of doing anything like that - not when Zorena announced it years ago and not now. And I hope that I'm not the only one in the fleet who thinks that way.
I would also say to you this... and anyone that has played TSI members... (frankly I think most of the TSI members know this is true as well)... There has ONLY ever been 7 good players in TSI... Yes I will name names
ERA
HILBERT
ROCK
LINTY
ZORENA
SANTA (No I will not use his stupid fed name... and he was good despite his need to build around broken TRIBBLE)
MaiKai
Not trying to hurt your feelings... but when you trade the TSI name, for cred. You are trading on the reps THOSE individuals build as solid top of the game players. At this point as far as I know only 2 of those people still play STO. If you want that kinda of respect with out those folks you should work more on building some on your own.
Only 7 good players? heh, I still play STO in my spare time, and I feel as though I am equal to any of the 7 players that you listed in terms of skill.
Only 7 good players? heh, I still play STO in my spare time, and I feel as though I am equal to any of the 7 players that you listed in terms of skill.
its no so much the "skill" of the people he listed as that it is those are the people when one thinks of "TSI PREMADE RUN AWAY!" if you saw any combo of those 5 you generally were gonna have a bad time.
This is at least the fourth version of this thread ive seen where TSI decides that they will now use all the cheese in the game. It's like the matrix - this has all happened before and will happen again.
Heres a STO history lesson - TSI has always and will always use cheese and exploits to win. I can't believe years later people still think otherwise. From Tactical Captain exploits to FAW to Torp Spread to whatever it is now, theyll use it. Dont believe otherwise.
TSI and Qew made a tournament ruleset with some restrictions, one of them being the one hit kill torp spread. We'd meet them in arena queues, beat them 15-0 under the tournament rules, only to have them come back literally 5 minutes later in the next game with the same 5 guys but this time with torp spread on their science ships.
They had to though. Someone said they have 7 good players. Thats a joke. They have 2. Rock and Era. Era keeps the team alive, and Rock blows things up. Everyone else is filler. Control rock with harrassment (power drains, turn speeder debuffs, tractor beams) and then TSI gets no kills. Thats why they had to use torp spread on their Sci ships to get any kills against us, because they only had 1 escort player that could do anything and he was easy to control.
Anyways, I cant believe theres still drama around this fleet. This topic is exactly what theyve been like the whole time.
We've thought about it, but the general feeling is that we enjoyed the game for what it was at the time, but none of us really want to see what it has become under the p2w design. I know I personally left on a high note with Stegi's going away event. If the game ever becomes competitive we'll look into it, but it seems it hasnt changed.
To Jorfy - I will be playing MWO, just not with you
Originally Posted by devorasx
Season 7 has provided lots of challenges and tribbleations, and TSI has been discussing among themselves far and wide. Season 7 has introduced new passives, a reputation grind, and a belief that escort online is somewhat still the motto of the game. So we would like to announce some new playstyle changes in our fleet to the community, and what we intend to do in hope of some favourable changes:
1. Tricobalt mines. We are sick and tired of being the victim of this, so we will now return the favour tenfold. Tricobalt mines with dispersal patterns will now be used more liberally.
2. Science ships. We have deemed after some disusscion that science ships and its science abilties is mostly redundant, easy to counter, easy to resist and the fact key science abilites can be used on other ships, that we will (mostly) not be using them any longer until Cryptic does some significant changes to science skills and its resistance. The Vesta was a welcome change, but most of us know its really an escort in science disguise, but a far weaker version.
3. Cruiser + Escorts = True love. Yes, tank and spank is the new deal. Stronger hull, can carry all the nessecary skills to survive, lots of dps, and not as paper thin and gimmicky as a science ship. But you say that science has the best shields. Yes shields are nice, but shields are easy to strip away by sheer dps alone, or even disables. Besides, a premade team knows that all what is needed is just to keep shields up and running that shield ammount really doesnt matter.
4. No, we will not use cheesy skills like AMS and that sorts. We are still above that and if we do use it, its likely a single "cheap" console, and not a whole loadout like many others use.
With this announcement we want to state an example to the developers on what and how we feel and think the game is going wrong and going good. Cya in space!
lol man sorry but you guys are just full of lol. i dont agree 100% of this post. ill edit later and put thought into what im going to say. but i would like to add, why dident you abuse trics sooner? dont tsi find the most broken stuff and abuse it to the max?
sencor scan? sub nuke? sorry but its not about all engys and escourts. i want that sci healer with vm. i want that sub nuke for your rsp. but to say sci no longer has a place is full of fail. i think you guys just use to run the most bs TRIBBLE and when that TRIBBLE took the nerf bat you guys were left in the dust gimped. your cruch has ben taken away and you cant adapt. but trics, ams and gp is bs. no skill in toys like that. but if its causing you not to have fun then take out sub nuke doffs. i think they would start to use skill when they figured out you got mad and took buffs away from them.
