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Vesta Stats

aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2012 in PvP Gameplay
Base Stats (for all Multi-Mission Science Vessels):

Rank Required: Vice Admiral
Hull Strength: 27,800
Shield Modifier: 1.35
Crew: 750
Weapons: 3 Fore, 3 Aft
Device Slots: 3
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Commander Science, 1 Ensign Universal, 1 Lieutenant Commander Universal
Base Turn Rate: 13 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.16
Sensor Analysis
Subsystem Targeting
Can Equip Cannons
Aux Phaser Dual Heavy Cannons Mk XII [Acc] [Dmg]x2
1 Hangar Bay ? with 1 wing of Danube Runabouts

Specific Class Stats (in addition to the base stats listed above)

+15 Power to Auxiliary Systems
Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 5 Science
Console ? Universal ? Sympathetic Fermion Transceiver

Specific Class Stats (in addition to the base stats listed above)

+10 Power to Auxiliary Systems, +5 Power to Weapon Systems
Console Modifications: 4 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 4 Science
Console ? Universal ? Quantum Field Focus Controller


Specific Class Stats (in addition to the base stats listed above)

+10 Power to Auxiliary Systems, +5 Power to Shield Systems
Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 4 Science
Console ? Universal ? Multidimensional Wave-Function Analysis Module
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  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Sorry for the screwy copy-n-paste, using a phone at a bar in Spain. Turnrate, anyone?
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  • ocp001ocp001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Specific Class Stats (in addition to the base stats listed above)

    +10 Power to Auxiliary Systems, +5 Power to Weapon Systems
    Console Modifications: 4 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 4 Science
    Console ? Universal ? Quantum Field Focus Controller


    Forgot this part.
  • ocp001ocp001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    The set bonus is absurd. Basically a science ship with a phaser lance, DHC, 4 tac consoles, plus sensor analysis and subsystem targeting, oh and a perfect shield.

    Why fly anything else? It even makes the Odessey obsolete.
  • reichwald12reichwald12 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Sounds delicious. Can't wait. Any word on whether its gonna be Ody/Bort style with the triple-threat pack, or just a single premium ship?
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Meh.. I'm not as interested in it as the Odyssey/Bortasqu.. But still yay ANOTHER 5,000 Zen needed for 3 ships. And Yay more craptastic P2W Consoles that when combined form Voltron.. :rolleyes:
    You think that your beta test was bad?
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    reichwald12 wrote: »
    Sounds delicious. Can't wait. Any word on whether its gonna be Ody/Bort style with the triple-threat pack, or just a single premium ship?

    The Vesta line of Multi-Mission Science Vessels is truly beautiful and extremely fun to fly ? we can?t wait for you to be able to command them. All three Multi-Mission Science Vessels will be available in the C-Store for individual sale (2500 ZEN) or as a 3-pack bundle (5000 ZEN) when Season 7 launches. If you?d like to start saving up now, consider taking advantage of the Bonus Zen Promotion that?s currently running.

    Reading really is fundamental.
    You think that your beta test was bad?
    Think about this:
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    id just like to say i told you so to everyone that doubted that this would be the most overpowered ship ever. called the station setup too. i underestimated how overpowered it would be actually. those console configurations, the tractor pets, the incredible ease of use it will have with DHCs, this is truly a ship of nightmares.
    gateway links-->Norvo Tigan, Telis Latto Ruwon, Sochie Heim, Solana Soleus
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    id just like to say i told you so to everyone that doubted that this would be the most overpowered ship ever. called the station setup too. i underestimated how overpowered it would be actually. those console configurations, the tractor pets, the incredible ease of use it will have with DHCs, this is truly a ship of nightmares.

    Yeah, it's a Science ship that can use DHC's and Hanger pets..

    Oh well, the Feds get all the toys. Nothing new.
    You think that your beta test was bad?
    Think about this:
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  • sedlo74656sedlo74656 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Can't wait to pop a few of those! Hmm... I wonder what kind of 'splosion they make... :D
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    i underestimated how overpowered it would be actually.

    It's sad to say, but so did I. Just from some of the stats that were discovered prior to the blog it was obvious the ship was OP. After the blog though... Wow.

