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You guys are going to love this - Removed B'tran dilthium

levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
Ok the officer report clickies gone - that ones good - up next B'tran removed.

Heck time to roll more KDF - they now have 3 dilthium missions to the Fed 1 - plus all the contraband and can run advanced orion slaver fighter pets which collect contraband as they go - good to be a KDF - sucks to be Fed.
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ST.25.20121026a.15

General:
  • Updated the Embassy System:
    • Updated the description of the Diplomacy Tier 2 Unlock.
    • The Inter-Fleet Shuttle project now properly unlocks at Tier 2 Embassy.
    • All Embassy Tier Unlocks have had their descriptions updated.
  • Romulan Reputation Ability Points now have an icon.
  • Corrected a typo in Romulan Plasma Torpedo project.
  • Removed references to "Adapted Omega" from the Omega system Tier 5 Tier-Up Unlock description.
    • There is no Adapted Omega, only MACO and Honor Guard.
  • Resolved an issue that caused all Foundry missions to display as unqualified for the Investigate Officer Reports daily mission.
  • Added menu options to access your ship and shuttle interiors individually.
  • The Dilithium reward has been removed from the Chart the B'Tran Cluster, Vice Admiral - Daily, mission.
  • All Embassy and Reputation item rewards should now be Bind on Pickup, with a few, very rare exceptions.
  • The Epohh research Duty Officer mission now correctly rewards 3 Epohh research on critical success.
  • Existing Reman datalogs have been converted into Romulan Marks.
    • The conversion rate is 5 marks to 1 datalog.
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    piwright42piwright42 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    You expect us to be surprised and such?
    If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
    They taste the same.
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    kandorouskandorous Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    This makes no sense whatsoever.
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    jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited November 2012
    I sopose they don't like is scanning waveforms

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    johnny111971johnny111971 Member Posts: 1,300 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    You know... I have tried to be a supporter of the Dilithium changes... after they brought the stf's back to 480 normal/960 elite (please tell me this is still the case)... removed the dil from the clicky quickies Officer reports... I still tried to be supportive...

    But now from an explore? really? Sorry... but WTH

    So MK XII Borg weaponry gear gone, all fleet and reputation system weapons cost dilithium... purple drops moved to Fleet Actions (may the best DPS win (sorry Sci and Eng... roll a tac)).

    This is ridiculous.

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    levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Actually the best thing now would be to just remove dilthium rewards all together - they just have a infinte amout on the sell side of the exchange and if you want dilthum you buy it with Zen.

    It would make this so much more simple - death by 1000 cuts is worse I suppose.
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    bareelbareel Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I for one support this change. Afterall why should I be FORCED to fly to B'tran to explore strange newly bugged worlds for maximum rewards?

    Now I can just go chill and explore in any star cluster!

    Aren't you thankful?

    /sarcasm off
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    sonulinu2sonulinu2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Why? Just...why?

    I'm getting so tired arguing with Cryptic. No explanation, no chance to discuss, and even if we do it's likely we're not listened to. Dil sources are less, dil rewards are less, dil grind missions are more numerous, dil costs are higher.

    I guess they feel this is all justified since they removed dil costs from rep. At least I thank you for that.

    I really wonder what goes through their minds when they make these decisions. Are they doing this to spite us because we made a big stink about dil sinks and they removed it from the new rep system? "We'll give it to them here but don't worry we'll TRIBBLE them back over there."

    In business we say that impression is everything. I started with a very high and hopeful impression of Cryptic but it seems like every other day this gets eroded away. :mad:
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    levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    bareel wrote: »
    I for one support this change. Afterall why should I be FORCED to fly to B'tran to explore strange newly bugged worlds for maximum rewards?

    Now I can just go chill and explore in any star cluster!

    Aren't you thankful?

    /sarcasm off

    You mean you have not heard what's coming next? Oh dear!:eek:
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    canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    Ok the officer report clickies gone - that ones good - up next B'tran removed.

    ...Yeah, I'm feeling the rage on this one.
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    bohiapbohiap Member Posts: 535
    edited November 2012
    Is it possible they are pulling out the dil reward and are adding in omega marks? Adding more borg patrols?

    For romulan marks you can fly all over the new romulan sector block without even beaming down to New Romulus. Maybe they're thinking about doing something similiar for the Borg in B'Tran?
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    levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    bohiap wrote: »
    Is it possible they are pulling out the dil reward and are adding in omega marks? Adding more borg patrols?

    For romulan marks you can fly all over the new romulan sector block without even beaming down to New Romulus. Maybe they're thinking about doing something similiar for the Borg in B'Tran?

    Well according to reported sources they are going live with season 7 in less than 4 days - that would be something you would see already if it was planned.
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    canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Gotta agree - if they were going to add NEW rewards they would have said they were doing so already.