Join Date: Dec 2007Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
this is why i have no interest in premades, pvp pecking orders, the elite pvp fleets, and pvp dynastyes. what the hell are you all talking about anyway? are any of you having fun any more?
i am, because i know that being good at pvp, or even the best at it is not a tangible accomplishment. the only thing you can get out of it is enjoyment. i will always do what i think is fun first, and what is effective second. luckily, what i find fun through accident or force of will becomes effective in its own way, and much fun is had.
i think everyone needs to just forget this thread ever happened, and decide for yourselves just what is fair play and what isn't and let your builds reflect that. we all know what sucks the fun out of pvp, and it will never be ok with me to use any of it.
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This thread is getting a little serious, eh? It needs some dancing...
...dancing Klingons?
...dancing Klingons and Starfleet?
Coming together? Joy and harmony?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CayMeza487M
Yeah, they went there.
R.I.P
*Hammel Time Dances*
*gets elbow to back of head*
*rage quits*
*cries to girlfriend*
*gets dumped by girlfriend for moshing roach*
*cries a little again*
*drinks self to sleep*
Man I miss the QEW versus TSI threads.
I am sorry, but if you guys really walk the tric path, then TSI will no longer be considered a serious PVP fleet.
What is wrong with you? If you as a fleet have any self respect left, then you will not use trics.
Yes, dispersal trics are imbalanced and they allow lesser skilled individuals/fleets to score kills or even victories. But no serious person in the pvp community respects such people anyway.
How can that be fine?! Why is it so difficult for you guys to lay out some rules of conduct and sticking to it? Are you guys 12 year olds or are you adults?
What the hell is this?! Again, I have to ask, are you guys serious?!
Before you guys mock other fleets, I'd like ask if TSI even has a ready premade anymore. How many times in the last 4 months or so did you guys have 5 members online simultaneously?
By now I have seen TSI in action and judging by what I have witnessed I have to say that sounds like a very arrogant statement. If you had so much skill, why is Devoras complaining about being blown up by trics then?
TSI, what have you become?
Well, at least you still have some dignity left.
@DevolvedOne
Didn't you hear? They're replacing their sci captains with snb doffs.
@DevolvedOne
My last post in this godforsaken ****up. And i know i shouldnt be saying this and will be slammed for it, but done is done so might as well finish it.
1. Sick and tired of being called arrogant. How are we arrogant? Because we know we are among the best? Hell, we are, but we dont need to brag about it. So the arrogant remark comes from others, likely used to denote us cause other fleets cant do the same as we, without resorting to p2w stuff. Sure we are as guilty with it, but I bet most of us can do without.
2. The need to suffer the very things we upheld for so long not to use, only to have other fleet use it against us. And no way, thats fair game for them! Happend to us too often and sick of the hypocrisy.
3. Tired of hearing people justify p2w consoles and make up rules which limits what we can and cannot do, and hence preventing growth. Hell back in 1.2 we used what we could use because we knew we could win and evolve from it. Now its all you cant do this you cant do that cause its >insert excuse here<. And yet, people complain about p2w....
You wonder why Era, Aythani, Faithborn, Linty, Bio and the others left so we cant field 5 mans as before? Well NOW you know!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
its the same, but not really the same. i will always question doff choices that blur the role of your captain type/ship combo.
no kidding, its a great doff, and expensive for a reason. but, you have to wonder where the role in the battlefield comes into play, or if you are just spamming what you know will win based on current game mechanics.
and that, as you see, is one of the great divides in our PVP community.
have fun kill bad guys
When things are proven to be extremely OP in PvP they do get 'adjusted' it just takes 6 months.
That and the PvP community has about as easy of a time agreeing on what is OP and UP as a republican and a democrat on spending.
Or how about that oneday to be a classic southern Klingon hit.....
" Im going down Ker'rat, Im looking for some PewPew. "
But honestly, as I would say if it was Panda, TSI, Turkish, SOB or whom ever - do what you feel you have to do. Take your stand if you feel it is right and just to do so.
I will fight you if I see you all the same as I have before and have no less an ego pity party for myself than I ever have before.
Its all about the PewPew
It will suck at times but what life without challenges
R.I.P
You are arrogant because you posted a thread in which you stated... YOU all are running BS so beware your betters are going to do it to now. LMAO... come on this thread is one of the most arrogant rants I have heard in a long time. Frankly there are only 2 TSI players still playing that DO not run Cheese. They both have sort of posted here saying this was ill advised.
You know you are the best ??? I hate to break it to you, I have played against tons of "new" as in started after f2p... that frankly are better players, then anyone that was in TSI back in "the day". I would also say to you this... and anyone that has played TSI members... (frankly I think most of the TSI members know this is true as well)... There has ONLY ever been 7 good players in TSI... Yes I will name names
ERA
HILBERT
ROCK
LINTY
ZORENA
SANTA (No I will not use his stupid fed name... and he was good despite his need to build around broken TRIBBLE)
MaiKai
Not trying to hurt your feelings... but when you trade the TSI name, for cred. You are trading on the reps THOSE individuals build as solid top of the game players. At this point as far as I know only 2 of those people still play STO. If you want that kinda of respect with out those folks you should work more on building some on your own.
ROACH kicks open door at 4am....
" Your boss is tied up in the trunk. I brought women and whiskey. Lets drink until we save the world or get your girlfriend back first."