    13 turnrate
    1.35 shield mod
    Can equip dual heavy cannons
    4 tac consoles on the tactical version
    Sensor Analysis (so effectively after 1 min it'll have more firepower then an escort)
    Console powers
    And Danubes!?

    Cryptic is obviously seriously desperate for cash.

    One ship to rule them all indeed.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    id just like to say i told you so to everyone that doubted that this would be the most overpowered ship ever. called the station setup too. i underestimated how overpowered it would be actually. those console configurations, the tractor pets, the incredible ease of use it will have with DHCs, this is truly a ship of nightmares.

    I said it in the other thread, but I'll say it here too... not only was I wrong (well, technically they're wrong - but it's their game, so I'm wrong) - but I was so wrong with this monstrosity that in 2013 editions of most dictionaries, you're going to find my face next to the definition of wrong.

    I mean, seriously... WTF were they thinking?

    Well, I know they were thinking - giggity giggity, 5k zen - we're going to make money!

    But this is absurd...
  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited October 2012
    Honestly what did you expected from a Mary Sue ship from a bad fanfic series of novels?
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Good to know Geko didn't lost his touch at creating imba ships...
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • reichwald12reichwald12 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    webdeath wrote: »
    The Vesta line of Multi-Mission Science Vessels is truly beautiful and extremely fun to fly ? we can?t wait for you to be able to command them. All three Multi-Mission Science Vessels will be available in the C-Store for individual sale (2500 ZEN) or as a 3-pack bundle (5000 ZEN) when Season 7 launches. If you?d like to start saving up now, consider taking advantage of the Bonus Zen Promotion that?s currently running.

    Reading really is fundamental.

    Thanks for the snarky comment. What thread was that in?
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    reichwald12 wrote: »
    Thanks for the snarky comment. What thread was that in?

    Your welcome :P

    Original dev blog at the bottom.
    You think that your beta test was bad?
    Think about this:
    American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    orondis wrote: »
    It's sad to say, but so did I. Just from some of the stats that were discovered prior to the blog it was obvious the ship was OP. After the blog though... Wow.

    13 turnrate
    1.35 shield mod
    Can equip dual heavy cannons
    4 tac consoles on the tactical version
    Sensor Analysis (so effectively after 1 min it'll have more firepower then an escort)
    Console powers
    And Danubes!?

    Cryptic is obviously seriously desperate for cash.

    One ship to rule them all indeed.

    Sadly some are crying that it's not OP enough. Obviously you can't please everyone all the time.

    I'm still laughing @ 3 forward weapons
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Good to know Geko didn't lost his touch at creating imba ships...

    But...but...the way that blog post starts off...

    ...to where it goes?

    That's more of a lost touch with reality.

    How do you go from starting off saying that they wanted to avoid the potential OP of what the ship was to some folks to a ship even more OP than was imagined - whether hoped for or dreaded?
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    virusdancer wrote: »
    I said it in the other thread, but I'll say it here too... not only was I wrong (well, technically they're wrong - but it's their game, so I'm wrong) - but I was so wrong with this monstrosity that in 2013 editions of most dictionaries, you're going to find my face next to the definition of wrong.

    I mean, seriously... WTF were they thinking?

    Well, I know they were thinking - giggity giggity, 5k zen - we're going to make money!

    But this is absurd...

    i really don't see how they could have made a more overpowered ship, i don't think its possible. well, unless they did silly things like give it a 2.0 shield mod, 20 turn, 60K hitpoints. i mean without grossly exceeding stat parameters it isn't possible to make anything better then this. it has literally everything. the best pet, the best weapon, the moat crippling skills available, the most synergistic station and console setup possible, and BS console powers.

    heres what a vesta that would neatly fit with in the game in a balanced way would look like

    Rank Required: Vice Admiral
    Hull Strength: 27,800
    Shield Modifier: 1.30
    Crew: 750
    Weapons: 3 Fore, 3 Aft
    Device Slots: 3
    Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Commander Science, 1 Ensign Universal, 1 Lieutenant Commander Universal
    Base Turn Rate: 10 degrees per second
    Impulse Modifier: 0.16
    Sensor Analysis
    Subsystem Targeting
    Can Equip Cannons
    0 Hangar Bays
    +15 Power to Auxiliary Systems
    Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 4 Science
    gateway links-->Norvo Tigan, Telis Latto Ruwon, Sochie Heim, Solana Soleus
  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Sadly some are crying that it's not OP enough. Obviously you can't please everyone all the time.