    Honestly this smacks of poor planning. If it is, as I suspect, because they never intended for us to complete Explore Strange New Worlds and Chart the B'Tran Cluster (Vice Admiral) Daily with a single run through they should have found some way to make us run Explore the B'Tran Cluster separate from Chart the B'Tran Cluster or just removed Explore the B'Tran Cluster because it's completing the Explore mission that nets you the completion of the Explore Strange New Worlds wrapper.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I don't care to play the STF's...
    (I just don't enjoy them, I feel that at times, that I'm more of a detriment than a help to the team)

    And I really suc at PvP...
    (an unpleasant experience..., doesn't come close to describing just how I felt, the few times that I tried it)

    B'Tran VA + Strange New Worlds was a nice alternative Dilithium source for folks like me...

    I feel like I'm being squeezed outta the game cause I don't run-with-the-pack. :(


    New Romulas is interesting, I just hope it doesn't become boring too quickly...

    They add more things to the game..., but I seem very often, to find less things I like to do.
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    levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    canis36 wrote: »
    Gotta agree - if they were going to add NEW rewards they would have said they were doing so already.

    Honestly this smacks of poor planning. If it is, as I suspect, because they never intended for us to complete Explore Strange New Worlds and Chart the B'Tran Cluster (Vice Admiral) Daily with a single run through they should have found some way to make us run Explore the B'Tran Cluster separate from Chart the B'Tran Cluster or just removed Explore the B'Tran Cluster because it's completing the Explore mission that nets you the completion of the Explore Strange New Worlds wrapper.

    But what about the 3 or 4 KDF missions that overlap? - heck you could even probably find a way to overlap 5 of the KDF dailies + the Pi Canis sorties

    Oh Boy I see an Epic Fed side tantrum coming if they don't nerf the KDF side as well.
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    velktravelktra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Removing "Explore the B'tran Cluster" would have made more sense. Without the dilithium reward, I have no reason to go to B'tran at all anymore.

    I wish that instead of removing rewards they'd find a different way to stop players from doubling up by doing "Explore" and "Chart" at the same time...
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    canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'm waiting for the other to shoe to drop when they go ahead with the planned removal of the dilithium rewards from the Empire Defense missions and Pi Canis Sortie optionals. You know it's coming whether the Fed-only players call for it or not.
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    bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    But what about the 3 or 4 KDF missions that overlap? - heck you could even probably find a way to overlap 5 of the KDF dailies + the Pi Canis sorties

    Oh Boy I see an Epic Fed side tantrum coming if they don't nerf the KDF side as well.

    Why nerf the KDF side? If this is a move to get more people to jump over to the KDF once a day then so be it. I'f they're not going to give us any new content then they shouldnt really nerf anything.
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    levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    canis36 wrote: »
    I'm waiting for the other to shoe to drop when they go ahead with the planned removal of the dilithium rewards from the Empire Defense missions and Pi Canis Sortie optionals. You know it's coming whether the Fed-only players call for it or not.

    I am serious if they don't remove some of the KDF mission - which are now 3 to 1 - the Fed side fury is going to be so bad - the best STO battles will be right here on the forums - that is until many of the casual Fed players walk out the door feeling bitter toward the KDF and Cryptic.

    Going to need front row seats for this one.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I guess They are unhappy with the amount of Dilithium that is in the game...

    And They have a severe plan to curtail it's acquisition.

    I just hope They don't curtail our expectation that the game is worth playing, at the same time.
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    bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    I am serious if they don't remove some of the KDF mission - which are now 3 to 1 - the Fed side fury is going to be so bad - the best STO battles will be right here on the forums - that is until many of the casual Fed players walk out the door feeling bitter toward the KDF and Cryptic.

    Going to need front row seats for this one.

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    born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    I am serious if they don't remove some of the KDF mission - which are now 3 to 1 - the Fed side fury is going to be so bad - the best STO battles will be right here on the forums - that is until many of the casual Fed players walk out the door feeling bitter toward the KDF and Cryptic.

    Going to need front row seats for this one.

    Your damn straight they better nerf the KDF hard - or I'm going to walk - I'm not going to roll up a KDF toon just to get all the extra dailies they have now - only if there were real content there - I won't waste time on that promise. This will get ugly!
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    artfulmerkageartfulmerkage Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I am glad I have quit this game, this would have pushed me over the edge. How asinine and entirely devoid of intelligence do you have to be to constantly and abrasively irritate the living hell out of your player-base. Seriously, I want to know what kind of puerile brains gather to make these ill-thought decisions. Are you expecting to check the forums and see posts of delight?

    What makes it worse is that these changes are predictable, what does that mean for you devs? That you have built a reputation for delivering the exact opposite of what is your mandate. I don't know how those at Cryptic sleep at night, one trip to the forums and you can quite quickly formulate a correlative idea that you are disappointing your customers time and time again. This is just the latest dagger in the back. Season 7 had promise, I was willing to forgive the relentless grind that Season 6 ensued but it is now past the point of being a business model trying to sustain itself, it is now a game entirely conducive to making you guys money wherever you can. The audacity to make these changes (even if this is reversed) after months of lock-box mania is galling.