R.I.P
I think they left because the game sucks, not due to forum bullying.
Ouch, but kind of true.:o
Pretty much that...just don't brag sort of thing, eh?
Dookie happens during PewPew... but it's all about the PewPew.
just stop devoras.
there was no discussion that i am aware of.
thanks, much needed -_- apparently everything i fly sucks
thats the truth, some TSI members would be more then happy to come back if the game was worth comming back too. but guild wars 2 has showed their pvp soul what REAL pvp can be like.
Devoras posted this thread without discussing it with everyone.
as a Co-Leader of TSI I do not approve of this thread.
also, i use tricobalt mines and dispersal pattern 2 on my timeship. it works, it kills things, the only thing i think needs to change about it is the "one crit rules them all" codeing it has going on with it.
the trics fail more often then they work but when they work, it leaves a path of floaty bits around it.
i also use grav pulse (only the duration needs to be fixed), the subspace jump, the iso metric charge. these are my consoles of choice.
and no, my charged partical burst, iso metric charge and heavy grav beam do not all benifit from partical generators anymore -sad panda-
I do think some of us are arrogant, but in all seriousness... who isnt on these forums?
TSI is and always will be a fleet that lets its memebers use what they feel they need to if its in the game.
Do you even Science Bro?
Ive had those before. They iether suck or they are awesome.
Guess this is the former.
Besides I have used Tric mines as well when it suits me, just not with Dispersal Patterns of any type.
R.I.P
To be honest, I thought all my in-game names were stupid and I never used any builds that were outside of the accepted norm by the PVP community. I.E. at least 70% of the people I encountered used the abilities I used.
Anyways, yes. I left STO because of the TRIBBLE that was coming out and the general feeling of (I don't care about PVP at all) that was coming from the devs. I tried to stay, hell I even made my STO forum stuff look pretty, but the relentless money grabbing by the devs and lack of testing made it difficult for me to find a reason to stay despite my love for star trek and space.
If anyone is interested in PVP, come join me on Guild Wars 2 or Planetside 2. You won't find any P2W there or a lack of PVP support.
Aytanhi of TSI, TSI fleet founder and leader OrganizedPVP channel Admin
Feel free to ask me about PVP or starship strategies. "No, I am not Borg!"
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This.
Only 7 good players? heh, I still play STO in my spare time, and I feel as though I am equal to any of the 7 players that you listed in terms of skill.
You're not alone, Hilbert, I have no intention of spamming Tric mines...
@f4tamy | Sad Pandas
its no so much the "skill" of the people he listed as that it is those are the people when one thinks of "TSI PREMADE RUN AWAY!" if you saw any combo of those 5 you generally were gonna have a bad time.
i dont think its anything personal keisyea.
Do you even Science Bro?
Heres a STO history lesson - TSI has always and will always use cheese and exploits to win. I can't believe years later people still think otherwise. From Tactical Captain exploits to FAW to Torp Spread to whatever it is now, theyll use it. Dont believe otherwise.
TSI and Qew made a tournament ruleset with some restrictions, one of them being the one hit kill torp spread. We'd meet them in arena queues, beat them 15-0 under the tournament rules, only to have them come back literally 5 minutes later in the next game with the same 5 guys but this time with torp spread on their science ships.
They had to though. Someone said they have 7 good players. Thats a joke. They have 2. Rock and Era. Era keeps the team alive, and Rock blows things up. Everyone else is filler. Control rock with harrassment (power drains, turn speeder debuffs, tractor beams) and then TSI gets no kills. Thats why they had to use torp spread on their Sci ships to get any kills against us, because they only had 1 escort player that could do anything and he was easy to control.
Anyways, I cant believe theres still drama around this fleet. This topic is exactly what theyve been like the whole time.
Love Kharns
QEW
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We need you guys back to teach these Klingons a thing or two about fighting Fed fleets.
To Jorfy - I will be playing MWO, just not with you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg
Tric mines or not, they are still Winning!!!
lol man sorry but you guys are just full of lol. i dont agree 100% of this post. ill edit later and put thought into what im going to say. but i would like to add, why dident you abuse trics sooner? dont tsi find the most broken stuff and abuse it to the max?
sencor scan? sub nuke? sorry but its not about all engys and escourts. i want that sci healer with vm. i want that sub nuke for your rsp. but to say sci no longer has a place is full of fail. i think you guys just use to run the most bs TRIBBLE and when that TRIBBLE took the nerf bat you guys were left in the dust gimped. your cruch has ben taken away and you cant adapt. but trics, ams and gp is bs. no skill in toys like that. but if its causing you not to have fun then take out sub nuke doffs. i think they would start to use skill when they figured out you got mad and took buffs away from them.
i am, because i know that being good at pvp, or even the best at it is not a tangible accomplishment. the only thing you can get out of it is enjoyment. i will always do what i think is fun first, and what is effective second. luckily, what i find fun through accident or force of will becomes effective in its own way, and much fun is had.
i think everyone needs to just forget this thread ever happened, and decide for yourselves just what is fair play and what isn't and let your builds reflect that. we all know what sucks the fun out of pvp, and it will never be ok with me to use any of it.