    I'm still laughing @ 3 forward weapons

    Your darn right I am crying - they gave me the 13 turn I ask for - the almost 1.4 mod - it's only 3 weapons up front - but I think you missed the innate Aux DHC MII that runs off Aux power.

    i just did not get the 37k hull I wanted - still there is some time left to up the stats. And I will keep after them.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I still say that a ship that's supposed to be that big - shouldn't even have a TR of 10.

    I'd make a base ship with lower TR, lower shield, and no hangar. It would have a "Multi-Mission" console slot - one slot. In that slot you could drop in a TR module, a shield module, or the hangar module.

    If you took the TR, you've got your "Escort" Vesta.
    If you took the shield module, you've got your "Healer/Tank" Vesta.
    If you took the hangar module, you've got your "Carrier" Vesta.
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    *Sigh*

    More p2w TRIBBLE... and this one really takes it.

    Absurd.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    they gave me the 13 turn I ask for

    On a ship 672m long, 195m wide, 88m tall, and weighing over 321,000 metric tons...

    ...how does a TR of 13 make sense?
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    Your darn right I am crying - they gave me the 13 turn I ask for - the almost 1.4 mod - it's only 3 weapons up front - but I think you missed the innate Aux DHC MII that runs off Aux power.

    i just did not get the 37k hull I wanted - still there is some time left to up the stats. And I will keep after them.

    Nope, didn't miss because I don't care. I won't buy one, I'll never see one (won't do PvP anymore), and don't expect to see something KDF to blow my 5k zen on in the c-store soon. They won't even address the T5 KDF fleet ship upgrade problem.

    I DO LOVE seeing Feddies whine tho.
    KBF Lord MalaK
    Awoken Dead
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    Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    how about some insane build crafting? this is proboly what i would run out of the gate. not that i plan on legitimizing this thing with a purchase

    3DHC/3 beam arrays

    sci captain, 3 tech doffs, 2 vm doffs

    TT1, CRF1
    EPtS1, AtB1, EWP1
    EPtA1, AtB1
    TSS1, HE2, ST3, VM3
    PH1
    gateway links-->Norvo Tigan, Telis Latto Ruwon, Sochie Heim, Solana Soleus
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    lostusthorn wrote: »
    Honestly what did you expected from a Mary Sue ship from a bad fanfic series of novels?

    i HATE maRY sUE....
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    how about some insane build crafting? this is proboly what i would run out of the gate. not that i plan on legitimizing this thing with a purchase

    3DHC/3 beam arrays

    sci captain, 3 tech doffs, 2 vm doffs

    TT1, CRF1
    EPtS1, AtB1, EWP1
    EPtA1, AtB1
    TSS1, HE2, ST3, VM3
    PH1

    You are the defacto expert on RCS mods - what happens if i drop a MII purple RCS mod in there to the turn rate?
  • wolfpack12cwolfpack12c Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I find it funny they ship has 3 for and aft slots but it really has 4 fore weapons because of the aux phaser duel heavy. This is such an oped ship and with tractor pet spam it will be way oped. I'm a sci capt and I honestly don't feel this ship. It's to much like an escort. I've always piped in a sci ship and plan to always do so but this ship is insane. I expect them to need it after 3000 sales that way they will have all the money they can get off it and then laugh.
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    how about some insane build crafting? this is proboly what i would run out of the gate. not that i plan on legitimizing this thing with a purchase

    3DHC/3 beam arrays

    sci captain, 3 tech doffs, 2 vm doffs

    TT1, CRF1
    EPtS1, AtB1, EWP1
    EPtA1, AtB1
    TSS1, HE2, ST3, VM3
    PH1

    Thats nice build a nebula...oh wait...lol compare those two ships :p


    Vesta vs. Nebula

    same layout - check
    better turn rate - check
    dual cannons - check
    better console layout - check
    hangars - check

    How can cryptic dare to sell Nebula for 2000 zen ?
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited October 2012
    Well, at least you can't activate all of the consoles at the same time.

    And the perfect shield takes all weapons offline.

    It should shut off engine too. Better yet, shut off aux as well. You'd think the "perfect shield" would require diverting all power to the shields to pull that off.
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