    Your collective incompetence is a greater achievement than your butchery of the Star Trek IP. Keep up the good work, at least I'll be ignorant to your erroneous decisions. I feel sorry for the good people I've met in STO that will have to endure your inexorable idiocy.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    I am serious if they don't remove some of the KDF mission - which are now 3 to 1 - the Fed side fury is going to be so bad - the best STO battles will be right here on the forums - that is until many of the casual Fed players walk out the door feeling bitter toward the KDF and Cryptic.

    Going to need front row seats for this one.

    Your sense of what's fun to observe is quite twisted...

    Watching a game I like to play, possibly go down in flames due to questionable decisions, is not what most folks would consider enjoyable.

    I too, occasionally find amusing, reading some of the over-the-top discussions/posts around here...

    But reading banter about which captain is better or which faction is more powerful, is a far cry from post upon post of folks rage-quitting enmasse...
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    canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Honestly don't give a flying **** what the Feddies cry about. I'm just dreading how much of the game is going to be "Lol, why play - you don't get any kind of rewards for doing so" once Cryptic gets finished pulling all the dilithium rewards from single player content.

    I've played roughly half the Fleet Actions and unless you've got a full team of 20 players most of them suck, never mind how they drag on forever. Trying to PuG those is going to be a nightmare and trying to get together a full group is going to be a massive undertaking...and by all indications those will be the only way to get Dilithium by the end of the year.
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    lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    daveyny wrote: »
    I guess They are unhappy with the amount of Dilithium that is in the game...

    And They have a severe plan to curtail it's acquisition.

    I just hope They don't curtail our expectation that the game is worth playing, at the same time.
    Yeah, obviously players can earn too much dilithium in one day. It's not like there's an arbitrary cap on the amount that can be refined per day, say 8000. And it's not like every single means of earning dilithium has some sort of cool down timer ranging anywhere from one hour to twenty. And it's not like it would take days to save up for the stuff that's for sale in the dilithium store. Nope, far too easy for players to earn a lot of dilithium and dump it all into making their ships better and having fun and buying stuff from the Z-store and-and-and-and-



    *post cut short due to sarcasm overload*
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    artfulmerkageartfulmerkage Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    canis36 wrote: »
    Honestly don't give a flying **** what the Feddies cry about. I'm just dreading how much of the game is going to be "Lol, why play - you don't get any kind of rewards for doing so" once Cryptic gets finished pulling all the dilithium rewards from single player content.

    I've played roughly half the Fleet Actions and unless you've got a full team of 20 players most of them suck, never mind how they drag on forever. Trying to PuG those is going to be a nightmare and trying to get together a full group is going to be a massive undertaking...and by all indications those will be the only way to get Dilithium by the end of the year.

    We're all users of the game, it isn't Federation vs. Klingon. What affects one faction will at some point be mirrored for the other. Besides, the KDF can hardly talk about not moaning can they? It's practically their raison d'etre.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    canis36 wrote: »
    Honestly don't give a flying **** what the Feddies cry about. I'm just dreading how much of the game is going to be "Lol, why play - you don't get any kind of rewards for doing so" once Cryptic gets finished pulling all the dilithium rewards from single player content.

    I've played roughly half the Fleet Actions and unless you've got a full team of 20 players most of them suck, never mind how they drag on forever. Trying to PuG those is going to be a nightmare and trying to get together a full group is going to be a massive undertaking...and by all indications those will be the only way to get Dilithium by the end of the year.

    Now that there's no real way to know which que is worth bothering with...

    It may become even more of an impossible nightmare..
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    levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Your damn straight they better nerf the KDF hard - or I'm going to walk - I'm not going to roll up a KDF toon just to get all the extra dailies they have now - only if there were real content there - I won't waste time on that promise. This will get ugly!

    Well I don't know about nerfing them "hard" - but I do predict an epic fit and possible mass rage quits by some Feds casually sitting on the fence as to whether to stay - if they don't cut out some of the KDF dailies as well.

    The KDF don't have a lot of content - but most Fed players won't see it that way and will just be outraged that they get nerfed and not the KDF - so yeah it could get messy.
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    bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Your damn straight they better nerf the KDF hard - or I'm going to walk - I'm not going to roll up a KDF toon just to get all the extra dailies they have now - only if there were real content there - I won't waste time on that promise. This will get ugly!

    The federation has more ships, more mission content and generally receives more love from the Cryptic/PWE, the KDF has sweet **** all.

    [EDIT] Also I know a fair few people who refuse to take advantage of the free KDF character slot they get, those people are stupid.
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